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[Bigwheels]

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Hey TSI. Your match full yet? I have to go the Sunny Side again anyway, so I might as well do a shoot on the way. I'll be running the 300WM with 225's, if you let me....

 

[Unknown]

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Look like I'll finally be able to make the September shoot. I'm looking forward to something other than shooting at a club with benches, and range limits.

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey TSI. Your match full yet? I have to go the Sunny Side again anyway, so I might as well do a shoot on the way. I'll be running the 300WM with 225's, if you let me....</div></div> I think we have around 25 for Saturday and just under twenty for sunday. I can always make room for u jeff and yes u can shoot the 300wm but that is absolute max cartridge for the match.

To answer some other questions, well basic rule is if you are willing to pack it all day u can use it, accept for a stage or two that requires unsupported shooting. There won't be any unkown distance targets but also I won't give you. Exact distances so u either have to mil or use a range finder or get them from fellow competitor.

As per my standard there will be some shoot move shoot stages along with some new obstacles and barracades.

 

[Bigwheels]

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Cool. Put me down as a maybe for Sat.

 

[Unknown]

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I'm in for saturday. Where do I send the entry fee?

 

[*Nine]

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Did Benchmark get a new phone number? I tried calling them this morning and it says their number has been disconnected and is no longer in service.

 

[Bigwheels]

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The number worked for me this morning.
360-652-2594

 

[*Nine]

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Weird, it works for me now too. I tried calling from my cell phone this morning and from my office phone and they both gave me the disconnect message. Oh well, it's all good now. Thanks.

 

[Mayday]

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Hey PatM your PM's are full. Im still in Russia so i have no cell service.

 

[mjh30]

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Damn Brian you do get around

 

[JC Steel]

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brian you still flying back tomorrow??? Still want to ride with me??

 

[JC Steel]

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who wants to go golfing tomorrow???

 

[Bigwheels]

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Rifle Golf? I'm IN!
What time do you want to meet up on Sat?
Supposed to be sunny, & 75 with wind @ 5-10.

 

[JC Steel]

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how about 9?

 

[Unknown]

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What is the altitude of the area where the Ellensburg shoot will be?

 

[Bigwheels]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jcvibby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">how about 9? </div></div>
Ok. See you up there. I'll be @ the 750yd spot.

 

[DIBBS]

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I stumbled onto this pro gun list of news articles from the seattle examiner. I posted a link in the 2nd Amendment section, but thought I would share it with folks here too. Enjoy!

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-seattle

 

[Mayday]

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Yes, i do. Hehe Moscow is a great place, even more in the summer time.

 

[DIBBS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unknown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is the altitude of the area where the Ellensburg shoot will be? </div></div>

I've got an elevation of 2561 feet, according to my Garmin GPS, and a distance of about 160 miles from my present location.

Approximate coordinates: Dangit try these instead!
<span style="text-decoration: line-through">N 46*56.634'</span> <span style="font-weight: bold"> N 46*53.633 minutes
</span><span style="text-decoration: line-through">W 120*33.992' </span> <span style="font-weight: bold">W 120*33.927 minutes</span>

 

[Mayday]

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Sorry Jake. I will not be home in time. The trip got delayed. Plus i am dealing with Hurricane Irene coming home, so it might get pushed out even further.

 

[*Nine]

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I got the TRG-42 back today, this time as a .284 I'm gonna get a load worked up this weekend and I'll be ready to sling some lead at Scott's match!

 

[DIBBS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Market Garden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got the TRG-42 back today, this time as a .284 I'm gonna get a load worked up this weekend and I'll be ready to sling some lead at Scott's match! </div></div>

<span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Nice looking stick!!! Hope you get a tack driving load worked up- are you going to do a ladder or OCW test? Do we have an approximate round count for the Course of Fire for the September shoot? I gotta get some shells loaded myself! </span>

 

[*Nine]

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I've only got 100 yards, so no OCW or ladder test before the match, but maybe after the match I will.

 

[ranger1183]

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I hope a lot of people show up for Scott's Field Shooters Challenge. I've been scheduled to attend with one of our flagship products. Also a prize for the winners table (very cool product, if I say so myself!). Now lets hope everything goes as planned.

 

[Unknown]

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Dibbs,
I must be entering the coordinates wrong into Google. It comes out with a location outside of Yakima. I thought the shoot was near Ellensburg...

I have an extra rifle if anyone wants to borrow a TRG22 with a Leupold Mk4 4.5-14x50 with TMR reticle.

 

[DIBBS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unknown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dibbs,
I must be entering the coordinates wrong into Google. It comes out with a location outside of Yakima. </div></div>

Shit, I must have dyslexia...I double checked and looks like I wasn't even close. Maybe I gave you a secret elk wallow...

N 46*53.633 minutes
W 120*33.927 minutes

 

[-Nick-]

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I was going to try and go, but the guy who sold me the ST-10 here apparently took my $1390 and disappeared after allegedly mailing it. Does anyone know if there's any good meets in October or November? Hopefully by then I can get some cheap optics and join you all for some tutoring...

