Russia's Staggering Losses In Ukraine

[theLBC]

'To Hell With Your Mobilization': Russian Who Denounced Ukraine War On His Storefront Could Face Prison

www.rferl.org

sad, but this is happening on both sides...
i also heard that protesters are getting conscription papers for their efforts.

 

[BCP]

If all of western Ukraine goes Eu and these 4 regions currently under referendum turn Russia how is that not acceptable for both?

If only things were easy like that.

Honestly I thought Putin was smarter than all this. Instead he is doubling down on stupid.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

If only things were easy like that.

Honestly I thought Putin was smarter than all this. Instead he is doubling down on stupid.

I wish it were that easy. I am sharing my, idealistic view. I know the real world doesn’t work like that.

I am surprised he didn’t see it for the trap that it is. I think he mis calculated NATOs willingness to step in. Seems he is doubling down. Will NATO follow suit??

 

[RUTGERS95]

I wish it were that easy. I am sharing my, idealistic view. I know the real world doesn’t work like that.

I am surprised he didn’t see it for the trap that it is. I think he mis calculated NATOs willingness to step in. Seems he is doubling down. Will NATO follow suit??

no, NATO will not risk war for Ukraine is what I believe. Italy election is telling

 

[lariat]

no, NATO will not risk war for Ukraine is what I believe. Italy election is telling

So where do you think they will stop? The Us is part of NATO and Biden has publicly stated that this will go on as long as it takes.

 

[RUTGERS95]

So where do you think they will stop? The Us is part of NATO and Biden has publicly stated that this will go on as long as it takes.

going on and going to war are 2 very different things that are worlds apart. the us is not going to war with russia over ukraine

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

The West wants to destroy Russia once and for all and letting Ukraine do "the dirty work" while we send cold hard cash and weapons is a no brainer. If the Russians would succeed in getting the areas they want integrated into Russia/The new USSR then Ukraine is crippled and not worth spit to the Ukrainians nor The West.

The West/NATO wants to destroy Russia as they have for decades. Ukraine wants the living standards of The West and to be rid of Russia even if they have to "purge" a bunch of folks who want to align with Russia. Same as it ever has been. Wanna be a Russian?

Move to Russia. Wanna move towards the West? Kill yer neighbors and get rid of them. They'll never give in and they will undermine all attempts at moving Ukraine to where the NWO wants Ukraine to exist. The world is getting smaller every day. Get with "The Program" or get off the planet.

I hate The Game. Not The Players.

VooDoo

 

[lariat]

The West wants to destroy Russia once and for all and letting Ukraine do "the dirty work" while we send cold hard cash and weapons is a no brainer. If the Russians would succeed in getting the areas they want integrated into Russia/The new USSR then Ukraine is crippled and not worth spit to the Ukrainians nor The West.

The West/NATO wants to destroy Russia as they have for decades. Ukraine wants the living standards of The West and to be rid of Russia even if they have to "purge" a bunch of folks who want to align with Russia. Same as it ever has been. Wanna be a Russian?

Move to Russia. Wanna move towards the West? Kill yer neighbors and get rid of them. They'll never give in and they will undermine all attempts at moving Ukraine to where the NWO wants Ukraine to exist. The world is getting smaller every day. Get with "The Program" or get off the planet.

I hate The Game. Not The Players.

VooDoo

The players are the ones making the game.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

no, NATO will not risk war for Ukraine is what I believe. Italy election is telling

Sweden turned Right too. Immediately the news outlets shifted gears from Sweden Joining NATO to...

Orange man BAD AHHHH...

And NAZIS. AHHHH!!!

Trump and Nazis fuck!!!

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

The players are the ones making the game.

Not believing for a single minute that the troops getting killed in droves (The Players) are making The Game - The Global Oligarchy and NWO is making the Game and deciding the rules and stakes. The Players are just dying . And not well.

VooDoo

 

[wade2big]

Nothing the media calls far right is actually far right. Far right doesn’t even exist in mainstream politics and isn’t represented in a government anywhere in the world. Never has.

