Suppressors Suppressor Rules on Moving

[landtoy80]

I would like to get a suppressor but there is a slight chance I will move to a different part of the state or to a different state if I find a different job.
How would this affect me getting my can if I move before I get the approval and how does it work when you move after you have the can.

 

[Luvman]

Re: Suppressor Rules on Moving

file a form 5320.20 with the ATF to let them know the suppressor will be moved.

 

[dangerdan87]

Re: Suppressor Rules on Moving

If you have to drive through a state that doesnt allow suppressors, I would ship it either to the new address or to an NFA dealer in that area.

 

[krecon1]

Re: Suppressor Rules on Moving

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Luvman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">file a form 5320.20 with the ATF to let them know the suppressor will be moved. </div></div>

You sure about that? A 5320.20 is NOT REQUIRED to move suppressors. While the NFA branch would like to inform them in writing of the new address, there is no prior approval required to move them. If you have SBRs, SBSs, or MGs then you'll need the 5320.20, but not for suppressors. How do I know? I've filed 5320.20s before, listing only the items required, and not the suppressors; transfer approved.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: landtoy80</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would like to get a suppressor but there is a slight chance I will move to a different part of the state or to a different state if I find a different job.
How would this affect me getting my can if I move before I get the approval and how does it work when you move after you have the can.</div></div>

If you move before the can arrives, your dealer can Form 3 it to another dealer in your new state. If you move within your state, you can simply write a letter to the NFA branch with the new address and list the items moved.

 

[dvdt]

Re: Suppressor Rules on Moving

I have this same concern and seem to find folks saying fill out a 5320.20 and move. I move around a lot and wouldn't want to get myself in trouble.

Is there a way we can contact the NFA branch and find out for certain ? I wouldn't know how to find my local NFA branch but I imagine an email to the ATF would eventually get me there.

I'd love to hear from someone that had a suppressor in say TN and then after some period of time, moved either locally in the city and then moved to NC or something like that.


Edit:

ATF Contact

"Contact ATF
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives cannot respond to e-mail inquiries relating to technical, policy and/or legal questions. Inquiries of this nature can only be addressed through a letter outlining your questions to the following address:

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Office of Public and Governmental Affairs
99 New York Avenue, NE, Room 5S 144
Washington, DC 20226 USA"

So I suppose we could try and email them but likely we'd be looking at writing them a letter to ask ?

 

[ScottACousino]

Re: Suppressor Rules on Moving

From ATF Form 5320.20

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A written request and prior authorization from ATF to transport interstate or in foreign commerce any destructive device, machinegun, short-barreled rifle, or short-barreled shotgun is required under the provisions of Section 922 (a)(4), Title 18, U.S.C., and Section 478.28, Title 27, CFR, a letter of request, in duplicate, containing all information required on this form, may be submitted in lieu of the form. </div></div>

Meaning only required for DD's MG's SBR's and SBS's. Not required for AOW's and Cans.

 

[Luvman]

Re: Suppressor Rules on Moving

It's not required for a temporary move of a can, but if you read the statement on the lastest form 4's it states you'll notify ATF of permanant change of address.

If you're moving permanantly file a 5320.20 for your can. No need to involve a dealer.

This advise is worth what you paid for it. I'm not an attorney, nor do I play one on the Internet.

Hth,
LM

 

[rlepage]

Re: Suppressor Rules on Moving

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Luvman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's not required for a temporary move of a can, but if you read the statement on the lastest form 4's it states you'll notify ATF of permanant change of address.

If you're moving permanantly file a 5320.20 for your can. No need to involve a dealer.

This advise is worth what you paid for it. I'm not an attorney, nor do I play one on the Internet.

Hth,
LM </div></div>

The 5320.20 is for a TEMPORARY move. Valid for up to a year. You need to notify the ATF of a permanent move, send them a letter.

 

[Luvman]

Re: Suppressor Rules on Moving

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mtmisfit</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Luvman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's not required for a temporary move of a can, but if you read the statement on the lastest form 4's it states you'll notify ATF of permanant change of address.

If you're moving permanantly file a 5320.20 for your can. No need to involve a dealer.

