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Can you even get up that early Jim? Somebody will need to bring him a McGriddle and coffee
Can you even get up that early Jim? Somebody will need to bring him a McGriddle and coffee
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So this talk of an "adventure shoot" has got me thinking along a slightly different path. How about something along the lines of a match in which you travel by quad or dirt bike and have a course that's spread out over say 40 miles of trail/road. It would likely just be a day event, but could be multiple days as well. Say there was maybe 10 firing points which each have multiple targets, and a shotgun start format. While the hike and pack all your shit idea sounds good on the internet, I see that as a logistical nightmare and could end up with some serious safety concerns/liability.
Let me know if anyone's interested and I may try to set something up for late fall or most likely next spring. </div></div>
This sounds awesome. I almost always have my quad at the shoots we do out here on the olyimpic peninsula and i ride to the different points its really fun. Keep me posted for sure.
CJG
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So this talk of an "adventure shoot" has got me thinking along a slightly different path. How about something along the lines of a match in which you travel by quad or dirt bike and have a course that's spread out over say 40 miles of trail/road. It would likely just be a day event, but could be multiple days as well. Say there was maybe 10 firing points which each have multiple targets, and a shotgun start format. While the hike and pack all your shit idea sounds good on the internet, I see that as a logistical nightmare and could end up with some serious safety concerns/liability.
Let me know if anyone's interested and I may try to set something up for late fall or most likely next spring. </div></div>
This sounds awesome. I almost always have my quad at the shoots we do out here on the olyimpic peninsula and i ride to the different points its really fun. Keep me posted for sure.
CJG
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hey guys, just curious... is there a shoot in early september by chance or late august? i am fixin' to be en route navy took longer than i thought possible to decide to cank my orders and fire me. ( lovin' those cutbacks!)
hey guys, just curious... is there a shoot in early september by chance or late august? i am fixin' to be en route navy took longer than i thought possible to decide to cank my orders and fire me. ( lovin' those cutbacks!)
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Ditch... I think TSI is planing on putting something together in that time frame... if I remember correctly.
Rotor.... been a long time since the last O.P. shoot.... any word from the ghosts on that side? ......just sayin'....
Ditch... I think TSI is planing on putting something together in that time frame... if I remember correctly.
Rotor.... been a long time since the last O.P. shoot.... any word from the ghosts on that side? ......just sayin'....
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Last I heard the TSI shoot was on 9/10-11. Haven't heard if it was in E-Burg, or Moses Lake.
I called DSM a month ago or so, & he was still without stick. Haven't heard from BW in months...
Yep. Called DSM a little while ago. Still no stick.
If I can actually get everything together in time, I'm thinking the High Mountain Adventure Shoot has to be on 8/27-28/11. Otherwise I'll save that for next year, so I have more time to get everything set up, etc. So, who all is actually interested? Anyone volunteer to help set up? We would have to meet in Mazama, & I'll lead the way to the base, where everything will start.
Last I heard the TSI shoot was on 9/10-11. Haven't heard if it was in E-Burg, or Moses Lake.
I called DSM a month ago or so, & he was still without stick. Haven't heard from BW in months...
Yep. Called DSM a little while ago. Still no stick.
If I can actually get everything together in time, I'm thinking the High Mountain Adventure Shoot has to be on 8/27-28/11. Otherwise I'll save that for next year, so I have more time to get everything set up, etc. So, who all is actually interested? Anyone volunteer to help set up? We would have to meet in Mazama, & I'll lead the way to the base, where everything will start.
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<span style="font-size: 14pt"> <span style="font-weight: bold"> <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"> Good Luck in Wenatchee gentlemen.</span> </span> </span>
<span style="font-size: 14pt"> <span style="font-weight: bold"> <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"> Good Luck in Wenatchee gentlemen.</span> </span> </span>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tribe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rotor.... been a long time since the last O.P. shoot.... any word from the ghosts on that side? ......just sayin'....
