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Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
I'm thinking about selling my gen 1 SRS to fund the newer A1 version. My chassis is one of the first ones (serial number under 50) so it can not be upgraded to accept the gen 2 conversions.
I guess what I am asking is the juice worth the squeeze if I upgraded, is anybody else in this situation?
I'm thinking about selling my gen 1 SRS to fund the newer A1 version. My chassis is one of the first ones (serial number under 50) so it can not be upgraded to accept the gen 2 conversions.
I guess what I am asking is the juice worth the squeeze if I upgraded, is anybody else in this situation?
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bribri</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking about selling my gen 1 SRS to fund the newer A1 version. My chassis is one of the first ones (serial number under 50) so it can not be upgraded to accept the gen 2 conversions.
I guess what I am asking is the juice worth the squeeze if I upgraded, is anybody else in this situation?</div></div>
I had one of the originals too, sold it to buy a covert with monopod, it made more sense to me to sell and buy new. I fell away and bought an AI, but soon sold it to go with the original plan, back with a gen 2 with 2 conversions. Couldn't be happier. I like the new butt pad design if the cost isn't too bad but I don't care about the adj. cheek. Maybe I will change my mind once I get behind one. I am now toying with the idea of a airbrush camo paint job. I feel like it deserves more than krylon.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bribri</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking about selling my gen 1 SRS to fund the newer A1 version. My chassis is one of the first ones (serial number under 50) so it can not be upgraded to accept the gen 2 conversions.
I guess what I am asking is the juice worth the squeeze if I upgraded, is anybody else in this situation?</div></div>
I had one of the originals too, sold it to buy a covert with monopod, it made more sense to me to sell and buy new. I fell away and bought an AI, but soon sold it to go with the original plan, back with a gen 2 with 2 conversions. Couldn't be happier. I like the new butt pad design if the cost isn't too bad but I don't care about the adj. cheek. Maybe I will change my mind once I get behind one. I am now toying with the idea of a airbrush camo paint job. I feel like it deserves more than krylon.
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dixie3bass</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bribri</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking about selling my gen 1 SRS to fund the newer A1 version. My chassis is one of the first ones (serial number under 50) so it can not be upgraded to accept the gen 2 conversions.
I guess what I am asking is the juice worth the squeeze if I upgraded, is anybody else in this situation?</div></div>
I had one of the originals too, sold it to buy a covert with monopod, it made more sense to me to sell and buy new. I fell away and bought an AI, but soon sold it to go with the original plan, back with a gen 2 with 2 conversions. Couldn't be happier. I like the new butt pad design if the cost isn't too bad but I don't care about the adj. cheek. Maybe I will change my mind once I get behind one. I am now toying with the idea of a airbrush camo paint job. I feel like it deserves more than krylon. </div></div>
I tried the new A1 at the SHOT show and I didn't like the new buttpad and didn't really feel the cheekrest was worth any extra cost. I've had no issues with my rifle and the cheekweld. My buddy tried the A1 as well and also didn't like the buttpad but thought the cheekrest was nice because of the feel. He didn't think that the adjustment was worth worrying about but the surface feel of the cheekrest was nicer than the plastic skins. Some on the other hand feel the buttpad is excellent and the cheekrest is too. You just have to check it out yourself. Thats one of the more personal angles to the shooters.
To each his own and its nice that we have these choices.
Frank
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dixie3bass</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bribri</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking about selling my gen 1 SRS to fund the newer A1 version. My chassis is one of the first ones (serial number under 50) so it can not be upgraded to accept the gen 2 conversions.
I guess what I am asking is the juice worth the squeeze if I upgraded, is anybody else in this situation?</div></div>
I had one of the originals too, sold it to buy a covert with monopod, it made more sense to me to sell and buy new. I fell away and bought an AI, but soon sold it to go with the original plan, back with a gen 2 with 2 conversions. Couldn't be happier. I like the new butt pad design if the cost isn't too bad but I don't care about the adj. cheek. Maybe I will change my mind once I get behind one. I am now toying with the idea of a airbrush camo paint job. I feel like it deserves more than krylon. </div></div>
I tried the new A1 at the SHOT show and I didn't like the new buttpad and didn't really feel the cheekrest was worth any extra cost. I've had no issues with my rifle and the cheekweld. My buddy tried the A1 as well and also didn't like the buttpad but thought the cheekrest was nice because of the feel. He didn't think that the adjustment was worth worrying about but the surface feel of the cheekrest was nicer than the plastic skins. Some on the other hand feel the buttpad is excellent and the cheekrest is too. You just have to check it out yourself. Thats one of the more personal angles to the shooters.
To each his own and its nice that we have these choices.
Frank
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bribri</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking about selling my gen 1 SRS to fund the newer A1 version. My chassis is one of the first ones (serial number under 50) so it can not be upgraded to accept the gen 2 conversions.
