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Can you quote where I said only non vaccinated people were catching Covid? If you can’t, perhaps you might want to run back through my one post. I’ve followed this thread religiously from the get go and have read the posts and attached articles you mentioned.

What I said was the line at my hospital was unvaccinated patients made up the majority of admitted and critically ill patients. The official quote was something like “99 patients admitted, 98 unvaccinated.” We don’t admit positives who are asymptomatic or mildly ill.

Is it possible those numbers were manipulated? Sure. We have more than our share of vaccine zealots and crusaders, but I just don’t see in toto a cabal of doctors, nurses, and administrators fabricating that trend. Nurses don’t get paid to lie about somebody’s vaccine status. Many many nurses at my hospital vehemently oppose a vaccine mandate. Why would they perpetuate a lie like that?

I believe the gist of what old dude said was the vaccine provided some degree of protection against severe disease. I’ll defend nothing he said other than that. He asked and I’ll ask you for any data that says vaccinated people are more likely to die from Covid than unvaxxed. I’ve looked for it and can’t find it. Unless the whole antibody dependent enhancement thing is real for this vaccine, you’re not likely to see higher “Covid deaths” in the vaxxed. That doesn’t mean it isn’t harmful. If you died from a vaccine induced stroke instead of Covid, you’re still dead. In my mind, that’s worse than a non effective but non harmful vaccine.

I wrote a critical care doctor here up for the vile stuff he was posting about unvaccinated people. He and a cardiologist at my hospital should be fired IMO. They’ve got no business taking care of people, period. I am not a fed and I’m no vaccine advocate.

As far as intubating patients, that was our protocol early on in the OR for any aerosolizing procedure. I can’t speak for the ICU. We did do it for provider safety, but you have to realize, early on, a known exposure to Covid was a 14 day quarantine. Any upper respiratory symptoms were a 14 day quarantine. They were touting a 10% mortality figure at the time. If your entire medical staff is out on quarantine, you can’t run a hospital, and who cares for the patients then? There was, at the time, no data indicating that intubation was harmful. But even if so, at least for a procedure that blows virus all over the place (think upper GI scope), would you really not considering the safety of the people in the room? It’s not that simple.
I can quote where he said it, and you said you didn't know who was lying, and said that both were probably telling the truth.

Funny they managed to run hospitals during a fucking Ebola epidemic, but we couldn't do it here vs a bad cold, without sedating and putting people on ventilators even though we knew it would likely kill them, and we knew it wasn't helpful. Just like we all know early treatment is better. But doctors went right along with that too.

April 10, 2020


Remdesvir has a terrible track record in both treatment and side effects. The only reason it was approved for emergency use, is because they said there were no other treatments. They literally made fraudulent studies and articles about HQ and ivermectin.

Why does it always seem the doctors who have time to post, are always way behind the curve?

You knowingly subjected patients to treatment you knew was harmful to avoid quarantine. You knew the retarded policies would shut down the hospitals, and instead of fighting them, you intubated people even though you knew it was not safe for them. That is some sick shit right there. Rationalizing doesn't make it better.
 
You assume I'm a lefty, because I don't blindly agree with what's posted here. I'm called a lefty, faggot, and any other insult you can hurl at me. The truth is I don't blindly believe anything that's fed to me, unlike some here. Just randomly exploring some of the supposed 'news' and 'documentation' posted here, not only have there been misrepresentations of data published, but I've found more than than a few complete fabrications. My fav is the story about racism from the news site that doesn't actually exist, closely followed by the digital drivers license blurb. This would be the one that everyone went apeshit over because it included vaccine status, despite the back end systems not existing to link all of that info. Couldn't do it if they wanted. In any case, no one seemed worried about the app supposedly including your social credit score. Spoiler, you don't have one, but they're used in China to track how well people obey the State.