</div></div>
Yo Yo Yo Father F'rs!
Been out to Stud lately...but a bun is in the oven and sadly the firearm re-acquirement will be set back even further. But I would like to come and RSO a stage or two. Talking with Bigwheels got me thinking about putting on another shoot at Hopps'.....you all keep safe and always, always, always show RSO that firearm is clear!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tribe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rotor.... been a long time since the last O.P. shoot.... any word from the ghosts on that side? ......just sayin'....
Yo Yo Yo Father F'rs!
Been out to Stud lately...but a bun is in the oven and sadly the firearm re-acquirement will be set back even further. But I would like to come and RSO a stage or two. Talking with Bigwheels got me thinking about putting on another shoot at Hopps'.....you all keep safe and always, always, always show RSO that firearm is clear!
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I am going to be working in the Seattle, WA area, and likely spending 2-3 weeks at a time there. Can anyone recommend some good ranges within an hours drive or so from the downtown area that I can go shooting at up to about 1000 yards?
I am going to be working in the Seattle, WA area, and likely spending 2-3 weeks at a time there. Can anyone recommend some good ranges within an hours drive or so from the downtown area that I can go shooting at up to about 1000 yards?
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New memeber here. Met DAFAR at a shoot we did this past week and he turned me onto this site. Lots of great info here. Hope to be able to get to some shoots/events.
Rich
New memeber here. Met DAFAR at a shoot we did this past week and he turned me onto this site. Lots of great info here. Hope to be able to get to some shoots/events.
Rich
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Always pm me with dates and times. Always down, summer would be nice but I do love me some snow as well. Down for whatever
Always pm me with dates and times. Always down, summer would be nice but I do love me some snow as well. Down for whatever
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Had a lite turn out. Only fired ~4200 rounds in 4.5 hours. Travis, AKA 7mmAM stiffed me on the McGriddle. He did however win the match.
We ironed out a few details for the 2012 Findlay Cup after the match. Should be a better match yet that last year if we can pull of some of the new ideas!
Had a lite turn out. Only fired ~4200 rounds in 4.5 hours. Travis, AKA 7mmAM stiffed me on the McGriddle. He did however win the match.
We ironed out a few details for the 2012 Findlay Cup after the match. Should be a better match yet that last year if we can pull of some of the new ideas!
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Thanks for posting the results, Jim. Bet it was just a little warm towards the end of the shooting today. Only 4200 rounds...hmmm probably sounded like the 4th of july at the range.
Thanks for posting the results, Jim. Bet it was just a little warm towards the end of the shooting today. Only 4200 rounds...hmmm probably sounded like the 4th of july at the range.
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thanks for the great shoot Jim and Jesse, i had an absolute blast. I never have shot against a clock before, and it highlighted the areas of weakness rather well. Better form and practice will fix that.
Spare Kidney for Sale or trade for guns and gear. Thanks Jim.
thanks for the great shoot Jim and Jesse, i had an absolute blast. I never have shot against a clock before, and it highlighted the areas of weakness rather well. Better form and practice will fix that.
Spare Kidney for Sale or trade for guns and gear. Thanks Jim.
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I echo thanks to Jim and other folks who made this thing happen. Stoked for Findlay Cup 2012!
I echo thanks to Jim and other folks who made this thing happen. Stoked for Findlay Cup 2012!
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<span style="font-weight: bold"> <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Absolutely Sobrbiker883 EVERYBODY is welcome here! </span> </span> (and some of us reside in Eastern Washington).
This is a GREAT group of folks!
<span style="font-weight: bold"> <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Absolutely Sobrbiker883 EVERYBODY is welcome here! </span> </span> (and some of us reside in Eastern Washington).
This is a GREAT group of folks!
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Stanwood is pretty centralised for shoots around here. There is a place to shoot out of Darrington.(don't know exactly where) I do most of my shooting out of Acme, & there are guys in Stanwood, I'm in Anacortes, & there are guys in Monroe, & Bellingham too.