I guess what I am asking is the juice worth the squeeze if I upgraded, is anybody else in this situation? </div></div>
I have rifle 177 and I seem to be content with it being a Gen1. I am just happy to have a DTA and the fact that I pretty much stole it helps! ;-)
I am even getting ready to order a couple more Gen1 barrel extensions for biffj to start making me barrels, because even if my gun is converatble (which I am pretty sure it isn't) I don't plan on converting it to Gen2.
As for the bolt coating, I am glad you brought up the tight lug tolerances. That is one thing biffj and I talked about when I brough it up to him before posting. I am going to order the new bolt with .338 head on it for a barrel I am having made, so I will probably go ahead and buy a .308 head also and just get the body on it coated and not the heads. Probably with NP3 also and not Nickle Boron.
Thanks again for all these tips. Now to find a good dip or spray for her.....this foilage looking green makes me gag!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bribri</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking about selling my gen 1 SRS to fund the newer A1 version. My chassis is one of the first ones (serial number under 50) so it can not be upgraded to accept the gen 2 conversions.
I guess what I am asking is the juice worth the squeeze if I upgraded, is anybody else in this situation? </div></div>
I have rifle 177 and I seem to be content with it being a Gen1. I am just happy to have a DTA and the fact that I pretty much stole it helps! ;-)
I am even getting ready to order a couple more Gen1 barrel extensions for biffj to start making me barrels, because even if my gun is converatble (which I am pretty sure it isn't) I don't plan on converting it to Gen2.
As for the bolt coating, I am glad you brought up the tight lug tolerances. That is one thing biffj and I talked about when I brough it up to him before posting. I am going to order the new bolt with .338 head on it for a barrel I am having made, so I will probably go ahead and buy a .308 head also and just get the body on it coated and not the heads. Probably with NP3 also and not Nickle Boron.
Thanks again for all these tips. Now to find a good dip or spray for her.....this foilage looking green makes me gag!!
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bribri</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking about selling my gen 1 SRS to fund the newer A1 version. My chassis is one of the first ones (serial number under 50) so it can not be upgraded to accept the gen 2 conversions.
I guess what I am asking is the juice worth the squeeze if I upgraded, is anybody else in this situation? </div></div>
With DTA's gov contract, they will be producing gen 1 barrels for a minimum of 20 years. Although in not the exact position as you, I am 14 weeks into a wait for a gen 2 from DTA. I considered letting the rifle go to someone else and jump in line for an A1. After talking to I do believe Ryan at DTA, I would be stupid to jump out of line as ITS THE EXACT SAME RIFLE with 2 less letters on the name. You on the other hand do not have your chassis milled for the cheekpiece, which a lack of cheekpiece is an issue that most users do not have an issue with. I would not opt for a cheekpiece if I was to order an A1, and by the way... It is optional. I was told that they do not ship with them, unless ordered with. You could probably save a few bucks by not having to change skins by ordering it in the beginning vs upgrading.
With that being said, I would imagine that you are going to take a pretty big hit selling yours to upgrade unless you find a sucker and can pass it off as like new. I'd put those funds towards an HTI if I was you. Its inevidable that two years from now you are going to be faced with this exact same issue when the A2 is unveiled. Nick hit it out of the park with the gen1. Gen1 to A1 seems to be a pointless upgrade to me, unless I crapped 100$ bills all day long.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bribri</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking about selling my gen 1 SRS to fund the newer A1 version. My chassis is one of the first ones (serial number under 50) so it can not be upgraded to accept the gen 2 conversions.
I guess what I am asking is the juice worth the squeeze if I upgraded, is anybody else in this situation? </div></div>
With DTA's gov contract, they will be producing gen 1 barrels for a minimum of 20 years. Although in not the exact position as you, I am 14 weeks into a wait for a gen 2 from DTA. I considered letting the rifle go to someone else and jump in line for an A1. After talking to I do believe Ryan at DTA, I would be stupid to jump out of line as ITS THE EXACT SAME RIFLE with 2 less letters on the name. You on the other hand do not have your chassis milled for the cheekpiece, which a lack of cheekpiece is an issue that most users do not have an issue with. I would not opt for a cheekpiece if I was to order an A1, and by the way... It is optional. I was told that they do not ship with them, unless ordered with. You could probably save a few bucks by not having to change skins by ordering it in the beginning vs upgrading.
With that being said, I would imagine that you are going to take a pretty big hit selling yours to upgrade unless you find a sucker and can pass it off as like new. I'd put those funds towards an HTI if I was you. Its inevidable that two years from now you are going to be faced with this exact same issue when the A2 is unveiled. Nick hit it out of the park with the gen1. Gen1 to A1 seems to be a pointless upgrade to me, unless I crapped 100$ bills all day long.
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
Question for you Covert owners out there. I am aware that placing the bipod half way down the rail on the SRS is the best way to mount it. What about the Covert? With the handguard being so much shorter, is the sweet spot the end, or do I want to split the difference as well?
Question for you Covert owners out there. I am aware that placing the bipod half way down the rail on the SRS is the best way to mount it. What about the Covert? With the handguard being so much shorter, is the sweet spot the end, or do I want to split the difference as well?