 

[wade2big]

'To Hell With Your Mobilization': Russian Who Denounced Ukraine War On His Storefront Could Face Prison

www.rferl.org

What are you trying to prove? The Russian gov’t is authoritarian just like the US gov’t? That’s par for the course. One day you guys will understand that if gov’t was such a good thing for the people under it’s control, those at the top wouldn’t have to hire so many men (police) and give them guns pointed inwards to push it’s agenda for everyone’s own good.

 

[n2ishun]

Pootin' is about 2mm away from lighting off some sunshine.
Does anyone think for a second he is going to light it off in his backyard ?

 

[Sako man]

We never invaded Cuba...

No, but they were planning on it, we learned from the island hopping in the pacific that losses were always staggering in the war with Japan. Good for the planet that khrushchev pulled back. The danger here is that neither the West or Russia are backing away from this.

It'll be interesting to see what the future brings. If Ukraine loses they are done - If Russia loses they are done. Ukraine will be absorbed into Russia if they lose- Russia will disintegrate into states if they lose. I can see why the Russians are acting the way they are. They are threatened with their very existence. I can see why folks in Ukraine would rather align with the West. If I were Zelensky, would I want my nation to be more like The East or More like The West?

The West has a much better standard of living. The Russians share ethnicity and are of Ukraine as Ukraine has been part of Russia for years.

Shit's gonna get way more violent before it can possibly get better. Let's hope is does not spread.

VooDoo

Zelensky has had a lot of opportunity to sue for peace, but the US/ Susan Rice, and UK/ Borris Johnson have said there shall be none. It's probable that Soros, and Schwab are really pushing hard for the war to continue. Russia is literally in a fight for it's existence as you say, and we move towards a UniPolar existence, kind of like the Federation in Star Trek. Russia stands in the way of the Neo Liberal Order. India, and the African nations better step in line or they face the same scrutiny.

It's funny, but the globalists want Neo Global Communism, no oil, no beef, and one world order, with the end of all nation states. Basically everything that has never worked before in history, and will never work. Bad ideas recirculated like a turd stuck in the hamster wheel.

 

[MtnGhost]

What’s the long term goal for Russia? If this is A Putin ego thing they lose. However, I was listening to a MI guy on Cleared Hot a couple weeks ago and he is convinced it’s a longer term plan.

Ukraine is the bread basket for the EU. They also produce most of the fertilizer for Africa. If Russia is to take the ports in Ukraine, they can shut off the food supply to Africa. A year or two of that and he proposed you’d see massive migration out of Africa and into the EU, overwhelming the economy’s and essentially eliminating EU NATO as a threat for decades at least.

If this second hypothesis is even close to real, and Russia wins the Donbas and the ports, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

IMO, it's either (a) a game of checkers, where Putin is making a strategic push for Russia's long-term sovereignty in this new unipolar global world reset that's being executed in real-time or (b) he's still carrying his WEF Young Global Leader membership card in his wallet, and playing his part to destroy Europe and others by depriving them of energy in support of that agenda.

You cite that, and as I stated above any and all killing of Russians post 2014 (as described above) is justified. They were occupying someone else's land and hence the Ukrainians had every right to deal with them in any way needed.

Not according to the Minsk Accords.

 

[Sako man]

Sweden turned Right too. Immediately the news outlets shifted gears from Sweden Joining NATO to... View attachment 7963601

Orange man BAD AHHHH...

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And NAZIS. AHHHH!!!

Trump and Nazis fuck!!!

Racists! Bigots! and Nazzis! Oh My!

The propaganda machine is so ridiculous, ignore the real Nazis in Azof, but go after people who want nationalism, closed borders, and their own country back. Burn down the media, and 90% of the bullshit would go away over night.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

No, but they were planning on it, we learned from the island hopping in the pacific that losses were always staggering in the war with Japan. Good for the planet that khrushchev pulled back. The danger here is that neither the West or Russia are backing away from this.

