Freezer, cooler, heat gun/torch, and a master thermometer.
Get 3 readinngs/velocities about 30deg apart.
Put it in the temp table.
Poll at what distance can you honestly make a first round shot and be within a tenth of a mil?
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Freezer, cooler, heat gun/torch, and a master thermometer.
Get 3 readinngs/velocities about 30deg apart.
Put it in the temp table.
there is a muzzle velocity temp...i just turned it on and set it ill true it up tomorrow and see if it adjusted as the temp changes.
I think he is saying get real world data by replicating what you are likely to encounter in your AO.
Me living in the NE - 30' low, 60' median, 90' high MV numbers would cover most conditions. If anything Id see more temps lower than 30.
got it thanks! im about the same here...25ish 65ish 95ish should work...im going to do this tomorrow when i shoot ive got everything to make it happen...thanks.
Ya. If you see a larger swing in temps, do more.
But 3 is the recommended amount for an MV temp table.
But 3 is the recommended amount for an MV temp table.
Looking back through, I agree so let’s pull wind out. To answer post #15, then I’ll stick with my survey answer of 800yds just because that’s all I have confirmed DOPE for across the most DAs I’d face.
I would also repeat the common theme that is mentioned when discussing software...it’s only as good as the shooter’s input. So the results might be skewed, be it in favor or against, due to shooter input errors.
Its awesome to me the lengths people will go to to get the best possible starting point.
I'm sure the effort pays off and for competitors/professionals its required.
I am so inadequate being a fudd.
I salute you!
OH im no rocket scientist thats for sure im about as technically challanged as they come LOL!!
MV- temp table.
I have a similar function on ballistic AE and it’s really helpful in getting my 7 saum data lined up as R26 is definitely a bit more sensitive than the R16 in my 260.
Don't thank me.
I'm in over my head.
This stuff is interesting.
Someday Id like to understand it all.
For now I just take my best guess and let it fly.
Man I guess I am not as good as setting up my equipment as you guys. I can't say I can consistently get first round hits out to 1000+ yds and be with in .10 mil I am usually within .30 mils at 1000yds and then I adjust according. I am pretty much just a prone shooter banging steel out to 1000+ yds. I don't shoot PRS matches mainly because there aren't that many that aren't a few hours drive, maybe I will one day. I wasn't looking to get my opinion validated just wanted to see what other guys do. For me with what I do I am ok with being a click or two off and adjusting.......Thanks for all the info!
If you’re +/- 0.1 you’re doing fine, even .3 isn’t uncommon depending on range and lighting conditions...ive seen a .4 shift from one evening to the next at a range because of a certain condition
if you’d shoot 1 location only those chances will decrease quite a bit, but anyone shooting at different locations and telling you they’re always within .1, is Lying or haven’t shot enough to know any better...go to any match with an open range day on Friday, and look at everyone sending rounds and adjusting data...it’s not a perfect science in any way, but it’s usually pretty close
even muzzle velocity day to day can/will shift depending on how the shooter manages his bore conditions
getting it within .1 each trip by tweaking it each time out for that day, no biggie...keeping it .1 each time out from previous times isn’t always happening
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I mean, a tenth is a tenth no matter the range. The better question is at what target size does it become that important.
Loaded question. On high wind or the sun in certain positions, a tenth matters on an ipsc.
Absolutely true. A .10 mil wobble zone at 100 yards is still a .10 wobble zone at ten thousand yards. There is a difference between accuracy and precision. Enough said about that. As far as my ballistics calculator/dope being within .10 mil of point of impact, I am not a good enough shooter to give you an answer to that question.
Sure at 1000, but definitely not at 100. It all depends on target size and range assuming conditions aren't too harsh. That's what I was getting at.
Only plate pic I have on this device. Shot by a client in the early morning after
training and truing the previous day. My wind call was a bit off, sorry....
Solution provided by AB on a Garmin 701.
training and truing the previous day. My wind call was a bit off, sorry....
Solution provided by AB on a Garmin 701.
600y /550m. I have no real problem at 1k+, but I can't claim to call 0.1mil wind. have had first round at a mile and such, but every idiot can have luck sometimes.
PRS Australia is usually 500m, and can get those consistently on demand, so my vote is for that.
PRS Australia is usually 500m, and can get those consistently on demand, so my vote is for that.
Velocity spreads start showing their heads past about 400yd. I'm a firm believer in 10-20 shot strings on paper or fresh steel for setting up software or getting zero anyway. Imagine what a 20 shot group would look like, then ask yourself it the 1, 2, 3, 5 shots you took are representative of the CoM of what the bigger group would be...
I usually set zero angle in 4DOF at 400-600yd, then true the axial form factor on big steel at 1000-1200 in good conditions.
I usually set zero angle in 4DOF at 400-600yd, then true the axial form factor on big steel at 1000-1200 in good conditions.
If conditions are perfect, then I can do 1000 without an issue. But throw in my kryptonite (wind LOL) then I'll say 700.
According to my shooting this past weekend it apparently takes me more than one shot to find a tenth mil.........
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