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Question for you Covert owners out there. I am aware that placing the bipod half way down the rail on the SRS is the best way to mount it. What about the Covert? With the handguard being so much shorter, is the sweet spot the end, or do I want to split the difference as well?</div></div>
I run my atlas a quarter of the way back, then I can fold it back if I want. Works well for me.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Question for you Covert owners out there. I am aware that placing the bipod half way down the rail on the SRS is the best way to mount it. What about the Covert? With the handguard being so much shorter, is the sweet spot the end, or do I want to split the difference as well?</div></div>
I run my atlas a quarter of the way back, then I can fold it back if I want. Works well for me.
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
I mount mine on the front of the rail. The bipod itself can be put on with the legs forward or back so that changes where the pivot is. I can't tell any difference between the long SRS handguard or the shorter covert and their bipod locations. I think you'll just have to try it out yourself and choose. I think I set up the long one the way I did because it allowed the legs to fold forward and it fit in the case like that. With the short handguards the bipod won't fit in the case unless I cut the foam out so I sometimes put it on with the legs folding forward, sometimes back. The bipod is removed for putting in the case and it fits where it did with the long handguard in the old foam cutout.
I just realized after looking at these pictures that my SRS handguard did have the straight slots....the newer ones are like the covert handguard with the angled slots.
Frank
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I mount mine on the front of the rail. The bipod itself can be put on with the legs forward or back so that changes where the pivot is. I can't tell any difference between the long SRS handguard or the shorter covert and their bipod locations. I think you'll just have to try it out yourself and choose. I think I set up the long one the way I did because it allowed the legs to fold forward and it fit in the case like that. With the short handguards the bipod won't fit in the case unless I cut the foam out so I sometimes put it on with the legs folding forward, sometimes back. The bipod is removed for putting in the case and it fits where it did with the long handguard in the old foam cutout.
I just realized after looking at these pictures that my SRS handguard did have the straight slots....the newer ones are like the covert handguard with the angled slots.
Frank
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Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
Both very nice looking rifles. I gotta get one ordered soon.
Both very nice looking rifles. I gotta get one ordered soon.
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sib1948</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Both very nice looking rifles. I gotta get one ordered soon.</div></div>
Actually they are both the same rifle. I swapped out the long handguard for the short one so I could use the shorter barrels I need for subsonic rounds. Not much sense in going over the legal limit when you're looking for 1050 fps.
Same can in both pics too. The top one is when the can was new and the other was after 1000rds or so and a few torture tests.
Frank
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sib1948</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Both very nice looking rifles. I gotta get one ordered soon.</div></div>
Actually they are both the same rifle. I swapped out the long handguard for the short one so I could use the shorter barrels I need for subsonic rounds. Not much sense in going over the legal limit when you're looking for 1050 fps.
Same can in both pics too. The top one is when the can was new and the other was after 1000rds or so and a few torture tests.
Frank
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cookie The Swede</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I ordered mine on 10/20/2012. Still nothing...
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My dealer received it today. Should be in my hands Friday. Ordered 11/28. I hope you have some 308s loaded up Russ.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cookie The Swede</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I ordered mine on 10/20/2012. Still nothing...
My dealer received it today. Should be in my hands Friday. Ordered 11/28. I hope you have some 308s loaded up Russ.
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
Any advice for proper barrel break-in on my new covert 308? This is my first bolt rifle. I am hoping to put 100 rounds of DTM through the barrel before I attempt to workup a load. Hopefully they have them in stock.
I have read guys shoot 1 round, bore snake, cool, then repeat X amount of times to break-in. I have also read from others that that procedure is hogwash. What do you guys think is best?
Also, anyone know what brass DTM uses with their 338 Lapua? I am thinking Lapua is the only way to go for reloading the 338. Anyone care to comment on that statement? It appears SW Ammo uses Lapua for their 338, and the cost reflects it. Anyone tried the SW out of their 338 DTA?
Any advice for proper barrel break-in on my new covert 308? This is my first bolt rifle. I am hoping to put 100 rounds of DTM through the barrel before I attempt to workup a load. Hopefully they have them in stock.
I have read guys shoot 1 round, bore snake, cool, then repeat X amount of times to break-in. I have also read from others that that procedure is hogwash. What do you guys think is best?
Also, anyone know what brass DTM uses with their 338 Lapua? I am thinking Lapua is the only way to go for reloading the 338. Anyone care to comment on that statement? It appears SW Ammo uses Lapua for their 338, and the cost reflects it. Anyone tried the SW out of their 338 DTA?
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any advice for proper barrel break-in on my new covert 308? This is my first bolt rifle. I am hoping to put 100 rounds of DTM through the barrel before I attempt to workup a load. Hopefully they have them in stock.
I have read guys shoot 1 round, bore snake, cool, then repeat X amount of times to break-in. I have also read from others that that procedure is hogwash. What do you guys think is best?
