Member Link Up SHWW Group

[DAFAR]

Re: SHWW Group

Guess I missed something, what is the reason for the get together friday evening at KRR.

Anoother question, have any of you had work done or a barrel installed by Blackhole weaponry? the have a polygonal rifle barrel that I am considering for an AR 10 project and I am looking for some feedback.

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

Re: SHWW Group

Alright guys I have finally decided next match will be december 10th, bring 100rds, and some warm clothes.

Price will be $40 and we will only be accepting 24 shooters total. For this and all future matches you must pay ahead of time and there will not be any refunds (unless weather stops us from shooting). cof will be up to 100rds but isn't 100% yet but promise it won't go over that.

As always i promise the cof will have some new twists and turns, no unknown distance, but fair amount of non prone shooting. Of course I will be building some new barracades for this one.

I will give the shww guys a head start on this before i post it in the tactical competitions section.

For entry please send me an email that includes.

Full Name:
Email:
Phone #:
Snipershide handle:

After i get the email i will hold your spot for up to 10 days or until the funds arrive.

Please make checks to Scott Stuurmans

My contact info

scott stuurmans
374 jacobs rd
coupeville wa 98239

cell 360 632 6482
email: [email protected] or [email protected]

Note: I will be holding checks until we have at least 18 shooters, if for some crazy reason we don't get that many i will be returning your checks.

Current list of shooters
1. tsi
2. alan h
3. craig c
4. laurel c
5. adam b
6. chad m
7. tyler h
8. marty
9. scott
10. ryan
11. jd
12 tim
13. jake
14 eric
15 caylen
16 pete
17 travis

well i am pretty confident we will have enough shooters for the match at this point so we are a go for dec 10th.

 

[jcwarrior87]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sunnyside Scott</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jcwarrior87</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just wondering does anyone have a ACIS stock around Yakima, I am thinking I want to use one on my next build, but would like to fondle one before I spend that much money.

I hope to make the match, I fly out the next day for vacation. When are the matches normally over? </div></div>
Guns West in Yakima has a few rifles set-up with them, if you just wanted to get the feel of them.
If you come to the match I'm sure there will be more than one rifle wearing that stock.
Beware, because when you see all of the nice rifles your head will start spinning. LOL
By looking at the rifles you have bought and sold here, I have a feeling you are a "gun junkie" waiting to really come out of your shell.

SScott </div></div>


SScott I am already a full blown "gun junkie" My problem is I get about as much fun from finding all the parts and building them as I do from shooting them. I like to have about one project always burning in the back ground. Right now it is building my girl a 223 so she can shoot with me. But after that I am thinking I need 6x45 just for fun, I guess my problem is that I am addicted to trying out different calibers and systems. SO as long as there are new calibers and new systems, I am stuck wanting to try something new.

Thanks for the info about guns west, but I just can't go in there, Brad always treats me with such disrespect that I can't support him in any way.

 

[SScott]

Re: SHWW Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jcwarrior87</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Thanks for the info about guns west, but I just can't go in there, Brad always treats me with such disrespect that I can't support him in any way. </div></div>
LOL
I hear you, I went in there about 6 weeks ago and decided I would never go back again.
I can't stand his pompus attitude, I thought it was just me.
You should really come out to the match, even if you decide not to shoot, it's really a great group of shooters.
SScott

 

[Unknown]

Re: SHWW Group

Broker,
We can go out to my gun club, and you can get actual zero and trajectory out to 550 yards. Altitude at that club is around 600 feet IIRC. But it will get you in the ball park for come ups even though at the altitude and temp where the match is, it will probably be different. Call me if you want to go out there.

 

[leadbullet]

Re: SHWW Group

the range has lighting and I am a member there so I can let you guys through the gate, shooting has to be all done by 9PM.
If another time and date works better for you guys just let me know.
cheers.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: SHWW Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DAFAR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guess I missed something, what is the reason for the get together friday evening at KRR.

Anoother question, have any of you had work done or a barrel installed by Blackhole weaponry? the have a polygonal rifle barrel that I am considering for an AR 10 project and I am looking for some feedback. </div></div>

Just a get together for the sake of getting together since we're all in Kitsap...

 

[-Nick-]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unknown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Broker,
We can go out to my gun club, and you can get actual zero and trajectory out to 550 yards. Altitude at that club is around 600 feet IIRC. But it will get you in the ball park for come ups even though at the altitude and temp where the match is, it will probably be different. Call me if you want to go out there. </div></div>

Definitely. My schedule is ridiculously busy for the next few days though and KRRC is about 15 minutes away for a quick 100yrd zero. We need to get together once I get some aerials though and do some scouting around for the local 1000+ DNR range we will discover

 

[-Nick-]

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Unknown I know your 30 minutes south but if you want to come up tomorrow for the little get together we were gonna do I can meet you here in Silverdale and you can follow me out there. Call me...

 

[Alan_H]

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anybody put a rem. varmint contour barrel in a med. palma barrel cahnnel? does it fit? or no way..... the contour looks almost the same to me on Rock creeks web site

 

[Captain Kirk]

Re: SHWW Group

Well its close Alan, but the medium Palma contour has a more agressive taper after about the first 4", the Rem contour is more gradual. Bottom line, mine didnt fit

 

[Alan_H]

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kirk how much did you have to hog out?

