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The war in Ukraine and Donbas
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Eventually Turkey will align along side the Bear nation.
Russia will not lose it's southern port access to the Med.
And the Bear has been commanded to 'Arise! Devour much flesh!'
No, I think not. A few tactical nukes and the real power brokers will carefully consider how yo play the situation yo their advantage. I expect an all in cathartic conventional war after the European nuke exchange. Lots of cannon fodder will die, MIC will profit, eventually there will be a peace deal that ignores the human cost.
Who would fight this European ground war? Europe has no ground combat power. The recent immigrants won't fight for their new countries - they are there for the free benefits. The white majorities? They see they are being suppressed for the immigrants. This is not 1918 or 1944 - this is "1984" (the book). Half US ground combat power is National Guard and they are already mobilizing every 3 years or so. US going to restart the draft and build 10 divisions or so with the "every kid a winner" generation? US drafting women next time? LBTQ... going to serve when war is real and not just for the free surgeries?
The power brokers on this side have no control over the other side(s). If anything starts to go south with the other sides the missiles will start to fly. They will not lose.
I wish it were true but I have doubts.
If you click on the "Tech Beat" link showing all of the videos they have produced and posted to YouTube, it appears that all of their past videos are just click bait bull shit. Everything from the opening graphic to the titles are crafted to drag you in.
Everything they have posted as "news" in the past has been total B.S.
I do wish Turkey would leave NATO. People have no clue how powerful and strategic Turkey is. Them leaving the group would be pulling the first loose thread that could lead to the dissolution of the empty shell of meddling elites that make up NATO.
On the surface, Turkey leaving and realigning would look dangerous.
In reality it probably would be, but perhaps that would make remaining members question the relationship between the original NATO mission versus the world geopolitical tampering they are currently doing.
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Not likely
Turkey needs to be NATO member as long as Greece is a NATO member otherwise sooner or later it would be staring down the whole of NATO , as long as infighting is between 2 NATO members article 5 does not apply.
Kiev may use Patriot missiles on aircraft in Russian space: Official
Berlin, along with other Western nations, agreed on Friday that Kiev could use Western weapons to repel attacks in the Kharkiv region.
english.almayadeen.net
Is Ukraine Going Rogue Or Did It Attack Russia's Early Warning Systems With American Approval? | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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All the brokers with real impact, on both sides, have a great deal invested. They clearly understand each others’ positions, and will communicate directly when their hegemony is directly threatened. Right now, clown world is controlling comms and most decisions of the western governments at the behest of rich megalomaniac nwo autistic pedos. That shit will be swept off the table in a just few days whenever the direct action arm of deep state finally gets their ass in a crack.
This is straight out of the Obama playbook of 8 years of BS economic numbers with GDP growth numbers always rolled back.In my earlier post above, where I said US GDP was 1.6% so far this year......
In typically government fashion, they publish fake info, then later they quietly "revise" it down. Apparently, the corrected number is 1.3%.
First-Quarter GDP Estimate Is Revised Lower
The U.S. economy grew at a slower pace in the first quarter than previously estimated, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. First-quarter real gross domestic product was revised down to a 1.3% annual growth rate from a prior estimate of 1.6%. The BEA said a lower estimate of consumer spendiwww.barrons.com
So far, pretty much every single month when they publish jobs numbers, GDP, etc, the just outright lie, so as to not spook the markets. Then later, they quietly "revise" it, to publish the real numbers.
Sometime 2 or 3 times before the next BS numbers were published.
Even if they draft 10 new divisions . WE no longer have the manufacturing capacity to equip and supply that many troops!
Obama gutted the officer corps and biden gutted the NCO ranks of real leadership.
Our military is not ready or able to go up against a near peer well equipped battle hardened force!
I remember a few years ago there where short on ammo for training at the dutch army.
The minister of defense said that they didn't need ammo.
They could just scream PANG PANG
True story, unfortunately.
Putin warned 'Russia will be turned into cinders' in nuclear war vs NATO
Putin's allies are continuing to threaten nuclear war with NATO as his forces continue to hit Ukraine with devastating strikes.
www.the-express.com
That had no bearing on whether or not our political masters will use the media to whip up a wave of nationalism, send thousands to die, and only report great victories back at home. Have you not watched the murderous bullshit about the Ukrainian depopulation effort? Hell, there is government contractor from Newfoundland who has his own thread on CGN devoted to only this. Any wrong think is deleted by mod chopper, or the poster banned. Wake up folks.