Also, anyone know what brass DTM uses with their 338 Lapua? I am thinking Lapua is the only way to go for reloading the 338. Anyone care to comment on that statement? It appears SW Ammo uses Lapua for their 338, and the cost reflects it. Anyone tried the SW out of their 338 DTA? </div></div>
I just shot mine from the get-go and after the first range trip (50rds) cleaned the barrel. Since then I've used my typical cleaning frequency and methods with no issues to date.
As for DTM ammo, I called Russ a week ago and he said he is back-ordered for roughly 6 months due to demand and availability of components from his distributors. It really sucks, but these are the days we live in.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any advice for proper barrel break-in on my new covert 308? This is my first bolt rifle. I am hoping to put 100 rounds of DTM through the barrel before I attempt to workup a load. Hopefully they have them in stock.
I have read guys shoot 1 round, bore snake, cool, then repeat X amount of times to break-in. I have also read from others that that procedure is hogwash. What do you guys think is best?
Also, anyone know what brass DTM uses with their 338 Lapua? I am thinking Lapua is the only way to go for reloading the 338. Anyone care to comment on that statement? It appears SW Ammo uses Lapua for their 338, and the cost reflects it. Anyone tried the SW out of their 338 DTA? </div></div>
I just shot mine from the get-go and after the first range trip (50rds) cleaned the barrel. Since then I've used my typical cleaning frequency and methods with no issues to date.
As for DTM ammo, I called Russ a week ago and he said he is back-ordered for roughly 6 months due to demand and availability of components from his distributors. It really sucks, but these are the days we live in.
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Also, anyone know what brass DTM uses with their 338 Lapua? I am thinking Lapua is the only way to go for reloading the 338. Anyone care to comment on that statement? It appears SW Ammo uses Lapua for their 338, and the cost reflects it. Anyone tried the SW out of their 338 DTA? </div></div>
My apologies on the availability of anything .308. Im working on it and may have a fix sooner than later.
Bertram Brass. Our 338 availability isn't nearly as hampered as other calibers. Lapua has been lacking in the QA/QC department and we have proven the Bertram to outshoot the Lapua with 20 shot groups at 1550 yards.
You can't beat our prices on 338 Lapua. Not with the same accuracy and precision. It has been shot against every other on the market.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Also, anyone know what brass DTM uses with their 338 Lapua? I am thinking Lapua is the only way to go for reloading the 338. Anyone care to comment on that statement? It appears SW Ammo uses Lapua for their 338, and the cost reflects it. Anyone tried the SW out of their 338 DTA? </div></div>
My apologies on the availability of anything .308. Im working on it and may have a fix sooner than later.
Bertram Brass. Our 338 availability isn't nearly as hampered as other calibers. Lapua has been lacking in the QA/QC department and we have proven the Bertram to outshoot the Lapua with 20 shot groups at 1550 yards.
You can't beat our prices on 338 Lapua. Not with the same accuracy and precision. It has been shot against every other on the market.
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
What about the 375CT ? I have the 50 hti in my hands and ordered 375 conversion and all available accessories first of January. Also 100 rds of 375 and some 50 too. Was told about 6 week weight just wondering if that's about right ?
What about the 375CT ? I have the 50 hti in my hands and ordered 375 conversion and all available accessories first of January. Also 100 rds of 375 and some 50 too. Was told about 6 week weight just wondering if that's about right ?
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chiroman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about the 375CT ? I have the 50 hti in my hands and ordered 375 conversion and all available accessories first of January. Also 100 rds of 375 and some 50 too. Was told about 6 week weight just wondering if that's about right ?
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I'm on it! We are loading .375 right now. Well I am feeding my face, but we are mid lot on .375.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chiroman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about the 375CT ? I have the 50 hti in my hands and ordered 375 conversion and all available accessories first of January. Also 100 rds of 375 and some 50 too. Was told about 6 week weight just wondering if that's about right ?
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I'm on it! We are loading .375 right now. Well I am feeding my face, but we are mid lot on .375.
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chiroman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about the 375CT ? I have the 50 hti in my hands and ordered 375 conversion and all available accessories first of January. Also 100 rds of 375 and some 50 too. Was told about 6 week weight just wondering if that's about right ?
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I am curious what your impressions are about your HTI .50BMG. Is the recoil and eye relief a problem? May I also ask what kind of accuracy you are seeing? Scope mount tilt and scope combo?
Sorry to be so nosey, but I am deciding in which direction to shovel my next pile of fiat currency.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chiroman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about the 375CT ? I have the 50 hti in my hands and ordered 375 conversion and all available accessories first of January. Also 100 rds of 375 and some 50 too. Was told about 6 week weight just wondering if that's about right ?
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I am curious what your impressions are about your HTI .50BMG. Is the recoil and eye relief a problem? May I also ask what kind of accuracy you are seeing? Scope mount tilt and scope combo?
Sorry to be so nosey, but I am deciding in which direction to shovel my next pile of fiat currency.
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
Russ that's awesome!
Nukes I haven't got around to shooting it yet. I ordered a beast to go on it but can't wait til may or June so I believe I Will pick up a atacr and it will go in the DTA 40moa mount. Once the beast comes in I will put it on.