So are there any more potential takers for a High Mountain Adventure Shoot (H-MAS) on 8/27-28/11? Would still need some volunteers to help get things set up too. I just did some quick testing @ 4000' ASL with the new 225's, & I think my dope is right on. I'm ready.
Stanwood is pretty centralised for shoots around here. There is a place to shoot out of Darrington.(don't know exactly where) I do most of my shooting out of Acme, & there are guys in Stanwood, I'm in Anacortes, & there are guys in Monroe, & Bellingham too.
So are there any more potential takers for a High Mountain Adventure Shoot (H-MAS) on 8/27-28/11? Would still need some volunteers to help get things set up too. I just did some quick testing @ 4000' ASL with the new 225's, & I think my dope is right on. I'm ready.
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I'm not a big SBR or supressor guy anyway....
Any stupid restrictions on how many pets you can have?
I'm not a big SBR or supressor guy anyway....
Any stupid restrictions on how many pets you can have?
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Not that I'm aware of. We can use cans now. And you'll like the weather. (for a little while longer) It was only 70* today.
Not that I'm aware of. We can use cans now. And you'll like the weather. (for a little while longer) It was only 70* today.
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come on up biker, The weather is not like you are used to but the shooting is just as good if not better!!! Promise!!! The places we shoot and the folks we shoot with are first class
come on up biker, The weather is not like you are used to but the shooting is just as good if not better!!! Promise!!! The places we shoot and the folks we shoot with are first class
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She tossed her hat in the ring, we'll see where it goes.
Maybe something'll happen, maybe 'll come up if she gets it, maybe nothing will happen, maybe a lathe will fit in the garage here where all the animal stuff is, only time will tell
She tossed her hat in the ring, we'll see where it goes.
Maybe something'll happen, maybe 'll come up if she gets it, maybe nothing will happen, maybe a lathe will fit in the garage here where all the animal stuff is, only time will tell
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
So are there any more potential takers for a High Mountain Adventure Shoot (H-MAS) on 8/27-28/11? Would still need some volunteers to help get things set up too. I just did some quick testing @ 4000' ASL with the new 225's, & I think my dope is right on. I'm ready. </div></div>
I would DEFINATELY like in on this but I gotta ask uncle sam for the time off. Is this date set finalized?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
So are there any more potential takers for a High Mountain Adventure Shoot (H-MAS) on 8/27-28/11? Would still need some volunteers to help get things set up too. I just did some quick testing @ 4000' ASL with the new 225's, & I think my dope is right on. I'm ready. </div></div>
I would DEFINATELY like in on this but I gotta ask uncle sam for the time off. Is this date set finalized?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not a big SBR or supressor guy anyway....
Any stupid restrictions on how many pets you can have? </div></div>
There's a couple towns that have outlawed certain breeds, but none north of Seattle. Auburn would be the biggest Nazi city when it comes to dogs...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not a big SBR or supressor guy anyway....
Any stupid restrictions on how many pets you can have? </div></div>
There's a couple towns that have outlawed certain breeds, but none north of Seattle. Auburn would be the biggest Nazi city when it comes to dogs...
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Fun match as usual Jim. Everything went smoothly and we finished just in time. Good to see everyone and test out some new toys.
Guys, the 2012 Findlay cup is going to be one of the premier matches. Lots of new stuff with some of the typical JTP surprises thrown in.
Fun match as usual Jim. Everything went smoothly and we finished just in time. Good to see everyone and test out some new toys.
