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perfect. thank you!1.5 inch
My manual had a few blank pages had to down load one.Same on mine. The manual leaves a little to be desired and I'm not sure if it's something wrong or if it is something left in that was meant for the other models.
Might be able to get a rough count from this. Just comparing the C35 and the RH25How much rail space do you need for mounting? As in, where the mount actually connects to the rail.
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So I got mine in and its awesome. Especially for the price point. Only issue I'm having is that it doesn't zoom in. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but the manual says to hold the up button to zoom in. I held it for 10 seconds and the image doesn't change. Anyone know whats up?
Same on mine. The manual leaves a little to be desired and I'm not sure if it's something wrong or if it is something left in that was meant for the other models.
It looks like 2x to me just eyeballing it. Can't find any info on itThanks for confirming.
Does anybody know if the PIP is 2X base?
Is someone developing one? I was working on a throw lever/ring design but would rather buy something, depending on what it is.I am waiting on the final design stages of the focus throw lever before I will have them. I have been working on this since I recieved the first couple C35s.
So close. I've been wanting to see one on the MWS, but mine has the shorter rail. I think it will barely fit with my Mk5 25x behind it. If anything, the front objective will hover over the gas block. How did the C35 change the overall feeling of the rifle? Mine currently weighs 15.8lbs unloaded. Adding another 2lbs already makes my shoulders sore thinking about it.I have not played with the PIP feature yet. I am still trying to reach far enough out to adjust the focus when I am behind the rifle.
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The SR-25 weighs in at 18.9 lbs, unloaded, as shown in the picture with the suppressor. I haven't had a chance to fire it with the C35 on yet. The rifle as is, minus the C35, has a relatively low felt recoil already and it is a smooth impulse. The addition of the C35 will lower the felt recoil even more.So close. I've been wanting to see one on the MWS, but mine has the shorter rail. I think it will barely fit with my Mk5 25x behind it. If anything, the front objective will hover over the gas block. How did the C35 change the overall feeling of the rifle? Mine currently weighs 15.8lbs unloaded. Adding another 2lbs already makes my shoulders sore thinking about it.
That's surprising. You must have a heavy can, longer rail, and 24" barrel? My MWS is basically the same as yours minus the red dot and not that heavy. I know the SR25 is generally 1lb lighter in equivalent setup according to specs from the factory.The SR-25 weighs in at 18.9 lbs, unloaded, as shown in the picture with the suppressor. I haven't had a chance to fire it with the C35 on yet. The rifle as is, minus the C35, has a relatively low felt recoil already and it is a smooth impulse. The addition of the C35 will lower the felt recoil even more.
I weighed the rifle when you asked your initial question because I had not done that since adding the can and the stock and was surprised how much it weighed. Mrs. DustBun has been complaining about the weight every time I make her carry it when we go shoot but I figured she was just complaining about yet one more thing.That's surprising. You must have a heavy can, longer rail, and 24" barrel? My MWS is basically the same as yours minus the red dot and not that heavy. I know the SR25 is generally 1lb lighter in equivalent setup according to specs from the factory.
I weighed the rifle when you asked your initial question because I had not done that since adding the can and the stock and was surprised how much it weighed. Mrs. DustBun has been complaining about the weight every time I make her carry it when we go shoot but I figured she was just complaining about yet one more thing.
The Knights model is the SR-25 E2 PR which has a 20" barrel and it is a somewhat heavy walled barrel. The can is a Knights model 7.62 PRS/QDC and it is listed at 20.8 oz. The scope, a US Optics B-17, is rather heavy at 31.1 oz and then there is the Spuhr mount. The LMT DMR stock is also a bit heavy. The ounces do add up, a little here, a little there. I think the weight problem is because of the DeltaPoint Pro.
If you would like me to take some measurements on the C35, like from the Picatinny rail lock and the ocular and objective lens, to give you a better idea of how it would mount on your MWS, let me know.
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I have 5.5” of room from the end of my scope cover to the last open pic rail spot. Is that enough room?
Awesome, thanks for the help. I knew it was going to be close. The downside of the Mk5 5-25 is how big the scope is. I just wasn’t a fan of the 3-18 Mk5.Yes, you will have room. I have attached a picture with some dimensions that may help. The distance from the center of the Picatinny rail lug to the end of the ocular is 3.00". From the ocular to the right side of the Picatinny clamp is 3.00"+2.25" = 5.25" so you should get full clamping. The focus ring/objective will extend past the rail as you previously mentioned.
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You can also possibly "inset" the C35 ocular into the objective end of the scope to shorten if needed as shown below. Of course being careful not to get too close to the objective lens which could damage it. It will just depend on which slot the Picatinny rail lug on the C35 will work.
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Has anyone successfully used a C35 in front of a scope mounted in a 20-30 MOA mount? It has always been fine with my PVS-30, PVS-27, and PAS-13G, but those are mil-spec collimated devices. My guess is that it would be fine since the image can be zeroed, but if anyone has any direct experience I'd love to hear about it.
Excellent, thanks for the response!I am using a Spuhr SP-4616 which is a 6 MIL/20.6MOA mount. No problem.
Anyone have any time in the field with their C35 yet?
Thinking of picking one up to mount in front of a 4-16X ATACR on my MWS.
How far out are you able to ID and hit critters with it?
Anyone have any time in the field with their C35 yet?
Thinking of picking one up to mount in front of a 4-16X ATACR on my MWS.