I will shoot dta ammo first but I I reload and have a buddy that does most all of my reloading so I will reload after.
I also broke my leg rt before Dallas sci where I picked up my hti from Alex at euro optics so that thru a kink. However after getting a plate and 6 screws in fibula and 2 screws in tibia I am up walking now and shooting as much as possible.
Will post picks and let u know results.
Russ that's awesome!
Nukes I haven't got around to shooting it yet. I ordered a beast to go on it but can't wait til may or June so I believe I Will pick up a atacr and it will go in the DTA 40moa mount. Once the beast comes in I will put it on.
I will shoot dta ammo first but I I reload and have a buddy that does most all of my reloading so I will reload after.
I also broke my leg rt before Dallas sci where I picked up my hti from Alex at euro optics so that thru a kink. However after getting a plate and 6 screws in fibula and 2 screws in tibia I am up walking now and shooting as much as possible.
Will post picks and let u know results.
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
Russ,
Are you guys still using the 300 gr Bergers for your DTM 338 LM factory ammo?
Please advise.
Russ,
Are you guys still using the 300 gr Bergers for your DTM 338 LM factory ammo?
Please advise.
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Russ,
Are you guys still using the 300 gr Bergers for your DTM 338 LM factory ammo?
Please advise. </div></div>
Yes, 300 gr Berger OTM Tactical. They hit a home run with that bullet. unless something major changes that will be our "go to".
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Russ,
Are you guys still using the 300 gr Bergers for your DTM 338 LM factory ammo?
Please advise. </div></div>
Yes, 300 gr Berger OTM Tactical. They hit a home run with that bullet. unless something major changes that will be our "go to".
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
Chirmon- what reticle did you go with on the beast? I went with the H59. I hope they do show up in May, as I have nothing now for the Covert. I really don't expect the weather to be breaking til May so I'm not too bummed about it. When do you expect your ATCKR? That's quite a costly scope for a life expectancy of 3 months lol
Russ- have you reloaded any of those Bertram brass or are you one and doning them? I can't seem to find any info on them except for new rounds. If you are, how many reloads are you getting out of them?
Chirmon- what reticle did you go with on the beast? I went with the H59. I hope they do show up in May, as I have nothing now for the Covert. I really don't expect the weather to be breaking til May so I'm not too bummed about it. When do you expect your ATCKR? That's quite a costly scope for a life expectancy of 3 months lol
Russ- have you reloaded any of those Bertram brass or are you one and doning them? I can't seem to find any info on them except for new rounds. If you are, how many reloads are you getting out of them?
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread
I went with the mil-r I have not been behind a Horus it just looks busy to me. I can put the atacr on another rifle that has a nxs on it when beast shows up. I might just use my regular nxs for playing around but it's MOA and I converted all my other scopes to mil so it's gonna go eventually.
I am in Oklahoma so by the time may rolls around its getting hot hear
I went with the mil-r I have not been behind a Horus it just looks busy to me. I can put the atacr on another rifle that has a nxs on it when beast shows up. I might just use my regular nxs for playing around but it's MOA and I converted all my other scopes to mil so it's gonna go eventually.
I am in Oklahoma so by the time may rolls around its getting hot hear
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Russ- have you reloaded any of those Bertram brass or are you one and doning them? I can't seem to find any info on them except for new rounds. If you are, how many reloads are you getting out of them? </div></div>
Yes, I have been reloading my personal ammo using the Bertram brass. A couple things to note. 1st: Bertram anneals more of the case than other manufacturers. I questioned this at first but it has shown to be a very stable and reliable brass. Who am I to question the man. I have not had to re-anneal yet over multiple loads. My ammo is not "hot" by any means. Im all about extreme accuracy, not pushing the speed envelope. 2nd: The Bertram neck walls are just a touch thinner than other brass. If you are using bushing dies, you will need a slightly tighter bushing. In the redding, I use a .363 to get MY desired tension. If you are using a set of RCBS full length dies, they are perfect as is. Atleast my set is.
Russ @ DTM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Russ- have you reloaded any of those Bertram brass or are you one and doning them? I can't seem to find any info on them except for new rounds. If you are, how many reloads are you getting out of them? </div></div>
Yes, I have been reloading my personal ammo using the Bertram brass. A couple things to note. 1st: Bertram anneals more of the case than other manufacturers. I questioned this at first but it has shown to be a very stable and reliable brass. Who am I to question the man. I have not had to re-anneal yet over multiple loads. My ammo is not "hot" by any means. Im all about extreme accuracy, not pushing the speed envelope. 2nd: The Bertram neck walls are just a touch thinner than other brass. If you are using bushing dies, you will need a slightly tighter bushing. In the redding, I use a .363 to get MY desired tension. If you are using a set of RCBS full length dies, they are perfect as is. Atleast my set is.
Russ @ DTM
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Thanks for the info Russ. I think I'll go ahead and get 100 of them. Do you know how long it takes to get the 26" 338 conversion kit? I was told its about a month out on the 338 rounds. If that's the same timeframe as the barrel id be in luck. Also, is prepayment required for out of stock items such as ammo and conversion kits?