Anyway, I'm guessing you wanted me to beat that unbelievable list of Democratic elected officials who'd done harm to women or children. The list that included Harvey Weinstein. What district did he represent again? See below for parts 1-4 of Republican slime balls. There are 16 total parts, btw.
  1. Donald Trump is accused of sexual assault by multiple women. His wife said he raped her before she decided to describe it differently He is accused of raping a 13-year-old girl and walking in on teens in the Miss Teen USA pageant. He bragged of walking in on naked women at pageants and of course, of grabbing women “by the pussy.”
  2. Judge Roy Moore is accused of sexual assault and dating underage women.
  3. Rep Jim Jordan is seeking to step into Speaker Ryan’s shoes even though he is accused of ignoring sexual assault of young men while a coach, dismissing it as locker room talk
  4. Former Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert convicted of sex abuse
  5. Former Cobb County COP Chairman Joseph Russell Dendy - child molesting
  6. So-called "pro-life"/ antigay activist Howard Scott Heldreth was convicted of raping a child
  7. GOP Richland County Commissioner David F. Swartz convicted of sexually abusing a girl from age 6 upwards - released after only 8 years!!!!
  8. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to molesting his 10-year-old daughter.
  9. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
  10. Republican Speaker of the House in Puerto Rico Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
  11. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
  12. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
  13. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child. She was underage. It was rape.
  14. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
  15. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
  16. Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail. ONE MONTH!!!!!
  17. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
  18. Republican of the Year Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. Keep reading, it’s half-way down the page.
  19. Republican state senator Ralph Shortey from Oklahoma admitted to being involved in sodomy with a 17 year old male prostitute and transporting child pornography. He was sentenced to 15 years.
  20. Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
  21. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a page. To be fair, Dem Congressman was Gerry Studds was also caught for the same thing. The Congressional Page scandal.
  22. Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
  23. GOP Congressman Jim Kolbe - suspected of being too “close” to underage pages.
  24. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his stepdaughter.
  25. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist *Robert Bauman** was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

I assume you're a lefty because you hate Trump, who was the most conservative president since Reagan.
Also because you didn’t know about the vast number of dem politicians convicted of child sex crimes, convictions are far different than accusations.
If Trump is such an evil, lecherous man, why did Hillary's campaign have to invent Russian collusion?
The full power of the FBI couldn't find anything to legitimately charge him with, so they ran with the hoax.
 
As your co-workers step dad got "sicker and sicker" what did you as a member of the medical community do to reverse that trajectory?

Nothing, Because you followed your directives and by the time anyone did anything he was so weak or far gone and the inevitable was an isolated death with a bunch of people looking over him like vultures thinking how this would generate some serious hospital income.

How about prehospitalization therapy?
You sir are buffoon. You know absolutely zero about me and are no different than these demons calling for denying care to the unvaccinated. It’s all about your feelings and your assumptions and you’ll not tolerate anybody so much as asking a question. Same coin, different side.

So I know about and am involved in the care of every patient with coronavirus on the face of the earth, right? Idiot. I didn’t know a thing about this guy until two days before he died, in another state by the way. But, you’ve got your own little picture in your head of what I do, what I think, and what my motivations are. Again, idiot. Would I even be a person who would treat somebody on a prehospital basis, cause you’d know who that is and that I am one, right? Do you suppose my buddy, this guy’s step-son, a physician, stood by and watched him die so a hospital could get paid a few extra dollars? Maybe he lied to me about what killed his moms husband just to further the whole Covid narrative, you reckon? It sounds stupid because it is stupid. Ridiculous. Maybe next time I’m in need of an Oracle I’ll shoot you a PM.

How do you know what I believe? How do you know I’m not right in line with the way you think on almost everything? You don’t cause you never asked. I am ANYTHING but what you have me pegged as.

I hate to derail the thread but that just pisses me off.
 
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I had a coworkers step-dad die with it. @cast1

WITH it, or FROM it? Words mean things. I saw a multiple fatality car wreck where several people died 'with' COVID.

Look at the stats. The CDC admitted at least once during this BS that only 6% of their COVID deaths were 'from' COVID. The other 94% were 'with' COVID.

This seems to be lost on most folks.

