Official (DTA) SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

[Blueoval56]

^ did you get it from SAC?

I bought it (very lightly) used, few hundred rounds on it. I’m up in Canada and ordering a new kit from SAC is a pain in a** and there’s one distributor who sells them up here and they price them quite high. And they only offer 18-22” barrels, wanted a longer one.
Took some patience to wait for the right used kit but it paid off because I got it at a great price.

 

[Roadkill4us]

Hello all - looking for some input on a 338 norma barrel. With length & weight not being of great concern (within reason) This will just be for steel & turning rocks to gravel at extended ranges as my ability grows. Would it be worth having a faster twist (9....) to accommodate future bullet designs? How about length - worth doing say 30" to get the extra velocity without having to push components as hard and still take advantage of the round? Probably overthinking or would the factory DT 26" 10 twist do just fine for the majority of what's available? Been collecting components and figure I'll start with the norma brass H-1000 and 285 eld-m. Thanks for the input

 

[secondofangle2]

Don't reinvent the wheel. The 338 Norma is just like the PRC cartridges, designed to give a shorter fatter case to allow long heavy bullets to be shot when mag length is limited. There is NO MAG LENGTH LIMITATION with DT SRS. So there is NO POINT in 338 Norma in an SRS

Get a 338 LM barrel, 26-34 inches, about 1:9 twist, shoot Lapua brass, 285 ELD-M and Retumbo (not H1000).

I would not sacrifice performance and track record of 338 LM for a 338 NM, and use Norma brass when Lapua brass is available.

There are a ton of successful 338 barrels on this thread dating back over a decade. 338 Norma fills a void that does not exist in an SRS; it is a solution to a non-problem. So....think hard about it.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.338_Norma_Magnum

 

[Roadkill4us]

All great points and food for thought !! My 1st step up to 338 anything and to sum it up I don't know what I don't know. I like the short fat cases for whatever reason - enjoy the wsm family. So I guess I'm kinda following that path. Thank you for the response !! I appreciate the perspective.

 

[jdonovan]

Would it be worth having a faster twist (9....) to accommodate future bullet designs?

There are already bullets for 338 that require 1:8.5 MINIMUM, so 1:9 is too slow of a twist for whats already available.

How about length - worth doing say 30" to get the extra velocity without having to push components as hard and still take advantage of the round?

Goto JBM balistics, and calculate with your chosen bullet/speed, what does 50-100 FPS difference do at your intended ranges. Faster is always better at long range. Less drop/drift, the question only you can answer is the extra X inches of barrel worth it at the target.

 

[M77]

Hello all - looking for some input on a 338 norma barrel. With length & weight not being of great concern (within reason) This will just be for steel & turning rocks to gravel at extended ranges as my ability grows. Would it be worth having a faster twist (9....) to accommodate future bullet designs? How about length - worth doing say 30" to get the extra velocity without having to push components as hard and still take advantage of the round? Probably overthinking or would the factory DT 26" 10 twist do just fine for the majority of what's available? Been collecting components and figure I'll start with the norma brass H-1000 and 285 eld-m. Thanks for the input

I've got the factory 26" 1:10 conversion , no issues running 285's and 300gr OTM's / EH

 

[secondofangle2]

^ I agree. People over-twist bullets.

Unless you’re running solids 1:9 or even 1:10 should be fine

Plus 300 gr is kinda upper limit for non-improved 338LM (designed around 250 grain bullets); it doesn't have the nutsack to push the heavies.

 

[Roadkill4us]

Thanks all for the input - I'll check out JBM / retumbo and continue to dig through the valuable info found here.

 

[Blueoval56]

Got my 223 kit today. Waiting for some 80gr ELD’s then I’ll take it out for some testing.

223, 308, 338L so far and a 28” 30-06 PVA prefit on the way.

 

[secondofangle2]

Don’t use 80 ELD

Bearing surface longer, speed way slower than 75 ELD at same pressure

BC of 80 not high enough to overcome the loss of speed

YMMV

 

[rust4brains]

Anyone have a good solution for mag pouches or a mag carrier for HTI .50 mags beyond tossing them in a pack?

I don't know if he still makes them but I bought magazine pouches and barrel bags for my SRSA1 from @softcock. He made pouches and bags for other applications. I would reach out to him.

