Official (DTA) SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Yup, the 16" .308WIN is dynamite - no need for a longer barrel, in my opinion. The 18" .338LM is all about compactness because you will take a significant speed hit, but it's a great choice if you're hunting or shooting subsonic loads. In fact, I can't think of a more compact .338LM out there. I suspect even with suppressor it's still shorter than most 20" .338LM convention rifles.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ColdBoreMiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shot a 16" Covert .338lm out to 1500, very impressive even with short legs. </div></div>

Jeff, who made the barrel?
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RussW1911 ®</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ColdBoreMiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shot a 16" Covert .338lm out to 1500, very impressive even with short legs. </div></div>

Jeff, who made the barrel? </div></div>


Beanland, 1-8 twist Kreiger, IIRC velocity was around 2550 with 300gr SMK's.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ColdBoreMiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RussW1911 ®</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ColdBoreMiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shot a 16" Covert .338lm out to 1500, very impressive even with short legs. </div></div>

Jeff, who made the barrel? </div></div>


Beanland, 1-8 twist Kreiger, IIRC velocity was around 2550 with 300gr SMK's. </div></div>

Nice
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I want to order a LH SRS, a Khales,DTA, .308, suppressed and a .338 Lapua, when they are made available. I would like to know if these can ordered direct from DTA, or will I have to order from a dealer. Can the scope come installed with the proper rings and zeroed?

My other question is, if I order the suppressor from the get go, will the factory test shoot and set it up (dial it in), to shoot as accurate as the barrel will shoot unsuppressed?

Thanks,
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

While we are on the 308 16" barrel, I have tried 155 scenars, 155 amax, 168 amax, and 175 smk using lapua brass and varget. I can't seem to get it under moa.
Subsonic with trailboss and 180 rn or 208 max and I can get it too about 1.5 moa which I am fine with.

I have a shark suppressor. my 260 conversion throws a 123 amax with h4350 .25 moa, no problem.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Dixie, the lighter bullets didn't shoot as well in my testing. Granted these were 150, 155 and 168gr loads that ran great in my 24" SR90 for several years. However, my 175gr load grouped beautifully - must have something to do with the 1:8 twist?
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I'm getting close to buying a DTA and wanted to ask a couple questions before I commit. Should I get the new model with the adjustable cheek piece or are you guys happy with the non adjustable model? What happened to the .243 barrel they use to offer? I was thinking about getting two calibers for now and was leaning towards a .308 and the .243 until I seen they no longer offer it.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

There wasn't much of a demand for the .243 from the factory. However if you are set on one mark at Short Action customs will spin one up for you. I would recommend looking into the 6.5 creedmoor. Great match round and factory hornady match ammo is $25 a box.
 
.308 loads for 16" DTAs

I've had a lot of trouble handloading for the 16" .308. My first barrel wouldn't even group with FGMM, so I sent it back and got a replacement (6 weeks later). The one I have now groups .75" with 168gr FGMM but I haven't been able to get 208gr A-Max and Varget to group much under 2MOA!
 
Re: .308 loads for 16" DTAs

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Strive4More</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There wasn't much of a demand for the .243 from the factory. However if you are set on one mark at Short Action customs will spin one up for you. I would recommend looking into the 6.5 creedmoor. Great match round and factory hornady match ammo is $25 a box. </div></div>

I may just go with the .260 barrel instead of the .243, I was just thinking about trying the 105 or 115 grain bullets after hearing everybody saying how great the ballistics are.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dogtown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dixie, the lighter bullets didn't shoot as well in my testing. Granted these were 150, 155 and 168gr loads that ran great in my 24" SR90 for several years. However, my 175gr load grouped beautifully - must have something to do with the 1:8 twist? </div></div>

What do you mean by beautifully? I have tried the 175 smk and it's not consistent, gotten a couple of .75 and maybe a 5/8 or so but most were right around 1 moa
Have some 178 amax and plan to try soon.
Haven't thought of trying anything heavier.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Beautifully as in, "wow, I can't believe all five rounds are touching". I had a 16" .308WIN and a 26" 6.5x47L where I expected the 6.5 to group better but was completely surprised by how well the short .308WIN shot.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

The only thing that's incompatible between Gen1 & Gen2 rifles is the barrel extension. Gen1 indexes off of a pin in the receiver while Gen2 indexes more robustly on the feed ramps. You can use the same bolts, mags, etc but the barrels need the extension that matches the chassis it's being installed in.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dixie3bass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can't fnd it searching back, can a gen 1 bolt be used in a gen 2 chassis?
Can a gen 2 conversion be used in a gen 1 chassis? </div></div>

I don't think there is any functional difference in the bolts so the removable bolt-head bolt should be useable in the earlier guns.
The gen 2 barrel extension will not work with the gen 1 chassis due to the method of indexing it. The Gen 1 guns use a roll pin in the chassis and a slot in the extension to line up the top and bottom. The gen 2 guns have wider feedramp that indexes the barrel extension so they are not compatible.

