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The war in Ukraine and Donbas



When interviewed Matt Gaetz said McCarthy had secretly promised to the democrats to continue funding the war effort regardless of what his own party wanted. So, the McCarthy dismissal was a direct result of Ukraine.

Additionally, it should be noted that the latest vote to continue funding Ukraine with an additional 300 million was 311 to 117. Sadly funding the war continues to be overwhelmingly popular with congress, Democrat and Republican alike. Ukraine has no need to worry, the elites here are obviously committed to pushing us all closer to WW3.
 
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When interviewed Matt Gaetz said McCarthy had secretly promised to the democrats to continue funding the war effort regardless of what his own party wanted. So, the McCarthy dismissal was a direct result of Ukraine.
I heard that when they were still working the funding that got passed; good for them ousting his ass. Fucking traitor.
 
When interviewed Matt Gaetz said McCarthy had secretly promised to the democrats to continue funding the war effort regardless of what his own party wanted. So, the McCarthy dismissal was a direct result of Ukraine.

Additionally, it should be noted that the latest vote to continue funding Ukraine with an additional 300 million was 311 to 117. Sadly funding the war continues to be overwhelmingly popular with congress, Democrat and Republican alike. Ukraine has no need to worry, the elites here are obviously committed to pushing us all closer to WW3.
In that case you would think the Dems would have saved him to save their kickbacks?
 
Well here in America we have a choice vote republican, democrat, independent , write in your pick. So yeah as it is now dems, repubs same shit and the third parties don't matter. So yeah we are fucked.
 
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Any of the below sound familiar?

History repeats itself, we have learned nothing.

This new revival of our people from poverty, misery, and shameful contempt was a sign of a pure internal rebirth. England was not affected, much less threatened, by this. Nonetheless, it immediately renewed its hateful policy of encirclement against Germany. Both at home and abroad, we faced the plot we all know about between Jews and democrats, Bolshevists and reactionaries, all with the same goal: to prevent the establishment of a new people’s state, to plunge the Reich again into impotence and misery.

The hatred of this international world conspiracy was directed not only against us, but also against those peoples who also had been neglected by Fortune, who could earn their daily bread only through the hardest struggle. Italy and Japan above all, alongside Germany, were almost forbidden to enjoy their share of the wealth of the world. The alliance between these nations was, therefore, only an act of self-defense against a threatening, egotistical world coalition of wealth and power.

As early as 1936, according to the testimony of the American General Wood to a committee of the American House of Representatives, Churchill had said that Germany was becoming too strong again, and that it therefore had to be destroyed.

In summer 1939, England thought that the time had come to renew its attempts to destroy Germany by a policy of encirclement. Their method was to begin a campaign of lies. They declared that Germany threatened other peoples. They then provided an English guarantee of support and assistance, next, as in the World War, let them march against Germany.


Thus between May and August 1939, England succeeded in spreading the claim throughout the world that Germany directly threatened Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Finland, Bessarabia, and even the Ukraine. Some of these nations allowed themselves to be misled, accepting the promises of support that were offered, and thereby joined the new attempt to encircle Germany.


The Führer to the German People: 22 June 1941​

 
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I would argue that this is a setup to a buying opportunity eventually. With all the war we are engaging in these companies aren't going anywhere.
If I was thinking like a Neo Con war hawk, one could argue Taiwan would be a much more convincing case for wartime investment. The world has much more to loose economically if Taiwan falls into the hands of the CCP. It's going to be years before Taiwan can offshore its chip manufacturing to safe harbor.

However, the globalists admire the CCP for its capacity to constrain its own people, Russias atonomy and independence are more of an idiological threat to the power structures in Europe, thus Putin must be contained. Not to mention the obvious capacity for Russia to provide cheep energy to Western Europe, this is a threat in itself.

I would sue for peace with Russia and keep the powder dry for a conflict with China.
 
If I was thinking like a Neo Con war hawk, one could argue Taiwan would be a much more convincing case for wartime investment. The world has much more to loose economically if Taiwan falls into the hands of the CCP. It's going to be years before Taiwan can offshore its chip manufacturing to safe harbor.

However, the globalists admire the CCP for its capacity to constrain its own people, Russias atonomy and independence are more of an idiological threat to the power structures in Europe, thus Putin must be contained. Not to mention the obvious capacity for Russia to provide cheep energy to Western Europe, this is a threat in itself.

