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Russia's Staggering Losses In Ukraine
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Russia is fighting the NWO in it's entirety, including the European NATO states and the US military - which has now become the Red Army of the NWO. We give them vast amounts of money, weapons, and instant satellite intel....the hohols are only providing the meat targets and an excuse.
There is no possible way the Russians can hold the ground with the odds they are up against. That is why there will be nukes, unless DC assassinates Putin and the Russian government first (and installs puppets to rule them against their will, just like what they did here)
when it's all over, Russia will not exist as an independent state; it will be run by the same ***s who own us, assimilated by the NWO Borg just like we were. That's why Russia had to fight in the first place.
Russia has annexed the areas it wanted - the profitable areas that enhance the reunification of the old USSR. So now they are Russian Territory and if anyone tries to free them /reclaim them then Russia is of the mindset that Mother Russia is being attacked (there are now NATO troops on Russian Motherland) and a lot of Russians will be OK with "boom boom, out goes the lights" and going into WWIII mode and deploying nukes, tactical and strategic, in defense of Mother Russia. I have a buddy who does business in Ukaraine and Russia and talks to people in these areas weekly as they are customers of his - yes, there are thousands fleeing Russia to avoind being called up. They are dwarfed by the number of people lining up at recruitment centers to become troops. Russians thinks there is a movement to destroy Russia and The Motherland and their Way of life.
So far it has been a Military action to free Ukraine areas that are held by Nazis. Russia wants to preserve Russian speaking patriots and bring them back into the Russian fold. Once they are again Mother Russia then any and all actions are justified in defending them against NATO.
Russia is just getting started. Now they have incorporated/ assimilated areas in Ukraine and made them part of Mother Russia and anyone who tries to liberate or reoccupy these zones is just like trying to invade Moscow. Ugly shit. Watch for the tactical flash. This thing is not winding down. It's just getting started.
VooDoo
So far it has been a Military action to free Ukraine areas that are held by Nazis. Russia wants to preserve Russian speaking patriots and bring them back into the Russian fold. Once they are again Mother Russia then any and all actions are justified in defending them against NATO.
Russia is just getting started. Now they have incorporated/ assimilated areas in Ukraine and made them part of Mother Russia and anyone who tries to liberate or reoccupy these zones is just like trying to invade Moscow. Ugly shit. Watch for the tactical flash. This thing is not winding down. It's just getting started.
VooDoo
Europe for the most part has cooled its jets on this one, compared to four months ago at least. The Brits are still moving along but the new PM has some misgivings and I bet they will be pulling back more. We are the major purveyors of this thing. It's really the Biden/Bama administration vs. Putin.
Shits going down in Serbia right now, Nato has no moral high ground on that one either if you look at the history of the conflict there.
Yeah wasn't too long ago that Serbia was the Nazis and Ethnic Cleansing and all that stuff. Then it went POOF and back to the Mideast.
Running a train on Steve’s mom
Serbia is getting heat from Nato for not backing the sanctions on Russia. So the EU is fucking with them. Ya see, Serbia has recent memories of Nato jets leveling cities because Serbs have their own ideas. A massive media campaign against Serbia had most of the world believing that they were all Nazis. Same stuff being pulled on Russia.
We're you born after 1999? Nato missles and bombs killed thousands of civilians in the former Yougoslavia.Lol, Nato jets leveling serb cities, ha ha ha.... nice
NATO bombing of Yugoslavia - Wikipedia
Is that all you got? No really, I bring the facts, and you bring the 5th grade insults. So in all seriousness let's hear your facts. If you have some alternate version of the truth let's hear it, otherwise probably best to GTFO.
Putin just got his ass kicked out of Lyman. I can hear the neo Nazi Putin sock puppets bitching and moaning already..... As the Putin ass kicking continues. Here comes still more whining about the street thugs going nuclear. Yeah, right.
www.foxnews.com
Putin ally recommends Russia use low-yield nuclear weapons in Ukraine
Chechen leader and Putin ally Ramzan Kadyrov said Saturday that Russia should consider using low-yield nuclear weapons in its war against Ukraine.
www.foxnews.com
Oldlooser, is that you???? Or is it steve podleski?...Putin just got his ass kicked out of Lyman. I can hear the neo Nazi Putin sock puppets bitching and moaning already..... As the Putin ass kicking continues. Here comes still more whining about the street thugs going nuclear. Yeah, right.
