Piston vs Gas for an AR???

[Rob01]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can not believe this thread is still going on. Same people arguing over 6 pages. Pretty sure none of you are going to change the others mind if it hasn't happened by now LOL </div></div>

I am open to change, and willing to stick around for 100 pages to make sure I get it right.

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And you probably will LOL

 

[EricCartmann]

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Here is my really worn DI Bushmaster with fairly new BCM complete BCG and bolt and fairly new plain milspec trigger. Here is my buddy demonstrating the slide fire and 60-round Surefire mag. We must have shot about 600 rounds of Silver Bear that day without issues!

We all must be "Fuckin Idiots" for thinking a DI can be reliable for 600 rounds of bump firing!!!

[video:youtube]http://youtu.be/mAZ2csk2xYY[/video]

 

[-Nick-]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
We all must be "Fuckin Idiots" for thinking a DI can be reliable for 600 rounds of bump firing!!!
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No just you for not letting things go... Has anyone ever told you that you have issues with holding onto things? You still have your blankey don't you? I'll bet you tie it around your neck when your "winning motorcycle races" and pretend it's your cape...

 

[K_4c]

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Nice sample size EricCartmann... You show us one video of you bump firing your high speed DI and that's suppose to win me over and say that piston ar's are worthless. Nope.

The Marines, SF, private contractors, and various government agencies employ the piston AR... But you just keep writing them off.

 

[EricCartmann]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
We all must be "Fuckin Idiots" for thinking a DI can be reliable for 600 rounds of bump firing!!!
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No just you for not letting things go... Has anyone ever told you that you have issues with holding onto things? You still have your blankey don't you? I'll bet you tie it around your neck when your "winning motorcycle races" and pretend it's your cape... </div></div>

I was in the Army, and one thing we learn as soldiers is always follow your last orders... I am going to assume I am a "Fucking Idiot" until being told otherwise.

 

[EricCartmann]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice sample size EricCartmann... You show us one video of you bump firing your high speed DI and that's suppose to win me over and say that piston ar's are worthless. Nope.

The Marines, SF, private contractors, and various government agencies employ the piston AR... But you just keep writing them off.

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SF do not clean their guns, and they do not pay for their guns, most of the times they do not even get to chose their guns. You don't believe we shot about 600 rounds that day mostly while bump firing?

 

[adam1122]

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JFK!? Did someone just say that all piston guns have carrier tilt issues? Someone needs to do some research on the manufacturing process and parts used in the making of a quality piston gun - no, Im not saying piston is better than DI at all.

Also, the front end weight of a piston gun is negligble compared to a DI....there are 3 parts that way like 2-3 ounces. If you can't hold that up then whoever doesn't deserve to even be shooting the weapon. Hit the weight room first and then bitch about the added weight.

 

[EricCartmann]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SteelShot11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">JFK!? Did someone just say that all piston guns have carrier tilt issues? Someone needs to do some research on the manufacturing process and parts used in the making of a quality piston gun - no, Im not saying piston is better than DI at all.

Also, the front end weight of a piston gun is negligble compared to a DI....there are 3 parts that way like 2-3 ounces. If you can't hold that up then whoever doesn't deserve to even be shooting the weapon. Hit the weight room first and then bitch about the added weight.

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It's simple physics, strike a bolt directly from the key and the bolt will tilt. Yes you can add "ski's" and ramps to limit it, but the bolt naturally wants to tilt. A DI bolt does not tilt because it's gas and not a hammer strike. I will add though, my LWRC M6A2 only shown signs of tilting the first 200 rounds, after that and about 4000 rounds later.. it seems to have stopped completely.

Yes I know I have to hit the weight room. I am a small guy compared to all you "buff" 300 pounders I see at the range. I also prefer a gun that is balanced when shooting offhand. I like the front end to be light.. it's just my preference is all. An FAL has a piston, and so does an AK, and both balances much better than a Piston-AR.

