Va Gun Confiscation Looming!

[HeavyAssault]

Well there's only so many state level "public safety employee" out there.

>>>be deemed to have terminated his employment and shall thereafter be ineligible for employment in any position or capacity during the next twelve 12 months by the Commonwealth, or any county, city, town or other political subdivision of the Commonwealth, or by any department or agency of any of them.

Well...HOW IN THE HELL...can the VA state now be the ONLY Human Resources over ALL the locality governments???????? LMAO I read this as "The VA state GOV no longer recognizes the locality governments. Therefore the locally elected officials have no standing in the eyes of the VA state government." That's pretty much unconstitutional in the VA constitution.

Pass this into law.....I dare you.

 

[Vamike9]

The law is just another word when it is unconstitutional.
We aren't backing down, they aren't backing down.
Let's see how that works for them?

 

[ForgeValley]

Update:

Newly proposed legislation seeks to terminate and bar from further employment for the next 22 months any law enforcement officer refusing to perform the duties of his employment.

Bill Tracking - 2020 session > Legislation

That's right, piss off local LE even more. Nice way to ensure they aren't on your side.

Democrats are so stupid it makes my head hurt.

Let's see, you are giving me a choice of shooting grandpappy in the face or loose my employment and ability to provide for myself and my family and all hope of employment in my field for 2 years....

Maybe I will just shoot you in the face?

 

[BoilerUP]

Its almost comical...they HAVE to be trolling, hoping to illicit a response that damages the credibility of pro-2A advocates.

Because if they aren’t, the wakeup call to reality may be a bit...rude.

 

[FS1]

Pictures and addresses of the traitorous politicians need to be posted everywhere.

Church bulletin boards, tack shops, gun stores, bars, etc.


If you can afford billboards then put up “ Northam is a baby-killing Nazi” or “Democrats want us dead”

Nope, just a billboard with a picture of a noose and the words; “The Cure for Treason... since 1776”.

 

[Expert684]

They could not fire all LE, who would protect the commies from a hanging??

 

[footsteps]

Those who would come would have a bad day I'm thinking ? . After a few days they just might be met at their driveways and asked politely to take a few days off.. Tough situation for all to be put in for sure due to the Liberial.... Even Farahkan said the greatest threat to America is the Liberial and that was 50 years ago...

 

[Jlknights61]

Apparently the national guard.

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

A good leader doesn't give orders that his men can't follow. I think General Anthony Clement "Nuts" McAuliffe said that.

Fitting.

 

[myronman3]

#1. fuck the nra.

#2. See #1.

#3. As some have said, keep their names and home addresses. Chew their asses in public. Surround their houses. and their offices.

#4. Pass a law that anyone attempting to pass a law or ordnance in conflict with the CONUS is guilty of a felony and minimum sentencing is ten years. And enforce the shit out of it.

I have to give it to my countrymen in Virginia (by GOD!). The antis have kicked a hornets nest and you boys seem to be all over their asses. I am really tempted to buy an ar and deliver it to a deserving patriot in your great state.

 

[TheMammoth]

True, but the peeps have never been so pissed. One question the NG guys will have to ask themselves. Do I want to kill Americans? Most can read I would surmise. The US Constitution and the 2A may just make them question where their true loyalties lie.

I mean this was answered on May 4th 1970.
They absolutely will kill no ifs, ands or buts. Everyone needs to start operating on that fact also.
Just hoping your local boots won’t step is an awfully shit way to go.

 

[hic28]

I mean this was answered on May 4th 1970.
They absolutely will kill no ifs, ands or buts. Everyone needs to start operating on that fact also.
Just hoping your local boots won’t step is an awfully shit way to go.

cowabunga it is

 

[Vamike9]

Do they not realize that the sheriff is an elected position by the people, just like they are?
I got a feeling pro 2A Sheriff's are gonna be fed up even more now.
Tyranny at its worst.

 

[wilson1911]

I still don't see anyone willing to water the tree of liberty. Charismatic words have never fixed these problems from either side, only the barrel of a gun will bring change. This is what we have forgotten. If you few good men back down, the rest of the country will follow.

This is not some smallish weed you can pluck from the ground, but a mighty tree with deep roots.

 

[davsco]

all this absolute BS going down, just to disarm LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS. and now they're going to fire LEO for not following their laws, constitutional or not.

at first they were going to take all the AR's. then ralph comes out and says 'no, we're reasonable, you can keep them,' just register them. then this over-the-top LEO edict comes down. almost makes it sound like ban/confiscation was/is still their game plan. why be so heavy-handed otherwise.