This advise is worth what you paid for it. I'm not an attorney, nor do I play one on the Internet.

Hth,
LM </div></div>

The 5320.20 is for a TEMPORARY move. Valid for up to a year. You need to notify the ATF of a permanent move, send them a letter. </div></div>

Box number 2 on form # 5320.20 says "firearms to be returned to original location" and there's a place to check either yes or no.

and on the bottom back of the form 4 it states:

"Change of Address: Unless currently licensed under the Gun Control Act, the registrant shall notify the NFA Branch, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms
and Explosives,244 Needy Road, Martinsburg, WV 25401, in writing, of any change to the address in Item 2a."

for a permanent move of an NFA weapon you need to notify the NFA branch "in writing". the easiest way to do this is to file a form 5320.20 and check the box for "NO" in section number 2.

the OP didn't ask about a temporary move. as has been pointed out there's no need for a 5320.20 when temporarily moving a suppressor or AOW across states lines as long as it's legal in the state you're traveling to.

HTH,
LM

ETA: box number 5 on 5320.20 reads: "Reason for Transportation of Firearms (example: Permanent change of Address)"

 

[dvdt]

Re: Suppressor Rules on Moving

So at the end of the day, fill out a 5320.20, mark box #2 "No" and box #5 permanent change of address ?

Has anyone done this successfully?

Does it matter if the suppressor is part of a trust?

 

[KYS]

Re: Suppressor Rules on Moving

Fill out the form saying you will NOT be returning to the original registered address. You are applying for a permanent change of address for the registered item.


Ive done it with personal C3 items and my trust items.

 

[M21tactical]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dvdt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So at the end of the day, fill out a 5320.20, mark box #2 "No" and box #5 permanent change of address ?

Has anyone done this successfully?

Does it matter if the suppressor is part of a trust? </div></div>
As others have indicated you don't have to use the 5320.20 form. All that is required is to notify (in a letter) the ATF at the West Virginia address of the pertinent information and the new permanent address. When you get your approved Form 4 with tax stamp, the back of the form directs you on what is required for various changes including a permanent address change. Just notify the ATF in writting to the address they state on the form. Once you have your approved form 4, it does not matter if it is a trust or not.

Petty simple actually.

 

[Luvman]

Re: Suppressor Rules on Moving

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dvdt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So at the end of the day, fill out a 5320.20, mark box #2 "No" and box #5 permanent change of address ?

Has anyone done this successfully?

Does it matter if the suppressor is part of a trust? </div></div>

I've done this myself. no big deal. All my C3 stuff is papered in my name. I assume it would work the same for a trust.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M21 Tactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As others have indicated you don't have to use the 5320.20 form. All that is required is to notify (in a letter) the ATF at the West Virginia address of the pertinent information and the new permanent address. When you get your approved Form 4 with tax stamp, the back of the form directs you on what is required for various changes including a permanent address change. Just notify the ATF in writting to the address they state on the form. Once you have your approved form 4, it does not matter if it is a trust or not.

Petty simple actually.</div></div>

I'm sure a letter would work just dandy also. I find it pretty simple to grab a .pdf of the 5320.20, fill it out, print it out, and send it in.

besides we're dealing with a .gov agency, I try to keep it simple and use their forms.

 

[sic65stang]

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Sorry for reviving an old thread, but how does moving apply if you are moving to non friendly state? If you are not required to notify than those states would have to grandfather your tax stamp? Could you only move to suppressor friendly states? And lastly, being military, we all know a PCS is only permanent until your up for orders again, how "permanent" or "temporary" is that? Thanks for direction.

 

[aziator]

Re: Suppressor Rules on Moving

If you come down on orders for a non-friendly state you will have to store all the items in a friendly state. I am mil, have done the 5320.20 a few times for permanent moves. When you fill out the form and send it in they just update the registry with your new permanent address. That cna be changed as many times as you send the paperwork in.

lastly, I wouldn't recommend sending in a letter, it takes way too long in my experience. Attached is a letter I sent in a while ago, you can see when it was dated and when it was approved. Just 2 years, no big deal...