DT has said they will supply conversions for both so that the gen 1 rifles aren't obsoleted.


Yup, the 16" .308WIN is dynamite - no need for a longer barrel, in my opinion. The 18" .338LM is all about compactness because you will take a significant speed hit, but it's a great choice if you're hunting or shooting subsonic loads. In fact, I can't think of a more compact .338LM out there. I suspect even with suppressor it's still shorter than most 20" .338LM convention rifles.
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I know that my SRS with the 26" .338LM barrel and my 10.5" suppressor is shorter than a SAKO TRG42 with no brake. The .338BR with the 17" barrel and the can is shorter than the 338LM barrel with nothing on. Its a compact system and while I wouldn't shoot subs in the 26" barrel they work great in the BR barrel. No need to have more barrel than you need for the job. Twist is a bit slow for 300gr subs in the long barrel. The BR barrel is 7" twist just for them.

Frank
 
Re: .308 loads for 16" DTAs

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bradu</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Strive4More</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There wasn't much of a demand for the .243 from the factory. However if you are set on one mark at Short Action customs will spin one up for you. I would recommend looking into the 6.5 creedmoor. Great match round and factory hornady match ammo is $25 a box. </div></div>

I may just go with the .260 barrel instead of the .243, I was just thinking about trying the 105 or 115 grain bullets after hearing everybody saying how great the ballistics are. </div></div>Go with the .260, you will love it, and it'll probably outlast a .243.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Thanks for the advice guys. Nick, now that you mention it, I do believe you were referring to the 308. My bad. I have 2000 168 a-max on order so I hope I will have better luck in the 16" 308 than some of you. I can always use them in my dpms sass, but I doubt that will come out too often after the Covert arrival.

I think I am going to just go with the 26" 338. Thanks for setting me straight on this. I don't plan on shooting anything subsonic in this caliber. Seems like a waste to me, when a 510 is available.

I was able to find the 338 can in stock and will be ordering it tomorrow.

I wish there was a dedicated thread with favorite recipes for all calibers in the DTS lineup. They are scattered about in these 72 pages. It seems the 168gn A-max over ~42gn Varget is the go to load, but I am surprised to see the recent posts of it not working out so well. I will be lucky to shoot 1MOA for awhile, being new to bolt actions. The reason I went with DTA is so that I know it's me and not the gun. I guess I'll purchase a couple hundred DTA rounds and compare them to what I cook up.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ColdBoreMiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bradu</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Strive4More</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There wasn't much of a demand for the .243 from the factory. However if you are set on one mark at Short Action customs will spin one up for you. I would recommend looking into the 6.5 creedmoor. Great match round and factory hornady match ammo is $25 a box. </div></div>

I may just go with the .260 barrel instead of the .243, I was just thinking about trying the 105 or 115 grain bullets after hearing everybody saying how great the ballistics are. </div></div>Go with the .260, you will love it, and it'll probably outlast a .243.</div></div>

I already have two .260's and I love them. Just thought I might try something different since I already have everything to load for the .243. Not really sure what route I will go yet.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the advice guys.

I think I am going to just go with the 26" 338. Thanks for setting me straight on this. I don't plan on shooting anything subsonic in this caliber. Seems like a waste to me, when a 510 is available.

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I'm just finishing up a 6.5 X 47 barrel for my SRS. I need to do the chamber and thread the muzzle now. Just a bit of polish after that.

I kind of agree on the subsonics...I've got a 510 that is fantastic for subs but the .338BR is a good one too. Shorter and lighter than the 510 with ammo thats a bit easier to make up and load. I can run 200gr SST's at over 2000fps too if I need to. I could probably go faster but with the big 338 just a wrench turn away its better for the subs. With the 6.5 coming on line it should be a good well rounded package. I don't think you can go wrong with the 6.5's which ever you choose.

Frank
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Does DTA sell trigger shoes? Somehow the little side rails on the shoe itself broke and I can't find them listed on their web site anywhere. Any help would be appreciated
Sully
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 402</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does DTA sell trigger shoes? Somehow the little side rails on the shoe itself broke and I can't find them listed on their web site anywhere. Any help would be appreciated
Sully</div></div>

call Joe in Warranty...he'll help you out.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 402</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just got off the phone with Joe and he is going to send me a new one out today!!! Great guy!
Sully</div></div>

Good deal!

DTA takes care of their family!!!
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Anyone here mount an AAC 762-SDN-6 suppressor to a 51 tooth QR brake adapter on an SRS (.308 22" barrel)? Concern is the barrel only extends about 1/2" past the front rail.

Thanks!
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Does anyone know how long DTA is running behind on shipping? My dealer was told 8 weeks 9 weeks ago. At first I didn't think I was going to have the cash, and he was going to let me make payments for 6 months, but Christmas came early this year!

