Ukraine war Bullshit.

That's what the Kremlin propaganda of today will tell you, but nobody with the Brain Unit switched on is slurping that Commie drool.

This is just another chapter in the war between the Free World (Western Liberal Democracy) vs the Evil Empire (Authoritarian Despotism).

It's not as-old-as when Patton said we should have been slaying Rooskie Animals by the thousands either... it's even older than the Commies, and it has its roots in the Golden Horde conquering the people of Olde-Tyme-Rus and then transitioning to the rule of the Tsars... which is not "their word for a King."
Hey knit wit, have you not seen the fawning 60 Minutes segment on Germany is imprisoning people for criticizing their government and policies. If the term "Western Democracies" means anything useful or principled it would seem that Western Europe is fast being lost from within, and the Eastern Europeans are the only ones who actually believe in and will protect basic human rights and liberties.

You should watch Vance's speech in Munich. He pretty much nails reality and dispels bullshit terms that no longer apply like "Western Democracies". There is no such thing as authoritarianism or totalitarianism in the service of liberal government and human rights. The things are opposites, and it makes about as much sense as fighting racism by instilling more racism in our children, which is another leftist policy.

You are the same fucking people we fight every single time, and you are constantly looking backwards through a distorted lens and calling us what you in fact are. There aren't "good" authoritarians unless you are talking kings ruling over an ignorant people who have a shitty culture. Then pushing for democracy or federalism is just stupid, as we have found yet again by our adventures in the Middle East. A king is right for those people.
 
lol, you posted a link that was funded by usaid and the war mongering deep state to defend Ukraine as a "sovereign" nation?
they are a puppet state.
Your opinion of the Ukrainian government and the content of the article is irrelevant. It "supports" the DEFINITION of "sovereign country". I am not going to explain this to you any further, it is quite tedious,
 
  • Haha
Reactions: theLBC
I will ask again. Should we have sided with Germany in their war with the USSR?

I will answer- No... and WWII was not "Germany in their war with the USSR."

Did you know that Germany and the Soviet Union signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact on August 23, 1939?

Do you even know how WWII started?

Do you know how Germany ended up fighting the USSR? (Hint: WWII was not "Germany in their war with the USSR.")
 
I will answer- No... and WWII was not "Germany in their war with the USSR."

Did you know that Germany and the Soviet Union signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact on August 23, 1939?

Do you even know how WWII started?

Do you know how Germany ended up fighting the USSR? (Hint: WWII was not "Germany in their war with the USSR.")

So sidding with the lesser of two evils is OK. That is what is going on now.

And yes I do know. WWII was started by the Englich and French.
 
WWII was started by weak leaders who chose the path of appeasement rather than confronting Evil head-on.

That is what is going on now.

No, it was started by greed. And the countries that wanted to profit from another country.

That IS what is going on now. You need to do a little more research and look farther back on things in order to see the big picture and the second and third order effects of actions.
 
Your opinion of the Ukrainian government and the content of the article is irrelevant. It "supports" the DEFINITION of "sovereign country". I am not going to explain this to you any further, it is quite tedious,
ukraine cannot survive without handouts from the west, hence they have to do what the west tells them to do.

zelensky was willing to have peace talks early on, but boris johnson told him he could not.

this is not a sovereign country, it is a puppet state.
 
Last edited:
Well, that would be the Kremlin messaging that has been adopted by their Pawn in the Oval Office... but factually, this is false.

Americans believe in our values and culture, and believe in the liberation of former Iron Curtain countries.

We welcome them into the Free World- just as we welcome Commies into the Next World...
^^^^^^PROOF^^^^^^ that propaganda works
 
ukraine cannot survive without handouts from the west, hence they have to do what the west tells them to do.

zelensky was willing to have peace talks early on, but boris johnson told him he could not.
this is not a sovereign country, it is a puppet state.
If they say it loud enough, often enough and long enough it becomes fact. At least in their reality
 
Typical, change the definition of anything to suit your own reality.
"If you want the billion dollars you will fire him. Wadda ya know? Son of a bitch! 24 hours later they fired him".
Sounds pretty sovereign to me. <----- sarcasm, just in case there's a misunderstanding
 
OMG. As per usual, you make a moronic claim and decline to support it. It is SOP here, apparently. It really would be much easier to simply not post. Oh well.



