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[-Nick-]

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Is there a group shoot anywhere this Saturday? I finally got some glass, and if I can get with Unknown this week and get it mounted I'd like to get it zeroed in and some tutelage...

 

[Bigwheels]

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I will probably be going up to Acme to shoot again this weekend if you want to come up.

 

[*Nine]

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I'd be down for a little shooting on Saturday if you'll be up there. I'd love to get some data in the 300+ yard ranges for my .284

 

[-Nick-]

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Hey Big where's Acme, and what time would I need to be there? I live down in the Bremerton/Silverdale area...

 

[hunter121]

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Just wanted to give the local guys another heads up, I have my snowmobile with trailer up for grabs. I have it in the WTT section. If you know of anyone that might be interested feel free to contact me. I am leaving for the winter for work and would rather not have it sit around.

SLED FOR SALE

 

[Bigwheels]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Big where's Acme, and what time would I need to be there? I live down in the Bremerton/Silverdale area... </div></div>
Acme's about 1/2 hr north of Sedro Wooley, on HW 9.
I'm planing on being up there around 10:00 ish. Providing I don't have an emergency fishboat repair.

 

[-Nick-]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Big where's Acme, and what time would I need to be there? I live down in the Bremerton/Silverdale area... </div></div>
Acme's about 1/2 hr north of Sedro Wooley, on HW 9.
I'm planing on being up there around 10:00 ish. Providing I don't have an emergency fishboat repair. </div></div>

I'll see if I can get up there around then. How much does it cost?

 

[Bigwheels]

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It's all forest land. Just gas, & bullets. I host a match up there about once a year.

 

[*Nine]

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Broker, I don't know what method you use to get across the sound, but if you're coming across in Seattle or Edmonds you'd have to head north on I5 up past the 405 interchange. I live pretty much right near the 405/I5 interchange and if you want you're welcome to meet at my house and ride up with me on Saturday.

 

[-Nick-]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Market Garden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Broker, I don't know what method you use to get across the sound, but if you're coming across in Seattle or Edmonds you'd have to head north on I5 up past the 405 interchange. I live pretty much right near the 405/I5 interchange and if you want you're welcome to meet at my house and ride up with me on Saturday. </div></div>

I'd probably take the Kingston/Edmonds and that would be great. I'm still working on finding a puppy sitter lol...

 

[*Nine]

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I'll send you a PM.

 

[hunter121]

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I have some things for sale/trade and figured I would give you guys first grab at them. Trades are more then welcome and I really could use some 142smk's, new 260 brass, FGMM GM210M Primers Or even a good set of 30mm rings in Medium/Med high.

- 2 boxes of 100Ct 6.5mm 123gr scenars ( one box open with all 100 in there the other is unopened).

- Savage TRR Tri Rail off my 17hmr, never used it

- 2 used Morta 10rd mags ( Type 2 )

I should be at Scotts Match as well.

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

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1. Alan H
2. Alan H wife
3. Chad Mcknight
4. Adam Breedlove
5. Jared
6. Scott Marquez
7. Ryan B
8. Craig/dibbs
9. Matt Maderis
10 Matts buddy
11 Craig/MG
12 Craigs wife
<span style="text-decoration: line-through">13 tyler hauan</span> broke shooting hand
14 Marty
15 Mike
16 Pat M
17 Me
18 Benchmark
19 Benchmark
20 lucas beitner
21 bk chilton
22 scott ramsey
23 caylen w
24 jeff g
25 ryan hunter121
26 mike bootneck??
27 daniel ecker (aka captn pecker head)
28 alan (sh unknown)

Guys i could really use as many spotting scopes as possible so if you have one we can use please let me know.

I will be providing water and minor snacks but bring whatever you need to get through the day.

Sign in will be from 8-9am sat & sun. shooting will start at 930 at the latest.

scott
[email protected]
cell 360 632 6482

 

[DIBBS]

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Scott-
I have two spotting scopes I can bring, but don't have shit for a decent tripod. (20x leupold compact, 20-40 ish variable minox).