Zelensky has had a lot of opportunity to sue for peace, but the US/ Susan Rice, and UK/ Borris Johnson have said there shall be none. It's probable that Soros, and Schwab are really pushing hard for the war to continue. Russia is literally in a fight for it's existence as you say, and we move towards a UniPolar existence, kind of like the Federation in Star Trek. Russia stands in the way of the Neo Liberal Order. India, and the African nations better step in line or they face the same scrutiny.

It's funny, but the globalists want Neo Global Communism, no oil, no beef, and one world order, with the end of all nation states. Basically everything that has never worked before in history, and will never work. Bad ideas recirculated like a turd stuck in the hamster wheel.

Bay of Pigs... We kinda, totally half assedly did invade Cuba. Kennedy dropped the ball last minute which did not go over well with a “secret society”

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

" The nail that stands up will be hammered down"

As The World works towards a common Plan those who resist it will be hammered down. Good, Bad or Otherwise, the ones who resist will get hammered and we will go "that Way" until we annihilate ourselves or come to a common denominator. Those that resist the common goals will get hammered down - same as it ever was.

VooDoo

 

[theLBC]

from 2014

Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault

The liberal delusions that provoked Putin.

www.foreignaffairs.com

 

[theLBC]

 

[E. Bryant]

Unfortunately, this goes back further than 2014:

How the Past 4 American Presidents Helped Escalate Tensions in Ukraine

Russian President Vladimir Putin is singularly responsible for the war that began this week. But the past four presidential administrations missed opportunities to deescalate.

reason.com

 

[billt]

Lol, I know the logic is lost on you, as well your statement shows how little you know about the situation prior to the invasion. Everything black and white right....?

You give new meaning to the term, "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit".

 

[billt]

Your question is as relevant as picking the winner or looser in the 1st quarter in the superbowl.

Putin bit off more than he could chew, period. And he is now getting his ass kicked directly because of it. I don't give a shit what you, or anyone else thinks the actual numbers are, or aren't. Or what the "source" is or isn't. Look at the clock.

The fact of the matter is Putin is bogged down. His army is in shambles. The morale of his men are in the shitter. He is now losing ground. His military is being fed into a shredder. His able bodied male citizens back home are running, all trying to avoid being drafted into this non stop shit show. That he, and he alone masterminded.

Again, look at the clock. It tells you all you need to know. He has zero support from the Russian citizens, who have all but completely turned against him. Before Putin shit all over himself, Russia was considered by many to be the second most powerful military on the planet.

Now they look like a bunch of street thugs who picked a fight with the wrong gang. And now, all you asshole Putin lovers can do, is try to overcomplicate this entire fuck fest into something it isn't. What line of complete bullshit are you going to go with next, the "Bilderberg Group"?

 

[sharac]

and Brandon just won an international shitting chess tournament.

 

[hankpac]

I reviewed the last three pages of this argument, and didn't see any re-mention of Ukraine being a money laundry for American (and others?) politicians. Did that get forgotten?
BTW, we have regular troops (Not just SF) in Latvia, Poland, and other regions/countries over there. That has been published openly in military journals and newspapers, and the usual other sources.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Which flavor of Kool aid is your favorite?

Putin bit off more than he could chew, period. And he is now getting his ass kicked directly because of it. I don't give a shit what you, or anyone else thinks the actual numbers are, or aren't. Or what the "source" is or isn't. Look at the clock.

The fact of the matter is Putin is bogged down. His army is in shambles. The morale of his men are in the shitter. He is now losing ground. His military is being fed into a shredder. His able bodied male citizens back home are running, all trying to avoid being drafted into this non stop shit show. That he, and he alone masterminded.

Again, look at the clock. It tells you all you need to know. He has zero support from the Russian citizens, who have all but completely turned against him. Before Putin shit all over himself, Russia was considered by many to be the second most powerful military on the planet.

