Shot Show 2025 Rumours

[jthor]

That's his point. we're paying an ultra-premium for kestrel and AB devices but ultimately it's all the same as the $30 app minus a few critical functions they chose to lock you out of.

Most of the LRF have their own enviro now and the wind feature of the kestrel is hardly worth 700 more than the app. If I could bluetooth my sig to my phone AB app i would have no use for a $700 kestrel

Exactly my point

 

[Eric32]

That's some bullshit

 

[Darryle]

Browning sucks- I’m about to sell all my new gen brownings and pick up some benellis.

I love Browning, but they are ran by some social media idiot, I haven't used a Browning shotgun since I retired my Mag 12 Stalker. I rock a cheap 28ga Tristar Viper G2 Bronze.

Franchi can make the AL48 in 28ga, how hard would it be to use 125yo technology?

 

[ToddM]

Browning sucks- I’m about to sell all my new gen brownings and pick up some benellis.

Probably unlikely with Benelli, but pray to every god you can think of that you never have to deal with the shit show that is Beretta CS/Warranty

 

[ToddM]

Kestrel is pricing themselves out of competiton on many products
Magnetospeed T1000 is getting ridiculously expensive, Magnetospeed chrony is kinda dead since Garmin Xero, Kestrel timer 300$ uff , Kestrel 5700 on a trajectory to 1000$ (in Europe its well past 1200$) for a device that is technologically like 90's electronics.

Agreed, Kestrel started as a company making scientific products that could be and were calibrated for field use measurements. Most were probably used (and priced for) government or gov funded efforts. In the mid 90's when they came out they were the only game in town and cutting edge. Still great today, but as much as people raged about LabRadar not innovating their product in the first 5 years.....the Kestrel really hasn't advanced (aside ballistic software) in function, quality of display, etc. much since the 4000 model came out almost 25 years ago. kestrel (and really Garmin and many companies) have been knee capping features to create artificial product tiers for decades. Now of course most of the rage with Labradar was because the product software didn't work well, but you can hardly say Kestrel has innovated their handheld weather meter in 20+ years.

That said, it's hard to complain about pricing in a hobby where people are lining up to spend spend $2000 for a tripod setup, $1000 for bipods, $800 for scope mounts, $400 for a canvas gun bag, $400 for steel chassis weighs, $250 for muzzle brakes, $200 for a canvas shooting bag.....the list goes on.

Companies like Kestrel and Sig with their sub $1000 products, must wake up in the morning and see things like that and come to the realization that their products are clearly underpriced. I can just see Sig's meetings "WTF are we doing, we're making a binocular with a 6000yd RF built in for $800 with ballistics, temp, humidity, and pressure sensors built in, that talks to our scopes and other devices and these guys are spending $1000 for a bipod!"