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Well if you want to be a grammar nazi it's "y'all" = abbreviation for "You all". The "be n" I'll assume is either redneck prose or maybe just your keyboard sticks like mine from spilled coffee.
Yaw is the twisting or oscillation of a boat or plane around a vertical access.
You know why divorces are so expensive don't you??
Because they're fucking worth it. Every last cent!! By bitch...
Well your expectations are unrealistic, have you met us?
Just like communism cannot work due to human nature, so too anarchy cannot exist for the same reason.
To blow your minds….a monarchy with a Godly and good king works well but again….eventually his shitbird son will assume the throne and then you have Lords fawking other dude’s brides and burning MFrs at the stake.
We
Are
Tribal
It is how we are wired and designed.
Actually, that not what youve posted. I cant quote word for word, but by my memory you state that ALL forms of government are evil and we should have anarchy with vigilante justice. Somebody gets out of line, the homey's go take care of him, her or it. YOu continually fail to se that your vision is also a form of government. DOH!
What Ive repeatedly tried to point out is that its not the form or type of government but the people running it which are corrupt. I think that most people are basically good and just want to do their work and be left alone. Unfortunately, as Lord Ackton so succinctly put it,
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely"
Youre not that far off, but your narrow view misses the core issue. Learn to think outside your narrow perspective and you'll see more accurately
Ok, Ive wasted enough energy here..
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Close. Plato suggested a 'Philosopher King'. Since Im the Hide philosopher, that would make ME king.
Bow, peons.
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Nope. He's right. He said around a vertical access, which, even though using the wrong word, we still understood what he meant... which is correct. If you rotate around a horizontal axis, you get pitch.Umm yaw is.
Horizontal axis
Or roll
Both the roll and pitch axis are horizontal. The roll axis is longitudinal, the pitch axis is transverse.
"Axes" is plural of axis. Just sayin'...
Also... "Y'all" is correct. Or "All Y'all". Or "You'uns".
Ive mentioned this solution before....all govt jobs should be selective service. Your number comes up, you do four years and then your done for life. Changes at two year intervals.
No normal person wants to be in charge of govt.
Of course, you cant be a felon, must be natural born citizen. Maybe some other rules like that.
No normal person wants to be in charge of govt.
Of course, you cant be a felon, must be natural born citizen. Maybe some other rules like that.
That’s fine if everyone else needs nannies. Just let me have my spot and leave me the fuck alone
I would have to think on that for a while but first blush it seems like it would be a good thing as long as you couldn’t use the contacts you made for personal gain by way of screwing over the government and taxpayers. And lobbyists would be outlawed.
That’s ridiculous. Some form of government is needed for weights and measures standards, defense and legal recourse at a minimum. The lowest form of government I have seen in remote areas are village elders who settle disputes and mete out justice and everyone toes the line or they get the consequences for their rebellion to the village by the village. We need common rules that everyone uses a guide rails for the peaceful co-existence and defense of the society. It’s the adding of exceptions (that are usually based on greed and power) that jack up a good thing.
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A great read by Jack Donovan:
www.jack-donovan.com
Excerpts from the link to entice a click and read for the lazy among us.
"All governments — left, right or other — are by their very nature coercive. They have to be. Order demands violence."
"Without action, words are just words. Without violence, laws are just words. Violence isn’t the only answer, but it is the final answer."
"Violence is the final answer to the question, “Or else what?”"
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Even a basic government stripped down to the smallest amount of authority possible should be considered, at the very least a necessary evil, but an evil none the less.
Violence is Golden
www.jack-donovan.com
"All governments — left, right or other — are by their very nature coercive. They have to be. Order demands violence."
"Without action, words are just words. Without violence, laws are just words. Violence isn’t the only answer, but it is the final answer."
"Violence is the final answer to the question, “Or else what?”"
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Even a basic government stripped down to the smallest amount of authority possible should be considered, at the very least a necessary evil, but an evil none the less.
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This post is a bit of a contradiction. First you say it’s the people who are corrupt then quote the “power corrupts” quote. So, chicken or egg? Which is it? Are people either corrupt or good natured? Can people either resist corruption or will they embrace it if given the chance.