 

[Tribe]

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Diggler.... you can grab mine on your way through Friday, if you want... I won't make it till Sunday (at best).

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dibbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott-
I have two spotting scopes I can bring, but don't have shit for a decent tripod. (20x leupold compact, 20-40 ish variable minox).</div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tribe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Diggler.... you can grab mine on your way through Friday, if you want... I won't make it till Sunday (at best).</div></div>

sweet i have an extra tripod dibbs i recently got a manfrotto so i have a spare.

thanks chad hopefully i will be passing through around 9

 

[Pat M]

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If i can make it i'll have 2 for Sunday (if Alan shoots Saturday he can bring them down also)

 

[Bigwheels]

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Hey MG, & Broker. I just found out that I will probably have to work on Sat. I sent MG a PM, but I can probably go Sun. or give you guys directions on where the targets are so you can shoot without me if you have to. I'll PM you guys my Cell # if you want to call. Sorry guys.

 

[Unknown]

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I'll bring a spotting scope (not the greatest one, but it works) and tripod, as well as a set of 10X binos.

Hunter: I'm interested in your 123 Scenars. Let me know what you are looking for in trades for them. Just saw your posted wish list. I'll look around..

 

[SScott]

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I'll bring one spotting scope and Tri-pod.
SScott

 

[Pat M]

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not mine but i figure you wet siders may need one - Seattles craigslist

Swarovski Habicht ST 80 Spotting Scope - $800 (Seattle)]
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/spo/2544998662.html

80mm diameter objective flawless lens, straight-model Swarovski 20-60x zoom eyepiece. The scope is in very good condition. Includes original packaging. It comes with Manfrotto 3130 tripod and quick-release, tripod mount.

 

[-Nick-]

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Big props and Thank You to Unknown for helping me get my optics mounted & zeroed today. Tremendous help and I'd gladly go shooting again with him any day!

On a side note my first group of 3 at 100yds after zeroed was under a dime with my GAP-10.

The others weren't as great because I became over elated and pulled shots. I think I did alright for my first time shooting a scoped AR platform...

 

[Unknown]

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Broker's rifle is a sweetie, that is for sure. After he gets some more trigger time on it (it is a new stick for him) he is going to be bangin' targets with that one. It is a really nicely set up rig. If he is getting groups like he did before the rifle is even broken in, it should REALLY shoot after broken in, and some familiarization time on it.

Broker is a fine fellow to shoot with too. Relaxed and enjoyable shooting.

 

[-Nick-]

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Here's the finished rifle minus the can I'll buy someday lol...

 

[mjh30]

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Broker, the rifles looking good, glad that scope issue got resolved that was quite a bit of money to worry about.

 

[Bigwheels]

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Looking good Broker. Now you just gotta get out, & shoot.

 

[leadbullet]

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mjh, was a pleasure shooting with you again this weekend.
nice stick broker, maybe someday we can meet at KRR and shoot our 308 AR's.

 

[-Nick-]

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I'm thinking I might try and make it out on the 10th to the match TSI has planned. I can't be there on the 11th though as it's my best friends birthday...

 

[-Nick-]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: attherange</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
nice stick broker, maybe someday we can meet at KRR and shoot our 308 AR's. </div></div>

Just let me know when and I'll schedule some time to be out there...

 

[TT]

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Hey Bigwheels - I went up to the ACME spot and set up my 11"x17" LV steel target so it was 930 yards away shooting from the "750" yard location (just south of the T-intersection).

Once on target I enjoyed consistent hits but noticed a few rounds high and a little right. The right was probably due to the wind picking up as the temperature started to rise.

However, the vertical was perplexing. If I'm not mistaken I thought you posted something awhile ago about anomalous vertical movement of rounds under similar conditions.

Did you ever resolve the issue?

(I was shooting the 208AMAX @2750 ft/s)

 

[Bigwheels]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TT</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Bigwheels - I went up to the ACME spot and set up my 11"x17" LV steel target so it was 930 yards away shooting from the "750" yard location (just south of the T-intersection).

Once on target I enjoyed consistent hits but noticed a few rounds high and a little right. The right was probably due to the wind picking up as the temperature started to rise.