Putin ally recommends Russia use low-yield nuclear weapons in Ukraine
Chechen leader and Putin ally Ramzan Kadyrov said Saturday that Russia should consider using low-yield nuclear weapons in its war against Ukraine.
It's like a clone factory. Same language, same points, same insults. Just spewing propaganda over and over and if you dare to deviate from the mainstream narrative - you are a "putin lover".
You're just upset because your little KGB pussy king has to wipe yet another load of snot from his nose. Look at the bright side, you'll live through it... He won't.Oldlooser, is that you???? Or is it steve podleski?...
It's like a clone factory. Same language, same points, same insults. Just spewing propaganda over and over and if you dare to deviate from the mainstream narrative - you are a "putin lover".
I will repeat - " and if you dare to deviate from the mainstream narrative - you are a "putin lover""You're just upset because your little KGB pussy king has to wipe yet another load of snot from his nose. Look at the bright side, you'll live through it... He won't.
Thank you for proving my point.
Add to that gobo-homo obsession - cannot make a single post without mentioning sucking dicks or such. What a disgusting human being.
Fuck ukraine.
Our leaders want/need WWIII to keep from getting thrown out.
Our leaders want/need WWIII to keep from getting thrown out.
serbia is also getting grief because they are allowing gatherings to celebrate tradional values and reject deviant sexual preferences.
He posts noting of substance in any other forums. Troll accout.Oldlooser, is that you???? Or is it steve podleski?...
It's like a clone factory. Same language, same points, same insults. Just spewing propaganda over and over and if you dare to deviate from the mainstream narrative - you are a "putin lover".
steve's posts are like listening to that one chord from Dueling Banjos, over and over.
militaries do it all the time dude. read a book on vietnam. if you can’t read watch a show on it. it’s all about inflicting casualties not occupying worthless ground.
i can’t believe anyone buys into this bullshit that ukraine is beating russia back.
you don’t think putin has an exact copy of himself to replace him if he is taken out? biden’s puppet master took out the pipelines because ukraine and their backers aren’t winning shit. if they were winning like the fake news says why would they take out the pipeline. it’s not a secret as to who blew that shit up lol.
Anyone else on pins and needles waiting for what the West's/NATO's response will be to a low yield tactical nuke detonated above Ukraine to destroy communications and send "The Message" that the gloves are off? Anyone? What do we think NATO will do when the first tactical nuke is actually detonated in Ukraine? Pee their pants? Suggest that Ukraine surrender? Push more "Sanctions" against Russia?
When Putin pops the cork what do ya'll think will happen?
VooDoo
When Putin pops the cork what do ya'll think will happen?
VooDoo
Unfortunately the NWO couldn't care less about human life. All of this was a long plan to see Russia eradicated. So why would it matter to them if they also irradiated the region....in fact, they would probably prefer to see Russia nuked. In a couple of hundred years they'll just repopulate the place with "immigrants" ...... along with the rest of the northern hemisphere.
I think NWO is as in the dark about what will happen if that happens.
They think they know what we will do and I am guessing covid was a test for how well we will obey when they begin barking orders in response to such a thing happening.
God please give us a set of balls by then to stop this.
Scary shit on the horizon, not smart to back a killer into the corner.
I think that's a conceivable plan as well from those creeps. However "man plans, and God laughs." Thus there will always be something that gets in the way....I hope..
don't care and we need to stay the fk out. This is Russia's business and if the EU wasn't so dependent on their energy, it wouldn't be their issue either. Let them deal with it, low grade tac nuke does nothing to us
Whatever Russia's losses, the Ukraine's on a per capita, have been much worse. The failure of the West to think this through and have an end game in mind works to Russia's and China's advantage the longer it goes on and risks widening of the conflict.
When the Ukrainians retook the West Bank of the Dniepr they should have sued for peace. As ugly as it was.
Once Russia fixes its issues, its sheer size will overwhelm what remains of Ukraine's manpower. And China may say WTF let's get this started by focusing on Asia land conquest rather than attack us in the Pacific like Japan did to their great detriment.
When the Ukrainians retook the West Bank of the Dniepr they should have sued for peace. As ugly as it was.
Once Russia fixes its issues, its sheer size will overwhelm what remains of Ukraine's manpower. And China may say WTF let's get this started by focusing on Asia land conquest rather than attack us in the Pacific like Japan did to their great detriment.
As of February 10, 2023, Russia had lost 295 fighter jets in the war and 286 helicopters.
