Guess I will try have to try out the vip warrenty at vortex, I was climbing a steep hill with my rifle and viper scope on a sling when it slipped off my shoulder and hit the bell of the scope square on a rock denting the bell, glass still looks alright but shoots about 20 MOA high now :-(, the first point of impact was the scope then the rifle, but four days earlier I busted a big bull elk with it, he didnt even take a step at 350 yds, that 300 grn slug from a 338-378 weatherby flat knocked him on his ass LOL