sad, but this is happening on both sides...
i also heard that protesters are getting conscription papers for their efforts.
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sad, but this is happening on both sides...
If all of western Ukraine goes Eu and these 4 regions currently under referendum turn Russia how is that not acceptable for both?
I wish it were that easy. I am sharing my, idealistic view. I know the real world doesn’t work like that.If only things were easy like that.
Honestly I thought Putin was smarter than all this. Instead he is doubling down on stupid.
no, NATO will not risk war for Ukraine is what I believe. Italy election is tellingI wish it were that easy. I am sharing my, idealistic view. I know the real world doesn’t work like that.
I am surprised he didn’t see it for the trap that it is. I think he mis calculated NATOs willingness to step in. Seems he is doubling down. Will NATO follow suit??
So where do you think they will stop? The Us is part of NATO and Biden has publicly stated that this will go on as long as it takes.no, NATO will not risk war for Ukraine is what I believe. Italy election is telling
going on and going to war are 2 very different things that are worlds apart. the us is not going to war with russia over ukraineSo where do you think they will stop? The Us is part of NATO and Biden has publicly stated that this will go on as long as it takes.
The players are the ones making the game.The West wants to destroy Russia once and for all and letting Ukraine do "the dirty work" while we send cold hard cash and weapons is a no brainer. If the Russians would succeed in getting the areas they want integrated into Russia/The new USSR then Ukraine is crippled and not worth spit to the Ukrainians nor The West.
The West/NATO wants to destroy Russia as they have for decades. Ukraine wants the living standards of The West and to be rid of Russia even if they have to "purge" a bunch of folks who want to align with Russia. Same as it ever has been. Wanna be a Russian?
Move to Russia. Wanna move towards the West? Kill yer neighbors and get rid of them. They'll never give in and they will undermine all attempts at moving Ukraine to where the NWO wants Ukraine to exist. The world is getting smaller every day. Get with "The Program" or get off the planet.
I hate The Game. Not The Players.
VooDoo
Sweden turned Right too. Immediately the news outlets shifted gears from Sweden Joining NATO to...no, NATO will not risk war for Ukraine is what I believe. Italy election is telling
Not believing for a single minute that the troops getting killed in droves (The Players) are making The Game - The Global Oligarchy and NWO is making the Game and deciding the rules and stakes. The Players are just dying . And not well.The players are the ones making the game.
What are you trying to prove? The Russian gov’t is authoritarian just like the US gov’t? That’s par for the course. One day you guys will understand that if gov’t was such a good thing for the people under it’s control, those at the top wouldn’t have to hire so many men (police) and give them guns pointed inwards to push it’s agenda for everyone’s own good.
No, but they were planning on it, we learned from the island hopping in the pacific that losses were always staggering in the war with Japan. Good for the planet that khrushchev pulled back. The danger here is that neither the West or Russia are backing away from this.We never invaded Cuba...
Zelensky has had a lot of opportunity to sue for peace, but the US/ Susan Rice, and UK/ Borris Johnson have said there shall be none. It's probable that Soros, and Schwab are really pushing hard for the war to continue. Russia is literally in a fight for it's existence as you say, and we move towards a UniPolar existence, kind of like the Federation in Star Trek. Russia stands in the way of the Neo Liberal Order. India, and the African nations better step in line or they face the same scrutiny.It'll be interesting to see what the future brings. If Ukraine loses they are done - If Russia loses they are done. Ukraine will be absorbed into Russia if they lose- Russia will disintegrate into states if they lose. I can see why the Russians are acting the way they are. They are threatened with their very existence. I can see why folks in Ukraine would rather align with the West. If I were Zelensky, would I want my nation to be more like The East or More like The West?
The West has a much better standard of living. The Russians share ethnicity and are of Ukraine as Ukraine has been part of Russia for years.
Shit's gonna get way more violent before it can possibly get better. Let's hope is does not spread.
VooDoo
IMO, it's either (a) a game of checkers, where Putin is making a strategic push for Russia's long-term sovereignty in this new unipolar global world reset that's being executed in real-time or (b) he's still carrying his WEF Young Global Leader membership card in his wallet, and playing his part to destroy Europe and others by depriving them of energy in support of that agenda.What’s the long term goal for Russia? If this is A Putin ego thing they lose. However, I was listening to a MI guy on Cleared Hot a couple weeks ago and he is convinced it’s a longer term plan.
Ukraine is the bread basket for the EU. They also produce most of the fertilizer for Africa. If Russia is to take the ports in Ukraine, they can shut off the food supply to Africa. A year or two of that and he proposed you’d see massive migration out of Africa and into the EU, overwhelming the economy’s and essentially eliminating EU NATO as a threat for decades at least.
If this second hypothesis is even close to real, and Russia wins the Donbas and the ports, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.