The real deal HK416 pistons are beefy, because they have to be. They are not range toys like the LWRC.

 

[adam1122]

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So I should take my crappy LWRC repr piston gun back and ask for a "real" gun that won't experience carrier tilt?

Do some research before you start talking trash about specific weapon builders....lwrc is not a cmmg, delton, or knock off AR. They build strictly piston guns that meet and exceed mil-spec. Just go look at their web site and read about their process.

I think you might be referring to conversion kit guns or something....not to be insulting here.

 

[Shoottothrill]

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Just my .02 cents. First of all I dont know how many of you go out and shoot 500 hundred rounds in a shooting session, I would guess not many. But if you did I'm sure that either a DI or gas piston gun by a reputable company would handle it no problem.

 

[KillShot]

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[EricCartmann]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SteelShot11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So I should take my crappy LWRC repr piston gun back and ask for a "real" gun that won't experience carrier tilt?

Do some research before you start talking trash about specific weapon builders....lwrc is not a cmmg, delton, or knock off AR. They build strictly piston guns that meet and exceed mil-spec. Just go look at their web site and read about their process.

I think you might be referring to conversion kit guns or something....not to be insulting here. </div></div>

They have a really good marketing dept.

Trade it in if you want to, I plan to keep my LWRC even though I prefer DI. LWRC makes some pretty good guns. My LWRC barrel is the most accurate factory barrel of any AR I have ever owned. Their one-piece carrier has a cool coating on them that keeps the guns slicker than the others. They also spec'd nice with Troy sites, vltor stocks, magpul grip, and they come with pretty good factory triggers. It also works great as long as I am not running it suppressed.

I think LWRC should make DI guns, because they sure do put together a great gun for a decent price.

 

[EricCartmann]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

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Don't give up buddy! You need to educate these fools on how awesome a piston AR is!

 

[jakerz3]

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DI for my 18" SPR and Piston on by 10.5" SBR. I like the piston setups on the shorter rifles especially when suppressed. I feel like there is less blow back and mine runs like a top. Mine is an LWRC, and I have no regrets/complaints, with either rifle to be honest.

 

[bribri]

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This thread is worthless, if you want the best just buy a bolt gun and learn to manipulate the bolt really fast.

Problem Solved........LOL

 

[-Nick-]

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[EricCartmann]

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which one is you?

 

[EricCartmann]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bribri</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This thread is worthless, if you want the best just buy a bolt gun and learn to manipulate the bolt really fast.

Problem Solved........LOL </div></div>

TRUTH!!!!

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/iXp2ruZoxK8"></param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/iXp2ruZoxK8" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> </embed></object> </div></div>

which one is you? </div></div>

I'm not in that video as your mom had me preoccupied in the other room...

 

[K_4c]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">SF do not clean their guns, and they do not pay for their guns, most of the times they do not even get to chose their guns. You don't believe we shot about 600 rounds that day mostly while bump firing? </div></div>

You go through selection? To know as much as you do I take it you were SF as well...SF, EE degree and what else??? Talented individual you are....

And I really don't care if you bump fired 600 rds... What does that prove anyways?

 

[EricCartmann]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">SF do not clean their guns, and they do not pay for their guns, most of the times they do not even get to chose their guns. You don't believe we shot about 600 rounds that day mostly while bump firing? </div></div>

You go through selection? To know as much as you do I take it you were SF as well...SF, EE degree and what else??? Talented individual you are....

And I really don't care if you bump fired 600 rds... What does that prove anyways? </div></div>

I am not SF, nor do I know or served with any. I did do some training with some before, and I can truly say these guys are bad ass. They get new shit for a reason, and all their shit works. They do not sit around the barracks cleaning their weapons like us regular schmucks do.

600 rounds of bump firing with no cleaning does not prove anything to you?

 

[EricCartmann]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/iXp2ruZoxK8"></param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/iXp2ruZoxK8" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> </embed></object> </div></div>

which one is you? </div></div>

I'm not in that video as your mom had me preoccupied in the other room...

