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Have you studied history?

Unless you are a full blooded Native American, everybody in this country is either an immigrant or is descended from someone who immigrated over here.
And fairly recently by global history standards.

Even if you are one of the snooty ones that can put mf after your name, you are still the descendant of recent immigrants (by global history standards).

Our last President was the Grandson of an immigrant and the last first lady was an immigrant herself.

Perhaps in your school they never taught about all the various waves of immigration from various ethnic areas that helped shape the character of the country we know today.
More history than you know, fucktard! Crawl back in your hole.
 
We have a “democracy” just like we were “founded on immigration “. Both are lies! And both are about control.
 
Have you studied history?

Unless you are a full blooded Native American, everybody in this country is either an immigrant or is descended from someone who immigrated over here.
And fairly recently by global history standards.

Even if you are one of the snooty ones that can put mf after your name, you are still the descendant of recent immigrants (by global history standards).

Our last President was the Grandson of an immigrant and the last first lady was an immigrant herself.

Perhaps in your school they never taught about all the various waves of immigration from various ethnic areas that helped shape the character of the country we know today.
What a potential crock of shit!
Go back past written history.
Who's to say that the peoples of the world were not equally dispersed throughout this globe.
Get your nose out of a textbook.
 
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I was under the assumption, that a "Dirty Bomb", was somewhat worse, in a different way, than a standard yield bomb. When I was tasked in the Mil. for D.P.(during my Cold War years), dirty bombs weren't a thing. So, a dirty bomb is like getting nuked from a cell tower, just with fall-out? How about half-life of it's radiation? Mac
They aren't worse, they're easier to pull off. An actual nuke would have to come from a state player which limits who we need to retaliate. A "dirty" bomb can be waste. Could come from a non nuclear state or a terrorist group. A bit harder to pinpoint who we need to turn into a glass parking lot.
 
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What a potential crock of shit!
Go back past written history.
Who's to say that the peoples of the world were not equally dispersed throughout this globe.
Get your nose out of a textbook.

Somebody is off their meds.
Your statement is pretty much on par with the whole flat earth theory.
 
Have you studied history?

Unless you are a full blooded Native American, everybody in this country is either an immigrant or is descended from someone who immigrated over here.
And fairly recently by global history standards.

Even if you are one of the snooty ones that can put mf after your name, you are still the descendant of recent immigrants (by global history standards).

Our last President was the Grandson of an immigrant and the last first lady was an immigrant herself.

Perhaps in your school they never taught about all the various waves of immigration from various ethnic areas that helped shape the character of the country we know today.
It boils down to loyalty. One cannot serve two masters.
 
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They aren't worse, they're easier to pull off. An actual nuke would have to come from a state player which limits who we need to retaliate. A "dirty" bomb can be waste. Could come from a non nuclear state or a terrorist group. A bit harder to pinpoint who we need to turn into a glass parking lot.
I don't know.
The ingenuity of man has no bounds.
Maybe right now as we speak someone is sitting in some undisclosed location building his own personal nuclear tipped ballistic missile.
 
30 miles from my house a cache of 70 sage brush sandals were found that were radiocarbon dated to 12,000 years ago
Where are these people now?

I'm assuming if it's a legit find, somebody has started up a scientific paper on it.
I'd need to read the whole story and the findings of experts who studied it, before I could chance to make any informed guess about the matter.
 
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I don't know.
The ingenuity of man has no bounds.
Maybe right now as we speak someone is sitting in some undisclosed location building his own personal nuclear tipped ballistic missile.
Read "The Radioactive Boyscout". A kid built a breeder reactor in his back yard in the mid 90's. Interesting but nowhere close to an actual Nuclear weapon. Dirty is very localized. It's a regular explosion with a radioactive element. A nuke is a star being born in your city. Both very bad, but totally different.
 
Thank God times never change and backyard technology never progresses.
Would actually have been easier 60 years ago if you knew how. The necessary materials are very tightly controlled and tracked the entire world over now. It's not that rogue states can't figure it out, it's that even as a government they can't get the materials.
 
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The necessary materials are controlled by who?
Are the potentiality of the materials controlled by a single independent man/nation?
Or controlled by alienable human ingenuity?
Oh, they aren't controlled by good people... They're controlled by our government, the U.N., NATO, Hillary.... basically the nation's that are already in the nuclear weapons club. If you're a member you're good but they aren't accepting new members.. unless of course you can give their useless son a job on a board of directors for a gas company or some such...
 

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You're being obtuse. It's a figure of speech. You can pledge allegiance to only one. When it gets to the nut cuttin' you'll fight, or die for one and only one.

It only gets to be a problem if groups of peoples that you are a part of happen to be directly fighting, which is not that common these days.

If that happens, generally speaking, give it a bit of time and once the Global Elites, the bankers, the politicians and the Arms Dealers have all had their fun and the money runs out, or one side gets the stuffing beaten out of them and has to fold, chances are things will go back to being at peace and the propaganda will flip from drumming up hatred to saying that it's wrong to be hating others because of their national origin. (Exactly the history of wars and peace in our good old USA).

So in the mean time you'd have to pick to either stay out of it (which may or may not be possible), or fight for the side you believe is right, to help liberate the other group from their evil & oppressive leaders.

Wars are for the most part about rulers and elites fighting other rulers and elites and the common folk are the ones who get ground into the dirt and die for the vanity and profit of the rulers and elites.
 