I would sue for peace with Russia and keep the powder dry for a conflict with China.
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China is much more of a threat to us than Russia is. And I'd be much more easily convinced that China's .gov has far more sinister serious plans against America than Russia has..
But our police and .gov in general like to go after/bully the easy targets, and thought that Russia would be one of those easy targets, but apparently thought wrong(again).
 
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Ukrainians looking to oust Gaetz


Cesar Conda, a former aide to Dick Cheney, whose defense industry lobbying firm Navigators Global helps the Ukrainian government secure American funds, scorned Gaetz as an “arsonist” and endorsed a call to expel the Florida lawmaker from the Republican conference.



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China is much more of a threat to us than Russia is. And I'd be much more easily convinced that China's .gov has far more sinister serious plans against America than Russia has..
But our police and .gov in general like to go after/bully the easy targets, and thought that Russia would be one of those easy targets, but apparently thought wrong(again).
Could you share references or other reading material on this? FWIW, WE provoked Russia into invading...
 
China is much more of a threat to us than Russia is. And I'd be much more easily convinced that China's .gov has far more sinister serious plans against America than Russia has..
My personal redneck opinion. . . .

As a culture, China is quite patient.
They are in it for the long game.

Problem now is that they may be realizing the biggest threat to the PRC is their own internal policies over the last 2 or 3 decades.
Some say they are in an irrecoverable trajectory.

If this is even partially true, look for them to take some frantic actions in an effort to placate and distract 1.4 billion pissed off countrymen.

"Sinister" plans against the United States would be quite simple to initiate right now.
We currently have uncontrolled borders as well as a distracted and uninterested citizenry.
Add to that a government that can be (and is) bought, influenced, coerced and blackmailed into actions that are not in the interest of our national security. Now you are a very, very soft target.

Without even resorting to an overt kinetic attack, our entire country can be completely savaged with >75% population loss.

Our infrastructure is so fragile and our manufacturing/distribution base so fractured or outsourced to non-CONUS entities, all that is needed is to tip a handful of seemingly non-important dominos.

In a totally logical and predictable fashion, things would become untenable for 99% of the population in short order.

Like going into a giant whirlpool the worse things would get, the faster they would degrade.

Regardless of our standing military, the Republic would be in an indefensible situation and not even necessarily have a solid clue to who the perpetrator is. Basically no one to strike back at.

Even if they knew who the culprit was, most hands on deck would be overwhelmed with domestic emergencies within our own borders.
I feel that we are exceptionally vulnerable right now. There is no less than a half dozen countries and regimes that would revel in our demise.
Even though I can't paint them as "the good guys", I do not think Russia is one of those.

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FWIW, WE provoked Russia into invading...
Thats exactly my point. Our government thought they could push NATO right up to Russia's border and basically do whatever they want without consequence. When Russia said "back off", we thought we could easily bully them if they did lash out.. which has proven to not be so easy after all.
 
My personal redneck opinion. . . .

As a culture, China is quite patient.
They are in it for the long game.

Problem now is that they may be realizing the biggest threat to the PRC is their own internal policies over the last 2 or 3 decades.
Some say they are in an irrecoverable trajectory.

If this is even partially true, look for them to take some frantic actions in an effort to placate and distract 1.4 billion pissed off countrymen.

"Sinister" plans against the United States would be quite simple to initiate right now.
We currently have uncontrolled borders as well as a distracted and uninterested citizenry.
Add to that a government that can be (and is) bought, influenced, coerced and blackmailed into actions that are not in the interest of our national security. Now you are a very, very soft target.
Yeah, I think that makes lots of sense. China needs a boogie man and perhaps we are the "evil distraction" in where the CCP can blame the US/The west for its woes. The Chinese public has been pushed quite a bit, especially with the authoritarian COVID policies, and massive two year long shut downs. A hot war would piss off a lot of Chinese off, especially if famalies start loosing their only sons. So, to your point, one of those detrimental policies being the "one child rule."

We are totally in a weakened state, ripe for the picking.
 
Yeah, I think that makes lots of sense. China needs a boogie man and perhaps we are the "evil distraction" in where the CCP can blame the US/The west for its woes. The Chinese public has been pushed quite a bit, especially with the authoritarian COVID policies, and massive two year long shut downs. A hot war would piss off a lot of Chinese off, especially if famalies start loosing their only sons. So, to your point, one of those detrimental policies being the "one child rule."