However, the vertical was perplexing. If I'm not mistaken I thought you posted something awhile ago about anomalous vertical movement of rounds under similar conditions.

Did you ever resolve the issue?

(I was shooting the 208AMAX @2750 ft/s)

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In a word. No. I have seen updrafts there that can account for SOME of the vertical anomalies, but certainly not all. Especially where you set your target up. The updraft factor is consistent with a 1/2-1/4 value wind blowing the bullet up. You should have seen all the puffy cotton stuff blowing up the hill from there, & take the aprox. angle up from vertical, & equate that into a wind elevation value, & you should be on. However it has to be blowing pretty good to get a 208 A Max to drift up by even a click. So more than likely it was a load, or shooter issue. I also see a lot of people without a bubble level on their rifle have significant cant when shooting there. So you may have been hitting with a cant on the rifle you didn't know about, & once in a while you straightened the rifle out, & they went high. Canting to the right will cause low-right hits, so with dope for a cant in the scope, & you straighten the rifle up from there will cause a high hit to the left, and vice-versa.
Hope this helps.

 

[blurry6]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TT</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Bigwheels - I went up to the ACME spot and set up my 11"x17" LV steel target so it was 930 yards away shooting from the "750" yard location (just south of the T-intersection).

Once on target I enjoyed consistent hits but noticed a few rounds high and a little right. The right was probably due to the wind picking up as the temperature started to rise.

However, the vertical was perplexing. If I'm not mistaken I thought you posted something awhile ago about anomalous vertical movement of rounds under similar conditions.

Did you ever resolve the issue?

(I was shooting the 208AMAX @2750 ft/s)

</div></div>

One thing you might think about is ammo/barrel temp. I went shooting Sat with Lucas and Ron to double-check my dope and it was HOT where we were. after drilling a target at 1250 a few times, I had to switch mags,... which had been sitting on my shooting mat soaking up the sun,... needless to say, my next few were a full MIL high. This won't explain the single anomaly shot that goes high, but it's definitely something to think about. Ammo temp can definitely affect vertical.

Ry

 

[Bigwheels]

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This is also true. Thats why I use Hogdon Extreme powders. H-1000 is my go-to powder for my 300WM. I see almost no powder temp related changes with it.

 

[blurry6]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is also true. Thats why I use Hogdon Extreme powders. H-1000 is my go-to powder for my 300WM. I see almost no powder temp related changes with it. </div></div>

I was using H4350,...

 

[Bigwheels]

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Thats what I use in my 338WM with good results. Still may be temp related if the shots that go high are sitting in a hot chamber for a few minutes waiting for the wind, etc. How about rifle cant. You have a level installed?

 

[TT]

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I use H4831SC and a bubble level. It was shots 24 and 25 that went high/right. I then took about a 15 minute break and the vertical came back down on the next two shots right where they should be.

I quit after that when a bear hunter and his dog walked right up to the target even though I posted a sign at the trail head warning target shooting was in progress...

 

[Bigwheels]

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Sounds like your brl likes to go high-right when it gets to a certain temp maybe.
There are some real wieners up there sometimes. I would have been sorely tempted to bang the gong just to teach him a lesson. I haven't had anyone actually walk down there while I was shooting, but I have had a guy drive right past me @ another spot up there, & stop to start shooting my targets. I was nice tho, & just walked the 700 yd down there to tell him that he had just shot up all my pumpkins!

 

[-Nick-]

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Just remember it's not the dogs fault... lol

Seriously though BW if I have to walk 700yds to tell some yahoo to back-off my pumpkins he might end up wearing said pumpkin as a hat...

 

[Bigwheels]

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Yeah. That course of action did cross my mind. He was just your typical clueless dude taking his kids out to shoot their new 10-22. Besides. I don't think he ever actually HIT any of my pumpkins. I ended up sighting it in for them, & set up some pumpkins for them to shoot that weren't in my line of fire.