 

[Blueoval56]

Don’t use 80 ELD

Bearing surface longer, speed way slower than 75 ELD at same pressure

BC of 80 not high enough to overcome the loss of speed

YMMV

Good to know. Do you think it’s worth trying anything heavier like 85/88gr with the 26” barrel? Or just stick to 75’s and keep it simple

 

[secondofangle2]

I suppose it depends on what you’re trying to do with it

I never tried anything heavier than the 80 so I can’t give you any advice there, but the 75s do fine out to 1000 yards on steel. I doubt you will get the speed out of the heavier bullets to make them have superior drop, but they might have better wind-bucking ability and thump a little harder at distance - on target and in terms of splash for misses

There’s just so many known good loads for the 73, 75, 77 grain offerings that I personally would just stay right there

 

[Blueoval56]

I suppose it depends on what you’re trying to do with it

I never tried anything heavier than the 80 so I can’t give you any advice there, but the 75s do fine out to 1000 yards on steel. I doubt you will get the speed out of the heavier bullets to make them have superior drop, but they might have better wind-bucking ability and thump a little harder at distance - on target and in terms of splash for misses

There’s just so many known good loads for the 73, 75, 77 grain offerings that I personally would just stay right there

Appreciate the thoughts. This kit will just be my cheap to load, low recoil fun barrel for general shooting on steel out to probably 800 max. Maybe the odd the coyote and I don’t shoot to save fur. Anything further than 800(or more energy required) I’ll use the the 30-06 or 338.

 

[secondofangle2]

 

[secondofangle2]

Wazzup with this?

Mismanagement finally leading to comeuppance?

 

[Andrews50]

Brass Facts put up this video and basically refusing to interview DT after they have offered to next week at least 3 times publicly at their facility. I keep questioning brass facts as to why he won't. He keeps making excuses. It's ridiculous to not set the record straight in my humble opinion after putting up a video like this. Makes me think it's another slander campaign since he only wants to possibly do the interview after reviewing a wolvrn now.

 

[secondofangle2]

You mean it’s an extortion video? Gimme a Wolverine or else?

His motives and his behavior aside, is there any truth to any of what he has in that video??

And Nick Young, himself so fond of self-congratulatory and self-promotional videos, can also set the record straight with his own video, right?

 

[Andrews50]

You mean it’s an extortion video? Gimme a Wolverine or else?

His motives and his behavior aside, is there any truth to any of what he has in that video??

And Nick Young, himself so fond of self-congratulatory and self promotional videos, can also set the record straight with his own video, right?

Not extortion, just delay. He sounds scared to meet Nick in his comments. Nick has been trying to get him to meet and even responded back to 3 of the claims. I think the big issue now is how many people were fired or layed off. BF is saying 75%, the number he got from a disgruntled ex employee. Nick is saying more like 15% so I don't know. My problem with this is, BT put the video out and even said he should've talked to DT before hand. Now he's scared to meet. Loses all credibility to me. He's just making excuses not to meet.

 

[Andrews50]

Not extortion, just delay. He sounds scared to meet Nick in his comments. Nick has been trying to get him to meet and even responded back to 3 of the claims. I think the big issue now is how many people were fired or layed off. BF is saying 75%, the number he got from a disgruntled ex employee. Nick is saying more like 15% so I don't know. My problem with this is, BT put the video out and even said he should've talked to DT before hand. Now he's scared to meet. Loses all credibility to me. He's just making excuses not to meet.

But yes, Nick should do his own video. So many haters though. I hope Desert Tech pulls through.

 

[Dogtown]

Dramalama

 

[232593]

Brass Facts put up this video and basically refusing to interview DT after they have offered to next week at least 3 times publicly at their facility. I keep questioning brass facts as to why he won't. He keeps making excuses. It's ridiculous to not set the record straight in my humble opinion after putting up a video like this. Makes me think it's another slander campaign since he only wants to possibly do the interview after reviewing a wolvrn now.

You know Brass Facts?

 

[232593]

Wazzup with this?

Mismanagement finally leading to comeuppance?

Dammit, just when I get a new VV ATIP load created.

 

[232593]

@wooferocau

How often do you clean your factory.375 CT barrel?

 

[232593]

Dramalama

You watch Johnny B as well?

 

[Blueoval56]

I wouldn’t be surprised at internal issues but I truly hope, if any of this video is true, that it’s the come to Jesus moment they need to pick up their socks. I’m pretty invested in the SRS platform and hope they succeed in pulling through what ever this is.

 

[Andrews50]

You know Brass Facts?

I do not. Just using my common sense. If you post a video about my company and I offer multiple times to bring you to my company for a interview and you keep making excuses not to, yea I'm not with that.

I wouldn’t be surprised at internal issues but I truly hope, if any of this video is true, that it’s the come to Jesus moment they need to pick up their socks. I’m pretty invested in the SRS platform and hope they succeed in pulling through what ever this is.

I hear ya. I'm majorly invested in tbe HTI platform. I have a ton of spare parts just because I wanted them. I hope they pull thru though. We have enough going against the firearm industry.

 

[wooferocau]

@wooferocau

How often do you clean your factory.375 CT barrel?