Also, being new to precision rifle reloading, should I work my loads up in .2gn?
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I ordered mine on 10/20/2012. Still nothing...
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Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Checking to see if anyone can help me troubleshoot an issue.

Went to work up a load for a Gen 1 DTA with a Gen 2 bolt today. It's a brand new gun, never fired.

When I pulled the trigger, click....nothing. Ran the bolt, tried again, nothing.

Took the round out and it looks like I'm getting a very light primer strike. I was using CCI BR2 primers. Tried several rounds, all the same....no ignition.

I uniform my primer pockets so I was thinking maybe the primer was seated a tad deep. It's never been an issue with any other rifle but I figured I'd try a new piece of brass without changing the primer pocket. So I took an empty brass, inserted a primer and chambered it.....click.....nothing.

This time it didn't even leave a mark on the primer, nothing.


Any ideas?


Here's the bolt face with the firing pin pushed all the way forward.

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Here's the primer.....like I said, barely touched.
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I'm gonna call DTA Monday but I'd like to get a head start on this or get some ideas to discuss with their support over the phone.....thanks.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cookie The Swede</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I ordered mine on 10/20/2012. Still nothing...
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Wow, they are that far behind on orders? Wonder what the eta is on the a-1 models?
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MicLR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone here mount an AAC 762-SDN-6 suppressor to a 51 tooth QR brake adapter on an SRS (.308 22" barrel)? Concern is the barrel only extends about 1/2" past the front rail.

Thanks!</div></div>
I received my paperwork yesterday for my can and got to shoot it today. I have the same can with a flash hider. Definitely use the delta P design thread adapter for your brake. Before you glue anything down I would thread on the adapter with the brake on thebarrel and see how your can locks up on the mount. Mine is tight. No play at all. After 28 rounds was still rock solid. I was happy. Several people have had issues with their can not locking up tight or working its way loose and get baffle strikes.
Heres how the mount looks
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Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cookie The Swede</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I ordered mine on 10/20/2012. Still nothing...
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That sucks. Mine was ordered 11/27 from one of their dealers. Keep me posted, and ill do the same.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bradu</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cookie The Swede</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I ordered mine on 10/20/2012. Still nothing...
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Wow, they are that far behind on orders? Wonder what the eta is on the a-1 models? </div></div>

From what I understand, what they are shipping now is kind of the A1 model. In the coming months, what you get now will be the base model, and you will have the option to customize it with the cheek rest and/or the padded butt plate. In an earlier thread it was stated that all chassis' manufactured in the past 6 months are milled and tapped for the cheek rest.

DTA can then say that they are selling a customized product, which is ingenious. People always tend to pay more and value a "custom" firearm vs a run of the mill. Take Wilson Combat for example. Their products have doubled in price over the past 2 years, and it takes like a year to get your "custom" 1911.

Better get em now folks because in a couple years they might be asking 15k+ for a rifle just like AI is now. I can't believe those folks are dropping that kind of coin for a fancy stock. It sure is sweet though. No disrespect AI people... Yes I am jealous that I can't afford to give 17k for a rifle, 3 barrels and a fancy case to put it in. I wish I had it like that. If I did, I would probably get a SRS, an HTI, a bunch of conversions and enough loading supplies to feed it for a year instead.

Nick, we are very fortunate to have you step in the game...
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Nick
Looks like a lot of people are wondering if there rifle is already milled for the a-1 set up. If you have the info could you just post the serial number that you started with. Anyone with a higher number will know they can order the parts and change the skins with out sending in the rifle. Thanks
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beau72</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nick
Looks like a lot of people are wondering if their rifle is already milled for the a-1 set up. If you have the info could you just post the serial number that you started with. Anyone with a higher number will know they can order the parts and change the skins with out sending in the rifle. Thanks </div></div>

I think a picture showing the milled slots would be best for people to look on their own SRS and compare. But really I just took my skins off and it's pretty obvious mine (ordered/received in August/September) does not have the slots milled in it.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Any word on when the remainder of the chassis on the Oakland tactical GB will be sent out? I've been on leave the past month and not being able to shoot has been killing me (just moved 20 min from K&M!)
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Lofty,
Have you tried re setting the barrel and resetting the headspace? I had this issue on a couple of rounds and found I wasn't closing the bolt all the way as well.
Sully
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I had thought of that.

I redid it by seating the barrel.back, locking the bolt....pushing back on the barrel again and.then.torqeing everything down.

It checked.out with a go/no go gauge.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I just got mine a couple of weeks ago, SRS 338 Lapua.
What a great rifle!
Seems like every handload I try shoots around 1/2 MOA. The 285 Hornady's and 300 Nosler Accubond both stay under 1/2 MOA.
Shot several 3"- 5 shot groups today @ 500 yds with 300 gr Accubonds in a bit of a snowstorm!
Now that I have a load I'll have to stretch things out.