That sounds like anything but an "advantage".
whats your source on that?
US lost 36 fixed winged aircraft in 2 months of desert storm.
If ya x that by 6… its over 200. Just saying…Nobody stepped in to bail out Iraq. Or replace their air defense systems.
Ukraine’s air-force is the one in shambles, not Russia. Only thing propping it up has been on the wests EBT card.
There are several sources all over the Internet. Pick the one that suits you best. We defeated Saddam. Russia has not defeated anyone. They've been bogged down in this clusterfuck for over a year. Ukraine hasn't needed an air force. They're too busy shooting down Russia's.
No super power bailed out Iraq. 43 nations against one, still had a loss rate on par with Russia, which is closer to 200 fixed winged.
Your 300 source is from the Ukrainian Gov… not necessarily reliable.
Ukraine has been begging for an airforce… they definitely want one. Edit- a free one…
That same group of nations came to prop up ukraine.
It ain’t Ukraine doing this. If Ukraine fought this solo, this would have been over, a year ago.
It ain’t Ukraine doing this. If Ukraine fought this solo, this would have been over, a year ago.
Russia has a population of 180 million vs Ukraine's 40 million. Russia's youth is till in Russia while much of the Ukraine's left for Europe.
Russia also has intact conventional arms factories staffed and working and the world's largest raw minerals production. It also has interior LOC and a very good transport system, excellent schools, and most Russians are still very patriotic.
The War is in the attrition phase and Russia is attriting Ukrainian manpower.
Ukraine has not the manpower or equipment to envelop the Russian salient. That would require four combat brigade teams with all the tanks, mech inf, attack helicopters, artillery, and CAS, as well as the logistics to make that happen - and an assault into cross wise rising terrain.
Instead they are being ground down and dancing to Russia's tune.
I'm not sure the West or Ukraine has a winnable strategy as this point. They did from summer of 22 to winter of 23 but the lack of an end game has meant that window is closed.
As far as I can see the only clear thinking up to this point has been taking the West Bank of the Dnieper which allows Ukraine to control the Black Sea and the air above it. I think Zelensky is now captive to the West's strategic aims and not his.
"We defeated Saddam" in 2003 yet we were still fighting in Iraq for how many more years? Did we really "win" or "defeat" anyone? Maybe the elite got rich off an extended conflict.
Why do you think President Cheney and his boy, George, started the war in Iraq?
Answer:
Cheney had been the CEO of Haliburton before VP. Haliburton then got a NO COMPETITION CONTRACT to rebuild what we destroyed. A his defense contractor buddies got fat.
It was all about the money.
Fuck Dick Cheney
Fuck little George
Fuck Joe Biden
I don't need sources that are mostly wrong. I got professional training on this thanks to the US Army.
Saddam defeated Iran in the Spring and Summer of 88 with five successive combined arms operations using Russian equipment and doctrine.
He took Kuwait and could have taken Saudi Arabia.
Egypt took and crossed the Suez in 1973 and very nearly took all of Israel.
Russia successfully invaded Afghanistan in 1979.
Russia successfully kicked the West out of a number of countries by supporting leftist revolutionaries. Cuba, Rhodesia, and Nicaragua come to mind.
We nearly lost the Korean War. Twice. Thank God for General Smith's deep expertise.
Russia directly built the NORK military and trained them.
And Greece very nearly fell in the 50s.
We lost Vietnam and we just got our butts kicked out of Afghanistan.
China is an adversary now. China builds and deploys more hulls in the Pacific each year than we do in five and they are building 1000 C17 clones which can be used only for expeditionary aggression.
Explain to me how we are so awesome.
Everything comes down to logistics including manpower and then strategy. Realistic planning and execution.
Explain to me how our strategy today NOW will end the war in the Ukraine in our favor. It can't. We don't even have a VII Corps sized force in Europe any more. No one does. We don't have deep war stocks in Europe anymore nor the means to even build them up - for the next two years.
Nor does Ukraine. And they never will.
One liners are all you have. Not sane realistic appraisals.
if russia is doing so poorly, why is zelensky and the "west" saying he will roll over nato if he is allowed to win in ukraine?
Any idea’s on a path to ceases fighting? I 100% agree the river makes a decent natural barrier. But half the current fairly static front line is across the country side.
Do you see any means for an internationally supported deconfliction line? With a realistic security garrentee, for both sides? Who could would enforce it. Or is that just wishful thinking at this point?
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