How far out are you able to ID and hit critters with it?
What optic and magnification were you using?I was able to get some rounds under my new C35 today. I'm impressed with the image and how easy it was to zero to my setup this afternoon. I confirmed day scope zero on my AR22 at 50 yd, then added the C35. Out of the box, POI was 2 MOA low and 1 MOA right. After two adjustments and six rounds, it was zeroed. I then pulled it off and put it back on the same rail slot to test RTZ. It worked perfectly, no shift. I've saved the AR22 as profile A and recorded the X/Y coordinates and rail slot number to keep w/ that rifle's data and on a card with the clip-on. I'm glad it provides the X/Y coordinates since that allows you to save zero data for more than just the three profiles in the menu. I brought out some foil to use on the target like I've done for thermals in the past, but this one did not need it despite it not being particularly sunny. I was able to use a standard paper target w/ a darkish bullseye just like I was w/ my LWTS when I had that. I ran out of time to zero it on my lightweight 16" 6.5 Creedmoor gas gun since I wanted to get home for the kids' bedtime, but will do that in the next couple of weeks.
Also, people are saying these are enormous. It is about the same size/weight as my LWTS was, so I don't really notice it. It feels sturdy and I like how non-cheap the battery compartment/door feels. I am extremely happy with it so far and feel like I got WAY more than my than my money's worth on this scope, just like my PVS-27. I've not used the Oasys/now Trijicon stuff before so will have to defer to Horta's earlier comparisons, but I do believe it has a better image than my LWTS (which was, itself, spectacular) did and I LOVE having the ability to adjust screen position and take pictures/videos. As others have mentioned, a 75-100mm lens version of this optic would be spectacular as long as they don't cheap out on lens quality.
TL/DR: So far, I love it.
Vortex gen 2 PST 3-15x44 MRAD. I only used it at 6x and below due to the short range involved and so I could still see the menu (I like how they placed the menu/battery indicator so that it is visible through the magnified day optic). The day optic sits in 1.25" rings. I have also looked through it on another gun that has the same optic in a 1.125" height 20 MOA mount and could see through it no problem. One of the things I was wondering about this unit was whether or not it would be tolerant of low-mounted scopes as I prefer on precision guns. So far my experience mirrors that of the poster above, it does fine w/ 20 MOA bases.What optic and magnification were you using?
I would assume it would be ok to use a 1.7" height mount for an LPVO then?Vortex gen 2 PST 3-15x44 MRAD. I only used it at 6x and below due to the short range involved and so I could still see the menu (I like how they placed the menu/battery indicator so that it is visible through the magnified day optic). The day optic sits in 1.25" rings. I have also looked through it on another gun that has the same optic in a 1.125" height 20 MOA mount and could see through it no problem. One of the things I was wondering about this unit was whether or not it would be tolerant of low-mounted scopes as I prefer on precision guns. So far my experience mirrors that of the poster above, it does fine w/ 20 MOA bases.
I've only used it up to 8x on a LPVO so far, image was still completely usable. I recall my LWTS degrading severely above 6x, but that has now been a few years.
I would think yes based on the reasoning that my 1.125" mount is ~0.375" lower than the standard 1.5" and it still worked fine. I can test a more extreme version of that later today since I have an LPVO in a 1.93" mount on my X95. I'm guessing you won't have as much screen to work with on the lower magnifications, but we shall see later... for science.I would assume it would be ok to use a 1.7" height mount for an LPVO then?
I would think yes based on the reasoning that my 1.125" mount is ~0.375" lower than the standard 1.5" and it still worked fine. I can test a more extreme version of that later today since I have an LPVO in a 1.93" mount on my X95. I'm guessing you won't have as much screen to work with on the lower magnifications, but we shall see later... for science.
Absolutely. Please consider that this is ONLY IMAGERY. I have NOT fired this on my X95 yet or tried to zero it. I truly did not intend to do so, but may do so now just as an experiment. I doubt it would pose any problems to zero this setup, but have made no effort to do so at this time. See images below taken through LPVO in ADM Recon-H 1.93" mount at 1x and ~2.5x (absolute minimum magnification and lowest magnification where all of LPVO's FOV was w/in thermal output screen, respectively). This is a fairly extreme example of height misalignment, yet the image still presents itself fine. I opted not to glass over the neighborhood with this, so you will have to settle for basement picsI'll be curious to see your results on this, so keep us posted. I went and got 1.73" rings because my night vision hood for my chassis is about .3" taller than my day scope base in order to keep the two optics as close as possible, and it works but I ran out of vertical adjustment on my cheek pad.
Other than that I love this thing, and to answer another question in the thread I'm able to identify cattle out to 1000+ yards easily and this is in front of a Razor Gen 3 6-36 day scope, and have made consecutive impacts on heated steel out to 765. Once I get to 10x it gets really pixelated, but you can still make hits with it. It really shines around the 6-8 range for my scope anyway. The main reason I ever zoomed past 6x was to see more of the reticle for wind adjustments.
And clipping it on and off it holds zero just fine. Also on a 20 MOA mount and it works fine, I'm even able to use my scope turret adjustments to hit the farther targets. I love that it has 3 zero settings because I can hop it around on different rifles easily.
I just realized my mount is backwards compared to the other units in this thread. The lever is on the wrong side. Back to Steiner she goes.View attachment 7941235Does anybody else’s unit have a slight cant to it when mounted? The ocular appears pointed downward, it could be an optical illusion I suppose.