50rds max

 

[wooferocau]

Just coming up to 1700 rounds on the Factory CheyTac barrel...still going strong!!

Arken EP5 7- 35 .. Standing in for some Alpha Glass

www.snipershide.com

 

[232593]

Just coming up to 1700 rounds on the Factory CheyTac barrel...still going strong!!

Arken EP5 7- 35 .. Standing in for some Alpha Glass

www.snipershide.com

Wait a sec. Your running an Arken on your HTI? What happened to your NF and Schmidt Bender?

 

[wooferocau]

Wait a sec. Your running an Arken on your HTI? What happened to your NF and Schmidt Bender?

S&B,s shit themselves !!!

 

[secondofangle2]

Please elaborate

 

[wooferocau]

Please elaborate

2 6-36,s initially....then my 2 10-60,s lasted 12 rounds between them..

Woking with S&B ...
as much as I can say..

 

[wooferocau]

Please elaborate

Check your PM..

 

[232593]

S&B,s shit themselves !!!

Just curious, did you ever try a Vortex Razor on your HTI’s when you used the .50 BMG barrel?

Also, do the S&Bs shit themselves on other the rifles of other manufacturers in the same caliber?

 

[wooferocau]

Also, do the S&Bs shit themselves on other the rifles of other manufacturers in the same caliber?

Yes

 

[wooferocau]

Just curious, did you ever try a Vortex Razor on your HTI’s when you used the .50 BMG barrel?

No, the Vortex is one of the few scopes i have never tried , but hear lots of goods things about!

 

[wooferocau]

1700 rounds...factory 375CT....still going...

 

[wooferocau]

Just set up a target plate at 2800yds...

 

[Simia Dei]

Just set up a target plate at 2800yds...

Where is this mate? looks like familiar territory

 

[wooferocau]

Where is this mate? looks like familiar territory

One of my back paddocks.... Couple of gully's over from my main range..

To be exact....Connors Hill , Windy Ridge , Swifts Creek , Victoria , Aus..

 

[Simia Dei]

One of my back paddocks.... Couple of gully's over from my main range..

To be exact....Connors Hill , Windy Ridge , Swifts Creek , Victoria , Aus..

Beautiful part of the world mate. I’ve been down that way a heap of times. I grew up at the base of Mt Buller

 

[PB&J.]

Got my 223 kit today. Waiting for some 80gr ELD’s then I’ll take it out for some testing.

223, 308, 338L so far and a 28” 30-06 PVA prefit on the way.

Wot @secondofangle2 sed.

75 eldm's are where it's at for the .223, they shoot fast and are little laser beams. The extra BC of the heavier projectiles isn't worth the velocity loss.

I'm shooting them at 3075fps out of my SAC .223AI and they hammer.

 

[wooferocau]

Beautiful part of the world mate. I’ve been down that way a heap of times. I grew up at the base of Mt Buller

Small world .... If ever your this way again ... yell out !!

 

[Simia Dei]

Small world .... If ever your this way again ... yell out !!

Very rarely now I’m up in QLD. Have got mates who can take you sambar hunting anywhere you like around there, and fly fishing if you’re into that as well

 

[wooferocau]

Very rarely now I’m up in QLD. Have got mates who can take you sambar hunting anywhere you like around there, and fly fishing if you’re into that as well

Sambar...
this is a young friend of mine who i lent one of my old No4T ( .303) Sniper rifles to take on a hunt locally. Got this Sambar at approx 180yds with Sierra 174gr HPBT Match projectile......Dropped it instantly

 

[Simia Dei]

Sambar...
this is a young friend of mine who i lent one of my old No4T ( .303) Sniper rifles to take on a hunt locally. Got this Sambar at approx 180yds with Sierra 174gr HPBT Match projectile......Dropped it instantly

That’s an absolute juggernaut mate. I’ve only ever shot one close to that size, was so old he had about 3 teeth in his head and these were the antlers that came off him. Bloody heavy bastard, I doubt he would have survived another season.

 

[culater]

What backpacks are you using to carry your rig?

 

[PB&J.]

What backpacks are you using to carry your rig?

After looking at a LOT of bags, I settled on a Helikon Tex double upper rifle bag. It's not exactly a backpack, but it does have backpack straps on it and can be used as one if you need.

The rifle with 26" barrel + brake will fit lengthwise, it has the perfect internal molle layout for rifle and additional pouches, plenty of storage in the external pockets and is well made.

I have put 2x other DTA owners onto these bags and they both rate them highly.

 

[wooferocau]

1730 rounds on this Factory 375 barrel

Just zeroing the Arken properly which will now live on this HTI

2 .....3 shot groups... moved 1 click left on 2nd group