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Remington actually did it...
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Any takers HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Maybe a lefty could get lucky one day. Seems like no one is even trying anymore.
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I'm glad to see that they are offering the 6.5 Creedmoore in the Magpul stock at pretty much same price point as the Ruger RPR. I mean because I would much rather have a rifle that was built with terrible QC, whose recoil lug may or may not be squared to the rifle, has firing pin problems, extractor problems, and is thrown in a stock that doesn't really cost that much. Other wise I could get a rifle that offers WAY more features, is the next generation of production bolt action rifle, and will be just as accurate if not more so at about the same price. Yea sign me up.
I jumped on their website and the 260 said available, the CM was not. Must still be figuring it out.
Although Remington is far from perfect, I do love my 700's, and I love running Badger metal.. Better late than never.. I could see myself falling for the SPS Tactical in the not so distant future, and I'm pretty sure she would be able to ring steel pretty good bone-stock with the crappy hogue on it
Nope, the big rifle makers stick us with the bottom of the barrel guns meant for the unwashed masses.
I finally got fed up and bought a Desert Tech SRS. This stupid left eyeball is getting expensive...
Why would you confuse MSRP for street price?
.260 Rem version for 860 bucks
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...ul+Bolt+260+Remington+22+5+1+Magpul+Stk+Black
While the ruger precision in 6.5 creedmoor goes for 1200+
While I think the RPR is a much better rifle, 400 bones is a big difference.
.260 Rem version for 860 bucks
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...ul+Bolt+260+Remington+22+5+1+Magpul+Stk+Black
While the ruger precision in 6.5 creedmoor goes for 1200+
While I think the RPR is a much better rifle, 400 bones is a big difference.
Remington 700 Magpul Bolt 260 - $890
Tikka T3x CTR .260 Rem. - $998
http://www.eurooptic.com/JRTXC321-Ti...N-JRTXC32.aspx
For $108 I am taking the Tikka every single time...
Tikka T3x CTR .260 Rem. - $998
http://www.eurooptic.com/JRTXC321-Ti...N-JRTXC32.aspx
For $108 I am taking the Tikka every single time...
I didnt see that but even more to the point. I wonder why they are so heavily discounted?
I think is because you can get the new Tikka T3 Tac A-1 for $1798. Just speculating.
Fair enough, the MSRP for the Ruger RPR is $1599 while the Remington Shit Stick is listed at $1175. That is a little more than $400, but I wouldn't buy that Remington for $400 let alone $860.
Whether you buy one or not is a moot point.
I was pointing out that you need to compare street price to street price not the MSRP of the remington to the street price of the RPR
I was pointing out that you need to compare street price to street price not the MSRP of the remington to the street price of the RPR
They only made so many...my understanding is that they were old T3 actions that they upgraded with the G10 chassis...I dont think it was ever a production run just a limited/fixed release
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I got my Tikka CTR 20" 6.5 Creedmoor for 799.99 at Whittaker Guns. It was my 4th and the 3 before it are sub half MOA. Why get a sloppy Remington with an average trigger?
Good point. It would have been more appropriate for me to compare the Remington to the Savage or the Tikka, which both are much better rifles than the Remington. You are right, the RPR is just a wee bit higher in price than the rifles I just referenced.
I went through three 7mm Mag's ("700 Long Range") this year, none would shoot and the factory couldn't get them to shoot either. They gave me a refund. Remington is not what they used to be sadly. I'll never buy another factory rifle from them again. Absolutely horrible quality control. Great that they are adopting the Creedmoor (late per usual) but I doubt they will hold a candle to other brands that have proven QC for significantly less money.
I looked at one at SWFA. Pretty good package. Retail was just under $1K.
They are also doing a 5R model in 6.5 creed. I was pretty tempted.
Now if FN would just give us the FN SPR in a 6.5. And BTW FN, make it chrome lined.
They are also doing a 5R model in 6.5 creed. I was pretty tempted.
Now if FN would just give us the FN SPR in a 6.5. And BTW FN, make it chrome lined.
All factory rifles mentioned are the same crap, and the RPR is the most overpriced of the bunch. It was built to be a sub 1k dollar rifle, and the kool-aide craze has turned it into a 1200 dollar rifle, they had to raise the MSRP. The Savage is appropriately priced. I would compare it to a disposable diaper. Lets have some more diatribe about which dog turd smells best.
Lol! Bingo, we have a winner!
Yes, this thread happens to be a pile on Remington thread, but we've all seen the other threads about (place favorite factory rifle here) with mostly the same comments. Good fun.
Yes, this thread happens to be a pile on Remington thread, but we've all seen the other threads about (place favorite factory rifle here) with mostly the same comments. Good fun.
Garbage guns. You can get a Ruger American in 6.5CM or 6CM for less money, and its in every way shape and form a better designed and built rifle. Po man's Tikka.
Supercorndogs goes on record to state that all mass manufactured rifles are crappy junk, and Primus you follow that up and state the Ruger American is better built than a 700?
If a new shooter was reading this thread they would probably turn around in dismay if they took these opinions to heart - thinking if they couldn't afford a $4K custom then why bother.
I own a 700, and I own a Ruger American. I would like to know from an engineering standpoint how a Ruger American Predator is better designed and built than the new 700 Magpul.
In my opinion Primus is dead wrong, but I'm open for change.
If a new shooter was reading this thread they would probably turn around in dismay if they took these opinions to heart - thinking if they couldn't afford a $4K custom then why bother.