Guys, the 2012 Findlay cup is going to be one of the premier matches. Lots of new stuff with some of the typical JTP surprises thrown in.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daps!</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
So are there any more potential takers for a High Mountain Adventure Shoot (H-MAS) on 8/27-28/11? Would still need some volunteers to help get things set up too. I just did some quick testing @ 4000' ASL with the new 225's, & I think my dope is right on. I'm ready. </div></div>
I would DEFINATELY like in on this but I gotta ask uncle sam for the time off. Is this date set finalized? </div></div>
The date is set, but the likelyhood of getting everything ready by then is not. I still need a couple guys to make arrangements to help out in the next few weeks.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daps!</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
So are there any more potential takers for a High Mountain Adventure Shoot (H-MAS) on 8/27-28/11? Would still need some volunteers to help get things set up too. I just did some quick testing @ 4000' ASL with the new 225's, & I think my dope is right on. I'm ready. </div></div>
I would DEFINATELY like in on this but I gotta ask uncle sam for the time off. Is this date set finalized? </div></div>
The date is set, but the likelyhood of getting everything ready by then is not. I still need a couple guys to make arrangements to help out in the next few weeks.
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Wow... flurry of activity...
Congrats to Travis, Tyler & Alan... top three finishers, in that order. Nice shooting guys!
Thanks SOOOO much to Jim & Jesse, for throwing this thing together! Although no ballads will be written of my own shooting prowess (
I actually managed to earn a booby prize
).... I've got to say, this ranked as some of the most fun I've had, behind a smoking barrel! Hits or misses, I COULD NOT wipe the smile off of my face! Something about blasting away, as fast as you can, over a five minute course of fire, littered with steel.... Man... it just don't get ANY better! As Jesse kept advising.... "The only thing worse than a miss.... is a SLOW MISS".
SO thanks to you two, I'm now officially double fucked... one more discipline to chase down the rabbit hole! I'm already short on time, brain space..... and.... money.... just what this OCD riddled dude needed..... so yeah.... thanks .... I think.
That said... it was a lighter turn out, than Jim had anticipated... which for something thrown together, off-the-cuff like this, is understandable. For those of you guys that are sitting on the fence... know this... from the highest score, to the lowest score, this thing was all laughs, and smiles, all day long. If you like trigger time with an accelerated heart rate... the time is now, to jump in with both feet.
The reputation of Jim's matches are growing, and if you ain't on the inside track early, you may find it very hard to see the field later. The 2012 Findlay Cup, is going to another level... start jumping in on these local opportunities.... before they're snatched from your grasp. As fast as some of these "Top Matches" fill up these days, it is truly a blessing to have this local resource.... the stuff that Jim is doing, is as cool, or cooler than most any of the "Big Matches" around the country.... when word gets out, it won't be as simple as driving a couple of hours, with $40 bucks in your pocket, and a trunk load of ammo....
Good to see all of you guys yesterday.... Shoot Straight.
Wow... flurry of activity...
Congrats to Travis, Tyler & Alan... top three finishers, in that order. Nice shooting guys!
Thanks SOOOO much to Jim & Jesse, for throwing this thing together! Although no ballads will be written of my own shooting prowess (
SO thanks to you two, I'm now officially double fucked... one more discipline to chase down the rabbit hole! I'm already short on time, brain space..... and.... money.... just what this OCD riddled dude needed..... so yeah.... thanks .... I think.
That said... it was a lighter turn out, than Jim had anticipated... which for something thrown together, off-the-cuff like this, is understandable. For those of you guys that are sitting on the fence... know this... from the highest score, to the lowest score, this thing was all laughs, and smiles, all day long. If you like trigger time with an accelerated heart rate... the time is now, to jump in with both feet.
The reputation of Jim's matches are growing, and if you ain't on the inside track early, you may find it very hard to see the field later. The 2012 Findlay Cup, is going to another level... start jumping in on these local opportunities.... before they're snatched from your grasp. As fast as some of these "Top Matches" fill up these days, it is truly a blessing to have this local resource.... the stuff that Jim is doing, is as cool, or cooler than most any of the "Big Matches" around the country.... when word gets out, it won't be as simple as driving a couple of hours, with $40 bucks in your pocket, and a trunk load of ammo....
Good to see all of you guys yesterday.... Shoot Straight.
