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Yeah, except nowhere in this thread did I do that. I actually did the exact opposite, I thanked everyone for the advice, and deferred nearly everywhere. Could you please quote me, wherever I either argued with someone or told them they were wrong.An empty center-fire case with a primer is just as loud as a 22.
If you noticed, there's plenty of people telling you small rimfire is the quietest option.
You want to tell everyone they're wrong and you know better. If you knew you wouldn't have asked. So why not sit and do some reflecting on why you're arguing with everyone who responded to your question?
I think most 22lr would not be good, beyond 50 yards for humane kills on fox and raccoon. For any humane kill on those animals, at 150 yards, you'll need a suppressed centerfire. 22 mag may do it, but they're loud as heck. You may want to look at big bore air rifles.
That's a good idea actually. What is your zero distance and how much bullet drop if you misjudged distance?I've got a Rossi lever action in .38spl/.357 mag, that I load .38spl up to just under super sonic out of a 16 inch barrel, quieter than a .22 LR, but hits much harder....
I suggest a .38/.357 single shot rifle with .38 Special frangible bullets. The velocity is subsonic and the bullet will break up on the ground, making it as safe as can be for your uses. If you can find one of these rifles with a 26" barrel, it will be pretty quiet. I am thinking a gunsmith could get a barrel liner to convert a 36" Marlin Goose gun for your use.
My rifle is zeroed for about 60 yards, now I'm going to have to shoot it at 100 yards and report back, oh darnThat's a good idea actually. What is your zero distance and how much bullet drop if you misjudged distance?
Build a CZ 527 in 9mm. Shoot 147 subs.
There's a thread here somewhere. I think it was VJJPunisher
he lives in new yorkIs OP trolling us? Or does OP live in a state where suppressors aren't legal?
No suppressor, for varmints/neighbors, you want .17 HMR or .22 Hornet. Other options are .300 Blackout Subs, or 8.6 Blackout. But really, at that point, I'd also look at .44 Mag or Special in a lever, loaded subsonic. Others have suggested suppressed PCP, and they are right, that is a great solution that won't bug the neighbors.
Just buy a suppressor and then almost anything will work well.
115 yds, even more reason for an airgun. Pick how much energy you want @ 115. Mine is an RTI Prophet Performance in .22. It's an 80 ft/lb gun, but is optimized with a slower twist barrel for pellets instead of slugs, which have worse BC and might not be enough energy at 115. An FX in .25 with a slug liner would probably be enough. Hatsan if you're on a budget. Just go up in caliber if you want more energy - the cost will be shots/fill and the difference in projectile cost. Here's my little .22 that shoots right with my Tikka 22lr.
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No, I think I can suppress an air rifleIt's not a firearm so no permit / license needed for the suppressor. Does NY State regulate non-firearms?
9mm AR shooting a 147gr subsonic round. Put a can on the gun. I shoot them 100+ yards all the time.I appreciate all the thoughtful responses (keep em coming). Just a point for clarity, I chose the word "quietest" specifically, because I know that nothing will actually be "quiet". I fully understand that quietest can still be quite loud, so I'm looking for the "least loud". Also, I edited the distance down to 115, since that effectively the far end of the range on my property.
Thanks again, these responses are super helpful.
The can is the issue here. No "can" do in nys9mm AR shooting a 147gr subsonic round. Put a can on the gun. I shoot them 100+ yards all the time.
This / suppressed Air ...No, I think I can suppress an air rifle
This / suppressed Air ...
As Others have already posted, is ONLY 1 Correct Answer for NOT suppressed , and burning powder for 'The most quiet ' . Also deadly accurate 100 yard and +Plus farther depending on your setup .
with, ( burning powder ) and Quiet . Anyone who has shot rimfire Match, or even just watch a match . .
ALL Can put their hand on a Bible and swear it's ... 22lr 40 grain match, with a long barrel ( example 24" - 26" ) with a bloop-tube .
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Where in NY I’m on the islandI live in New York State (sad trombone sound), suppressors are banned. I wish I could have a suppressor here. Then this thread would be unnecessary.
Hudson Valley, it's somewhat rural, very few neighbors. I can shoot anything I want, legally. I hunt deer in my backyard with the loudest 223 in the world. I spent the afternoon in my yard, tuning the gas block/ejection on my 6.5CM AR10 that I just finished building - it was crazy loud and no one said a word, and it was totally fine and perfectly legal. But I'd like to see what I can do to bring the decibels down, as much as the laws of physics allow, that's all.Where in NY I’m on the island
I’m in a residential area.
If you out of sight I’d suggest shooting your air rifle on weekends etc “like it’s normal”.
Then when the time comes 1 shot in the middle of the day with a 22 is nothing out of the ordinary…wow that was a loud one.
I have a house in MargaretvilleHudson Valley, it's somewhat rural, very few neighbors. I can shoot anything I want, legally. I hunt deer in my backyard with the loudest 223 in the world. I spent the afternoon in my yard, tuning the gas block/ejection on my 6.5CM AR10 that I just finished building - it was crazy loud and no one said a word, and it was totally fine and perfectly legal. But I'd like to see what I can do to bring the decibels down, as much as the laws of physics allow, that's all.
That's two hours directly north of me. I'm up there occasionally training retrievers for hunt tests and field trials. Lots of dog training just a little bit north of there.I have a house in Margaretville
Same thing I’ve made some good noise and no issues…as it should be
Sounds fun. I think you'll have one heck of a holdover.My rifle is zeroed for about 60 yards, now I'm going to have to shoot it at 100 yards and report back, oh darn....
If you're regularly shooting from stationary position, ie balcony or blind, you could build a "shooting tunnel". Used with a muzzle brake, even a half decent one will lower the noise considerably downrange.Hudson Valley, it's somewhat rural, very few neighbors. I can shoot anything I want, legally. I hunt deer in my backyard with the loudest 223 in the world. I spent the afternoon in my yard, tuning the gas block/ejection on my 6.5CM AR10 that I just finished building - it was crazy loud and no one said a word, and it was totally fine and perfectly legal. But I'd like to see what I can do to bring the decibels down, as much as the laws of physics allow, that's all.
Love this idea, and I mostly shoot from a seated position, often in a blind. Of course I cannot attach any kind of muzzle device, in fact I cannot have barrel threads accessible. But if I can build some sort of box to shoot through, which won't immediately catch on fire from the muzzle flash, then I'd certainly give that a goIf you're regularly shooting from stationary position, ie balcony or blind, you could build a "shooting tunnel". Used with a muzzle brake, even a half decent one will lower the noise considerably downrange.
I prototyped one with some 15 inch pipe, 6ft long and wrapped it with some acoustic wall insulation, and wrapped again with chicken wire. Looks like absolute dogshit but made a 300wm sound like a 223.
It fell apart pretty quickly though but proof of concept was there and I'm drawing up something that will take that sound level down to rimfire level.
(Why not suppressor? My overlords/nanny says no. But this has its advantages too. I can sample/test any rifle without attaching a supp.)
I live in New York State (sad trombone sound), suppressors are banned. I wish I could have a suppressor here. Then this thread would be unnecessary.
This is confusing. Can I duck hunt with it, what's the effective range?
But still, a subsonic 9mm coming out of a 9mm AR with a 16" barrel is pretty quiet compared to many other guns.The can is the issue here. No "can" do in nys
Same effective range as any old 12 gauge with a good choke tube- with a good coyote load 60 yards is realistic. It's basically just a 25" barrel extension with a few gas port holes drilled. They claim it helps patterning and drastically reduces recoil.. It also has standard remchoke threads on the end.This is confusing. Can I duck hunt with it, what's the effective range?