Not according to the Minsk Accords.You cite that, and as I stated above any and all killing of Russians post 2014 (as described above) is justified. They were occupying someone else's land and hence the Ukrainians had every right to deal with them in any way needed.
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Bay of Pigs... We kinda, totally half assedly did invade Cuba. Kennedy dropped the ball last minute which did not go over well with a “secret society”No, but they were planning on it, we learned from the island hopping in the pacific that losses were always staggering in the war with Japan. Good for the planet that khrushchev pulled back. The danger here is that neither the West or Russia are backing away from this.
Zelensky has had a lot of opportunity to sue for peace, but the US/ Susan Rice, and UK/ Borris Johnson have said there shall be none. It's probable that Soros, and Schwab are really pushing hard for the war to continue. Russia is literally in a fight for it's existence as you say, and we move towards a UniPolar existence, kind of like the Federation in Star Trek. Russia stands in the way of the Neo Liberal Order. India, and the African nations better step in line or they face the same scrutiny.
It's funny, but the globalists want Neo Global Communism, no oil, no beef, and one world order, with the end of all nation states. Basically everything that has never worked before in history, and will never work. Bad ideas recirculated like a turd stuck in the hamster wheel.
You give new meaning to the term, "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit".Lol, I know the logic is lost on you, as well your statement shows how little you know about the situation prior to the invasion. Everything black and white right....?
Putin bit off more than he could chew, period. And he is now getting his ass kicked directly because of it. I don't give a shit what you, or anyone else thinks the actual numbers are, or aren't. Or what the "source" is or isn't. Look at the clock.Your question is as relevant as picking the winner or looser in the 1st quarter in the superbowl.
Putin bit off more than he could chew, period. And he is now getting his ass kicked directly because of it. I don't give a shit what you, or anyone else thinks the actual numbers are, or aren't. Or what the "source" is or isn't. Look at the clock.
The fact of the matter is Putin is bogged down. His army is in shambles. The morale of his men are in the shitter. He is now losing ground. His military is being fed into a shredder. His able bodied male citizens back home are running, all trying to avoid being drafted into this non stop shit show. That he, and he alone masterminded.
Again, look at the clock. It tells you all you need to know. He has zero support from the Russian citizens, who have all but completely turned against him. Before Putin shit all over himself, Russia was considered by many to be the second most powerful military on the planet.
Now they look like a bunch of street thugs who picked a fight with the wrong gang. And now, all you asshole Putin lovers can do, is try to overcomplicate this entire fuck fest into something it isn't. What line of complete bullshit are you going to go with next, the "Bilderberg Group"?
And the fact of that money laundering is why Biden will do naked hot yoga to appease Zelensky and make sure the secrets that have happened there since 2014 never see the light of day.I reviewed the last three pages of this argument, and didn't see any re-mention of Ukraine being a money laundry for American (and others?) politicians. Did that get forgotten?
BTW, we have regular troops (Not just SF) in Latvia, Poland, and other regions/countries over there. That has been published openly in military journals and newspapers, and the usual other sources.
What billions flowing into it unaccounted for... na. I trust them...I reviewed the last three pages of this argument, and didn't see any re-mention of Ukraine being a money laundry for American (and others?) politicians. Did that get forgotten?
BTW, we have regular troops (Not just SF) in Latvia, Poland, and other regions/countries over there. That has been published openly in military journals and newspapers, and the usual other sources.
I looked at the clock. Read 0900, it also had a little note under it that said Fuck Ukraine and Fuck Russia.Putin bit off more than he could chew, period. And he is now getting his ass kicked directly because of it. I don't give a shit what you, or anyone else thinks the actual numbers are, or aren't. Or what the "source" is or isn't. Look at the clock.
The fact of the matter is Putin is bogged down. His army is in shambles. The morale of his men are in the shitter. He is now losing ground. His military is being fed into a shredder. His able bodied male citizens back home are running, all trying to avoid being drafted into this non stop shit show. That he, and he alone masterminded.
Again, look at the clock. It tells you all you need to know. He has zero support from the Russian citizens, who have all but completely turned against him. Before Putin shit all over himself, Russia was considered by many to be the second most powerful military on the planet.
Now they look like a bunch of street thugs who picked a fight with the wrong gang. And now, all you asshole Putin lovers can do, is try to overcomplicate this entire fuck fest into something it isn't. What line of complete bullshit are you going to go with next, the "Bilderberg Group"?
Fucking Redcoat. "your ancestral country is the King Land! How dare you violate the territorial integrity of his empire! you must die, rebel!"You cite that, and as I stated above any and all killing of Russians post 2014 (as described above) is justified. They were occupying someone else's land and hence the Ukrainians had every right to deal with them in any way needed.
Perhaps you should take a class with the rest of your goombas so you can read it.I looked at the clock.