And "with" isn't just some random application, it was strategically concocted.

I'm guessing the person who thought it up got a bonus tbh.
 
Okay fun is over, get your shot or not. Take ivermectin or whatever. But dont be a sucker to partial truths free flowing on the internet. It's ( note the apostrophe ) your choice as long as you are not employed and will have probs paying your trailer space rent once fired.

So much "feels" flowing through this post...
 
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I heard a story from a friend that their BIL's Father had pancreatic cancer. He was in the late stages when he went to the hospital. When he got there he ended up catching COVID there. He died from the cancer. However, they were told that if they put down he died from COVID they would not have to pay the $40,000 hospital bill as the .gov would cover COVID cases. So, they went that route since they didn't have the money to pay the bill.

Does not surprise me at all
 
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I assume you're a lefty because you hate Trump, who was the most conservative president since Reagan. People way more conservative than myself hate Trump and that's all I'll say about that topic.
Also because you didn’t know about the vast number of dem politicians convicted of child sex crimes, convictions are far different than accusations. Not relevant in the least.
If Trump is such an evil, lecherous man, why did Hillary's campaign have to invent Russian collusion?
The full power of the FBI couldn't find anything to legitimately charge him with, so they ran with the hoax. Mueller very specifically said there was insufficient evidence to exonerate Trump. The AG and Congress chose to not pursue it because of course they didn't. Wouldn't look good for the GOP.
 
🤣 🤣 🤣

Never saw this coming -- nope.

But rather than propagate a legal agricultural sector that grows the state’s economy as intended, the industry has taken a dark turn in Southern Oregon. Today, it is cultivating an ecosystem of international organized crime, human trafficking, and environmental degradation.
Yep once it was legal here they jumped the border and started growing opium poppies in the old marijuana fields back in Mexico. State lines are a little easier to cross than the national border.

Started increasing opium production in the unused marijuana fields. More recently fentanyl “labs” With precursors, and chemist coming from China to teach them.
 
i might be completely wrong, but i don't remember seeing california catching a bunch of them at once...i wonder if they are even trying.
 
@The38Super
People way more conservative than myself hate Trump and that's all I'll say about that topic.

A quasi-admission you're not a conservative?
Excellent!
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Not relevant in the least.

It is when you essentially claimed it was a right wing conspiracy.

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Mueller very specifically said there was insufficient evidence to exonerate Trump. The AG and Congress chose to not pursue it because of course they didn't. Wouldn't look good for the GOP.

More evidence you're a lefty, not knowing simple civics.
People are assumed innocent until proven guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt.

The real question is why leftys are so averse to admitting they're leftys?
Is it some tiny, battered sense of decency that prevents them from admitting reality?
Much like a junkie saying he can still quit anytime, and it means nothing he just sucked off two guys to fill his spoon.
 
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You assume I'm a lefty, because I don't blindly agree with what's posted here. I'm called a lefty, faggot, and any other insult you can hurl at me. The truth is I don't blindly believe anything that's fed to me, unlike some here. Just randomly exploring some of the supposed 'news' and 'documentation' posted here, not only have there been misrepresentations of data published, but I've found more than than a few complete fabrications. My fav is the story about racism from the news site that doesn't actually exist, closely followed by the digital drivers license blurb. This would be the one that everyone went apeshit over because it included vaccine status, despite the back end systems not existing to link all of that info. Couldn't do it if they wanted. In any case, no one seemed worried about the app supposedly including your social credit score. Spoiler, you don't have one, but they're used in China to track how well people obey the State.