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DSM.... Wow man.... Glad to hear all is well.... best wishes with the new cub! Been missing the Hopps play-ground lately..... just sayin',,,
DSM.... Wow man.... Glad to hear all is well.... best wishes with the new cub! Been missing the Hopps play-ground lately..... just sayin',,,
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Sobr..... welcome aboard! Great group of guys here... the weather may take some getting used to... your sun, is our rain.... you'll just likely learn to enjoy driving mountain passes... ...or... ...just being wet.
Sobr..... welcome aboard! Great group of guys here... the weather may take some getting used to... your sun, is our rain.... you'll just likely learn to enjoy driving mountain passes... ...or... ...just being wet.
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Biggs.... I'd be in for sure... but the season's about to start... the best I could hope to pull off, would be a Sunday... just FYI.
Biggs.... I'd be in for sure... but the season's about to start... the best I could hope to pull off, would be a Sunday... just FYI.
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I'd love to be able to shoot on the 27-28th but I'll be in Denver on business that weekend, sucks!
I'd love to be able to shoot on the 27-28th but I'll be in Denver on business that weekend, sucks!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So are there any more potential takers for a High Mountain Adventure Shoot (H-MAS) on 8/27-28/11?</div></div>
Love the idea in principle, but is a no-go date for me unfortunately (also, unlikely my rifle will be back together by then).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So are there any more potential takers for a High Mountain Adventure Shoot (H-MAS) on 8/27-28/11?</div></div>
Love the idea in principle, but is a no-go date for me unfortunately (also, unlikely my rifle will be back together by then).
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first off big thanks to jim and jesse for the sweet shoot, i haven't had that much fun shooting in along time. possibly more addictive the bolt guns.
Sobr man would love to have you in the area, bring your warm clothes because you are going to freeze your ass off up here in the nw.
bigs if you want to do your match on the 10-11th i would be happy to cancel mine and come shoot yours. i don't have a ton of time on my hands for setup currently.
first off big thanks to jim and jesse for the sweet shoot, i haven't had that much fun shooting in along time. possibly more addictive the bolt guns.
Sobr man would love to have you in the area, bring your warm clothes because you are going to freeze your ass off up here in the nw.
bigs if you want to do your match on the 10-11th i would be happy to cancel mine and come shoot yours. i don't have a ton of time on my hands for setup currently.
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Thanks TSI. But the archrey deer season opens on 9/1 up there, & it will be a zoo come the dawn. Probably wouldn't have room to park everyones rigs, let alone do any shooting. The more I think about it, I think that a real match on this time frame is out of the question. Maybe a small get together to scope it out on that weekend should be doable. I could get some of the legwork ready for a match up there either later in the yr, or more likely next year. Maybe I'll do BSCIV up there in the late spring/early summer.
So, if anyone wants to meet up there on 8/27, we can do some shooting, & some scouting. Be a good chance to check your DA come up's etc. if nothing else.
Thanks TSI. But the archrey deer season opens on 9/1 up there, & it will be a zoo come the dawn. Probably wouldn't have room to park everyones rigs, let alone do any shooting. The more I think about it, I think that a real match on this time frame is out of the question. Maybe a small get together to scope it out on that weekend should be doable. I could get some of the legwork ready for a match up there either later in the yr, or more likely next year. Maybe I'll do BSCIV up there in the late spring/early summer.
So, if anyone wants to meet up there on 8/27, we can do some shooting, & some scouting. Be a good chance to check your DA come up's etc. if nothing else.
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I am down for the 27th Jeff, Just let me know where and when we are meeting. I am going to Alaska on the 30 for 12 days on a moose hunt so I am glad you are doing something.
I am down for the 27th Jeff, Just let me know where and when we are meeting. I am going to Alaska on the 30 for 12 days on a moose hunt so I am glad you are doing something.
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PM sent with destination for meet up. I'll probably be heading up on Fri. the 26th, & camp out the weekend, so you can meet me Fri. if you can make it, or I'll come back down to the meet in the AM. Hope for cool temps, & no forest fires.