In your own words... You made a statement, back it up. I am not clicking on your links.

You claimed Ukraine is a Sovereign country, prove it, again in your own words.
 
In your own words... You made a statement, back it up. I am not clicking on your links.

You claimed Ukraine is a Sovereign country, prove it, again in your own words.
His statement went in the trash after Joe potato blackmailed them into firing a government official for money.
 
His statement went in the trash after Joe potato blackmailed them into firing a government official for money.
Before that... maybe when they Coup'd the elected President.
Screen Shot 2025-02-19 at 12.32.43 PM.png


Yanukovych easily won the election by a fair margin. Most Ukrainians supported him. It was the west and foreign( notice how close that is to sovregin) influence that wanted him gone.
 

Attachments

  • 82544074960100640360no.jpg
    82544074960100640360no.jpg
    171.7 KB · Views: 18
  • hjkbvhjkghjhjjhg.jpg
    hjkbvhjkghjhjjhg.jpg
    102 KB · Views: 14
What a massive display of support for Ukraine today. It's almost like they are getting completely crushed and this is a last ditch effort to affect the negotiations of their surrender.
really you guys should quite arguing with these trolls. ie if they are not in fact the same dork. they are just here to clog the drain. if you quite trying to respond to them with facts,maybe they will go away. maybe Nuland will take them off the payroll?
 
..... if that were true you would be way too old to know what a computer is..... ;)

I too am a cold way Vet. I get it. The plastic pop up targets that the Army uses we the old Soviet outlines well into the 2000s.

Things change.
Yes, they do, and they have. Who would have thought that the consensus view in Europe is that human beings have no rights but those granted by government, which is basically what happens when you eliminate religion and replace it with a nanny state. Europe is becoming the USSR, and it did not take very long.
 
Yes, they do, and they have. Who would have thought that the consensus view in Europe is that human beings have no rights but those granted by government, which is basically what happens when you eliminate religion and replace it with a nanny state. Europe is becoming the USSR, and it did not take very long.
I believe Gorbachev once referred to it as the “EUSSR”
 
  • Like
Reactions: theLBC
Well, of course it did. If it doesn't come from your echo chamber, can't risk it it polluting your mind. Wise choice
So it's a sovereign state but with the EU and USA's hands up their ass using them as a sock puppet. I see how that could make sense. In a retarded person's mind
 
He wasn't just killed, he was tortured. Although, we did the exact same thing to J6'ers, so hard to claim the higher ground on this one.

Wait... we tortured the insurrectionists??

Why was I not invited? 🤪

In reality, Gonzo Lira was faking it for those dirty, dirty rubles.... saying that the Bucha massacre didn't happen, Zelensky was a Jewish Nazi Storm Trooper, Russia was not attacking healthcare workers and infrastructure, etc...

Americans actually wish he got paid up in full, and made himself square... but he actually died from pneumonia in prison for being a shit bird.
 
Wait... we tortured the insurrectionists??

Why was I not invited? 🤪

In reality, Gonzo Lira was faking it for those dirty, dirty rubles.... saying that the Bucha massacre didn't happen, Zelensky was a Jewish Nazi Storm Trooper, Russia was not attacking healthcare workers and infrastructure, etc...

Americans actually wish he got paid up in full, and made himself square... but he actually died from pneumonia in prison for being a shit bird.
we?

i used to have a lot of sympathy for ukrainians, believing they were the victims of this proxy war.
not anymore. fuck ukraine.
 
What a massive display of support for Ukraine today. It's almost like they are getting completely crushed and this is a last ditch effort to affect the negotiations of their surrender.
I’m hearing that there is potential that Putin might not negotiate and might push all the way to the Dnieper river. Not sure how legit or illegitimate that is.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Yasherka
I will answer- No... and WWII was not "Germany in their war with the USSR."

