Shot Show 2025 Rumours

Manners released a new folding stock, the Pro Pack Hunter, 31oz

E: Instagram post wont link, it’s @mannersstocks most recent post

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The MDT link says, "Adding to their Soft Goods lineup, MDT is launching The Champion, a shooting pack purpose-built for long-range shooting competitions, which will give match shooters the ability to move, pack, and work from the same position before each stage."

Sounds interesting. Is it a backpack or a range office type deal?

Backpack, retail is ~$300.
 
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I'll probably get one of these, my only gripe is that it doesn't appear to be able to take any kind of Arca in front of the mag well. They were able to pull it off with the ESS but I'm not sure what they could do here.

There are 2 m-lok slots at 9:00 in front of the magwell, so it should be as simple as adding a section of m-lok compatible arca rail.
 
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It's just a PH with a folder, so 26oz + 7oz for the chassis/folder


From the comments on Manner's instagram post:

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Molded in ARCA on the folder probably saves just a bit of weight over the aluminum ARCA on the regular PH.

Personally, I lean towards preferring a replaceable aluminum ARCA (even if it is a little heavier than molded in) as it's easy to swap if you happen to get one that's a little out of spec and is a little loose if you run a non-adjustable lever clamp like a 1st gen RRS Anvil, or if you somehow damage the rail. Much easier to swap a rail than replace/exchange a stock, but there are tradeoffs for the lightest design.

While I really like the LRH I picked up about a month ago and was planning on ordering a second one, now I'm trying to decide if I want to order one of these folders instead of the second LRH, or sell the one LRH I already have and get 2 of these folders instead... I knew I should have waited until after SHOT to pick up the stock, I was hoping the LRH-TK and TCS-Max were the only surprises Manners had up their sleeve this year, lol.

Going to wait to hear some feedback from the early adopters how the hinge lockup is before I decide what to order though. Hopefully it's solid and doesn't have any flex/wiggle/rattle.
 
Apparently Athlon is dropping a Xero clone at $350 MSRP. Info from Reddit.

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Honestly if it picks up shots as well as a Garmin and they have a better interface that allows you to exit and reenter shot strings, this could be a winner. I'm not going to rush out and grab one but I'm interested.
 
Honestly if it picks up shots as well as a Garmin and they have a better interface that allows you to exit and reenter shot strings, this could be a winner. I'm not going to rush out and grab one but I'm interested.
I don’t see one in my future, but I’m leaving the possibility open. It’s a little funny the market was basically there for the taking for compact, affordable radars for years. Garmin came in and dominated, now suddenly competitors keep popping up.
 
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No info yet, sorry.

ADG Arc Annealer, automated induction, no other info
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ARC Annealer is imported from South Africa.



Here's a draft copy of the user manual from when I contacted them a year ago.
 

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that's comeptitve with the case feeder. I was hoping tthey would undercut the amp but it's a fair price given the market. I suspect a lot of people will sell the amp to go with this barring any large issues.
Meh. I have zero reason to sell my AMP and automation for this. Might be tempting for new buyers if they have some equivalent of AMP's Aztec.
 
Meh. I have zero reason to sell my AMP and automation for this. Might be tempting for new buyers if they have some equivalent of AMP's Aztec.
I've heard very few people recommend or speak highly if the amp-mate, especially when you need to add a case feeder. if you already have an automation solution (albeit an extremely expesnive one) then that's great. but i think the automation built into this will be very popular
 
I've heard very few people recommend or speak highly if the amp-mate, especially when you need to add a case feeder. if you already have an automation solution (albeit an extremely expesnive one) then that's great. but i think the automation built into this will be very popular
Yeah the AMP-Mate is rather complex and expensive for sure. I haven't had issues with it, but I know plenty of guys that have. I ended up making my own case feeder to go on top so I'm not into it as much as others.

We'll see. If it has some form of reliable automatic setting determination, it'll probably be popular. If it doesn't, I think it'll end up being too complicated for the average end user.
 
Yeah the AMP-Mate is rather complex and expensive for sure. I haven't had issues with it, but I know plenty of guys that have. I ended up making my own case feeder to go on top so I'm not into it as much as others.

We'll see. If it has some form of reliable automatic setting determination, it'll probably be popular. If it doesn't, I think it'll end up being too complicated for the average end user.
The manual above suggests it has a sacrificial testing and set like the amp - I agree that is a criticial function at this price point.

Plus this doesn't have expensive pilots and comes with everything to run up to 338 which is pretty cool! looks like they have risers you use to set the height as it goes in base head down.
 
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if they have some equivalent of AMP's Aztec
I wouldn't be too surprised if they provide codes/times for their brass but no one else haha

ADG will sell well to hunting crowd, but I really don't think it poses any real threat to AMP (particularly given ADG's price point and that AMP has done a good job establishing their product as the gold standard). Sometimes competing products can expand markets faster than they can capture said expansion, too.

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I'm guessing you had to set up some sort of automation, not just gravity fed?

Pelican released a poppy pushy DAKA competitor


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Don't really see a point for rifles, but whatever floats your boat. Maybe for a small multipurpose case that you're using to transport NODs, thermal, etc.
 
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I wouldn't be too surprised if they provide codes/times for their brass but no one else haha

ADG will sell well to hunting crowd, but I really don't think it poses any real threat to AMP (particularly given ADG's price point and that AMP has done a good job establishing their product as the gold standard). Sometimes competing products can expand markets faster than they can capture said expansion, too.


I'm guessing you had to set up some sort of automation, not just gravity fed?

Pelican released a poppy pushy DAKA competitor


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Don't really see a point for rifles, but whatever floats your boat. Maybe for a small multipurpose case that you're using to transport NODs, thermal, etc.

This fucks.
 
Honestly if it picks up shots as well as a Garmin and they have a better interface that allows you to exit and reenter shot strings, this could be a winner. I'm not going to rush out and grab one but I'm interested.
I don't think many will just dump a Garmin to test it...but it'll put a major pinch in the market that Garmin used to have a strangle hold on.
I expect a Garmin Gen2 and the rest of the market will have to either drop price or add features.
New buyers that waited might be 2nd guessing the Garmin now...I know I would