PM sent with destination for meet up. I'll probably be heading up on Fri. the 26th, & camp out the weekend, so you can meet me Fri. if you can make it, or I'll come back down to the meet in the AM. Hope for cool temps, & no forest fires.
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Hey guys if you have pics in img format of the findlay cup could you email or pm them to me. i want to put a little something together to help market the findlay cup for next year.
[email protected]
thanks scott
Hey guys if you have pics in img format of the findlay cup could you email or pm them to me. i want to put a little something together to help market the findlay cup for next year.
[email protected]
thanks scott
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Jim & Jesse's 3 gun was a ton of fun, learned a lot and had a blast. hope someone posts some pictures soon. I was on the fence on what squad i wanted to shoot with, i like shooting with my friends but need to shoot with some of the other wet-side guys some more (that way i will also remember their names)
Jim & Jesse's 3 gun was a ton of fun, learned a lot and had a blast. hope someone posts some pictures soon. I was on the fence on what squad i wanted to shoot with, i like shooting with my friends but need to shoot with some of the other wet-side guys some more (that way i will also remember their names)
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Hey guys I need your help. I am an MOA guy and I <span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">REALLY</span></span> want to get a spotting scope that has an moa recticle in it that has good optical quality (US optics is horrible glass) I found a company that would be willing to make a run of scopes but I need enough people who are seriously interested. Here is the posting I made
MOA Spotting Scope Group Buy
If you can think of anyone who would be interested send them to this link. Thanks Everyone! [color:#FF0000][/color]
Hey guys I need your help. I am an MOA guy and I <span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">REALLY</span></span> want to get a spotting scope that has an moa recticle in it that has good optical quality (US optics is horrible glass) I found a company that would be willing to make a run of scopes but I need enough people who are seriously interested. Here is the posting I made
MOA Spotting Scope Group Buy
If you can think of anyone who would be interested send them to this link. Thanks Everyone! [color:#FF0000][/color]
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I spent all last week involved in a week long shoot on Ft Lewis (50m - 900m) and we had four USO spotting scopes that we used a lot. I found the glass to be just fine. Their eye relief is like a rifle scope and is a pain to use. Their FFP inch per hundred (IPH) reticle is handy and eisier to use. We also had our Leupold 12-40X60 gold ring spotting scopes and their glass was a bit better than the USO scopes. The Leupold MK4 12-40X60 has a mil dot reticle. Will that fit your needs?
I spent all last week involved in a week long shoot on Ft Lewis (50m - 900m) and we had four USO spotting scopes that we used a lot. I found the glass to be just fine. Their eye relief is like a rifle scope and is a pain to use. Their FFP inch per hundred (IPH) reticle is handy and eisier to use. We also had our Leupold 12-40X60 gold ring spotting scopes and their glass was a bit better than the USO scopes. The Leupold MK4 12-40X60 has a mil dot reticle. Will that fit your needs?
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Unfortunately Leupold doesn't make the mark 4 spotter in MOA. When I was out shooting with some friends I looked thru two USO spotting scopes that day along with my Leupold HD and I wasn't expecting much of a difference in optical quality but man I was astounded how poor quality the image was with both USO scopes compared to the Leupold. I don't know if it was two scopes that were bad. But I mean it was REALLY different in the image quality. I should have taken a picture but it was BAD. I played with all the focus and zoom knobs to make the image better but it still didn't look any better.
Unfortunately Leupold doesn't make the mark 4 spotter in MOA. When I was out shooting with some friends I looked thru two USO spotting scopes that day along with my Leupold HD and I wasn't expecting much of a difference in optical quality but man I was astounded how poor quality the image was with both USO scopes compared to the Leupold. I don't know if it was two scopes that were bad. But I mean it was REALLY different in the image quality. I should have taken a picture but it was BAD. I played with all the focus and zoom knobs to make the image better but it still didn't look any better.
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