The war in Ukraine and Donbas

The only thing missing from that idiot was, "I was going to volunteer to fight for Ukraine but they wouldn't let me because of my heart condition".

They have legalized marijuana in Nevada, don't they?
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Marijuana is responsible for the cheetos coming up missing... not weapons grade autism.
 
Or, perhaps all those people you are demonizing have spent years or decades looking at a lot of "news" that comes from the msm and have concluded that the vast majority of it is simply orchestrated and choreographed lies and bullshit.

How is it that YOU (and only you) have this magical, mystical crystal ball and only you can see clearly which media "products" are propoganda and which are valid ? That's quite an accomplishment right there. That's what I mean by "superior intellect".

Or, perhaps many people here have wised up and are able to recognize loads of bullshit when they see it. They've managed to overcome decades of brainwashing at the hands of msm and are able to think for themselves.

This whole Ukraine thing stinks to high heavens. The graft, corruption, slaughter, murder and just plain evil is off the charts. And, here I see Mike Johnson is working to get ANOTHER $80 Billion in "Aid" to Ukraine. This is fucking insanity.

And say what you will about Trump, I could care less. BUT, he would have put a stop to this insanity before it ever got started. THAT'S why they're going after him with such relentless fury, he's gonna shut off their power and money machine if they don't.
My insight comes from people on the ground as well as OSINT.

You realize MSM applies on both sides right? The starter of this thread does nothing but posts Russian state propaganda from Intel Slava Z. Propaganda exists on both sides, but to claim your propaganda is the truth is wild.

Like I said it's a stalemate, but Russia isn't winning, neither is Ukraine.

Why did the world see such a fallout with Prigozhin and Russia? Is memory so short? What was his issue? Why has Russia, a country of 144 million turned to drafts when it already has a professional military?

You really think a guy who added 8 trillions in debt to the US really would put a stop to this? Are you not aware of the defense spending waste that occurred under Trump? My favorite is the GM Colorado's for over $300k each.
 
My insight comes from people on the ground as well as OSINT.

You realize MSM applies on both sides right? The starter of this thread does nothing but posts Russian state propaganda from Intel Slava Z. Propaganda exists on both sides, but to claim your propaganda is the truth is wild.

Like I said it's a stalemate, but Russia isn't winning, neither is Ukraine.

Why did the world see such a fallout with Prigozhin and Russia? Is memory so short? What was his issue? Why has Russia, a country of 144 million turned to drafts when it already has a professional military?

You really think a guy who added 8 trillions in debt to the US really would put a stop to this? Are you not aware of the defense spending waste that occurred under Trump? My favorite is the GM Colorado's for over $300k each.
F.O. ! Already.
 
Awww, missing your Stalin you dirty fucking bolshevik. Sorry that this country hasn't worked out for you. Maybe stop being a commie bitch?
Don't you find it more than a little odd that staunch Conservatives are leaning in favor of Putin/Russia than the Biden regime/deep state/swamp ?

It's something you should think about, I think you're missing the point.
 
Don't you find it more than a little odd that staunch Conservatives are leaning in favor of Putin/Russia than the Biden regime/deep state/swamp ?

It's something you should think about, I think you're missing the point.
Who the fuck is the staunch conservative here? Biden makes fucking Putin look like the commie he is. Do you people not fucking understand how the Russian system works? Or is the propaganda that engrained. How many state owned companies has Biden formed? How much land has he seized? How much food has he rationed etc etc?

Like I said before, Biden is a fucking joke, but we have Biden because of the other fucking joke. A guy who was literally created by the MSM.
 
WTF does this have to do with Ukraine? This is like the COVID shit, you guys like to throw red herrings all over the place.
lol, you're so focused on transnistria, it was a joke.
also pointing out that instead of seeking peace, our state department is trying to push sexual deviancy and mental illness on our allies.
 
So you're using a known Russian propagandist to get your intel about Ukraine? Not sure how to counter that, let me go to foxnews.com to get some truths about the border. Not as if Bloomberg or another less bias source exists. Or maybe cnn.com to talk about ghost guns. The places you guys get your info is just wildly retarded.
Listen up, Dingleshit. I am only linking information on this thread and take pains not to go pro or con. And I take great care not to intentionally insult anyone. This whole Ukraine affair is nothing more than a complete shitshow, potentially leading to something far more catasrophic than it already is. Information is everywhere, its up to you to decide if its right or wrong, maybe even use a few of the axons and dendrites you have left to be able to read them critically to determine what is truth, what isn't, and what the grain of truth is within it. If your smooth brain cannot do that, it's on you. Go wave your village idiot flag somewhere else.
 
lol, you're so focused on transnistria, it was a joke.
also pointing out that instead of seeking peace, our state department is trying to push sexual deviancy and mental illness on our allies.
And bill gates, klaus schwab and noah harari certainly aren't unhappy with the results of the ongoing conflict..........
 