Now they look like a bunch of street thugs who picked a fight with the wrong gang. And now, all you asshole Putin lovers can do, is try to overcomplicate this entire fuck fest into something it isn't. What line of complete bullshit are you going to go with next, the "Bilderberg Group"?

 

[pmclaine]

I reviewed the last three pages of this argument, and didn't see any re-mention of Ukraine being a money laundry for American (and others?) politicians. Did that get forgotten?
BTW, we have regular troops (Not just SF) in Latvia, Poland, and other regions/countries over there. That has been published openly in military journals and newspapers, and the usual other sources.

And the fact of that money laundering is why Biden will do naked hot yoga to appease Zelensky and make sure the secrets that have happened there since 2014 never see the light of day.

This tiny shit hole country owns us because our politicians and in many cases their kids were participating in corruption.

There are no white hats in this shit and the fact we are willing to bring the world to the brink of nuke use - while cheering it on - is insane and may make us the worst participant of all.

 

[Niles Coyote]

Anyone catch this Joe Rogan clip... pick up at 4:50

 

[GreenGO Juan]

I reviewed the last three pages of this argument, and didn't see any re-mention of Ukraine being a money laundry for American (and others?) politicians. Did that get forgotten?
BTW, we have regular troops (Not just SF) in Latvia, Poland, and other regions/countries over there. That has been published openly in military journals and newspapers, and the usual other sources.

What billions flowing into it unaccounted for... na. I trust them...

 

[Lostin89]

Putin bit off more than he could chew, period. And he is now getting his ass kicked directly because of it. I don't give a shit what you, or anyone else thinks the actual numbers are, or aren't. Or what the "source" is or isn't. Look at the clock.

The fact of the matter is Putin is bogged down. His army is in shambles. The morale of his men are in the shitter. He is now losing ground. His military is being fed into a shredder. His able bodied male citizens back home are running, all trying to avoid being drafted into this non stop shit show. That he, and he alone masterminded.

Again, look at the clock. It tells you all you need to know. He has zero support from the Russian citizens, who have all but completely turned against him. Before Putin shit all over himself, Russia was considered by many to be the second most powerful military on the planet.

Now they look like a bunch of street thugs who picked a fight with the wrong gang. And now, all you asshole Putin lovers can do, is try to overcomplicate this entire fuck fest into something it isn't. What line of complete bullshit are you going to go with next, the "Bilderberg Group"?

I looked at the clock. Read 0900, it also had a little note under it that said Fuck Ukraine and Fuck Russia.

It's almost like it didn't care what you had to say either, weird.

 

[Darayavaus]

You cite that, and as I stated above any and all killing of Russians post 2014 (as described above) is justified. They were occupying someone else's land and hence the Ukrainians had every right to deal with them in any way needed.

Fucking Redcoat. "your ancestral country is the King Land! How dare you violate the territorial integrity of his empire! you must die, rebel!"

In America, we once believed in the Declaration of Independence and fought a war when our government became intolerable and they would not let us separate. But most of the sheep reject that now, like they reject the right of self-determination in Donbas.

 

[billt]

I looked at the clock.

Perhaps you should take a class with the rest of your goombas so you can read it.

Analog clocks removed from schools because kids can't read them

Analog clocks are deemed a source of "unnecessary stress" during exams.

www.nbc12.com

 

[Darayavaus]

I wish it were that easy. I am sharing my, idealistic view. I know the real world doesn’t work like that.

I am surprised he didn’t see it for the trap that it is. I think he mis calculated NATOs willingness to step in. Seems he is doubling down. Will NATO follow suit??

NATOs "willingness"? no, it was *the plan*. provoke Russia with intolerable acts right on their border, then run an undeclared world war to destroy Russia.

It was almost ready to kick off under Obama, but then Trump came along. And since none of this bullshit benefits America, our MAGA president did not go along with it, although the deepstate continued to train and prepare in the background. Now that the Potato and his handlers are ruling America, it was right back to the original plan.

 

[Lostin89]

Perhaps you should take a class with the rest of your goombas so you can read it.