 

[Unknown]

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I have a 300 Win mag that always starts to climb after about 10 rounds. I finally figured it out:

The stock insulates the lower half of the barrel from exposure to air circulation. So as the barrel heats up, the upper (exposed) half of the barrel has more contact with circulating air. The lower (protected) portion of the barrel retains more of it's heat because of the lack of air circulation. As a result, the barrel does not expand uniformly....it expands more like the bi-metal strip on your thermostat. As lower portion of the barrel remains hotter, it expands more, thereby pushing the rounds upward.

The wind likely is the reason for the rounds going right. I tested my theory by keeping the barrel cool with water during long strings of fire. The barrel did not begin to string shots vertically when I cooled it, regardless of how many rounds I put through it..

It was just a heat issue.

Now, if your barrel is not protected on the lower portion as mine is, I am at a loss, and wasted all this typing...but it might be useful for other folks.

 

[*Nine]

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Does anyone have a recommendation for a cheap but decent motel out in Ellensburg for the match this weekend?

 

[Bigwheels]

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There's a super8, or similar right next to the freeway @ the canyon rd exit. Has some resturants next door too IIRC.

 

[*Nine]

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Ooh, that will work. Thanks.

 

[Unknown]

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That may be where I'll stay too. Are there any hotels/motels with restaurants in them? If I'm hauling a bunch of firearms around though, I would prefer a hotel/motel where taking gun cases through a lobby won't be an issue....

 

[Bigwheels]

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IIRC there is a restaurant in the hotel too. Kinda pricey tho.

 

[Tribe]

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Super8 was a good spot... and cheap enough...

The kid and I stayed there one day when the crew got pretty much snowed in... Had our crap strewn all over the room, drying out... with the boy dry firing on the floor.... got a sweet, sunny day of Pow, the following!

....has a sweet pool too!

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Market Garden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone have a recommendation for a cheap but decent motel out in Ellensburg for the match this weekend?</div></div>

For sure super 8 is the way to go.

Remember to pack your sunscreen it is going to be hot guys.

finalized the exact round count absolute max of 78rds, 56 of which will be prone. The remaining 22rds will be supported off of some type of barracade/support. Only 10rds on paper the rest will be on steel from 250-1035yds.

Shooting times will be tight but feasable. We will be very strict on time and there will only be allowed one minute prep time in between shooters so be ready because your time will start whether you are ready or not. This has to be done so that we don't get done in the dark. I for one would like alittle extra time at night to down to the river to cool off.

Sign in is from 8-9am sat. & sun. there will be 3 squads and you get to choose who you shoot with first come first served. Remember There aren't bathrooms out there so come prepared to rough it and don't forget your wdfw or discover pass parking permit.

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

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1. Alan H
2. <span style="text-decoration: line-through">Alan H wife</span> Kirk
3. Chad Mcknight Sunday only
4. Adam Breedlove sunday only
5. Jared
6. Scott Marquez
7. Ryan B
8. Craig/dibbs
9. Matt Maderis
10 Matts buddy
11 Craig/MG
12 Craigs wife
13 <span style="text-decoration: line-through">tyler hauan </span>broke shooting hand
14 Marty
15 Mike
16 Pat M
17 Me
18 Benchmark
19 Benchmark
20 lucas beitner
21 <span style="text-decoration: line-through">bk chilton</span> Tim sunday only
22 scott ramsey
23 caylen w
24 jeff g
25 ryan hunter121 sunday only
26 mike bootneck??
27 daniel ecker (aka captn pecker head)
28 alan (sh unknown)


If you guys know of anyone that wants to shoot we have 5 slots available satuday and sunday.

 

[hunter121]

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Scott,

Sent you a Email, you have me marked for Sunday Only when I am going to be there Saturday.

 

[hunter121]

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Sold to ROVER31

<span style="text-decoration: line-through">Hey guys, I just stumbled upon 12 TAN 308 Magpull's in my parts drawer. 4 of them are marked 1-4 in marker the rest are unmarked.I dont need these since I dont have a AR10 so I figured some one here could use them. I wouldnt mind tradeing them off for the same but for a ar15.

I will be at Scotts match on Saturday for those that will be there.
</span>