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1) I kinda look like my mom, so I can see why you are attracted to her.

2) Do you always post videos of little boys while pre-occupied with mom's?

3) you can talk to ghosts/spirits/the-dead?

 

[at4rxj]

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Lol... I came in here to say that I've never once had a problem with reliability or maintenance on my DI guns, but do not have a piston AR to compare it to. However, I'm not really sure what exactly this thread is about anymore.

 

[adam1122]

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Just a a quick note to clear some of the misinfo on this crappy thread up but military and LEO spend any time they have making sure their weapons are clean.

As part of leo and a response unit their are times when are gear has to be inspection time clean and then their is regular duty clean. Their is a difference between the two.

Make no mistake, we don't kick doors in with dirty ass weapons. We aren't going to loose a gunfight bc somebody didn't remember to clean a bcg, barrel or whatever sidearm they have.

End this damn thread.

 

[K_4c]

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I was being sarcastic... And no your 600 rd bump fire does not impress me.. I know the DI is capable of that and more.

I went to a few select schools and weapons maintenance never took a back seat in any of them.

 

[EricCartmann]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was being sarcastic... And no your 600 rd bump fire does not impress me.. I know the DI is capable of that and more.

I went to a few select schools and weapons maintenance never took a back seat in any of them. </div></div>

What more do you want a DI AR to do? Make a sandwich too?

How much can a Piston gun handle? 6000 rounds without issues?

 

[K_4c]

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Who could say... They both work. Pick your poison....

 

[EricCartmann]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who could say... They both work. Pick your poison.... </div></div>

My feelings exactly. But am I still a "Fucking Stupid" for preferring a DI AR?

 

[K_4c]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

I retract my statement....and I'm done with this debate.

 

[KillShot]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who could say... They both work. Pick your poison.... </div></div>

My feelings exactly. But am I still a "Fucking Stupid" for preferring a DI AR?</div></div>

You may not be "fucking stupid" but you're most definitely an idiot for persisting with keeping this debate/argument going and derailing it terribly but why should anyone expect anything less from an adult male with an obsession for a cartoon character? As I said, maybe not stupid...definitely an idiot.

Yet, again, you have proven that being 'smart' and being 'intelligent' are not one and the same. You could be a poster boy for abortion.

 

[EricCartmann]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I retract my statement....and I'm done with this debate. </div></div>

Why do you retract your statement? I mean if you really believe me to be an idiot because I prefer the DI, that is OK too. I though don't feel the same though if you prefer Piston though... but I do truly believe I have played around with a DI AR enough to know that a Piston AR has no advantages whatsoever over a DI-AR.

Also if you really want to go Piston, I believe the XCR to be a much better option than any Piston-AR.
1) XCR's are fairly priced
2) has side charging hand
3) True AK like action and not the Micky Mouse job of Piston-AR's
4) AR controls
5) monolithic upper with easy barrel change
6) 1 minute caliber conversion (7.62x39, 6.8, 300AAC, etc)
7) 5 setting adjustable gas block comes standard
8) Stock trigger is sweet, about on par with the Gissele SSA

All I want to know is am I "Fucking Stupid for preferring the XCR over any Piston-AR?"

 

[EricCartmann]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who could say... They both work. Pick your poison.... </div></div>

My feelings exactly. But am I still a "Fucking Stupid" for preferring a DI AR?</div></div>

You may not be "fucking stupid" but you're most definitely an idiot for persisting with keeping this debate/argument going and derailing it terribly but why should anyone expect anything less from an adult male with an obsession for a cartoon character? As I said, maybe not stupid...definitely an idiot.

Yet, again, you have proven that being 'smart' and being 'intelligent' are not one and the same. You could be a poster boy for abortion. </div></div>

Is this an argument to you? It's just a friendly discussion to me. Why is it exactly should I be aborted? Because I prefer a DI System?