NATOs "willingness"? no, it was *the plan*. provoke Russia with intolerable acts right on their border, then run an undeclared world war to destroy Russia.I wish it were that easy. I am sharing my, idealistic view. I know the real world doesn’t work like that.
I am surprised he didn’t see it for the trap that it is. I think he mis calculated NATOs willingness to step in. Seems he is doubling down. Will NATO follow suit??
Never go full retardPerhaps you should take a class with the rest of your goombas so you can read it.
Analog clocks removed from schools because kids can't read them
Analog clocks are deemed a source of "unnecessary stress" during exams.www.nbc12.com
It benifits the US. By getting everyone to fight. Their markets crash, their infrastructure destroyed. Etc.NATOs "willingness"? no, it was *the plan*. provoke Russia with intolerable acts right on their border, then run an undeclared world war to destroy Russia.
It was almost ready to kick off under Obama, but then Trump came along. And since none of this bullshit benefits America, our MAGA president did not go along with it, although the deepstate continued to train and prepare in the background. Now that the Potato and his handlers are ruling America, it was right back to the original plan.
since 2014, the NWO filled up the Ukrainian government with "their operatives". That's why (not even ethnically Ukrainian) cunts like Zelensky are pushing for more death. This is about the NWO and their bosses orders to them. If they cared about "the Ukrainian People" they wouldn't be shelling nuclear power plants.And the fact of that money laundering is why Biden will do naked hot yoga to appease Zelensky and make sure the secrets that have happened there since 2014 never see the light of day.
This tiny shit hole country owns us because our politicians and in many cases their kids were participating in corruption.
There are no white hats in this shit and the fact we are willing to bring the world to the brink of nuke use - while cheering it on - is insane and may make us the worst participant of all.
exactly, and our rulers are giving them what......2 billion per month now? of our tax dollars.What billions flowing into it unaccounted for... na. I trust them...
Anyone catch this Joe Rogan clip... pick up at 4:50
going on and going to war are 2 very different things that are worlds apart. the us is not going to war with russia over ukraine
He is not getting audited, you are. Maybe you haven't noticed how this works. See also Louise Learner, but the alphabet boys are going to be used against political rivals. Not against federal agents that spread propaganda online for a living.exactly, and our rulers are giving them what......2 billion per month now? of our tax dollars.
remember that when you get audited next year and they take even more. Lets bankrupt America so we can bankroll the NWO's war of expansion
What were “we” winning in either instance?
He is not getting audited, you are. Maybe you haven't noticed how this works. See also Louise Learner, but the alphabet boys are going to be used against political rivals. Not against federal agents that spread propaganda online for a living.
Interesting war. Ukranian friends have power to send messages? Water. The bridges are not blown up. The government buildings, still standing. Power plants intact.I have close Ukrainian friends, they tell me actual Russian losses are about 89,000 med so far. They also mention that if Russia looses, some of the countries forced to be allied with Russia may try to break away.
Russia's plan for centuries is to own land out to through Poland or Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. Those countries realize that if UKR falls, they are next. So Poland is being extremely helpful to Ukraine. It really is a win/win for Poland. The war is not on their territory, and they are supplying money and/or equipment that they would otherwise have to use on their own soil.
Putin is a bully, and many bullies keep pushing, pushing, until someone pushes back and they get beat down. Hopefully his days are numbered.
That is the biggest bunch of unadulterated bullshit I've heard yet from Putin lovers. Give back ground to your enemy, that you just spent blood and treasure fighting to take.if ukraine has recaptured ground held by russia it’s because the russians had no use for that ground anymore.
Start with the most recent in Afghanistan and Iraq.That is the biggest bunch of unadulterated bullshit I've heard yet from Putin lovers. Give back ground to your enemy, that you just spent blood and treasure fighting to take.
The slant of the news and opinion articles this am says a big righteous war with lots of body bags coming home is the only moral thing to do. It’s so easy to see, but the soft idiot citizens in NA are stupid. This will be a real shitty deal.NATOs "willingness"? no, it was *the plan*. provoke Russia with intolerable acts right on their border, then run an undeclared world war to destroy Russia.
It was almost ready to kick off under Obama, but then Trump came along. And since none of this bullshit benefits America, our MAGA president did not go along with it, although the deepstate continued to train and prepare in the background. Now that the Potato and his handlers are ruling America, it was right back to the original plan.
The slant of the news and opinion articles this am says a big righteous war with lots of body bags coming home is the only moral thing to do. It’s so easy to see, but the soft idiot citizens in NA are stupid. This will be a real shitty deal.
It happened in Vietnam all the time.That is the biggest bunch of unadulterated bullshit I've heard yet from Putin lovers. Give back ground to your enemy, that you just spent blood and treasure fighting to take.