I don’t think anyone really believes a person won’t be corrupted with X level of power. I also think the power level needed to corrupt someone is individual. Some can go to Washington and be relatively ok, some can’t be given the power of an hoa treasurer
What I think wade is confusing everyone with is using the terms “state” and “government” interchangeably. It can be kind of a subtle distinction sometimes
And back to your opinions. If everybody who is given power is going to eventually be corrupted, why give them the opportunity in the first place? If some people need to have a “leader”, let an entrepreneur, or group of them, build their own covenant community and charge memberships to live there. This will serve the function of taxes that everyone seems to get so tripped up over. It can be a community as diverse or homogeneous as agreed upon and even be organized like a large city, for those that prefer city life.
And for people who don’t need or want city life, we can live out in the hinterlands and come visit if we need something. Other than that, we want to be able to say “no” to tptb and be left alone
I’ll play a bit.
Can you even understand your own words you write? How does anything you just wrote have anything to do with the quote you just tried to tie it in with. My goodness.
People taking care of the people around them is not government. Its called a sense of community and human nature. Its the tribal concept @Lawless spoke about. Its natural human behavior. Do you notice small towns where everyone knows each other has the lowest crime rates? Have you noticed that small communities tend to have get togethers several times a year? Have you noticed rural people that live away from LEO aren’t raping and pillaging each other? When people know each other they take care of each other. The larger the town and city the harder it is to have a sense of community of course. Steal more of people’s money through taxation, citation, regulation to keep peoples pockets empty and make it costly for anyone to defend themselves or their neighbors and its easy to see how a sense of community is destroyed by gov and intentionally so. Those at the top want people to rely on gov and not rely on each other. If the latter happens, gov is fucked.
Good people do not need government. Bad people do because government institutions protect them. The police ensure their safety from the rest of the community that wouldn’t otherwise tolerate their behavior. Productive members of society are robbed by government so non productive members can be taken care of. These people wouldn’t be tolerated by society otherwise. In other words government itself produces and then protects degeneracy that would not be tolerated by society otherwise and would be dealt with accordingly. I don’t know if zero gov’t is possible but it should always be the goal of any society although I do know that government has to be severely and aggressively limited in scope. This is the major flaw of the constitution and one that the founders acknowledged. It left open paths for aggressive gov’t expansion that we are victims of today. Our gov’t is so large and encompassing that regular people have lost any ability to influence gov’t.
You are correct that power corrupts. Its why a few shouldn’t be in charge of millions. Those that want the job are the last people that should ever have them. Once in gov’t, people lose there individuality. It’s why otherwise decent people are still working gov’t jobs today after the curtain has been pulled back for all to see the criminal enterprise that gov’t is. These people are voluntarily empowering the force that is trying to enslave us all. It’s an immoral and disgusting way to make paycheck. Gov Is nothIng more than a way for the most evil people on the planet to dominate others. That’s it. Do not forget that our own gov’t has been murdering men women and children in the name of covid and impoverishing many more through inflation and taxation. Look at what every major governemnt that exists today has in store for its people. This should throw red flags like a mother fucker. Think a bit.
For the record, Anarchy isn’t one man for himself where everyone is raping and murdering each other. If it were “legal” would you do these things? I thought you were a man of God? There will always be consequences for one’s actions. I just feel that society should dictate these consequences and not government.
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Always striving for it by eliminating and dismantling government as much as possible although it may not be entirely possible. Basically the opposite of what is going on. Ron Paul would agree although he was part of the monster himself.
Give me an example of a government (collection of men who stole power from people at gunpoint) that is working for the interest of the people they are robbing and murdering? This is what gov’t is doing to people that have no recourse due to the willingness to use violence that gov’t possesses.
Having a thread started in my honor is fun.
Any service that is provided by the state can be provided by private individuals or businesses. The motivation to make a profit(without the cronyism so pervasive in politics today) will keep prices down and quality up, or those businesses will not be viable very longA great read by Jack Donovan:
Violence is Golden
Even a basic government stripped down to the smallest amount of authority possible should be considered, at the very least a necessary evil, but an evil none the less.