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Not following most of this B.S. However, I would like to point out that the US does not spend trillions of dollars on the military every year as was mentioned. It's hundreds of billions, but not trillions. Carry on.
You sure about that? You understand how debt works right? A 900 billion budget. Whats the interest payments on that?
 
Ok, this really makes me question your working in an ED. What's the etiology for most cancer patients? Or any serious illness? Really weird statement you just made.
You can question all you want to....however the fact remains that I worked in an ED.

As far as etiology is concerned, I'm sure COVID didn't cause the cancer or other diseases....just because they had the flu(COVID), I'm pretty sure tyats not why they died.

I noticed you didn't have any comeback for the GSWs listed as COVID deaths.....

The fact that you called my first hand knowledge of the subject into question is a very weird statement...considering all you have is "I heard or I saw" from third party sources......

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You can question all you want to....however the fact remains that I worked in an ED.

The fact that you called my first hand knowledge of the subject into question is a very weird statement.......

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The fact that you seem to think that people die of cancer and the cause of death is cancer is wild. I think that's why you won't answer my original question. You know damn well if you work in an ED etiology for someone who dies of cancer isn't going to say cancer.
 
Fucking hell, did you really just bring Douglas MacGregor into this? The guy whose now paid by Russian state media? Really guy. WTF. Would you likely me to go find an interview of a military colonel who isn't paid by Russia to give you a pro Russian stance on the war?

You know, you certainly throw around a lot of comments like "The guy whose (sp) now paid by Russian state media ?".

I'll take that comment at face value for the time being. Do what it is that you accuse others of NOT doing; Provide proof.

This is a lot of the reason no one is taking you seriously. You're shooting off your mouth, doing the same thing that you accuse others of.
 
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Most of you really don't have a real position on the war in Ukraine, you have a position on Biden vs Putin. It's fucking wild how well the Russian propaganda machine has worked. They're one of the best at it, so I guess it shouldn't be surprising. This entire thread is full of Russian sponsored facts, and they're reverberated over and over as truth. Just fucking parrots talking over one another the same BS. It's like being in a conversation with a bunch of broke sobs who are in favor of an ancap system. It just boggles the mind how people can hate their own country so much.
 
The fact that you seem to think that people die of cancer and the cause of death is cancer is wild. I think that's why you won't answer my original question. You know damn well if you work in an ED etiology for someone who dies of cancer isn't going to say cancer.
Please then tell me what it will say if they have cancer and died of cancer, all knowing......

Dox
 
You know, you certainly throw around a lot of comments like "The guy whose (sp) now paid by Russian state media ?".

I'll take that comment at face value for the time being. Do what it is that you accuse others of NOT doing; Provide proof.

This is a lot of the reason no one is taking you seriously. You're shooting off your mouth, doing the same thing that you accuse others of.
https://www.rt.com/news/587966-douglas-macgregor-ukraine-war-lost/ he's a paid commentor for RT
 
Please then tell me what it will say if they have cancer and died of cancer, all knowing......

Dox
Depends, you know, Usually something like you know respiratory failure, cardiac arrest etc. etc. It's the immediate cause of death in most cases. That's how it works. Not the underlying, that's the secondary cause. But statistically it's the immediate. You know if you get hit by a bus and make it to the hospital and die from blood loss it's not going to say "Hit by a fucking bus" on your death certificate. But you either know this and are playing ignorant now, or your ignorant to it. Both are bad.
 
Please then tell me what it will say if they have cancer and died of cancer, all knowing......

Dox
So cancer causes the immune system to be depleted, person dies from flu, healthy person wouldn't have died from flu, so in fact cancer causes them to die, not the flu, cause if they didn't have cancer, they wouldn't have died from flu......those are facts....

What part don't I understand now.....

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Most of you really don't have a real position on the war in Ukraine, you have a position on Biden vs Putin. It's fucking wild how well the Russian propaganda machine has worked. They're one of the best at it, so I guess it shouldn't be surprising. This entire thread is full of Russian sponsored facts, and they're reverberated over and over as truth. Just fucking parrots talking over one another the same BS. It's like being in a conversation with a bunch of broke sobs who are in favor of an ancap system. It just boggles the mind how people can hate their own country so much.
You haven't gotten around to throwing down the "Groupthink" card yet. C'mon, do it. You know you want to.

Oh, and for the record, I really wish the cia and the mic hadn't installed a puppet regime in Ukraine in 2015, built/funded/underwrote 38 biolabs there, poked the bear, are killing hundreds of thousands (many innocents) and are taking us to the brink of Nuclear Armageddon.

I would have thought that would have been more than obvious. Again, you seem to be missing a lot of points this morning.
 
Depends, you know, Usually something like you know respiratory failure, cardiac arrest etc. etc. It's the immediate cause of death in most cases. That's how it works. Not the underlying, that's the secondary cause. But statistically it's the immediate. You know if you get hit by a bus and make it to the hospital and die from blood loss it's not going to say "Hit by a fucking bus" on your death certificate. But you either know this and are playing ignorant now, or your ignorant to it. Both are bad.
If you get hit by a bus, it will be listed as pedestrian vs MVA......