 

[mjh30]

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Dafar, pm sent on BHW.

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

Re: SHWW Group

Current list of shooters
1. tsi
2. alan h
3. craig c
4. laurel c
5. adam b
6. chad m
7. tyler h
8. marty
9. scott
10. ryan
11. jd
12 tim
13. jake
14 eric
15 caylen
16 pete
17 travis
18 craig d
19 pat m
20 bk
21 dan e
22 jason
23 matt m
24 kirk r

well we have full squad, but if your interested let me know i might be able to squeeze in few more or at least put you on standby.

 

[Seekers]

Re: SHWW Group

Guys, I just sold a rifle and the FFL is refusing to send a copy of his FFL for shipment. https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck

He just sent his FFL # and a link to get his address and the link says:


Federal Firearms License Results

Warning: No one may use this screen, in lieu of the required certified copy of a Federal Firearms License, to acquire a firearm.

He claims,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> According to the ATF they do not want copies in the hands of people other then FFL holders. If you have a FFL I will send you a copy. For your records all you need to do is print the screen with my info on it. This is the way I have done it for 2 years. If you have any other questions please let me know.


Chris</div></div>

I've never heard of this and I'm not shipping until it gets sorted out. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Seekers

 

[-Nick-]

Re: SHWW Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seekers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guys, I just sold a rifle and the FFL is refusing to send a copy of his FFL for shipment. https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck

He just his FFL # and a link to get his address and the link says:


Federal Firearms License Results

Warning: No one may use this screen, in lieu of the required certified copy of a Federal Firearms License, to acquire a firearm.

He claims,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> According to the ATF they do not want copies in the hands of people other then FFL holders. If you have a FFL I will send you a copy. For your records all you need to do is print the screen with my info on it. This is the way I have done it for 2 years. If you have any other questions please let me know.


Chris</div></div>

I've never heard of this and I'm not shipping until it gets sorted out. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Seekers </div></div>

I just called my FFL and that's accurate. They aren't supposed to send a copy to anyone other than an FFL holder.

 

[*Nine]

Re: SHWW Group

That's absurd. Ask him where they say they don't want copies in peoples' hands. All the FFL information is public record anyways and you can get it all straight from the ATF website including FFL number, business name, premise address, mailing address, and phone number.

 

[*Nine]

Re: SHWW Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I just called my FFL and that's accurate. They aren't supposed to send a copy to anyone other than an FFL holder.</div></div>

Wow, I have never heard of that. That's interesting seeing as it's all public record. I wonder how they want you to make sure a FFL is valid then for shipment since they tell you on the FFL check website specifically NOT to use that information in place of an actual copy of the license.

 

[Seekers]

Re: SHWW Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder how they want you to make sure a FFL is valid then for shipment since they tell you on the FFL check website specifically NOT to use that information in place of an actual copy of the license.</div></div>

My thoughts exactly!

How exactly am I covered when I ship this firearm?

 

[Seekers]

Re: SHWW Group

Broker, thank you for the quick response and information.

 

[Ryo]

Re: SHWW Group

They should at least give you the first 3 letters and the 5 last letters of the FFL license so you can verify they are a FFL.. Never heard not to give out FFL holders license before.. pretty much all that I've dealt with in the past have.

 

[DIBBS]

Re: SHWW Group

I don't claim to know the rules intricately, but have shipped firearms both ways. One, I've had a copy of the FFL, and clearly written on it in ink states copy. I've included this in the shipment., The other route was to recieve the FFL #electronically, and go to EZ check to determine that the number was valid, and the FFL was current (not expired). I've shipped firearms to a couple of gunsmiths I've worked with in the past without any paperwork.

Glen is there a toll free number you can call with the BATF that could get an answer to what's "legal,correct, proper," and will keep you from getting a set of wrist bracelets?

 

[-Nick-]

Re: SHWW Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Market Garden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's absurd. Ask him where they say they don't want copies in peoples' hands. All the FFL information is public record anyways and you can get it all straight from the ATF website including FFL number, business name, premise address, mailing address, and phone number. </div></div>

The information on who has one is public, but the actual photocopy is not.

I double checked it with several other FFL's and the ATF and all concur.

 

[JC Steel]

Re: SHWW Group

Seekers do not send the rifle until it is clear who you are sending it too. Dont take any chances!!! Just my thoughts.

If you are in fact sending it to a FFL then your good to go. It is his/her responsiblity to transfer the rifle.

 

[Seekers]

Re: SHWW Group

Like Broker I checked this out with several sources, including two FFL holders and they all agree that this is how business is done. I haven't sold a gun online in a couple of years and like many of you had just never heard of it.

thank you all for your input and efforts,

Seekers

 

[264win]

Re: SHWW Group

Can anyone recommend a local company to do a ceracoat on my
rifle ?
I will want to see at least a couple of photos of past work .
Looking for a good job , not a basement special.

Thanks , Adam

 

[Seekers]

Re: SHWW Group

Thought I'd share this, it's a master list of gun manuals. There are 100's listed by manufacture and available for download.