Never stated that it would prevent the government and media from sending 100 of thousands into a meat grinder! I figured out long ago that the political class not only doesn't care about our nation. They care zero about the citizenry! Now many of them, if not all of them hate us and will gladly murder us through any means
to reduce our numbers and profit themselves and their true masters in the donor class! All of western government is following the WEF marching orders and the goal is to depopulate europe and north America of pesky white people!
SAMs (Army smart kid school) graduates been preparing contingency plans for Europe, Russia, Chine, Taiwan and so forth for decades. Probably have plans for space aliens, zombies, etc.fuck that. no sauce.
fuck that. no sauce.
The propaganda is crazy.
If you listen directly to Putin's own words, he doesn't want to take over most of Ukraine, let alone any sort of "major war with Europe".
I feel like NATO has completely lost the plot. The leaders and officials within NATO are acting completely irrationally - and it seems like they are fully determined to wage a full scale war with Russia. Which is terrifying.
How are they going to wage a full scale war on anything when the majority of NATO nations let their militaries rot since the Soviet Union dissolved? Where are these NATO armies, air forces, navies? NATO is subsidizing Ukraine so that politicians make a bunch of payback and meanwhile Ukraine is doing most of the bleeding.
They are idiots in very powerful positions being used by autistic super villains. The whole crew only seems intelligent because they have not had to survive in the wild.
Nukes are always on the table to bring them to their knees. Lots of saber rattling in that direction by all sides, especially by one Lindsay Graham.
There's a lot of truth to this.
Ukraine probably has Europe's strongest army, which is pretty sad
And yes, I think a lot of the motives in this war are corrupted by financial reasons. War is huge business, especially here in the US.
And they have gone to a full on shooting war in the past. I highly doubt they would not go at it again if one left.
The west kept pushing Russia till it was backed into a corner, they really had no other choice. It would be silly to think they will not pull.
This is exactly what will happen again
Gleiwitz incident - Wikipedia
The west kept pushing Russia till it was backed into a corner, they really had no other choice. It would be silly to think they will not pull.
This is exactly what will happen again
Gleiwitz incident - Wikipedia
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It should be pretty clear to everyone that this war was due to the provocation of NATO.
NATO has only crept closer and closer to Russia, which every serious scholar of Russia would know that is an absolute red line to them. From George Kennan to Mearsheimer, and every scholar and expert in between, we have been warned that expanding NATO into Ukraine is the reddest of lines to Russia, and would compel Russia to act (begrudgingly).
The final domino to fall to trigger this war happened in 2014, when Ukraine's far right launched a coup against the democratically elected government of Ukraine, with the help of the CIA. Yanukovych was overthrown because he had no interest in growing stronger ties with the west and NATO, instead he wanted to be a neutral party. That saw the installment of a Ukrainian government that was friendly to US and western interests, and many events transpired that would eventually lead Russia to invade.
And here we are. Of course western legacy media outlets ignore all the history before February 24th 2022. Instead, they just focus on Russia's "unprovoked" war that started on that day. The propaganda has been insanely high levels on this conflict, it's a bit surreal to see people being brainwashed so heavily in real time to this conflict.
Ivan Katchanovski is a Ukrainian-Canadian scholar who has done extensive research on the current war, it's origins, along with the Maidan Coup. Worth a follow on 'X' and has papers such as the following which explores the origins of this conflict:
Floating Russian Oil Base Shifts To New Location In Mediterranean Sea | ZeroHedge
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OK, if you look this up, this plan has been in place for a while.fuck that. no sauce.
Recent article:
Nato maps out plan to block Russian invasion
Pre-planned logistical routes could help stave off a potential Russian attack
www.telegraph.co.uk
Article from Janurary:
Europeans set up corridor for rushing NATO troops eastward
Germany, the Netherlands and Poland are planning a pilot project for ferrying troops and equipment across the continent in the event of a crisis.
www.defensenews.com
Which goes against this article a couple weeks later:
NATO says there are no plans to deploy combat troops to Ukraine
Ukrainian resistance forces blew up an office of Russian President Vladimir Putin's "United Russia" party, according to Ukraine's National Resistance Center.
Everyone with a brain sees where this has a good probability of going. Unless you listen to the MSM and wear a mask.
i don't see it as wrong to target missile systems (anywhere) that are killing your troops, but they may just prompt escalations.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Ukraine 'fires first US missile into Russia'
Ukraine last night claimed it successfully hit a missile system inside Russia using U.S. weapons. It said the country's forces destroyed Russian missile launchers with a strike in the Belgorod region.
