My dad grew up hunting deer and varmints with a Rem 788 .22-250. It was his favorite rifle, and when i became old enough, it also became my favorite rifle. Needless to say, many years ago when i was out deer hunting the bolt somehow managed to break and fall out, and I was never was able to find it. I have done constant searches to find a replacement, with no results. Remington apparently completely shut down and got rid of the equipment to fabricate new parts because it was taking away costumers from their more expensive line of rifles. I was just wondering if anybody knows of a place where i can find a new complete bolt assembly, or if there is another bolt that will work just as good.
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Gunsmithing Remington 788 HELP!!!
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Re: Remington 788 HELP!!!
You won't find them at Brownells, Numrich, or any of the usual suspects. They have been obsolete for a while now and Remington has no interest in supporting them any longer with parts. Because of the nature of the 788s, the aftermarket really doesn't have any interest in them either.
I know of one person who used to work on 788s for bolt handle repair jobs and other 788 work...you might give him a try and see if he knows where you can find a replacement:
Chuck Lutz
49 Bryant Drive
Perkasie, PA 18944
Phone (215) 257-4059
E-mail - [email protected]
Also, don't forget GunBroker, etc. because you'll often find "hard-to-find" parts floating around if you keep your eyes open and you are quick on the trigger (pun intended).
The other suggestion...and don't take offense...is just find a used, beater 788 at a funshow, pawnshop, etc. and use it for parts. Most of the ones I see nowadays are cheap to buy ($300 or so) and as long as it is in working order...who cares what it looks like since you'll be scraping it for spares.
You won't find them at Brownells, Numrich, or any of the usual suspects. They have been obsolete for a while now and Remington has no interest in supporting them any longer with parts. Because of the nature of the 788s, the aftermarket really doesn't have any interest in them either.
I know of one person who used to work on 788s for bolt handle repair jobs and other 788 work...you might give him a try and see if he knows where you can find a replacement:
Chuck Lutz
49 Bryant Drive
Perkasie, PA 18944
Phone (215) 257-4059
E-mail - [email protected]
Also, don't forget GunBroker, etc. because you'll often find "hard-to-find" parts floating around if you keep your eyes open and you are quick on the trigger (pun intended).
The other suggestion...and don't take offense...is just find a used, beater 788 at a funshow, pawnshop, etc. and use it for parts. Most of the ones I see nowadays are cheap to buy ($300 or so) and as long as it is in working order...who cares what it looks like since you'll be scraping it for spares.
Re: Remington 788 HELP!!!
Well Jim Wisner was making them but I went and looked and his has stopped also. Guess there wasn't enough demand. I can understand why, he wanted I think $325 for a flippin bolt for the cheapest made rifle Remington or most anyone else ever dumped on the market. The Savage 340 was probably cheaper but not as many were made.
http://www.wisnersinc.com/rifles/remington/boltCF.html
Well Jim Wisner was making them but I went and looked and his has stopped also. Guess there wasn't enough demand. I can understand why, he wanted I think $325 for a flippin bolt for the cheapest made rifle Remington or most anyone else ever dumped on the market. The Savage 340 was probably cheaper but not as many were made.
http://www.wisnersinc.com/rifles/remington/boltCF.html
Re: Remington 788 HELP!!!
There are 2 of them on Gun Broker right now. 1, 243 and 1 308. Both will work so you better get your Bids in FAST. Type in 788
There are 2 of them on Gun Broker right now. 1, 243 and 1 308. Both will work so you better get your Bids in FAST. Type in 788
Re: Remington 788 HELP!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..... Because of the nature of the 788s, the aftermarket really doesn't have any interest in them either.
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Then the aftermarket has not paid attention. The 788 is a great action. Rear lugged, it chambers smooth and straight. I bought a used one for my son when he was 15. A factory 18" .308 carbine, his first group measured 0.510" at 100 yards with a cheap 3-9x scope. The barrel still shows reamer marks. It matters not. It just shoots bugholes all day long, like when he takes it prairie dog shooting. Even more fascinating, he had never fired a rifle before that 1st group!
The nature of the 788 is one of simplicity and accuracy.
Jason
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..... Because of the nature of the 788s, the aftermarket really doesn't have any interest in them either.