 

[Vamike9]

I don't know about everyone but I value human life.
There's a time and place for war but that's when all options have been exhausted.
No one is trying to be cool here, we've made our stand.
If we go running around trigger happy that won't win this for us.

 

[BoilerUP]

Chess, not checkers...

 

[Not a Clue]

That law existed already, they are modifying the words to include any public official, that will cover County Police and Sheriffs.

A really filthy shitbag of a move. They are coming at this from every angle. Lots of shithole lawyers somewhere trying to plug every possible loophole.

 

[Tazman]

The time is coming...be patient, vigilant, prepare, and pray to GOD that Trump and others can head this off and prevent what we all know is coming. Communism is not something any of us will stand for but the price will be high and not for the faint of heart. Use every mean at your disposal to avoid the oncoming conflict but make no mistake in that "the most committed will win".

Water, food, family, and friends will be the support you need.

 

[Tazman]

Andy pussy......I almost over looked the important stuff!!

 

[105gr]

This guy knows where the priorities lie

 

[magtech]

Not sure if VA knows it or not, but the rest of the country is waiting for VA to overthrow its state gov so they have something to build off of. I highly doubt people care if its through diplomacy or outright acts of free-will. Get it done.

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

I don't know about everyone but I value human life.
There's a time and place for war but that's when all options have been exhausted.
No one is trying to be cool here, we've made our stand.
If we go running around trigger happy that won't win this for us.

Indeed.

 

[Vamike9]

Like has been said Dems are getting flooded in their counties with people who can vote them out.
I believe that we should keep up the pressure to stop this.
Yes it's a never-ending process but we shall prevail!
When that doesn't work, well then we will have some hard decisions to make.

 

[357Max]

The solution is written into VA constitution.
84 out of 95 counties seems the majority (referenced below) has been met! The gerrymandering & Douchebergs money may have flipped the majorities in both houses, but not the majority of the community.


Constitution of Virginia

Article I. Bill of Rights
Section 3. Government instituted for common benefit
That government is, or ought to be, instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security of the people, nation, or community; of all the various modes and forms of government, that is best which is capable of producing the greatest degree of happiness and safety, and is most effectually secured against the danger of maladministration; and, whenever any government shall be found inadequate or contrary to these purposes, a majority of the community hath an indubitable, inalienable, and indefeasible right to reform, alter, or abolish it, in such manner as shall be judged most conducive to the public weal.

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

Yea, but getting them to consider any Constitution as high law is the fucking problem.

 

[357Max]

Update:

Newly proposed legislation seeks to terminate and bar from further employment for the next 22 months any law enforcement officer refusing to perform the duties of his employment.

Bill Tracking - 2020 session > Legislation

In response to this Bullshit I'm going to repeat myself.
There's got to be a few reps in the 84 counties with a set of Balls big enough to introduce the following legislation:

The Oath of office given to trusted servants in the state of VA shall henceforth be enforced.

Any servant found to have worked to subvert, circumvent, or otherwise violate the constitution's of either VA or the United States shall be subject to immediate removal from office, a mandatory 3 year min. prison sentence per offense, 10 thousand dollar fine per offense, and lifetime ineligibility to serve in a position of public trust. Guilt shall be determined by the higher courts. Should a bill ever pass that is later struck down due to violation of VA or US constitution it shall be an instant guilty conviction for the bills sponsor and co sponsors in both house and senate as well as the Governor should he sign it into law without attempting veto!

Pass the above and you wont have to re-fight the same shit every year. They are to fucking bold. What have they got to loose?
Not a Fucking thing! There are ZERO consequences for shitting on the oath they take. That needs to change pronto.
With 84 counties it should pass. If not get all those bastards on record voting against it.

 

[Jlknights61]

Those 84 counties do not have the majority in the house or senate hence our problems. There are a host of reasons for this chief among them federal court mandated gerrymandering. Further any amendment to the constitution of VA requires passage in the legislature. While I understand the point you are trying to make and proposing the legislation may make a statement, it simply will not pass and hence is not a feasible defense against what the dems are planning to do.

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

Anything which bothers them at all is worth trying in my opinion. Throw all the books at them, they're throwing all the infringements so be it.

 

[magtech]

So when are the people going to march on the capitol and remove these elected officals.... Are you waiting on them to remove themselves, because they wont. I dont get what waiting around does for your cause. It just buys them more time to find a bullshit way around some made up laws. The sooner you drag them out of office the sooner you can enact the constitution... The government wont enact this for you. The constitution was written to guide the people.. Laws were written to control the people... Maybe people like being controlled?