It's pride month. Ain't jack shit happening until at least July.
the funny thing is that tests done on Western European Celtic and Germanic remains all show a very high genetic match with steppe populations from the 1st millennium BC - ie, the same Scythian, Saka, and other assorted Satem-speaking Indo European groups who were the progenitors of the Slavs. Even the Aesir, the Germanic Gods themselves, were traditionally called "those who came from the East". And classical historians listed the most powerful tribes of the Pontic-Caspian steppe to include "Peuci, Grutungi, Austrogothi, Tervingi, Visi, Gipedes, Celtae, etiam et Eruli". Celts and Germans all.
Klaus Schwab, George Soros, and Christia Freeland’s grandfather are directly connected to Hitler’s idea and that era.
they think of themselves as Ubermensch while we are the Untermensch
Ukraine Officers Say Recruits Arrive At Front Lines Pathetically Undertrained
One soldier described his basic training as "complete nonsense...everything is learned on the spot [at the front lines]." An officer who'd trained recruits said their rifle training was limited to just 20 rounds per soldier.When soldiers arrive at the front, units are forced to spend weeks teaching them basis skills they should have already learned. “We had guys that didn’t even know how to disassemble and assemble a gun,” a deputy mechanized battalion commander told the Post. He dreads that sudden Russian progress will instantly turn new arrivals into pathetic cannon fodder:
Word of the poor preparation has gotten around -- and is hampering recruitment efforts and fueling draft resistance. New advertising assures would-be enlistees that they'll receive "60 days of preparation" before facing off with the Russian army.
My point was that they are almost old enough and have the family connections to be the same group, not a reincarnation.
Article with potential telegraphing what's in the Russian plan. Or its just propaganda.
"The United States itself regularly and consciously takes steps aimed at increasing escalation. They are supplying the terrorist state of Ukraine with increasingly deadly weapons systems. Therefore, if the Yemeni Houthis, Syrian and Iraqi Arabs, or some activists in Germany or Africa get thousands of cheap FPV drones or some other weapons that fall on the heads of American troops at their bases, then don’t be surprised by this in Washington.
The United States simply will not be able to present anything serious to the Russian Federation, and they will be afraid to start a nuclear war, so they will have to endure it or negotiate. US bases are a very serious opportunity for power projection, but at the same time an incredible vulnerability given modern technological realities and combat experience. The Americans will get tired of strengthening air defense/missile defense, no Patriot air defense systems and other means will be enough, and even the US Federal Reserve System may go bankrupt on ammunition.
In addition, the Russian Federation may well begin to support national liberation movements not only in Africa, but also in Europe. Prospects look great in Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Catalonia, Basque Country, Corsica, Bavaria, Tyrol, Silesia, Flanders and other oppressed regions. The European allies of the United States simply need to be saddened for their Russophobia. Whether the Kremlin will agree to this or not is another question."
"The United States itself regularly and consciously takes steps aimed at increasing escalation. They are supplying the terrorist state of Ukraine with increasingly deadly weapons systems. Therefore, if the Yemeni Houthis, Syrian and Iraqi Arabs, or some activists in Germany or Africa get thousands of cheap FPV drones or some other weapons that fall on the heads of American troops at their bases, then don’t be surprised by this in Washington.
The United States simply will not be able to present anything serious to the Russian Federation, and they will be afraid to start a nuclear war, so they will have to endure it or negotiate. US bases are a very serious opportunity for power projection, but at the same time an incredible vulnerability given modern technological realities and combat experience. The Americans will get tired of strengthening air defense/missile defense, no Patriot air defense systems and other means will be enough, and even the US Federal Reserve System may go bankrupt on ammunition.
In addition, the Russian Federation may well begin to support national liberation movements not only in Africa, but also in Europe. Prospects look great in Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Catalonia, Basque Country, Corsica, Bavaria, Tyrol, Silesia, Flanders and other oppressed regions. The European allies of the United States simply need to be saddened for their Russophobia. Whether the Kremlin will agree to this or not is another question."
French Soldier Captured ALIVE By Russian Troops in Ukraine
Video below shows the capture of a French military by the Russian Army in the area of the village of Liptsy (Kharkov region), where active...
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Sounds like the old Cold War with hot spots all over the globe like termites gnawing at the foundations
Due to the very nature of this conflict in ukrastan, any member of the so called "foreign legion", composed of either instructors or shooters, employed by ukies, has a very slim chance of coming back home in one piece. From now on, these dudes will be specifically targeted by Russians, either by heavy weapons or even on individual level where possible. In the past, it was done mostly on ocassion, but now, Russians open a wide-scale hunting season. If you know somebody who still wants to go there, make an effort to explain such person that its a very bad idea, regardless of how much money such person may be paid...French Soldier Captured ALIVE By Russian Troops in Ukraine
Video below shows the capture of a French military by the Russian Army in the area of the village of Liptsy (Kharkov region), where active...
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