</div></div>
Then the aftermarket has not paid attention. The 788 is a great action. Rear lugged, it chambers smooth and straight. I bought a used one for my son when he was 15. A factory 18" .308 carbine, his first group measured 0.510" at 100 yards with a cheap 3-9x scope. The barrel still shows reamer marks. It matters not. It just shoots bugholes all day long, like when he takes it prairie dog shooting. Even more fascinating, he had never fired a rifle before that 1st group!
The nature of the 788 is one of simplicity and accuracy.
Jason
Re: Remington 788 HELP!!!
My late father's only rifle was a 788 in .243 winchester that he used to shoot coyotes and a few deer. The gun is in gorgeous condition for being over 30 years old. The metal on the gun looks brand new. This gun also shoots very well like some have related about their guns.
The gun is mine now and I would have offered to sell you the gun or bolt if it had no sentimental value. As it is now, I wouldn't sell it for anything. Great little rifle. Hope you find a replacement bolt.
My late father's only rifle was a 788 in .243 winchester that he used to shoot coyotes and a few deer. The gun is in gorgeous condition for being over 30 years old. The metal on the gun looks brand new. This gun also shoots very well like some have related about their guns.
The gun is mine now and I would have offered to sell you the gun or bolt if it had no sentimental value. As it is now, I wouldn't sell it for anything. Great little rifle. Hope you find a replacement bolt.
Re: Remington 788 HELP!!!
There are at least 3 different 788 action lengths and I have heard perhaps 4 but could never verify.
The 44 mag is one, 222/223 MAY be same length as the 22/250, MAY BE? The 243/308/30-30 and 6mm have at least 1 length. I have read that the 6mm is longer so perhaps the 243/308 is same length as 22/250 and it not same as 222/223??? Never had one of each around at the same time to measure and not smart enough to write the specs/measurements down!
In the late 80's a friend brought me a 22/250 bolt that he had stuck a case in and pulled the front ring off bolt nose that shields/helps hold in extractor. Found a gent in KS with one for sale from a 6mm. Bought it and found out it was too long for the 22/250 and had to send it back.(this back in the Gun List days and not easy access internet
) So before you buy off the net etc get the measurements of what you own and what is for sale!
There are at least 3 different 788 action lengths and I have heard perhaps 4 but could never verify.
The 44 mag is one, 222/223 MAY be same length as the 22/250, MAY BE? The 243/308/30-30 and 6mm have at least 1 length. I have read that the 6mm is longer so perhaps the 243/308 is same length as 22/250 and it not same as 222/223??? Never had one of each around at the same time to measure and not smart enough to write the specs/measurements down!
In the late 80's a friend brought me a 22/250 bolt that he had stuck a case in and pulled the front ring off bolt nose that shields/helps hold in extractor. Found a gent in KS with one for sale from a 6mm. Bought it and found out it was too long for the 22/250 and had to send it back.(this back in the Gun List days and not easy access internet
Re: Remington 788 HELP!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..... Because of the nature of the 788s, the aftermarket really doesn't have any interest in them either.
</div></div>
Then the aftermarket has not paid attention. The 788 is a great action. Rear lugged, it chambers smooth and straight. I bought a used one for my son when he was 15. A factory 18" .308 carbine, his first group measured 0.510" at 100 yards with a cheap 3-9x scope. The barrel still shows reamer marks. It matters not. It just shoots bugholes all day long, like when he takes it prairie dog shooting. Even more fascinating, he had never fired a rifle before that 1st group!
The nature of the 788 is one of simplicity and accuracy.
Jason </div></div>
If Jim Wisner quit production then there is NO serious demand for aftermarket 788 bolts. His main business is replicating obsolete parts no longer supplied by original manufacturer. A couple dozen bolts per year isn't worth anyones time in machine/tooling setup. When he did make them they were $325 which is 4 times the original selling price of the rifle in the mid to late 70's.
Bought my first one lightly used in 75 for $75 and wouldn't give more than that for one now. Did pay $129 for a new 6mm in 78-79? Don't understand the current market price for them with no parts and ability to buy a new or used 700 for about the same price. They were a cheaply made high maintenance short life expectancy rig when they were introduced! Now almost 40yrs old and nobody can figure out why there isn't a slew of new parts being made.
Rear lugs are not an asset to accuracy in most cases, triggers sucked, bolt handles broke off easily, safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop on the older ones, mags are chit, I fail to see the current market value, but that's just me I guess!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..... Because of the nature of the 788s, the aftermarket really doesn't have any interest in them either.