Facts again....but I'm sure you don't like facts.....

Have you actually seen a death cert.....

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So cancer causes the immune system to be depleted, person dies from flu, healthy person wouldn't have died from flu, so in fact cancer causes them to die, not the flu, cause if they didn't have cancer, they wouldn't have died from flu......those are facts....

What part don't I understand now.....

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WTF are you talking about. You added an entirely new variable to defend your position. Now they have cancer and they got sick with the flu? Sure it's likely the flu that killed them. But it still wasn't the flu, it was the fact that they got likely pneumonia as a result of the flu, due to a weakened immune via cancer. I know someone bit by an animal and died due to being in remission from cancer, shit happens. But that has shit to do with what we are talking about. We are talking about cause of death, not all the wild shit that can happen. Even if you never get a secondary infection etc with cancer you won't die from the cancer. You'll die from the mechanisms of the cancer growth and the impact on the systems of our bodies. Pancreatic cancer would never kill you if it didn't cause organs to fail. Same with the flu would never kill if it didn't cause inflammation (over simplification) in the body.

You're moving the goal post to support not being wrong when you could just own your original post and say you mis spoke, or simply didn't add enough detail.
 
If you get hit by a bus, it will be listed as pedestrian vs MVA......

Facts again....but I'm sure you don't like facts.....

Have you actually seen a death cert.....

Doc
LMAO, yes I've seen a few. And you're full of shit. In my scenario the cause of death will be exsanguination, the antecedent would likely be injuries sustained from the accident, the manner would likely be an accident. Kind of shitty when someone actually knows and you can't bullshit. It's like I know something about this shit or something.
 
So, RT does an article on McGregor's post on X (Twitter) and you stretch that to say that he's a "paid commentator" for RT ? When, in fact, McGregor DID NOT "write the article for RT", it was an article written by RT about McGregor's post on X.

Nor, did I see anywhere on the RT page where anyone said anything about McGregor being a "paid commentator" for RT.

That's really lame. You're either extremely stupid or a terrible liar.
 
Actually quite a bit less. He's on track to do about 7 trillion. A whole trillion less. Wild amount still.
2016-2020 went from 19.5 to 26.9 trillion(which includes all of 2020, after Trump left office)
2021-present 26.9 to 34.6 and we still have 8 months left of 2024.

So who made more debt.......

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2016-2020 went from 19.5 to 26.9 trillion(which includes all of 2020, after Trump left office)
2021-present 26.9 to 34.6 and we still have 8 months left of 2024.

So who made more debt.......

Doc

Biden might hit 7.9, he may hit 7 So lets call it 7.5, We will know the real cost after he's out of office. Not sure how you came to your numbers.
 
LMAO, yes I've seen a few. And you're full of shit. In my scenario the cause of death will be exsanguination, the antecedent would likely be injuries sustained from the accident, the manner would likely be an accident. Kind of shitty when someone actually knows and you can't bullshit. It's like I know something about this shit or something.
You have no clue as to this stuff, and you aren't calling me on any BS.......

Please tell us all of your experience in medicine.....is it from WebMd.com

It's easy to Google words......

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Biden might hit 7.9, he may hit 7 So lets call it 7.5, We will know the real cost after he's out of office. Not sure how you came to your numbers.




These two sites

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So, RT does an article on McGregor's post on X (Twitter) and you stretch that to say that he's a "paid commentator" for RT ? When, in fact, McGregor DID NOT "write the article for RT", it was an article written by RT about McGregor's post on X.

Nor, did I see anywhere on the RT page where anyone said anything about McGregor being a "paid commentator" for RT.

That's really lame. You're either extremely stupid or a terrible liar.
He literally gets paid by the RT. He hasn't made this a secret. He's a big supporter of Putin.
 
You have no clue as to this stuff, and you aren't calling me on any BS.......

Sounds tell us all of your experience in medicine.....is it from WebMd.com

It's easy to Google words......

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Nope, not WebMD. I did get a fairly average 30 on the MCAT back before the scale change. But I never pursued medicine in a way that would take me to an ER. I can run a vent however, bag a patient, do trach care, the normal basic stuff. Not a picc or anything like that. But again that's anecdotal, all that matters is what's on death cert and what you claimed was BS. Nobody puts hit by a bus as primary cause.
 
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Show us proof of him getting paid by RT or you're full of shit.....

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LMFAO, show my proof of trump being a billionaire. I'm not the IRS. If he has stated in interviews before that he's paid for his articles on RT, and that he's frequently published on RT, and he is even on Russian TV at times, do you think he's not being paid? Do you think his retirement is that great? Pretty much anyone being interviewed in a professional capacity is paid. That's how it works, unless it benefits you as well, such as a CEO etc talking about your new product. Even ex politicians get paid to be interviewed.
 




These two sites

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FYI USdebtclock is a approximation not precise view of the debt. It doesn't take everything into account. It's fairly accurate, but is still often off by a fairly decent amount. I mean 400 billion when you're talking 35 trillion isn't too bad.