We are totally in a weakened state, ripe for the picking.

The active, dangerous and successful enemies of our Republic are internal. China wants our consumer dollar, that is what feeds and placates their population.

The constant messaging of a China and/or Russia invasion is a psyop. It is 100% 5G information warfare. Not saying the massive invasion through our open borders is not an issue, but China and Russia are not behind this movement of future agents of disruption. These new illegals will be activated by their handlers to cause chaos and disruption all over the US. This chaos will give more power to the Uniparty/Criminal Conspiracy seeking the destruction of our Constitutional Republic.
 
She’s on the retard bus for sure.
Meh peeps wanted us to do similar against Japan in WWII.

Light one of our two available nukes over Tokyo Bay to scare the Japanese militarists.

Doing so, and everyone’s knowledge of how hard it was to get fissile material, they would have laughed and said well that’s one city that won’t be destroyed bet you can’t do it twice.
 
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From an artistic perspective this is actually quite good. But, it smacks of leftist motif, and all the usual signs of very lazy labeling. We got the Elon is a "Putin puppet", we got the "Nazi" in there, ohh and "traitor to the USA." I just wish the progressives could come up with fresh material, I mean for how long now have they been calling people they disagree with "Nazis?" it's all so boring and trite now....

Anyone ,and I mean everyone who wants peace is a Putin apologist.
He should shut down star link for maintenance.
 
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Hahaha!
Can they at least allocate some to go toward tit jobs and Brazilian butt lifts for the escorts
 
Yeah, I think that makes lots of sense. China needs a boogie man and perhaps we are the "evil distraction" in where the CCP can blame the US/The west for its woes. The Chinese public has been pushed quite a bit, especially with the authoritarian COVID policies, and massive two year long shut downs. A hot war would piss off a lot of Chinese off, especially if famalies start loosing their only sons. So, to your point, one of those detrimental policies being the "one child rule."

We are totally in a weakened state, ripe for the picking.
I'm worried because the best way to get rid of some of the problems China has is a big war

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Biden Considering Huge $100 Billion Ukraine Spending Package: Telegraph​

The idea of the huge spending package would be to fund the proxy war through the 2024 election without having to worry about the growing opposition to the policy in Congress, as the majority of the House and the Senate currently still support arming Ukraine.
 
Vladimir did it ,we have data !! 🤡
*No need to exacerbate cleavages Volodymir ,i find them cleavages on Ukrainian women i support just fine any deeper and poor things might catch a cold .

Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський

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We have data very clearly proving that Russia is interested in inciting war in the Middle East. So that a new source of pain and suffering would erode global unity and exacerbate cleavages and controversies, helping Russia in destroying freedom in Europe.
 
Vladimir did it ,we have data !! 🤡
*No need to exacerbate cleavages Volodymir ,i find them cleavages on Ukrainian women i support just fine any deeper and poor things might catch a cold .

Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський

@ZelenskyyUa
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1h
We have data very clearly proving that Russia is interested in inciting war in the Middle East. So that a new source of pain and suffering would erode global unity and exacerbate cleavages and controversies, helping Russia in destroying freedom in Europe.
Not an Ukraine supporter but wouldn’t that make sense from a Russian perspective? Ignite conflict in the Middle East and force the Brandon admin to support two conflicts as opposed to just Ukraine. If Israel requires US aid does that affect the quantity going to Ukraine?

Always give you adversary multiple dilemmas.
 
Not an Ukraine supporter but wouldn’t that make sense from a Russian perspective? Ignite conflict in the Middle East and force the Brandon admin to support two conflicts as opposed to just Ukraine. If Israel requires US aid does that affect the quantity going to Ukraine?

Always give you adversary multiple dilemmas.

Oh it definetly would be in the interest of Russia to have a distraction somewhere else, for War in Ukraine this is probably the best case they could hope for , but Russian relations with Israel are rather good and with Hamas not much aside from having a phone number, plus Gaza being isolated and all and if it went sideways and Russia was somehow implicated it would make things much worse , risks far outweigh the rewards
 
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Oh it definetly would be in the interest of Russia to have a distraction somewhere else, for War in Ukraine this is probably the best case they could hope for , but Russian relations with Israel are rather good and with Hamas not much aside from having a phone number, plus Gaza being isolated and all and if it went sideways and Russia was somehow implicated it would make things much worse , risks far outweigh the rewards
Fair points and that may be the case provided there is not a different desired end state.