</div></div>
Then the aftermarket has not paid attention. The 788 is a great action. Rear lugged, it chambers smooth and straight. I bought a used one for my son when he was 15. A factory 18" .308 carbine, his first group measured 0.510" at 100 yards with a cheap 3-9x scope. The barrel still shows reamer marks. It matters not. It just shoots bugholes all day long, like when he takes it prairie dog shooting. Even more fascinating, he had never fired a rifle before that 1st group!
The nature of the 788 is one of simplicity and accuracy.
Jason </div></div>
If Jim Wisner quit production then there is NO serious demand for aftermarket 788 bolts. His main business is replicating obsolete parts no longer supplied by original manufacturer. A couple dozen bolts per year isn't worth anyones time in machine/tooling setup. When he did make them they were $325 which is 4 times the original selling price of the rifle in the mid to late 70's.
Bought my first one lightly used in 75 for $75 and wouldn't give more than that for one now. Did pay $129 for a new 6mm in 78-79? Don't understand the current market price for them with no parts and ability to buy a new or used 700 for about the same price. They were a cheaply made high maintenance short life expectancy rig when they were introduced! Now almost 40yrs old and nobody can figure out why there isn't a slew of new parts being made.
Rear lugs are not an asset to accuracy in most cases, triggers sucked, bolt handles broke off easily, safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop on the older ones, mags are chit, I fail to see the current market value, but that's just me I guess!!
Re: Remington 788 HELP!!!
Silhouette loved rifles.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..... Because of the nature of the 788s, the aftermarket really doesn't have any interest in them either.
</div></div>
Then the aftermarket has not paid attention. The 788 is a great action. Rear lugged, it chambers smooth and straight. I bought a used one for my son when he was 15. A factory 18" .308 carbine, his first group measured 0.510" at 100 yards with a cheap 3-9x scope. The barrel still shows reamer marks. It matters not. It just shoots bugholes all day long, like when he takes it prairie dog shooting. Even more fascinating, he had never fired a rifle before that 1st group!
The nature of the 788 is one of simplicity and accuracy.
Jason </div></div>
If Jim Wisner quit production then there is NO serious demand for aftermarket 788 bolts. His main business is replicating obsolete parts no longer supplied by original manufacturer. A couple dozen bolts per year isn't worth anyones time in machine/tooling setup. When he did make them they were $325 which is 4 times the original selling price of the rifle in the mid to late 70's.
Bought my first one lightly used in 75 for $75 and wouldn't give more than that for one now. Did pay $129 for a new 6mm in 78-79? Don't understand the current market price for them with no parts and ability to buy a new or used 700 for about the same price. They were a cheaply made high maintenance short life expectancy rig when they were introduced! Now almost 40yrs old and nobody can figure out why there isn't a slew of new parts being made.
Rear lugs are not an asset to accuracy in most cases, triggers sucked, bolt handles broke off easily, safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop on the older ones, mags are chit, I fail to see the current market value, but that's just me I guess!! </div></div>
Silhouette loved rifles.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..... Because of the nature of the 788s, the aftermarket really doesn't have any interest in them either.
</div></div>
Then the aftermarket has not paid attention. The 788 is a great action. Rear lugged, it chambers smooth and straight. I bought a used one for my son when he was 15. A factory 18" .308 carbine, his first group measured 0.510" at 100 yards with a cheap 3-9x scope. The barrel still shows reamer marks. It matters not. It just shoots bugholes all day long, like when he takes it prairie dog shooting. Even more fascinating, he had never fired a rifle before that 1st group!
The nature of the 788 is one of simplicity and accuracy.
Jason </div></div>
If Jim Wisner quit production then there is NO serious demand for aftermarket 788 bolts. His main business is replicating obsolete parts no longer supplied by original manufacturer. A couple dozen bolts per year isn't worth anyones time in machine/tooling setup. When he did make them they were $325 which is 4 times the original selling price of the rifle in the mid to late 70's.
Bought my first one lightly used in 75 for $75 and wouldn't give more than that for one now. Did pay $129 for a new 6mm in 78-79? Don't understand the current market price for them with no parts and ability to buy a new or used 700 for about the same price. They were a cheaply made high maintenance short life expectancy rig when they were introduced! Now almost 40yrs old and nobody can figure out why there isn't a slew of new parts being made.