Analog clocks removed from schools because kids can't read them

Analog clocks are deemed a source of "unnecessary stress" during exams.

www.nbc12.com

Never go full retard

 

[GreenGO Juan]

NATOs "willingness"? no, it was *the plan*. provoke Russia with intolerable acts right on their border, then run an undeclared world war to destroy Russia.

It was almost ready to kick off under Obama, but then Trump came along. And since none of this bullshit benefits America, our MAGA president did not go along with it, although the deepstate continued to train and prepare in the background. Now that the Potato and his handlers are ruling America, it was right back to the original plan.

It benifits the US. By getting everyone to fight. Their markets crash, their infrastructure destroyed. Etc.

They’re instigating war to stay ahead

 

[Darayavaus]

And the fact of that money laundering is why Biden will do naked hot yoga to appease Zelensky and make sure the secrets that have happened there since 2014 never see the light of day.

This tiny shit hole country owns us because our politicians and in many cases their kids were participating in corruption.

There are no white hats in this shit and the fact we are willing to bring the world to the brink of nuke use - while cheering it on - is insane and may make us the worst participant of all.

since 2014, the NWO filled up the Ukrainian government with "their operatives". That's why (not even ethnically Ukrainian) cunts like Zelensky are pushing for more death. This is about the NWO and their bosses orders to them. If they cared about "the Ukrainian People" they wouldn't be shelling nuclear power plants.

Also remember, many of the anti-Trump ops came out of Ukraine. Zelensky despised Trump - he wouldn't even make eye contact with him. But he dry humps Bidens leg.

it's funny how some neocons are so lost in the past that they are still living out the cold war and talking about communism and destroying the USSR. Fuckers, you are the ones cheering on global communism and the death of America now.

 

[Darayavaus]

What billions flowing into it unaccounted for... na. I trust them...

exactly, and our rulers are giving them what......2 billion per month now? of our tax dollars.

remember that when you get audited next year and they take even more. Lets bankrupt America so we can bankroll the NWO's war of expansion

 

[Sako man]

Anyone catch this Joe Rogan clip... pick up at 4:50

Good find!

 

[UKDslayer]

going on and going to war are 2 very different things that are worlds apart. the us is not going to war with russia over ukraine

But a significant act of war has been done in the name of Ukraine that could potentially kill thousands of Europeans as collateral damage? To me, it looks like "crazy" Putin pulled up his big boy pants. He could have reacted much differently to Nordstream "events", while other leaders are still in diapers (literally).

 

[Peterpan]

if ukraine has recaptured ground held by russia it’s because the russians had no use for that ground anymore.

 

[supercorndogs]

exactly, and our rulers are giving them what......2 billion per month now? of our tax dollars.

remember that when you get audited next year and they take even more. Lets bankrupt America so we can bankroll the NWO's war of expansion

He is not getting audited, you are. Maybe you haven't noticed how this works. See also Louise Learner, but the alphabet boys are going to be used against political rivals. Not against federal agents that spread propaganda online for a living.

 

[D_TROS]

What were “we” winning in either instance?

war isnt about who is right...its about who is left. so we had more left? lol.


late to the party...
I dont really have an opinion yet but its very funky smelling. my rule of thumb is believe exact opposite of what the media tells us.


some interesting events:
-the ineptitude of the Rusky/commi depleted military
-the quickness that USA aided uk...almost like they were there waiting
-the quickness that the "world" labeled Russia the bad guy
-the quickness the media says you are a supporter of Russia if you dont support Uk (cant be neutral anymore) hints at larger things...
-the last several pres/affiliates/family association and deep connection in the politics of Ukraine that the media was all over blaming DJT for not more than a few years ago...quickly swept under rug
-i feel there is zero non biased reports of the war? or even a war side reporter?? this day and age and no better updates than random attack reports?
-the billions upon billons of our tax dollars sent over...like Id give a shit if Uk became part of Russia again?? any accountability for said $$ will nvr be made public knowledge or any plans for a repayment?? no such thing as a free meal...who is getting fed???