Did you know that Germany and the Soviet Union signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact on August 23, 1939?

Do you even know how WWII started?

Do you know how Germany ended up fighting the USSR? (Hint: WWII was not "Germany in their war with the USSR.")
do you know that western powers bankrolled the nazis because they were afraid the bolsheviks and communism would spread and the wealth they had spent generations to obtain was at risk? a strong germany was thought to have been a bulwark against the spread of communism.

the germany vs ussr question is sort of moot because as we know, the soviet union collapsed (as happens to every communist state, so far).
the problem is that the bolsheviks didn't cease to exist, they simply spread out and infiltrated europe and the united states.
 
Last edited:
I used a phrase, YOU claimed I used the phrase incorrectly. Prove it. You won't, as you can't
IMG_1307.jpg


You really think Ukraine... EVER.... had full political Independence?














Which is why I meme...
1740011927607.png



So Mr. Smarty pants, explain to me how Ukraine ever had full political independence? IE, been a Sovereign nation.

Edit- Side not, Notice, the US is the one reaching out to negotiate a settlement... and if it pulls funding and support. Ukraine will get pushed back to the Dniper. Remember US Himars, are the reason Russia was pushed back across the Dniper. With out them, they would have taken Odessa by now.
 
So it's a sovereign state but with the EU and USA's hands up their ass using them as a sock puppet. I see how that could make sense. In a retarded person's mind
:rolleyes:
Sovereign country (state) has a specific definition, it is not a matter of opinion. US, UK, Ukraine, etc are sovereign countries. Puerto Rico, Greenland, Morocco, Cyprus, etc., are not. Your opinion is irrelevant.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: ken226
They've had like 3yrs of this shit if he was gonna push it would've happened by now
Maybe

One of the outputs of the MDMP process is a commander & staff shared understanding of their capabilities, the enemy, and the terrain. I suspect that in Russia’s initial planning they probably understood that they could not seize that much terrain in the initial phase of the operation WITH THE CAPABILITY THEY HAD AT THE TIME. So they opted to fix the Ukrainian military at multiple points to enable success in the South, which I think was the initial objective.

Now conditions have changed in Russia from three years ago. Their defense manufacturing base has ramped up, they have initiated several mobilizations (more likely on the way), and most importantly they have adapted to Western capabilities & doctrine. Combine that with the non sustainable attrition rates that Ukraine has had and it might be kind of tempting to make that push to the Dnieper river. Or maybe not, we shall see.

Either way both sides need to up their Air game.
 
:rolleyes:
Sovereign country (state) has a specific definition, it is not a matter of opinion. US, UK, Ukraine, etc are sovereign countries. Puerto Rico, Greenland, Morocco, Cyprus, etc., are not. Your opinion is irrelevant.
Kinda seems like a country or state can claim sovereignty, but only if they can keep it.
If they get run over by another, then they ain't so sovereign, are they?
 
So after we dropped some really dirty nuclear bombs on 2 cities in Japan they well bulldozed over the top of it and rebuilt the cities.
Slightly higher cancer rates, but that's life.

But I'd be really disappointed if we don't get that promised Nuclear Winter, I was counting on that to freeze all the stupid greenies and earth worshipers and carbon cultists into ice blocks and get rid of a bunch of troublesome and demanding natives.
One of two things would happen. The end of chiggers as we know it. OR giant swarms of chiggers overtake the western United States!
 
...because as we know, the soviet union collapsed

"Collapsed," and exists today in the same sad state, with very little changed at all.

bolsheviks didn't cease to exist, they simply spread out and infiltrated europe and the united states.

...and you seem to have all found a home in The Bear Pit on The Sniper's Hide.

Every one of Germany’s action where a precursor to the the war with the soviets.

So, you don't know a lot about history. Cool!
 
  • Like
Reactions: AZLong