Rear lugs are not an asset to accuracy in most cases, triggers sucked, bolt handles broke off easily, safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop on the older ones, mags are chit, I fail to see the current market value, but that's just me I guess!! </div></div>
Re: Remington 788 HELP!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Rear lugs are not an asset to accuracy in most cases, triggers sucked, bolt handles broke off easily, safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop on the older ones, mags are chit, I fail to see the current market value, but that's just me I guess!! </div></div>
Who cares about the trigger? Install an aftermarket. Same with the mags.
What do you mean "bolt handles broke off...safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop.." It sounds like you're good at breaking things. In over 20 years of shooting I have never broke any of the above, or came close. As with all my personal property I treat my rifles with respect, not babied, but applying a little common sense goes far. But that's just me I guess!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Rear lugs are not an asset to accuracy in most cases, triggers sucked, bolt handles broke off easily, safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop on the older ones, mags are chit, I fail to see the current market value, but that's just me I guess!! </div></div>
Who cares about the trigger? Install an aftermarket. Same with the mags.
What do you mean "bolt handles broke off...safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop.." It sounds like you're good at breaking things. In over 20 years of shooting I have never broke any of the above, or came close. As with all my personal property I treat my rifles with respect, not babied, but applying a little common sense goes far. But that's just me I guess!!
Re: Remington 788 HELP!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Rear lugs are not an asset to accuracy in most cases, triggers sucked, bolt handles broke off easily, safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop on the older ones, mags are chit, I fail to see the current market value, but that's just me I guess!! </div></div>
Who cares about the trigger? Install an aftermarket. Same with the mags.
What do you mean "bolt handles broke off...safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop.." It sounds like you're good at breaking things. In over 20 years of shooting I have never broke any of the above, or came close. As with all my personal property I treat my rifles with respect, not babied, but applying a little common sense goes far. But that's just me I guess!! </div></div>
Well, guess I need to make my experiences more clear and more detailed for those who have so much more 'hands on' knowledge then I have!
I have owned 4 788's some 20yrs+ ago. First centerfire rifle I owned was a used 22/250. Bought a 6mm new in the late 70's, also a 223 slightly used and a used 243 that I traded a POS Remington 742 6mm for, don't know who got the worst end of that deal. Breaking the handle of the 243 was my fault and not afraid to admit it,my stupidity was in not knowing the design flaws of a silver soldered butt joint!!
Now to answer your 'sarcastic' and apparently knowitall comments. I have cleaned, repaired, bedded,barreled rifles etc for friends, neighbors, relatives etc for 30+yrs. Get alot of chit brought to me needing something done. This includes broken safety knobs off 788's, locked up 788's, bolts sliding out the rear because the bolt stop is damaged/broken off of 788's, cases stuck in 788's from improper reloads etc etc. Have worked on 20-25 at the minimum including completely cleaning some that have had alot of miles in the back window of a truck for 20yrs.
I stated I "have owned" meaning I no longer and no longer have a desire to own anymore. While most shot reasonable to me they weren't and never will be worth what they are currently bringing to me.
You can own all of them you want with no worries of me buying one out from under you. You can "baby them" all you want, you can treat them with all the "respect" your lil heart desires and you use all the "common sense" you want, still don't/won't change my opinion or how many people treat theirs and the value currently of a 788!!!
As for triggers, if you wish to fork out $100 and change for a Timney, find a Canjar etc fine. Fix away to satisfy and justify your ownership!!! Pay more for a trigger than what the gun sold for new.
As for the bolts easily breaking off apparently you don't know as many shooter/hunters as I do or have never read of such things on the net, not hard to find the 788 bolt handle breakage is one of the design shortfalls. Guess if everyone 'coddled' them like you this wouldn't be an issue!
Hope I explained this in simple enough terms? Buy/own all the 788's you wish! I have no desire to relive my 788 experiences and damn sure didn't tell anyone to NOT buy one, just their shortfalls and design issues.
So how many 788's do you own or have worked on??? My statements were made on numerous examples and facts well known by many of the 788's cheap design issues!
This place as I have stated several times is really getting to be a pissfest by all the knowitall newbies who thrive on nonexperience arguements via their keyboards.