Thanks for the info Russ. I think I'll go ahead and get 100 of them. Do you know how long it takes to get the 26" 338 conversion kit? I was told its about a month out on the 338 rounds. If that's the same timeframe as the barrel id be in luck. Also, is prepayment required for out of stock items such as ammo and conversion kits?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the info Russ. I think I'll go ahead and get 100 of them. Do you know how long it takes to get the 26" 338 conversion kit? I was told its about a month out on the 338 rounds. If that's the same timeframe as the barrel id be in luck. Also, is prepayment required for out of stock items such as ammo and conversion kits? </div></div>
Sorry Bro, I am not the guy that can answer your questions on prepayment and time frame on conversions. I do know that as soon as I get my next load of Bergers they will be hitting the press!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the info Russ. I think I'll go ahead and get 100 of them. Do you know how long it takes to get the 26" 338 conversion kit? I was told its about a month out on the 338 rounds. If that's the same timeframe as the barrel id be in luck. Also, is prepayment required for out of stock items such as ammo and conversion kits? </div></div>
Sorry Bro, I am not the guy that can answer your questions on prepayment and time frame on conversions. I do know that as soon as I get my next load of Bergers they will be hitting the press!
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Russ:
Midwayusa showes these 300 gr Berger OTM bullets as "Discontinued by Manufacturer"
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1076141...-open-tip-match
Are these 300 gr. Berger Elite Hunting MHP the same thing re-named? they sure look to be...
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/192864/...oint-box-of-100
Russ:
Midwayusa showes these 300 gr Berger OTM bullets as "Discontinued by Manufacturer"
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1076141...-open-tip-match
Are these 300 gr. Berger Elite Hunting MHP the same thing re-named? they sure look to be...
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/192864/...oint-box-of-100
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Russ:
Midwayusa showes these 300 gr Berger OTM bullets as "Discontinued by Manufacturer"
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1076141...-open-tip-match
Are these 300 gr. Berger Elite Hunting MHP the same thing re-named? they sure look to be...
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/192864/...oint-box-of-100 </div></div>
Click on the 100 option. The 50 and 250 boxes were discontinued.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Russ:
Midwayusa showes these 300 gr Berger OTM bullets as "Discontinued by Manufacturer"
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1076141...-open-tip-match
Are these 300 gr. Berger Elite Hunting MHP the same thing re-named? they sure look to be...
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/192864/...oint-box-of-100 </div></div>
Click on the 100 option. The 50 and 250 boxes were discontinued.
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I've sold off my entire collection waiting to get the SRS A-1 and a HTI. They keep telling me its gonna be a few more weeks before the A-1 ships out. Most HTI's are back ordered, wont be chambered in .416 Barrett for 2-3 months. They will be well worth the wait though!
I've sold off my entire collection waiting to get the SRS A-1 and a HTI. They keep telling me its gonna be a few more weeks before the A-1 ships out. Most HTI's are back ordered, wont be chambered in .416 Barrett for 2-3 months. They will be well worth the wait though!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chiroman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...Nukes I haven't got around to shooting it yet. I ordered a beast to go on it but can't wait til may or June so I believe I Will pick up a atacr and it will go in the DTA 40moa mount. Once the beast comes in I will put it on.
I will shoot dta ammo first but I I reload and have a buddy that does most all of my reloading so I will reload after.
I also broke my leg rt before Dallas sci where I picked up my hti from Alex at euro optics so that thru a kink. However after getting a plate and 6 screws in fibula and 2 screws in tibia I am up walking now and shooting as much as possible.
Will post picks and let u know results.
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Much appreciated. I will keep my eyes peeled for your report. In the meantime, I pray for your speedy recovery.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chiroman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...Nukes I haven't got around to shooting it yet. I ordered a beast to go on it but can't wait til may or June so I believe I Will pick up a atacr and it will go in the DTA 40moa mount. Once the beast comes in I will put it on.
I will shoot dta ammo first but I I reload and have a buddy that does most all of my reloading so I will reload after.
I also broke my leg rt before Dallas sci where I picked up my hti from Alex at euro optics so that thru a kink. However after getting a plate and 6 screws in fibula and 2 screws in tibia I am up walking now and shooting as much as possible.
Will post picks and let u know results.
</div></div>
Much appreciated. I will keep my eyes peeled for your report. In the meantime, I pray for your speedy recovery.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badbehr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've sold off my entire collection waiting to get the SRS A-1 and a HTI. They keep telling me its gonna be a few more weeks before the A-1 ships out. Most HTI's are back ordered, wont be chambered in .416 Barrett for 2-3 months. They will be well worth the wait though! </div></div>
Why a .416 if I may ask?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badbehr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've sold off my entire collection waiting to get the SRS A-1 and a HTI. They keep telling me its gonna be a few more weeks before the A-1 ships out. Most HTI's are back ordered, wont be chambered in .416 Barrett for 2-3 months. They will be well worth the wait though! </div></div>
Why a .416 if I may ask?