 

[264win]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was going to try and go, but the guy who sold me the ST-10 here apparently took my $1390 and disappeared after allegedly mailing it. Does anyone know if there's any good meets in October or November? Hopefully by then I can get some cheap optics and join you all for some tutoring...

</div></div>

I have a bushnell elite 3200 mil/mil and a weaver 3.5-10 tactical mil/mil you are welcome to use. Nothing fancy, but I have confirmed the tracking on both and they get the job done.

 

[Bigwheels]

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Well Jake, & I had some fun today up @ Acme. Zero'd his 300 RUM, & then proceeded to bang steel with my 300WM, & 225's, & his 338 Edge. All I can say about that Edge is WOW! Talk about a HAMMER! That thing was spinning the 525 yd steel around like a bicycle wheel! Maybe I have to get me one of those...
We got good dope for him, & enough data for me to finally (I HOPE) get my FFS/PDA in sync with these 225's. It was HOT! I was reading about 80* by 3:00, & the mirage was awful, but we still got on target @ 1250 yd, & were making some consecutive hits out there. The mirage got so bad finally that the target appeared to be moving about 2 moa left/right in the wind, & about 1 moa up, & down with the heat. All in all, a good day.

 

[JC Steel]

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Yeah it was tons of fun!!!

I have that video but have no idea on how I can get it onto an electronic form. It has a little tape so I will have to figure that out.

I did get one video of Jeff's three shots in a row on target at 1250 though. Pretty cool considering the heat was so bad the target looked like double vison!!! super blurry...

It was really good to get some real world dope on the 338 edge thouhg, Lets see if I can hit something while I am up in alaska next week!!!

 

[Bigwheels]

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Jake. To get the vid posted you have to download it to you tube 1st, & then post the link here. Just like you would do with a pic on photo bucket.
Anyway. GOOD LUCK on your hunt. I'm verry jealous. Bring back an 80" moose!, Or TWO!

 

[*Nine]

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I did a little load work this morning with the 162 AMAX at about 2990FPS. My worst group was under .75" and the best group was under .5" I figure that'll work pretty well for matches.

 

[Bigwheels]

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When you get it all dialed in, come on up, & we'll test it out on some range. Jake, & I just cut the firing lane for 1250 yesterday. Should only need some trimming for a few weeks.

 

[JC Steel]

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you mean JAKE cut the firing lane!!!

 

[*Nine]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When you get it all dialed in, come on up, & we'll test it out on some range. Jake, & I just cut the firing lane for 1250 yesterday. Should only need some trimming for a few weeks.</div></div>

Are you going to be out there next weekend by any chance? My mother in law is coming for a couple of days and I'd be glad yo get away for a day.

 

[Bigwheels]

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OK.

Jake cut the firing lane. I did the finishing touches.

 

[Unknown]

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Will a 260 REM using 123 grain scenars at around 3060 fps hit the steel hard enough at those distances so that anyone can tell, or should I use a 300 win mag with 190's?

 

[JC Steel]

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Bigs I about past out!!!

Unknown I really like the idea of 260 Rem running those 123's, I have heard good things about them. A good spotter with be able to see a hit anyways. I hope at least.

ALTHOUGH, when a 300 WM hits a target you definetly know its hit hard.

Another thing to thing about is that most matches wont let the 300 WM in the competition, some will but some wont. 260 can be in everywhere I think.

Jake

 

[SScott]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unknown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Will a 260 REM using 123 grain scenars at around 3060 fps hit the steel hard enough at those distances so that anyone can tell, or should I use a 300 win mag with 190's? </div></div>
The 123's are a bit light, and you might not get a hit counted as such, ( I'm going to RO for the match and I have bad eyes and can't hear real well), and where we shoot the 300 win mags do real well becasue there always seems to be plenty of wind as the day goes on.
SScott

 

[Jim the Plumber]

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I use the 123MK at ~2925 out of my 6.5x47L. It does just fine out to 1350+.
The two main drawbacks to the magnums in competitions are busting targets and having to shut down the match for ALL the shooters so the busted target(s) can be repaired. With the exception of ELR shooting at dedicated targets, there is absolutely no reason to run a magnum in "tactical" matches.

 

[Daps!]

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Thought you guys might find this interesting: So I took the family up to dewey lake in the William o Douglas wilderness this weekend on a 3 day 2 night trip to spend some family time in the mountains. I have smaller children so it needed to be a short trip. I have a bear tag that I haven't filled yet so I took my rifle (OBR) along on the off chance we would run into one. The season is getting near and it's good training to pack a bunch of weight and 13pounds of weapon around those mountains. I knew there were going to be other people up ther because it was a relatively short hike to the lake. I did not expect quite the reactions I got. It seemed pretty divided with the salty old woodsmen on horse back giving the approving nod and the day packers giving awkward looks of disapproval. I even had one guy with his family ask me if it was a real gun! As if someone would carry around a fake one in the wilderness? He had a half bewildered half disgusted look on his face. I made it a point to smile and say hi to every person I met along the trail to try and show that people carrying guns are not all crazy but I don't know if it made a dent. Clearly the day trippers from the city are not used to being around firearms. Makes me wonder what the city folks plan of action is when they stumble into a sow with her cubs...