Anyway, I'm guessing you wanted me to beat that unbelievable list of Democratic elected officials who'd done harm to women or children. The list that included Harvey Weinstein. What district did he represent again? See below for parts 1-4 of Republican slime balls. There are 16 total parts, btw.
  1. Donald Trump is accused of sexual assault by multiple women. His wife said he raped her before she decided to describe it differently He is accused of raping a 13-year-old girl and walking in on teens in the Miss Teen USA pageant. He bragged of walking in on naked women at pageants and of course, of grabbing women “by the pussy.”
  2. Judge Roy Moore is accused of sexual assault and dating underage women.
  3. Rep Jim Jordan is seeking to step into Speaker Ryan’s shoes even though he is accused of ignoring sexual assault of young men while a coach, dismissing it as locker room talk
  4. Former Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert convicted of sex abuse
  5. Former Cobb County COP Chairman Joseph Russell Dendy - child molesting
  6. So-called "pro-life"/ antigay activist Howard Scott Heldreth was convicted of raping a child
  7. GOP Richland County Commissioner David F. Swartz convicted of sexually abusing a girl from age 6 upwards - released after only 8 years!!!!
  8. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to molesting his 10-year-old daughter.
  9. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
  10. Republican Speaker of the House in Puerto Rico Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
  11. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
  12. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
  13. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child. She was underage. It was rape.
  14. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
  15. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
  16. Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail. ONE MONTH!!!!!
  17. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
  18. Republican of the Year Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. Keep reading, it’s half-way down the page.
  19. Republican state senator Ralph Shortey from Oklahoma admitted to being involved in sodomy with a 17 year old male prostitute and transporting child pornography. He was sentenced to 15 years.
  20. Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
  21. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a page. To be fair, Dem Congressman was Gerry Studds was also caught for the same thing. The Congressional Page scandal.
  22. Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
  23. GOP Congressman Jim Kolbe - suspected of being too “close” to underage pages.
  24. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his stepdaughter.
  25. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist *Robert Bauman** was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Oh yeah? Commander in Chief Joe Biden hair sniffin' baby fuckin' faggot cocksucker you voted for and jack off to when you are alone in the stall at a Texas Roadhouse.
 
You assume I'm a lefty, because I don't blindly agree with what's posted here. I'm called a lefty, faggot, and any other insult you can hurl at me. The truth is I don't blindly believe anything that's fed to me, unlike some here. Just randomly exploring some of the supposed 'news' and 'documentation' posted here, not only have there been misrepresentations of data published, but I've found more than than a few complete fabrications. My fav is the story about racism from the news site that doesn't actually exist, closely followed by the digital drivers license blurb. This would be the one that everyone went apeshit over because it included vaccine status, despite the back end systems not existing to link all of that info. Couldn't do it if they wanted. In any case, no one seemed worried about the app supposedly including your social credit score. Spoiler, you don't have one, but they're used in China to track how well people obey the State.

Anyway, I'm guessing you wanted me to beat that unbelievable list of Democratic elected officials who'd done harm to women or children. The list that included Harvey Weinstein. What district did he represent again? See below for parts 1-4 of Republican slime balls. There are 16 total parts, btw.
  1. Donald Trump is accused of sexual assault by multiple women. His wife said he raped her before she decided to describe it differently He is accused of raping a 13-year-old girl and walking in on teens in the Miss Teen USA pageant. He bragged of walking in on naked women at pageants and of course, of grabbing women “by the pussy.”
  2. Judge Roy Moore is accused of sexual assault and dating underage women.
  3. Rep Jim Jordan is seeking to step into Speaker Ryan’s shoes even though he is accused of ignoring sexual assault of young men while a coach, dismissing it as locker room talk
  4. Former Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert convicted of sex abuse
  5. Former Cobb County COP Chairman Joseph Russell Dendy - child molesting
  6. So-called "pro-life"/ antigay activist Howard Scott Heldreth was convicted of raping a child
  7. GOP Richland County Commissioner David F. Swartz convicted of sexually abusing a girl from age 6 upwards - released after only 8 years!!!!
  8. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to molesting his 10-year-old daughter.
  9. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
  10. Republican Speaker of the House in Puerto Rico Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
  11. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
  12. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
  13. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child. She was underage. It was rape.
  14. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
  15. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
  16. Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail. ONE MONTH!!!!!
  17. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
  18. Republican of the Year Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. Keep reading, it’s half-way down the page.
  19. Republican state senator Ralph Shortey from Oklahoma admitted to being involved in sodomy with a 17 year old male prostitute and transporting child pornography. He was sentenced to 15 years.
  20. Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
  21. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a page. To be fair, Dem Congressman was Gerry Studds was also caught for the same thing. The Congressional Page scandal.
  22. Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
  23. GOP Congressman Jim Kolbe - suspected of being too “close” to underage pages.
  24. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his stepdaughter.
  25. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist *Robert Bauman** was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Andrew Jackson, founder of the Democrat Party, in his thirst for Manifest Destiny, ignored the Supreme Court of the United States and rounded up and forced marched in winter, Native American Peoples of Five Nations into the Oklahoma Territory. It is called the "The Trail of Tears", go FUCK YOURSELF. Don't get me started on the 200 million souls murdered by Marxists. Now on IGNORE TROLL.
 