-the worse part. the scam that is the bank system. make magic $$$. sell it to the country, charge interest on it. brilliant. its better than making a disease then selling (forcing) you the cure.



anyone not room temp cant argue its crooked AF and the feeling of serious escalation is on the horizon. I simply do not believe this is a matter of border security. something bigger is on the horizon. i hope its not a NWO but that ship has probably sailed after the Civil war and maybe as late as WW1...


Regards
DT

 

[Darayavaus]

He is not getting audited, you are. Maybe you haven't noticed how this works. See also Louise Learner, but the alphabet boys are going to be used against political rivals. Not against federal agents that spread propaganda online for a living.

oh for certain. any anti-NWO dissidents will get audited. probably more.

Ukrainian “Hit list” Publishes names and addresses of alleged “Russian propagandists:” Turns out to be based not in Ukraine but in Langley VA where CIA headquarters is located​

Ukrainian “Hit list” Publishes names and addresses of alleged “Russian propagandists:” Turns out to be based not in Ukraine but in Langley VA where CIA headquarters is located | MR Online

Just a coincidence, right?

mronline.org

 

[xciapup]

I have close Ukrainian friends, they tell me actual Russian losses are about 89,000 med so far. They also mention that if Russia looses, some of the countries forced to be allied with Russia may try to break away.

Russia's plan for centuries is to own land out to through Poland or Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. Those countries realize that if UKR falls, they are next. So Poland is being extremely helpful to Ukraine. It really is a win/win for Poland. The war is not on their territory, and they are supplying money and/or equipment that they would otherwise have to use on their own soil.

Putin is a bully, and many bullies keep pushing, pushing, until someone pushes back and they get beat down. Hopefully his days are numbered.

Interesting war. Ukranian friends have power to send messages? Water. The bridges are not blown up. The government buildings, still standing. Power plants intact.

Photo ops with movie stars and the guy we installed. Hipsters dancing in Kiev at night. Very interesting war.

 

[billt]

if ukraine has recaptured ground held by russia it’s because the russians had no use for that ground anymore.

That is the biggest bunch of unadulterated bullshit I've heard yet from Putin lovers. Give back ground to your enemy, that you just spent blood and treasure fighting to take.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Oh really? Maybe you should read up on how many times that US military has done that very thing.

That is the biggest bunch of unadulterated bullshit I've heard yet from Putin lovers. Give back ground to your enemy, that you just spent blood and treasure fighting to take.

Start with the most recent in Afghanistan and Iraq.

 

[Emerson0311]

NATOs "willingness"? no, it was *the plan*. provoke Russia with intolerable acts right on their border, then run an undeclared world war to destroy Russia.

It was almost ready to kick off under Obama, but then Trump came along. And since none of this bullshit benefits America, our MAGA president did not go along with it, although the deepstate continued to train and prepare in the background. Now that the Potato and his handlers are ruling America, it was right back to the original plan.

The slant of the news and opinion articles this am says a big righteous war with lots of body bags coming home is the only moral thing to do. It’s so easy to see, but the soft idiot citizens in NA are stupid. This will be a real shitty deal.

 

[pmclaine]

The slant of the news and opinion articles this am says a big righteous war with lots of body bags coming home is the only moral thing to do. It’s so easy to see, but the soft idiot citizens in NA are stupid. This will be a real shitty deal.

It's razor thin which way America will go on this shitty deal.

This country has no credibility to stand on moral ideals.

If that is their argument for having your kid die in a European trench than you know they are lying to you and there is no benefit to anyone except the cabal.

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

<sarc> Hopefully we can count on nuclear winter to cancel out global warming. </sarc>

VooDoo

 

[JMGlasgow]

That is the biggest bunch of unadulterated bullshit I've heard yet from Putin lovers. Give back ground to your enemy, that you just spent blood and treasure fighting to take.

It happened in Vietnam all the time.