Done discussing this!
Respectfully,
Dennis
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Rear lugs are not an asset to accuracy in most cases, triggers sucked, bolt handles broke off easily, safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop on the older ones, mags are chit, I fail to see the current market value, but that's just me I guess!! </div></div>
Who cares about the trigger? Install an aftermarket. Same with the mags.
What do you mean "bolt handles broke off...safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop.." It sounds like you're good at breaking things. In over 20 years of shooting I have never broke any of the above, or came close. As with all my personal property I treat my rifles with respect, not babied, but applying a little common sense goes far. But that's just me I guess!! </div></div>
Well, guess I need to make my experiences more clear and more detailed for those who have so much more 'hands on' knowledge then I have!
I have owned 4 788's some 20yrs+ ago. First centerfire rifle I owned was a used 22/250. Bought a 6mm new in the late 70's, also a 223 slightly used and a used 243 that I traded a POS Remington 742 6mm for, don't know who got the worst end of that deal. Breaking the handle of the 243 was my fault and not afraid to admit it,my stupidity was in not knowing the design flaws of a silver soldered butt joint!!
Now to answer your 'sarcastic' and apparently knowitall comments. I have cleaned, repaired, bedded,barreled rifles etc for friends, neighbors, relatives etc for 30+yrs. Get alot of chit brought to me needing something done. This includes broken safety knobs off 788's, locked up 788's, bolts sliding out the rear because the bolt stop is damaged/broken off of 788's, cases stuck in 788's from improper reloads etc etc. Have worked on 20-25 at the minimum including completely cleaning some that have had alot of miles in the back window of a truck for 20yrs.
I stated I "have owned" meaning I no longer and no longer have a desire to own anymore. While most shot reasonable to me they weren't and never will be worth what they are currently bringing to me.
You can own all of them you want with no worries of me buying one out from under you. You can "baby them" all you want, you can treat them with all the "respect" your lil heart desires and you use all the "common sense" you want, still don't/won't change my opinion or how many people treat theirs and the value currently of a 788!!!
As for triggers, if you wish to fork out $100 and change for a Timney, find a Canjar etc fine. Fix away to satisfy and justify your ownership!!! Pay more for a trigger than what the gun sold for new.
As for the bolts easily breaking off apparently you don't know as many shooter/hunters as I do or have never read of such things on the net, not hard to find the 788 bolt handle breakage is one of the design shortfalls. Guess if everyone 'coddled' them like you this wouldn't be an issue!
Hope I explained this in simple enough terms? Buy/own all the 788's you wish! I have no desire to relive my 788 experiences and damn sure didn't tell anyone to NOT buy one, just their shortfalls and design issues.
So how many 788's do you own or have worked on??? My statements were made on numerous examples and facts well known by many of the 788's cheap design issues!
This place as I have stated several times is really getting to be a pissfest by all the knowitall newbies who thrive on nonexperience arguements via their keyboards.
Done discussing this!
Respectfully,
Dennis
Re: Remington 788 HELP!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Rear lugs are not an asset to accuracy in most cases, triggers sucked, bolt handles broke off easily, safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop on the older ones, mags are chit, I fail to see the current market value, but that's just me I guess!! </div></div>
Who cares about the trigger? Install an aftermarket. Same with the mags.
What do you mean "bolt handles broke off...safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop.." It sounds like you're good at breaking things. In over 20 years of shooting I have never broke any of the above, or came close. As with all my personal property I treat my rifles with respect, not babied, but applying a little common sense goes far. But that's just me I guess!! </div></div>
Well, guess I need to make my experiences more clear and more detailed for those who have so much more 'hands on' knowledge then I have!
I have owned 4 788's some 20yrs+ ago. First centerfire rifle I owned was a used 22/250. Bought a 6mm new in the late 70's, also a 223 slightly used and a used 243 that I traded a POS Remington 742 6mm for, don't know who got the worst end of that deal. Breaking the handle of the 243 was my fault and not afraid to admit it,my stupidity was in not knowing the design flaws of a silver soldered butt joint!!
Now to answer your 'sarcastic' and apparently knowitall comments. I have cleaned, repaired, bedded,barreled rifles etc for friends, neighbors, relatives etc for 30+yrs. Get alot of chit brought to me needing something done. This includes broken safety knobs off 788's, locked up 788's, bolts sliding out the rear because the bolt stop is damaged/broken off of 788's, cases stuck in 788's from improper reloads etc etc. Have worked on 20-25 at the minimum including completely cleaning some that have had alot of miles in the back window of a truck for 20yrs.