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A1 will start shipping march to April timeframe guys.
A1 will start shipping march to April timeframe guys.
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Any one stipple their grip yet? I was thinking it might help in the rain/hot weather? Pics if you did, please.
Any one stipple their grip yet? I was thinking it might help in the rain/hot weather? Pics if you did, please.
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Well I finished day one of my first match with my new DTA in .243 down here at K&M.
My impressions are that the gun is damn accurate and very easy to be accurate with. It's also easy to shoot from positional stages, barricades, rocks.....off your partners shoulder. If you're shooting in a match, you need to put rail covers anywhere rail is exposed......you don't realize how much running around grabbing that rail all day wears your hands out.
Which brings me to the mags......the mags are a pain in the butt.
First they're hard to load. Secondly, because of the small round count, you're loading them all the time. Third, because the metal is kinda cheap, the edges cut up your finger tips and scratch up your brass because of the way you have to push the round in. Spend some time loading up 20 rounds in two AW mags and then load up 18 rounds in three DTA mags....then do that three days in a row, all day long at a match and you'll see what I mean.
In fact, the magazine is the only thing I can find about the rifle that I don't really care for. High round count stages require a lot more planning and thinking about when to you need to reload.
I had a lot of people tell me they don't like the awkward bolt throw. Frankly, I dont see that at all. The bolt doesn't throw as smooth or precision feeling as say a Badger or a Bat action....it's kinda gritty feeling, but as far as the bull pup position and how hard or awkward it is to throw, that I didnt find to be an issue at all. In fact just the opposite. In a fast paced match, I found the ergonomics and compactness to be an advantage.
So in short, I'm really digging the rifle and as soon as I got more range time with it.....I'm sure I'll like it even more.
Just wished there was a high quality 10 round mag option.
Well I finished day one of my first match with my new DTA in .243 down here at K&M.
My impressions are that the gun is damn accurate and very easy to be accurate with. It's also easy to shoot from positional stages, barricades, rocks.....off your partners shoulder. If you're shooting in a match, you need to put rail covers anywhere rail is exposed......you don't realize how much running around grabbing that rail all day wears your hands out.
Which brings me to the mags......the mags are a pain in the butt.
First they're hard to load. Secondly, because of the small round count, you're loading them all the time. Third, because the metal is kinda cheap, the edges cut up your finger tips and scratch up your brass because of the way you have to push the round in. Spend some time loading up 20 rounds in two AW mags and then load up 18 rounds in three DTA mags....then do that three days in a row, all day long at a match and you'll see what I mean.
In fact, the magazine is the only thing I can find about the rifle that I don't really care for. High round count stages require a lot more planning and thinking about when to you need to reload.
I had a lot of people tell me they don't like the awkward bolt throw. Frankly, I dont see that at all. The bolt doesn't throw as smooth or precision feeling as say a Badger or a Bat action....it's kinda gritty feeling, but as far as the bull pup position and how hard or awkward it is to throw, that I didnt find to be an issue at all. In fact just the opposite. In a fast paced match, I found the ergonomics and compactness to be an advantage.
So in short, I'm really digging the rifle and as soon as I got more range time with it.....I'm sure I'll like it even more.
Just wished there was a high quality 10 round mag option.
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10 rounders are on their way bud. With more posts like this, I'm sure it will be sooner than later. Thanks for the write up. Not too many range reports in these 75 pages.
10 rounders are on their way bud. With more posts like this, I'm sure it will be sooner than later. Thanks for the write up. Not too many range reports in these 75 pages.
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Love my.243 I have done fairly well. I shoot the 115 DTAC. Love it. Good luck you will enjoy that round. As for the mags I have come home bloody a few times, and sore fingers. There not bad once you get used to them. This is the first gun I have owned that takes a mag so I don't have a comparison but I can say it didnt take long to know where the sharp corners are and it didnt take long for me to take a file and round off all the corners, made a huge difference.
Love my.243 I have done fairly well. I shoot the 115 DTAC. Love it. Good luck you will enjoy that round. As for the mags I have come home bloody a few times, and sore fingers. There not bad once you get used to them. This is the first gun I have owned that takes a mag so I don't have a comparison but I can say it didnt take long to know where the sharp corners are and it didnt take long for me to take a file and round off all the corners, made a huge difference.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lofty</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In fact, the magazine is the only thing I can find about the rifle that I don't really care for.</div></div>
You're in the same boat as the rest of us. The fact that they are longer than AI mags is a benefit as is the shoulder retention feature, but the round count limitation can be a real annoyance at times. As for difficulty in loading, give it time. Mags I've had for a few years don't bother me one bit, but some new short action mags I got recently are a bit tough. I think they just need to be broken in.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lofty</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In fact, the magazine is the only thing I can find about the rifle that I don't really care for.</div></div>
You're in the same boat as the rest of us. The fact that they are longer than AI mags is a benefit as is the shoulder retention feature, but the round count limitation can be a real annoyance at times. As for difficulty in loading, give it time. Mags I've had for a few years don't bother me one bit, but some new short action mags I got recently are a bit tough. I think they just need to be broken in.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cookie The Swede</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any one stipple their grip yet? I was thinking it might help in the rain/hot weather? Pics if you did, please. </div></div>
Yes.... I'd be interested to see this as well.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cookie The Swede</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any one stipple their grip yet? I was thinking it might help in the rain/hot weather? Pics if you did, please. </div></div>
Yes.... I'd be interested to see this as well.