I got this link from a mail list I'm on so I hope it's helpful.

http://stevespages.com/page7b.htm

Seekers

 

[Pat M]

Re: SHWW Group

Nice

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

Re: SHWW Group

Alright guys I figured out a way to have 28 shooters so if you are on the fence let me know I will try ansi squeeze u in.

 

[leadbullet]

Re: SHWW Group

AtOne and broker, it was great meeting you guys. Thanx atOne for correctly torquing the screws on my scope rings with the Borka, seems like a hell of a tool.
let's do another shoot, sometime guys

 

[AtOne]

Re: SHWW Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: attherange</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AtOne and broker, it was great meeting you guys. Thanx atOne for correctly torquing the screws on my scope rings with the Borka, seems like a hell of a tool.
let's do another shoot, sometime guys </div></div>

Can honestly say it was great meeting both of you too and had a blast this evening.
Looking forward to next time we get together, definitely need to make it a regular occasion.
Dafar hope you had some luck at the Clearwallet casino

 

[Splaticus]

Re: SHWW Group

Any recommendations for a gunsmith in the Tricity/Yakima area? Just need some inletting done on my stock for a DBM.

 

[264win]

Re: SHWW Group

Splat , I dont know what your platform is but fyi , going to
dbm from a floor plate or blind mag often requires in-letting the action as well. Make sure the smith you choose can do this if needed .

 

[mm509]

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Splat,

get ahold of JD Thomas, known as hsss here. Shoot him a pm or call 509.945.6623. He is the smith that I use, and quite a few other people around our area have used also. Good product and quick (has built me 2 rifles-and the build time on each was around 3-4 days). Give him a call.

 

[hsss]

Re: SHWW Group

Im out of the Yakima area

Pm me for the info

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

Re: SHWW Group

I due to the fact we are getting such a good turn out i am going to now run 4 squads instead of 3 so we can accomodate up to the full 30 shooters.

so if you are still interested pm me.

HSSS is good to go and local can't beat that.

 

[jcwarrior87]

Re: SHWW Group

Yeah JD is GTG, I have had him do a few inlets for me, All of them are great work.

 

[Alan_H]

Re: SHWW Group

Guys i have a couple scopes going up for sale and wanted to give the SHWW group first chance and of corse a discount


1. Bushnell Elite 6500 2.5x16x50 mildot reticle moa knobs...got it new 2yrs ago about 1000 rnds under it on my .308....$550 shipped with burris Z rings


2. SS 10x42 side focus...got it here on the hide few months ago and never really used it......$250 shipped




if anyone wants pics just pm me

 

[-Nick-]

Re: SHWW Group

I think I'm going to make a go of it for that US Optics photo contest and see if I can't give them a run for their money. Now I just need the photo shoot location, lol...

 

[mm509]

Re: SHWW Group

I screwed up big time!! JD's phone number is 509.945.6623.

 

[Daps!]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TeamSendIt!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright guys I figured out a way to have 28 shooters so if you are on the fence let me know I will try ansi squeeze u in. </div></div>
I'm in can you PM me payment info?

 

[DIBBS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Daps!</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I'm in can you PM me payment info? </div></div>

40 bucks to:

.scott stuurmans
374 jacobs rd
coupeville wa 98239

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

Re: SHWW Group

Current list of shooters
1. tsi
2. alan h
3. craig c
4. laurel c
5. adam b
6. chad m
7. tyler h
8. marty
9. scott
10. ryan
11. jd
12 tim
13. jake
14 eric
15 caylen
16 pete
17 travis
18 craig d
19 pat m
20 bk
21 dan e
22 jason
23 matt m
24 kirk r
25 chris r
26 ron s
27 daps!

if you registered and aren't on the list please let me know? i don't want to overbook it.

You guys won't regret this one i have some neat new stages planned.

 

[BOOTNECK9Z45]

Re: SHWW Group

Sign me up..The check is in the mail..Mike

 

[mgavatar]

Re: SHWW Group

Hello friends,
Sorry to butt in, I am new to the forum, just got bit by the long distance precision shooting bug. Can you suggest any upcoming courses in WA/OR in the next few months and long distance ranges to shoot near SW Washington?
Prashant
Vancouver, WA

 

[Daps!]

Re: SHWW Group

Check out magpul dynamics precision rifle division. They run a course out of Yakima wa. There are a few write ups under the basic marksmanship thread

 

[Splaticus]

Re: SHWW Group

2nd the Magpul class. Caylen is a great instructor and the class is top notch.

 

[Splaticus]

Re: SHWW Group

Thanks for the tips on the gunsmith to those who replied! Much appreciated!

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

Re: SHWW Group

Guys we are completely full at this point in fact we have more than enough plus some on standby. You guys don't know how good it makes me feel to know you guys enjoy the matches i put on that much. I will try not to dissapoint you guys with the cof.

On another note i am looking for at least one more Range officer so if you are interested please contact me. At my matches the RO gets to shoot also and still qualifies for all prizes.

 

[Tribe]

Re: SHWW Group

Not too shabby... For a winter match in the foothills!