I stated I "have owned" meaning I no longer and no longer have a desire to own anymore. While most shot reasonable to me they weren't and never will be worth what they are currently bringing to me.
You can own all of them you want with no worries of me buying one out from under you. You can "baby them" all you want, you can treat them with all the "respect" your lil heart desires and you use all the "common sense" you want, still don't/won't change my opinion or how many people treat theirs and the value currently of a 788!!!
As for triggers, if you wish to fork out $100 and change for a Timney, find a Canjar etc fine. Fix away to satisfy and justify your ownership!!! Pay more for a trigger than what the gun sold for new.
As for the bolts easily breaking off apparently you don't know as many shooter/hunters as I do or have never read of such things on the net, not hard to find the 788 bolt handle breakage is one of the design shortfalls. Guess if everyone 'coddled' them like you this wouldn't be an issue!
Hope I explained this in simple enough terms? Buy/own all the 788's you wish! I have no desire to relive my 788 experiences and damn sure didn't tell anyone to NOT buy one, just their shortfalls and design issues.
So how many 788's do you own or have worked on??? My statements were made on numerous examples and facts well known by many of the 788's cheap design issues!
This place as I have stated several times is really getting to be a pissfest by all the knowitall newbies who thrive on nonexperience arguements via their keyboards.
Done discussing this!
Respectfully,
Dennis </div></div>
Hey Dennis,
Re-read what I wrote earlier. I never said I babied or coddled any of my rifles. Just applied a little common sense. And I don't wish to change your opinion on anything because I don't care. I simply laugh when I read things on the internet from people like you who make wild claims of "broken this...." and "broken that..." implying faulty quality when in fact parts may have broke, though not because of any inherit manufacturing fault, but rather due to idiodicy than anything else.
Jason
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SDWhirlwind</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Rear lugs are not an asset to accuracy in most cases, triggers sucked, bolt handles broke off easily, safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop on the older ones, mags are chit, I fail to see the current market value, but that's just me I guess!! </div></div>
Who cares about the trigger? Install an aftermarket. Same with the mags.
What do you mean "bolt handles broke off...safety lever gets broken off easily as does bolt stop.." It sounds like you're good at breaking things. In over 20 years of shooting I have never broke any of the above, or came close. As with all my personal property I treat my rifles with respect, not babied, but applying a little common sense goes far. But that's just me I guess!! </div></div>
Well, guess I need to make my experiences more clear and more detailed for those who have so much more 'hands on' knowledge then I have!
I have owned 4 788's some 20yrs+ ago. First centerfire rifle I owned was a used 22/250. Bought a 6mm new in the late 70's, also a 223 slightly used and a used 243 that I traded a POS Remington 742 6mm for, don't know who got the worst end of that deal. Breaking the handle of the 243 was my fault and not afraid to admit it,my stupidity was in not knowing the design flaws of a silver soldered butt joint!!
Now to answer your 'sarcastic' and apparently knowitall comments. I have cleaned, repaired, bedded,barreled rifles etc for friends, neighbors, relatives etc for 30+yrs. Get alot of chit brought to me needing something done. This includes broken safety knobs off 788's, locked up 788's, bolts sliding out the rear because the bolt stop is damaged/broken off of 788's, cases stuck in 788's from improper reloads etc etc. Have worked on 20-25 at the minimum including completely cleaning some that have had alot of miles in the back window of a truck for 20yrs.
I stated I "have owned" meaning I no longer and no longer have a desire to own anymore. While most shot reasonable to me they weren't and never will be worth what they are currently bringing to me.
You can own all of them you want with no worries of me buying one out from under you. You can "baby them" all you want, you can treat them with all the "respect" your lil heart desires and you use all the "common sense" you want, still don't/won't change my opinion or how many people treat theirs and the value currently of a 788!!!
As for triggers, if you wish to fork out $100 and change for a Timney, find a Canjar etc fine. Fix away to satisfy and justify your ownership!!! Pay more for a trigger than what the gun sold for new.