Adults aren't allowed to like cartoon characters? Is this why I should be aborted?

Does the Cartmann doll bother you?

Please discuss.

 

[Jacklulu]

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Hi guys
wish i could say that i am sorry i started this thread, but i am not
I learned a TON OF information
AND I FOLLOWED trident1982'S ADVICE AND BOUGHT THE LMT AND BOTH BARRELS DI and PISTON
will run them side by side under same conditions and see for my self
thank you all
now lets move on!!!!!!!

already want a .308 LRPR
THESE HOBBIES GETS $$$$ QUICK
THANKS ALL
mtk-john

HOW BOUT THEM GIANTS
GO BIG BLUE
ALL BE HAPPY AND HEALTHY

 

[K_4c]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

...each his own...

 

[kimberseries1]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jakhamr81</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll be damned... Even the Marines picked a piston... a fully automatic squad based weapon system.

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I have no idea why they would do such a thing because <span style="font-style: italic">there is no benefit to having a gas piston AR</span>, at least that's what I recall reading somewhere.

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I'm still waiting for someone to prove to me just what it is that a piston gun can do that a a DI gun doesn't, or show me where a DI gun failed that a piston didn't.

And please don't think that because the government bought something it is the best. I have 15+ years of government service, including the Marine Corps and I will tell you that is not the case. </div></div>


Like not using the BAR in WWI because it was "too deadly", or choosing the 9mm round for sidearms.....and using BALL AMMO instead of HP's.....and I could go on for a while.....

 

[kimberseries1]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Straight from the Hide's news!

USMC Awards Infantry Automatic Rifle Contract to HK Heckler & Koch was awarded a competitive contract to produce the U.S. Marine Corps’ new Infantry Automatic Rifle (IAR).

link: http://www.snipershide.com/2012/02/usmc-selects-hk/ </div></div>


It's all just politics.......remember, the 92FS was so great they had to switch, and now some SPECOPS are going back to the 1911......

 

[K_4c]

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Should go to glocks...

 

[kimberseries1]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SteelShot11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">JFK!? Did someone just say that all piston guns have carrier tilt issues? Someone needs to do some research on the manufacturing process and parts used in the making of a quality piston gun - no, Im not saying piston is better than DI at all.

Also, the front end weight of a piston gun is negligble compared to a DI....there are 3 parts that way like 2-3 ounces. If you can't hold that up then whoever doesn't deserve to even be shooting the weapon. Hit the weight room first and then bitch about the added weight.

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2-3 ounces my aunt fannie!! try the weight of the Eotech 553 at least! Yea, the Barret is lighter, but the LWRC is NOT, and I'm guessin the POF and PWS are about the same weight as LWRC.

 

[KillShot]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kimberseries1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SteelShot11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">JFK!? Did someone just say that all piston guns have carrier tilt issues? Someone needs to do some research on the manufacturing process and parts used in the making of a quality piston gun - no, Im not saying piston is better than DI at all.

Also, the front end weight of a piston gun is negligble compared to a DI....there are 3 parts that way like 2-3 ounces. If you can't hold that up then whoever doesn't deserve to even be shooting the weapon. Hit the weight room first and then bitch about the added weight.

</div></div>


2-3 ounces my aunt fannie!! try the weight of the Eotech 553 at least! Yea, the Barret is lighter, but the LWRC is NOT, and <span style="font-weight: bold">I'm guessin the POF and PWS are about the same weight as LWRC.</span></div></div>

Actually, that is incorrect. Here are the weights.

LWRC REPR 20" - 11.25lbs
POF P308 20" - 9.24lbs
PWS MK216 16" - 8lbs 12oz.

Barrett doesn't make a 7.62 rifle.

 

[JSF]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

2-3 ounces my aunt fannie!! try the weight of the Eotech 553 at least! Yea, the Barret is lighter, but the LWRC is NOT, and I'm guessin the POF and PWS are about the same weight as LWRC. [/quote]

3.5 ounces for my POF.