I own a 700, and I own a Ruger American. I would like to know from an engineering standpoint how a Ruger American Predator is better designed and built than the new 700 Magpul.
In my opinion Primus is dead wrong, but I'm open for change.
The Ruger American is not exactly the pinnacle of rifle design, but I would still take one over a Remington.
It has: better extractor, more easily replaceable extractor, three lug bolt, easily replaceable bolt handle.
As far as build quality, these are all issues I've seen on my 5 Remington 700s: Broken extractor, non-functioning extractor, extractor that won't work no matter how many times it's been to smith, Mis-timed bolt handle, warped receiver, mislocated scope base holes, mislocated action holes.
The Ruger Americans I've seen have had some of the worst machining I've seen in a firearm, but they still did not effect function like the above issues.
rookie7, I believe that you are correct. I find this whole thread to have taken a humorous, but no unexpected turn. Over the years, I've seen many of these bash the manufacturers threads and they all sound the same after a while. I have many of the above mentioned rifles and by some miracle they all shoot and do so without issues that would make me mad enough to call them crap. Any manufacturer making hundreds of thousands of a certain model will have a small percentage that have issues.
Those are the issues that are magnified here on the giant magnifying glass called the internet forums. Are they the level of quality and precision that many here are used to or expect? Certainly not. But for those just dipping a toe into LR precision rifle, or those that are interested, but not to the level they want to throw down $2000 plus for a rifle just to enter the arena, most of the factory offerings are reasonable performers and will get them started.
Some will never want nor need more. Others will get bit bad and find themselves spending much more to buy custom or high end like AI, DT, Cadex, etc. This is very often how the process works. For me, the gateway drug was a great shooting .308 DPMS.
All of the time, we see someone posting the old saw, "Buy once, cry once", often in poor context. While that is a decent general adage, we should not forget that:
Those are the issues that are magnified here on the giant magnifying glass called the internet forums. Are they the level of quality and precision that many here are used to or expect? Certainly not. But for those just dipping a toe into LR precision rifle, or those that are interested, but not to the level they want to throw down $2000 plus for a rifle just to enter the arena, most of the factory offerings are reasonable performers and will get them started.
Some will never want nor need more. Others will get bit bad and find themselves spending much more to buy custom or high end like AI, DT, Cadex, etc. This is very often how the process works. For me, the gateway drug was a great shooting .308 DPMS.
All of the time, we see someone posting the old saw, "Buy once, cry once", often in poor context. While that is a decent general adage, we should not forget that:
- Not everyone has nor will ever have the budget to go high end, but they may still have the drive to shoot well at distance. Sure it's easy to say, "Well then, you're in the wrong sport." But that's just not reality and if you don't know that then perhaps you should step back and observe reality for a while. Sure these guys may have a tougher time of it without high end equipment, but I've seen some mighty fine shooting done with low budget gear.
- Not everybody is ready to get into this sport full retard. Many people are interested, or somewhat interested and want to see what it's all about. Some of these will have the financial wherewithal to buy top line equipment and take the loss upon sale if this isn't their bag. Many/most do not. I'm willing to bet that the production long range/precision rifles will outsell custom rifles by a large margin if that point has not already been passed.
- Some people are die-hard stingy and know that they can wring the most out the basest production rifle out there. These guys will make it work with what they've got, sometimes choosing the lowest cost item and knowing that somehow, they will get it shooting well. These are typically guys that know how to use their hands and tolls and aren't afraid to do what it takes, be that a new chamber.crown, stock, barrel, or whatever.
Super and Lash arent wrong, they do all seem to eventually lead to a "this is better than that"/"no, that is better than this" and lately its all been ending up with tikka at the top of the heap.
If I had zero shooting experience I would feel much more rewarded by getting into the game cheap and discovering what its about as opposed to dropping a shit load of cash and raising the bar for my expectations higher than could ever be met. Its hard justifying a .001 better machine job for 1000 bucks extra to someone with no frame of reference as to what that .001 is even good for. Hell, its still hard for me to justify the cash for a custom action to myself. Its an opportunity cost that I dont feel I can afford.
If I had zero shooting experience I would feel much more rewarded by getting into the game cheap and discovering what its about as opposed to dropping a shit load of cash and raising the bar for my expectations higher than could ever be met. Its hard justifying a .001 better machine job for 1000 bucks extra to someone with no frame of reference as to what that .001 is even good for. Hell, its still hard for me to justify the cash for a custom action to myself. Its an opportunity cost that I dont feel I can afford.
And...we're back...
Frame of reference - context. $2000+ was regarding custom rifles. Most of the factory offering are under $2000 by quite a bit and a few are under $1000.
Frame of reference - context. $2000+ was regarding custom rifles. Most of the factory offering are under $2000 by quite a bit and a few are under $1000.
That is true. Just getting in a guy could build a custom 6mm hot rod and have it shot out, before he could outshoot a factory rifle.
I would think Tikka would have more after market if they had been "number 1 for years." Or is that to justify buying an 800 dollar foreign rifle in a tupperware stock, when big green's comparable walmart SPS is 300 bucks, or 500 if you want the Varmint flavor. I guess the guy at customs took the money for a decent stock, like a 5R or 700P.
I need another Remington 700 action because I have a ton of parts, anyone else?
This sounds a lot like the 9mm vs .45 threads. The 700 has killed a lot of bad guys so it can't be that bad. How many Ruger American actions are out there doing that? In my totally meaningless and unsolicited opinion, the biggest advantage over the 700 for the American is the 3 lug bolt, but that's no deal breaker.