Defense and justice are the biggest sticking points to most people but it works just like anything else, it just takes a lot of work to accept for quite a few people. Militias could be a partially voluntary defense force to protect a given area. Completely private forces could also be available for hire as another option for protection. And this leads nicely into the next sticking point for most people-law or justice. A large amount of disputes are taken care of much quicker and cheaper(shocker) through private arbitration. This could just continue to be the model going forward. The sticking point for me used to be; What if someone who is found a fault refuses to cooperate? Privacy concerns mean his property cannot just be confiscated, that makes us just as bad as the state. The answer is, that person is exempt from protection for a certain period of time. They become an outlaw. If they don’t want to cooperate and be a fucking adult with the rest of us then they’ll have to suffer some consequences.
I don’t know if anyone knows who Schaefer Cox is but he’s being dicked around by .gov for valuing dangerous freedom over safety. He gave a speech in MT several years ago that talks about a justice system where he lived in AK that was working just fine until they started getting fucked with.
Much of what you wrote aligns very well with the Bible. People know right from wrong, the issue is whether or not they want to adhere to it. That’s all this thread is really about. Oh, and poor grammar.
Yep, whether anyone wants to admit or not the Bible is a very libertarian book. And also whether anyone agrees or not, using the power of the state to get things accomplished is wrong
It is. Many people are comfortable with the government being the arbiters of truth and dictating right from wrong. They defend it. Then later they speak of the injustices and crimes against humanity (evil) perpetrated by the same people in charge of dictating right and wrong and who gets punished and when. Wow. It’s almost like gov is god?
Trumps order about serving in his admin and being barred from any lobbying afterwards for a period of time worked pretty dang well. That man tried to do so much good for this nation, and got shit thrown in his face for it. We deserve the absolute shit show we have now for putting up with the degradation of our country and allowing God to be removed and even actively going against God as a nation. Fix that, and the rest will work out just fine. Morals come from God. As soon as ,"man" becomes the decider of what's right and wrong, there is no right and wrong, and this is what you get.
wait..., so no government? thats the answer? Using small town America (with a gov.) as defense of that answer? Am I missing something? A gov. by the people (whom we don't trust) for the people (who don't need it) I'm lost...
Take me of ignore faggot and see. I guess you can’t expect much from a man that enforces the laws of tyrants onto others for a paycheck and pension thinking he is serving and protecting anything other than a corrupt gov’t. It’s immoral and gross. What a fool. People see right through you and your buddies in blue.
That’s because you aren’t intelligent enough to read and comprehend. I can’t fix that my man.
I used that example to illustrate the idea of close communities. Not government. Damn.It’s all theory anyway. What matters is what we have now. Do you approve of the lockdowns, the lies about covid, the vaccines, the weaponized justice system, corrupt politicians, fake elections, unnecessary banker wars that kill American soldiers, etc all brought to us by large over powerful govt’s? Do you welcome the NWO?
Actually, its not. Yes, the longitudinal axis of the aircraft rotates in the horizontal plane....around the vertical axis.Umm yaw is.
Horizontal axis
So you trust that businesses will not take the opportunity to fill the void left by there being no government? Methinks that again you assume that greed and avarice can easily be kept in check, when history and even the Bible shows us that isn’t so.
Our recent history of the settling of the west tells us many stories of towns being totally subjugated by strong people, businesses and even criminal gangs. And don’t throw out the stale argument that those that don’t like it can simply move elsewhere either. That’s crap and we all know it to be so.
Another glaring error in assumptions being made by some in this thread is the total disregard of the fact that populations will form cities. A small town, rural atmosphere can be ideal, but isn’t always and simply doesn’t work with large population densities.
You trust that government won’t keep taking more and more money and power while hiring more police to crack down on those that try and refuse their advances. This is what is happening right now everywhere in the world. Government is the all powerful criminal gang you mentioned. I would rather take my chances with the roving bandits.
I think most of us can agree that what is accepted as government today is detrimental to society that it rules. Something has to change. We are moments away from chains we will be incapable of breaking.
Thats government. But youre either to blind to see it, or too arrogant and contrary to admit it.
I see it as you being naive and gullible to understand that you don’t have representation. Its an illusion to fool the ignorant and dumb among us. Government today does not represent the people.
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