 

[SilentStalkr]

Hey, you know when y’all need some outside support let me know and I can round some boys up for assistance. ?

 

[Jlknights61]

Anything which bothers them at all is worth trying in my opinion. Throw all the books at throwing all the infringements so be it.

I do agree with this, our republican delegates and senators should be proposing counter legislation even if it doesn’t have a chance of passing.

 

[Vamike9]

Dems do need consequences for their actions.
The problem is as gun owners we rarely stand together like what is happening now in my home state.
If we lose here, It Will be coming to state near you before you think.

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

Yea, TX could be next if we fail here. A dark time for our whole country.

 

[magtech]

Yea, TX could be next if we fail here. A dark time for our whole country.

Tyranny has done this before. They create dark times... And force people to fight from the shadows.

 

[357Max]

Those 84 counties do not have the majority in the house or senate hence our problems. There are a host of reasons for this chief among them federal court mandated gerrymandering. Further any amendment to the constitution of VA requires passage in the legislature. While I understand the point you are trying to make and proposing the legislation may make a statement, it simply will not pass and hence is not a feasible defense against what the dems are planning to do.

I understand and agree, it would not pass at present with Dem majority. They do not, however have a super majority like they do here in MD.
My suggestion is more geared towards the long game. Put forth the legislation and make them vote against the constitution. Then vote the Fuckers out using that vote as a campaign add. Conservatives could make it's passage part of their platform. What Patriot wouldn't want to vote for that?
This goes beyond VA. All these Ass Hats can't wait to pass laws that would make criminals out of law abiding citizens, meanwhile they can commit treason with no consequence. THIS MUST CHANGE or they will not stop unless physically forced to!

These Fucking idiots don't realize what there fucking with, or maybe they do and don't give a shit because the Heads of the snake are well protected in their Ivory Towers.

Mark my words, if they keep it up, one of these 1%er types (think Tim McVeigh) is going to snap and people that don't deserve it are going to get hurt.
If Hillary had won, it would have already happened. VA is fucking with a much smaller sample size, but the per capita of crazy is surely higher now then it was in 95.

 

[magtech]

First County to Form Militia in Response to New Virginia Gun Laws

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This is a better Long-game... Get an 84 county militia to take back the state. This is what needs to be done, or Dems (whatever political party) will continue to use the seat of power to molest its citizens.

 

[Rthur]

R

 

[Jlknights61]

I understand and agree, it would not pass at present with Dem majority. They do not, however have a super majority like they do here in MD.
My suggestion is more geared towards the long game. Put forth the legislation and make them vote against the constitution. Then vote the Fuckers out using that vote as a campaign add. Conservatives could make it's passage part of their platform. What Patriot wouldn't want to vote for that?
This goes beyond VA. All these Ass Hats can't wait to pass laws that would make criminals out of law abiding citizens, meanwhile they can commit treason with no consequence. THIS MUST CHANGE or they will not stop unless physically forced to!

These Fucking idiots don't realize what there fucking with, or maybe they do and don't give a shit because the Heads of the snake are well protected in there Ivory Towers.

Mark my words, if they keep it up, one of these 1%er types (think Tim McVeigh) is going to snap and people that don't deserve it are going to get hurt.
If Hillary had one, it would have already happened. VA is fucking with a much smaller sample size, but the per capita of crazy is surely higher now then it was in 94.

The democratically controlled legislature will be able to gerrymander at will in 2021. That coupled with immigration, both legal and illegal, and the legislation they are planning on passing resulting in more conservatives ultimately leaving the state means that 2019 was the last election of importance. We stand now and head this off or lose VA all together. That is why the sanctuary movement, 1/20 lobby day etc. is so important.

People keep saying VA is a litmus test and that is true for both sides. If they succeed with trampling the 2A here now they will use this exact tactic in every other predominately conservative state. Make no mistake this is absolutely coming to a state near you. If they can’t do it nationally they will take one state down at a time.

 

[magtech]

I always thought VA was full of gun-toting rednecks. Were all these hillbillies with gun neutered or are they planning their own last stand?

 

[Jlknights61]

Honestly with what they are talking about doing. Trampling the second, terminating uncooperative LEOs, enforcing law with national guard we should really be tactically preparing sooner rather than later.

I absolutely agree that there is still time for peace and that we should make every available effort to resolve this peacefully. However, they seem all to ready to meet our peace with violence.