 

[Bigwheels]

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Ha-Ha. I had a similar reaction when a friend, & I hiked into goat Lake in the Henry Jackson wilderness. We stopped for lunch on the way up @ the bottom of the last mile up which is a real climb. A group of Jo Happy hikers walked by us, & we were both wearing our Hog Legs. Most just looked away, & hurried by, but the last lady in the line told us that we should be arrested for carrying a GUN in Public. (we were 6 miles from the nearest road BTW) We just smiled, & let them go. As we were getting ready to climb the last mile up to the lake the Jo Happy hikers came down practically running, & the loud mouthed lady stopped, & warned us not to go up there."Don't go up there...there's a BEAR up there!" We just smiled, & patted our Hog Legs, & watched them scurry off.
I also really enjoy watching their faces when they come up, & ask me "Why are you carrying a GUN out here in the woods?" And I point down to the pile of mountain lion poo at their feet, & tell them what it is.
Good thing I don't see many of their ilk up in my neck of the woods.

 

[Bigwheels]

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Unknown. I have had the pleasure of trying to discern hits from smaller calibers @ long range for several years, & under good conditions it's not that hard to tell. However add a little mirage, & it can be hard to tell if the steel moved, & at long range you often can't hear the gong at all even with electronic muffs. Now, anything below about 800 yd, & it's not hard to tell even under harsh conditions, but beyond that, it can get dicey fast. At 1200 yd it can be hard to tell if my 300WM made a hit. So, if you're deciding what to bring to TSI's match, the 260 will be fine, as most tgt's are about 400-700 yd, with a chance of a couple longer shots. Also some stages will undoubtedly be fired unsupported, so a light rifle is good. My 300WM isn't the best choice for his style of match.

 

[DIBBS]

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Unknown- I'll be running 107 grain 6mm boolitz @ 3050 or so. A <span style="font-weight: bold"> good</span> spotter <span style="font-weight: bold">should</span> be able to see your hits, although if it's windy the sound may be difficult to discern. I'm like Sunnyside Scott though...can't see, can't hear...can't... ===>oh never mind!

 

[Unknown]

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Now I'm really confused about what to bring. Best solution is bring all the rifles and plenty of ammo. The 260 is really heavy, but it was built as more of a position rifle than a rifle for offhand shooting.

I also have some 140 grain bullets for the 260, but don't know if I have enough ammo for the match (60-80 rounds) and to do any decent practicing beforehand.

There have been plenty of matches where the rifle I use was determined by what I had enough ammo for. I guess I don't mind having to adapt. I like learning how to adapt, rather than only being able to shoot one rifle well, and only under certain conditions. I figure I ought to be able to deal with the situation as it exists, not as I wish it would be.

I'll just bring plenty of rifles and ammo, and shoot for fun. As this will be my first match with you fellows, it will be a steep learning curve in any case. So I'll just do the best I can under the existing circumstances, and with what I have to use. And we will see what happens. It will be fun.

 

[*Nine]

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Scott, do you have a max round count for the match figured out yet?

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Market Garden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott, do you have a max round count for the match figured out yet? </div></div>

well finally back from lake chelan, man i love eastern wa.

figure max of 85rd each day, still fine tuning stages but i promise i won't go over 85.

 

[*Nine]

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Sounds good, thanks. I'd better start loading.

 

[Tribe]

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In nasty hills, at longer ranges, with wind, rain, snow and mud, the magnum gives you a prayer of picking up your "splash"... something like a six will just disappear on you, more often than not...

The magnum is overkill for matches in the dust bowl... the couple of times, that I've been "that guy" who knocked down the target, I've felt like a real chode (though the last couple matches I've shot, the targets that went down, were hit by a 7-08 & a 260

).

There is no advantage to it, and frankly, for most stage designs, the weight and recoil is a bit of a handicap... IMO.... I suppose the real advantage comes, if it happens to be THE rifle that you shoot.

I myself am needing to make a non-magnum into THE rifle that I shoot, in short order... or I'm going to find myself riding the pine....

 

[Bigwheels]

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Yeah. Some day I'm going to get a scope mounted up on my LR308, & use that for some comps. But I just haven't got 'er done yet. Besides, I think that if the target is set up right, with adequate stands they can be hit by some real cannons without falling down. I set up our normal 750 yd target up @ Acme, & Jake's 338 Edge rang it several times without any issues. But I only hit it with my 300WM 3 or 4 times, & it fell over. I need to dig in the feet of the stand better, & that won't happen.
Anyway, if I can get these fishermen to stop breaking things I'll be there Sat for the match. And I'll be using the 225 HPBT for the first time in a comp. they are real hammers, so if TSI wants to ban me, then I can RSO, & just shoot some after the match.