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Steve Reichert has done it to his srs grips and its pretty nice. Look on his Facebook page.
Steve Reichert has done it to his srs grips and its pretty nice. Look on his Facebook page.
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http://stevereichert.com/wp-content/uploads/SR-DTA-PSR.jpg
Here is a picture... of the grip.
http://stevereichert.com/wp-content/uploads/SR-DTA-PSR.jpg
Here is a picture... of the grip.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bear308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://stevereichert.com/wp-content/uploads/SR-DTA-PSR.jpg
Here is a picture... of the grip.
</div></div>
Shit that looks good!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bear308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://stevereichert.com/wp-content/uploads/SR-DTA-PSR.jpg
Here is a picture... of the grip.
</div></div>
Shit that looks good!
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Hey Lofty, How did you do at the match with the DTA. We're you at the Gap grind ? Any more observations with the rifle ?
Hey Lofty, How did you do at the match with the DTA. We're you at the Gap grind ? Any more observations with the rifle ?
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You can remove Gen1 and replace it with Gen2 but I dont believe they can be converted.
You can remove Gen1 and replace it with Gen2 but I dont believe they can be converted.
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By conversion you mean modify, right? Unless your a skilled machinist with some good equipment,which you may be,you might be able to pull it off. Otherwise I would save and just buy a gen 2 extension. Good Luck
By conversion you mean modify, right? Unless your a skilled machinist with some good equipment,which you may be,you might be able to pull it off. Otherwise I would save and just buy a gen 2 extension. Good Luck
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Anyone ordered any accessories lately from DTA? What was your delivery window? I ordered a scope mount a couple weeks ago and still don't have it. I'm jonzing to put some rounds downrange with my new covert.
Anyone running a Spuhr mount on their DTA? I just came across them today, and they appear to be built like a tank. I'm digging the built in level as well.
Anyone ordered any accessories lately from DTA? What was your delivery window? I ordered a scope mount a couple weeks ago and still don't have it. I'm jonzing to put some rounds downrange with my new covert.
Anyone running a Spuhr mount on their DTA? I just came across them today, and they appear to be built like a tank. I'm digging the built in level as well.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badbehr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've sold off my entire collection waiting to get the SRS A-1 and a HTI. They keep telling me its gonna be a few more weeks before the A-1 ships out. Most HTI's are back ordered, wont be chambered in .416 Barrett for 2-3 months. They will be well worth the wait though! </div></div>
They told me it would be the end of March and I ordered mine in December.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Badbehr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've sold off my entire collection waiting to get the SRS A-1 and a HTI. They keep telling me its gonna be a few more weeks before the A-1 ships out. Most HTI's are back ordered, wont be chambered in .416 Barrett for 2-3 months. They will be well worth the wait though! </div></div>
They told me it would be the end of March and I ordered mine in December.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone ordered any accessories lately from DTA? What was your delivery window? I ordered a scope mount a couple weeks ago and still don't have it. I'm jonzing to put some rounds downrange with my new covert.
Anyone running a Spuhr mount on their DTA? I just came across them today, and they appear to be built like a tank. I'm digging the built in level as well. </div></div> I ordered 3 small items all in stock and it took week and a half to ship out ...was told they were backed up on shipping...hope that helps
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mikeltee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone ordered any accessories lately from DTA? What was your delivery window? I ordered a scope mount a couple weeks ago and still don't have it. I'm jonzing to put some rounds downrange with my new covert.
Anyone running a Spuhr mount on their DTA? I just came across them today, and they appear to be built like a tank. I'm digging the built in level as well. </div></div> I ordered 3 small items all in stock and it took week and a half to ship out ...was told they were backed up on shipping...hope that helps
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Guys, please be patient. This crunch that everyone is feeling in the industry isn't only for ARs. DTA is running like madmen to try to get this stuff done. Josh, our shipping manager is doing his damnedest to get this stuff shipped in a timely manner. Our sales staff is on the phone from the time they get there to the time they leave work, usually late. Machinists are bald and starving, don't even get me started on the ammo.
We are doing our best guys. Be patient, we will get there!
Russ @ DTM.
Guys, please be patient. This crunch that everyone is feeling in the industry isn't only for ARs. DTA is running like madmen to try to get this stuff done. Josh, our shipping manager is doing his damnedest to get this stuff shipped in a timely manner. Our sales staff is on the phone from the time they get there to the time they leave work, usually late. Machinists are bald and starving, don't even get me started on the ammo.
We are doing our best guys. Be patient, we will get there!
Russ @ DTM.