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Oh, they aren't controlled by good people... They're controlled by our government, the U.N., NATO, Hillary.... basically the nation's that are already in the nuclear weapons club. If you're a member you're good but they aren't accepting new members.. unless of course you can give their useless son a job on a board of directors for a gas company or some such...
You win you've beat me down with ignorance.
 
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It only gets to be a problem if groups of peoples that you are a part of happen to be directly fighting, which is not that common these days.

If that happens, generally speaking, give it a bit of time and once the Global Elites, the bankers, the politicians and the Arms Dealers have all had their fun and the money runs out, or one side gets the stuffing beaten out of them and has to fold, chances are things will go back to being at peace and the propaganda will flip from drumming up hatred to saying that it's wrong to be hating others because of their national origin. (Exactly the history of wars and peace in our good old USA).

So in the mean time you'd have to pick to either stay out of it (which may or may not be possible), or fight for the side you believe is right, to help liberate the other group from their evil & oppressive leaders.

Wars are for the most part about rulers and elites fighting other rulers and elites and the common folk are the ones who get ground into the dirt and die for the vanity and profit of the rulers and elites.
I'm just referring to allegiance to one country, or another, particularly when serving as an elected official, helping to make domestic and foreign policy, as Mehmet Oz wants to do. He should make a choice, in my opinion. There should not be any question of where his loyalty lies. He should be all in, 100%, or not at all. He cannot be loyal, but to one.
 
I'm just referring to allegiance to one country, or another, particularly when serving as an elected official, helping to make domestic and foreign policy, as Mehmet Oz wants to do. He should make a choice, in my opinion. There should not be any question of where his loyalty lies. He should be all in, 100%, or not at all. He cannot be loyal, but to one.

The constitution doesn't say he has to only have one citizenship, so he is free to do as he wishes, and you are free to disagree with his choice. The voters in his state didn't seem to think that was a big problem for them. If they did, they are welcome to vote for someone else.
 
Ok, now you are ass-uming elections matter and people choose their “leaders” to represent them because, you know, constitution.

That's a whole different thread...
People that understand that "Vote Red" vs. "Vote Blue" is still voting for the same stooges of the global elites, probably understand that only being a citizen of one country makes a politician no more loyal to that country's interests than one that happens to have more than one citizenship.
 
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The constitution doesn't say he has to only have one citizenship, so he is free to do as he wishes, and you are free to disagree with his choice. The voters in his state didn't seem to think that was a big problem for them. If they did, they are welcome to vote for someone else.
You are correct. I disagree and believe that all elected officials should be 100% American, no multi-citizenship.
 
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Yeah they came from Asia. So maybe you haven't studied history too much.
I'm well aware of where they are said to have come from, however in their case, they came over possibly up to 10,000 years ago depending on which experts you read, so that's a bit different from a bunch of pale faces and Asians and Africans that started pouring in 300 or so years ago, with most arriving in 200 or less years ago, who then proceeded to turn the local population into a persecuted minority.
 
I'm well aware of where they are said to have come from
Said to have come from huh
Where do you think they came from, spaceship?
They also persecuted and committed genocide against each other.
We got here and were better at it. I'm failing to see why I should feel guilty about it. To the victor go the spoils.
You're obviously the participation trophy type. Thank you for participating in this thread, your trophy's in the mail.
 
I'm well aware of where they are said to have come from, however in their case, they came over possibly up to 10,000 years ago depending on which experts you read, so that's a bit different from a bunch of pale faces and Asians and Africans that started pouring in 300 or so years ago, with most arriving in 200 or less years ago, who then proceeded to turn the local population into a persecuted minority.
The original question was about this country being founded on immigration. This is bs. The people that founded this country were natives, i.e. they were all born here (but were “subjects” of the Crown). Immigration was allowed under controlled conditions. No where is it the basis of establishment of this country. Section 1 of the 14th Amendment was meant to insure that freed slaves were recognized as citizens but was never meant to allow illegal immigrants to come here and have babies which are then “citizens” of the United States and therefore eligible for a welfare check sent back to China, Mexico or wherever they came from. And as for “native Americans”, Europeans were here 20,000 years ago, long before they were. But you probably don’t know about that.
 
We got here and were better at it.
who is this "we" you refer to? I didnt do anything....to any body. i did not have anything to do with slavery, i didnt have anything to do with genocide on the natives. i was born well after the people that did that shit.

i strongly suspect YOU didnt do any of that, either.
 
who is this "we" you refer to? I didnt do anything....to any body. i did not have anything to do with slavery, i didnt have anything to do with genocide on the natives. i was born well after the people that did that shit.

i strongly suspect YOU didnt do any of that, either.
Yeah but, I feel guilty because I have the same color skin.
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Said to have come from huh
Where do you think they came from, spaceship?
They also persecuted and committed genocide against each other.
We got here and were better at it. I'm failing to see why I should feel guilty about it. To the victor go the spoils.
You're obviously the participation trophy type. Thank you for participating in this thread, your trophy's in the mail.

You are going off on a tangent completely unrelated to the issue.
At no point was anyone discussing any "guilt".

"Said to have come from" is an accurate way of stating assumed migrations patterns of peoples 10,000+ years ago as there is not much in the way of actual records so most is from archaeological and genetic research. There are different competing theories as to the exact migration patterns and time tables.
 
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