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Oh yeah? Commander in Chief Joe Biden hair sniffin' baby fuckin' faggot cocksucker you voted for and jack off to when you are alone in the stall at a Texas Roadhouse.
Like I'd set foot in that place.... BTW, I don't think much of Biden. But fuck you just the same, also your intolerance toward opposing viewpoints you can't defend against.
 
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Back before this appropriately named thread, guys like @theLBC and many more of you, kept the light on the cockroaches with the election thread. For the most part it was good info with some banter about the finer details. As this virus shit grew it has consumed alot of our time with talk of cons and pros(mostly cons IMHO). I tried to make this point a day or so ago but it was lost in the growing cesspool of constant bickering about who's right...or righteous. Instead of well researched non mainstream news we wouldn't get on our own without hours of looking....we have this. Arguing about bullshit while the monster grows bigger and stronger. Our ranks are full of paid .gov's, true believers and just garden variety morons. Stirring the pot, gathering Intel and laughing at us while we bicker. We won't solve a thing here. Sure it's nice to vent to like minded folks....but are we? I'm guessing some of you know each other due to your service and shooting(ain't that what brought us here?) and that's great...but most here are like me, just a screen name and words...and titty pics...lol. ......so....the point right??
Let's get this back on track.....ignore is your best tool. If they don't get fed they wither until someone feeds them.

Holidays are coming....gather your family, protect the old folks, spoil the youngsters(and teach them a skill).
The only way this shit ruins us is if we let it.
Train, plan, prepare......and live!! The rest is bullshit.
 
Andrew Jackson, founder of the Democrat Party, in his thirst for Manifest Destiny, ignored the Supreme Court of the United States and rounded up and forced marched in winter, Native American Peoples of Five Nations into the Oklahoma Territory. It is called the "The Trail of Tears", go FUCK YOURSELF. Now on IGNORE.
And wombats shit in cubes...your point?
 
Andrew Jackson, founder of the Democrat Party, in his thirst for Manifest Destiny, ignored the Supreme Court of the United States and rounded up and forced marched in winter, Native American Peoples of Five Nations into the Oklahoma Territory. It is called the "The Trail of Tears", go FUCK YOURSELF. Now on IGNORE.

There's been a 9 year period in our country's history, 1964-1973, when democrats weren't saying a portion of the population didn't really count as people, and therefore legal to kill them.
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@The38Super
People way more conservative than myself hate Trump and that's all I'll say about that topic.

A quasi-admission you're not a conservative?
Excellent!
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Not relevant in the least.

It is when you essentially claimed it was a right wing conspiracy.

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Mueller very specifically said there was insufficient evidence to exonerate Trump. The AG and Congress chose to not pursue it because of course they didn't. Wouldn't look good for the GOP.

More evidence you're a lefty, not knowing simple civics.
People are assumed innocent until proven guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt.

The real question is why leftys are so averse to admitting they're leftys?
Is it some tiny, battered sense of decency that prevents them from admitting reality?
Much like a junkie saying he can still quit anytime, and it means nothing he just sucked off two guys to fill his spoon.
Know a lot about sucking guys off, do you?
 
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