 

[at4rxj]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... but why should anyone expect anything less from an adult male with an obsession for a cartoon character? </div></div>

Hey now...

 

[EricCartmann]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: at4rxj</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... but why should anyone expect anything less from an adult male with an obsession for a cartoon character? </div></div>

Hey now...

</div></div>

We just have to accept not everyone can be cool like Killshot or KC.

I do agree, a guy with an obsession for Cartoon characters has some serious issues... Here I caught him doing a re-enactment of the Alamo with his dolls!

 

[trident1982]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jacklulu</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi guys
wish i could say that i am sorry i started this thread, but i am not
I learned a TON OF information
AND I FOLLOWED trident1982'S ADVICE AND BOUGHT THE LMT AND BOTH BARRELS DI and PISTON
will run them side by side under same conditions and see for my self
thank you all
now lets move on!!!!!!!

already want a .308 LRPR
THESE HOBBIES GETS $$$$ QUICK
THANKS ALL
mtk-john

HOW BOUT THEM GIANTS
GO BIG BLUE
ALL BE HAPPY AND HEALTHY </div></div>

congrats pal, you'll love the MRP platform

If you can remember, shoot me a PM with your thoughts on the MRP D.I. vs. MRP Piston configurations once you run them both a little....I'd be very interested to hear about them.

 

[K_4c]

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I must be one of the cool kids you mentioned about....

Guess if you think so... Thanks. I still think your comment is fucking stupid...ha. Live with it.

 

[EricCartmann]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I must be one of the cool kids you mentioned about....

Guess if you think so... Thanks. I still think your comment is fucking stupid...ha. Live with it.
</div></div>

Finally the truth comes out. So it's fucking stupid to prefer DI-AR's over Piston-AR's right? This is most definitely true???

 

[K_4c]

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Nope... Just what you said. Now go line up your cartoon dolls and be on your homo erotic journey.

I tried countless times to restate myself and explain where I was coming from... you just kept on writting me off and put your little snide comments to get me spun up... and since this thread is no longer about what it was initially started for I'm coming clean and telling you to fuck off and go suck start that DI AR when it runs low on lube.

Later buddy.

 

[tylerw02]

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One thing I'd like to point out for all you "its just a few ounces" guys:

Swing weight is what matters. Where the weight is on an AR that you're running as a fighting gun matters quite a bit. If you don't think it does, then you've not really run them enough to know a difference and it will probably never make a difference to you anyway, which basically trumps your need to worry about an "improved" operating system anyway.

Its not the overall weight, its where the weight is when you're driving a carbine. For this reason I've come to love my 14.5" LW middy.

 

[EricCartmann]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nope... Just what you said. Now go line up your cartoon dolls and be on your homo erotic journey.

I tried countless times to restate myself and explain where I was coming from... you just kept on writting me off and put your little snide comments to get me spun up... and since this thread is no longer about what it was initially started for I'm coming clean and telling you to fuck off and go suck start that DI AR when it runs low on lube.

Later buddy. </div></div>

Please don't be mad!

I just like to play along when someone calls me "Fucking Stupid" for preferring one system over another, or when I prefer one color over another.

I think if maybe you would have apologized I would not played along? Then again, maybe I still would play along even after an apology

 

[at4rxj]

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Dear Coon:

I apologize.

-General Chaos

 

[ramseyzoo]

Re: Piston vs Gas for an AR???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jacklulu</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wow
sorry to have gotten in to one of these not a cut and dry answer
Both sides will just have to:
AGREE TO DISAGREE
i have went with the LMT in piston
it just speaks to me from the Rack and says
TAKE ME HOME!!!!!!
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP AND INPUT
i HAVE SO MUCH TO LEARN!!!
BTW my safe would be much less clustered if i followed the rule:
i should not spend the extra $$$$$
some how i feel stupid missing all those clays with a nice O/U
thanks john </div></div>



hey man, how do you like your rifle?