Long before the battle of Lexington and concord, peaceful law abiding citizens organized, drilled, and established pacts for the common defense. This is what I believe we’ll regulated meant. We are focused on the right “to keep and bear”, but should spend some significant time on the well regulated.

The lone citizen standing for his rights (unorganized) is of little concern. Organized/trained Americans prepared to defend the constitution however...

This is not my area of expertise, though I believe there are many among us on this board more than capable. Perhaps it is time to make preparations for the “well regulated” and prepare your fellow citizens with not just the material but the means.

 

[Cheyenne Bodie]

I always thought VA was full of gun-toting rednecks. Were all these hillbillies with gun neutered or are they planning their own last stand?

That's mostly correct, but they tend to also be former military/fed/gov and on average a fuckton smarter than your run of the mill hick.

 

[magtech]

Honestly with what they are talking about doing. Trampling the second, terminating uncooperative LEOs, enforcing law with national guard we should really be tactically preparing sooner rather than later.

I absolutely agree that there is still time for peace and that we should make every available effort to resolve this peacefully. However, they seem all to ready to meet our peace with violence.

Long before the battle of Lexington and concord, peaceful law abiding citizens organized, drilled, and established pacts for the common defense. This is what I believe we’ll regulated meant. We are focused on the right “to keep and bear”, but should spend some significant time on the well regulated.

The lone citizen standing for his rights (unorganized) is of little concern. Organized/trained Americans prepared to defend the constitution however...

This is not my area of expertise, though I believe there are many among us on this board more than capable. Perhaps it is time to make preparations for the “well regulated” and prepare your fellow citizens with not just the material but the means.

Are you all a bunch of pacifists? Peace is soo boring. PEACE is the tool used by people (DEMS currently) to control people. I'm losing hope in humanity to fix this.

 

[myronman3]

I still don't see anyone willing to water the tree of liberty. Charismatic words have never fixed these problems from either side, only the barrel of a gun will bring change. This is what we have forgotten. If you few good men back down, the rest of the country will follow.

This is not some smallish weed you can pluck from the ground, but a mighty tree with deep roots.

what good will come of what you advise? NONE. as it stands now, they are all over this and well on the way to shredding the tyrants. some fucking fool goes off half cocked, like you advise, and it’ll throw a big monkey wrench in the momentum.

if you are so big and bad, why dont you do as you suggest? i’d love to tell you to either do as you advise, or STFU. but i wont....because of what i said above. you really do need to engage your brain before opening your cake hole.

people’s balls are always so much bigger when it’s someone else’s life and livelyhood on the line versus their own.

 

[Not a Clue]

Are you all a bunch of pacifists? Peace is soo boring. PEACE is the tool used by people (DEMS currently) to control people. I'm losing hope in humanity to fix this.

Yeah, because some dickwad popping off rounds right now is really going to turn public opinion in favor of this? Only thing that does at this point in time is prove the case for getting the guns out of VA. Doing something stupid would only make those trying to take our rights away heroes.

We don’t need any lone wolf dumbasses at this point. The path chosen is the right one for this moment. Peaceful protest and serious statewide pressure on all districts. If they ignore all the citizens then, then all bets are off, but for now, last thing we need is shots fired.

 

[myronman3]

Yeah, because some dickwad popping off rounds right now is really going to turn public opinion in favor of this? Only thing that does at this point in time is prove the case for getting the guns out of VA. Doing something stupid would only make those trying to take our rights away heroes.

We don’t need any lone wolf dumbasses at this point. The path chosen is the right one for this moment. Peaceful protest and serious statewide pressure on all districts. If they ignore all the citizens then, then all bets are off, but for now, last thing we need is shots fired.

amen

 

[Whiskey_Tango6.5]

 

[Vamike9]

Yeah, because some dickwad popping off rounds right now is really going to turn public opinion in favor of this? Only thing that does at this point in time is prove the case for getting the guns out of VA. Doing something stupid would only make those trying to take our rights away heroes.

We don’t need any lone wolf dumbasses at this point. The path chosen is the right one for this moment. Peaceful protest and serious statewide pressure on all districts. If they ignore all the citizens then, then all bets are off, but for now, last thing we need is shots fired.

Agreed

It's like this, we lose either way most times, but now we have momentum,
what we choose to do with it is our choice, but crushing the dems politically is a great win for us and embarrassment for them.

They cave all of the time, some are hardliners but most aren't willing to lose by creating a huge public outcry!

They are worried right now despite their poker faces...

 

[MadDuner]

My advice to the good people of Virginia would be to stock up on beans, rice, and toilet paper....

 

[105gr]

and baby wipes