As for the bolts easily breaking off apparently you don't know as many shooter/hunters as I do or have never read of such things on the net, not hard to find the 788 bolt handle breakage is one of the design shortfalls. Guess if everyone 'coddled' them like you this wouldn't be an issue!
Hope I explained this in simple enough terms? Buy/own all the 788's you wish! I have no desire to relive my 788 experiences and damn sure didn't tell anyone to NOT buy one, just their shortfalls and design issues.
So how many 788's do you own or have worked on??? My statements were made on numerous examples and facts well known by many of the 788's cheap design issues!
This place as I have stated several times is really getting to be a pissfest by all the knowitall newbies who thrive on nonexperience arguements via their keyboards.
Done discussing this!
Respectfully,
Dennis </div></div>
Hey Dennis,
Re-read what I wrote earlier. I never said I babied or coddled any of my rifles. Just applied a little common sense. And I don't wish to change your opinion on anything because I don't care. I simply laugh when I read things on the internet from people like you who make wild claims of "broken this...." and "broken that..." implying faulty quality when in fact parts may have broke, though not because of any inherit manufacturing fault, but rather due to idiodicy than anything else.
Jason
Re: Remington 788 HELP!!!
<span style="font-weight: bold"> ..." implying faulty quality when in fact parts may have broke, though not because of any inherit manufacturing fault, but rather due to idiodicy than anything else. </span>
Butt soldered bolt handles braking off, bolt stops/releases breaking, saftey knob on safety breaking off is NOT BECAUSE "OF ANY INHERIT FACTORY FAULT" ???? Oh yea, I forgot, replace those high end parts with aftermarket?, why if there are NO flaws?
The rifles didn't have alot of R&D just for the reason of keeping costs low to that niche of hunters/shooters. I DID NOT say they weren't worth buying at the time for the selling price, my point was what it cost now for one or investing money into one at todays market price because of the issues I mentioned! Also abolutely no factory replacement parts anymore. Trying to make the point that they aren't worth the money they are bringing into todays market. Never have seen a knowledgeable gun guy pay $400+ for one at a gunshow or farm auction, just the uneducated with no idea of how they were made.
You have not answered my question of how many do you currently own? Have owned? or worked on???? Guessing 1 or 2!
You are only looking to argue your point, so argue with yourself because you aren't going to convince me!!
Discussion on my part is over!!
<span style="font-weight: bold"> ..." implying faulty quality when in fact parts may have broke, though not because of any inherit manufacturing fault, but rather due to idiodicy than anything else. </span>
Butt soldered bolt handles braking off, bolt stops/releases breaking, saftey knob on safety breaking off is NOT BECAUSE "OF ANY INHERIT FACTORY FAULT" ???? Oh yea, I forgot, replace those high end parts with aftermarket?, why if there are NO flaws?
The rifles didn't have alot of R&D just for the reason of keeping costs low to that niche of hunters/shooters. I DID NOT say they weren't worth buying at the time for the selling price, my point was what it cost now for one or investing money into one at todays market price because of the issues I mentioned! Also abolutely no factory replacement parts anymore. Trying to make the point that they aren't worth the money they are bringing into todays market. Never have seen a knowledgeable gun guy pay $400+ for one at a gunshow or farm auction, just the uneducated with no idea of how they were made.
You have not answered my question of how many do you currently own? Have owned? or worked on???? Guessing 1 or 2!
You are only looking to argue your point, so argue with yourself because you aren't going to convince me!!
Discussion on my part is over!!
I grew up with my dad's Remington 788 22-250 (1967) is the first year I believe that they made it with that caliber. I love it as a chuck hunting rifle. Used it a few years for deer hunting with 80 grain(when my brother was using the 30-30) I got it when my dad passed. It has the bull barrel, Weatherby scope and the 3 round magazine. It's been a safe queen for years now still in great condition just you know how the bluing is as the years go by, all original. I've been selling all my long guns since my last back surgery went south. I just shoot pistols and bullpups now. I know that my dad wouldn't be disappointed if I sold the long guns to buy pistols that I can enjoy and comfortably shoot. I've been trying to get my friends that just target/competition shooting to go hunting with me..I would just get a good chair to sit in (just outside of my truck) and hunt that way. My days of tramping through the woods are gone unfortunately. So you make the best of what you can do. I've seen on gunbroker that people pay outrageous prices for older guns in great condition. Must be nice to have that kind of $$$.
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