VALDADA G2 Recon NEW VADADA CONTENT

[ken226]

So, you would admit that it wouldn't be a good value then if it's substantially similar to other optics that can be bought for less than half of it's retail price then?

Of course. To answer your question, as asked . If the OP had asked about its value; quality per price. Given its price and assuming substantially similar specs, it's probably a horrible value. It's not really a matter of "admitting" it, it seems pretty obvious. It just wasn't what was asked.

 

[Long Range 338]

OP, you don't really seem to care what others have to say about your cherished Valdada G2 so as I mentioned in the other thread - why don't you provide us with a review. It is painfully obvious either you already purchased or are dead set on purchasing. Rather than waste everybody's time just go ahead and tell us how amazing it is.... Let me summarize:

-40mm tube (ITS GOT GIRTH!!!)
-Schott glass (at least one lens anyways)
-Amazing turrets (Just ask Val)
-Amazing warranty (Just ask Val)
-Best gosh darn scope ever spec'd and produced (Just ask Val)

Pair that bad boy up with a Tactical Rifles, Inc. firearm and some Darn Good Ammo and you'll rule the roost. Don't forget your Dunkin Donuts coffee.

 

[ken226]

Yup, you really hit the nail on the head answering the OP's question lol

I'm just here for the IOR gangbang and wanted to point out how girthy it is

Ok. Pay attention.

OP:

"you've NEVER shot one if you've NEVER even stood behind one I don't really want to hear from you"

Me:

"I DON'T own anything from Valdada. I couldn't care less about their products."

The distinction is in the past tense vs present tense.

I don't "currently" own, but have in the past. Have shot them. The ones I've used had good glass, but design aspects and machine work that I didn't like. That's why I don't own any. I'm not fond of them.

What's "lol"?

 

[308pirate]

Let me summarize:

-40mm tube (ITS GOT GIRTH!!!)
-Schott glass (at least one lens anyways)
-Amazing turrets (Just ask Val and that t-rex guy)
-Amazing warranty (Just ask Val and that t-rex guy)
-Best gosh darn scope ever spec'd and produced (Just ask Val and that t-rex guy)

you left somebody important out

 

[TheBigCountry]

So, you read my last post and came away thinking that I was recommending that he purchase this scope?

I mention that IOR and LOW have nothing to do with each other, and you understood it as a recommendation that he buy this scope?

Would you be willing to explain the following quote? "IOR has a shoddy past, regardless of it being made by LOW"

I'm not quite following you on that one.

Valdada is a US based importer. He buys shit from overseas, and resells it in the US.

IOR is a Romanian optics manufacturer. LOW is a Japanese scope manufacturer.
Valdada, IOR and LOW are 3 seperate entities, each on a different continent.

LOW doesn't make scopes for IOR.

Valdada buys stuff from various companies, including IOR and LOW, amongst others and re-sells it in the US.

Gee, why would you suddenly pop into a thread, so fast to go at length to defend a scope, being made/sold under Val who has burned some serious bridges with Frank? Isn’t Val the one who tried to bring a scope to market using the SH logo? (Thus explaining a shoddy past).

Sounds a lot like you’re going far to defend this company. Do you have a stake in it or something? Times have shown Frank does NOT put up with people blatantly shilling/posturing about anything IOR/Valdada/whatever they want to call themselves.

 

[W54/XM-388]

So I was in Nebraska drinking recently and the bartender was Gay, (not there is anything wrong with that, just stating a fact) and we routinely closed the bar since most of the townies rolled up around 11PM. The last night we took a deep dive into his Gayness and asked him what he liked about Dick? Girth was his number one answer ...

So about this "Girth", How is it measured and what is considered normal as opposed to extra girthy?

 

[JeffLebowski]

There is a saying "you have forgotten the face of your father"I think it fits for you

Oh, knock it the fuck off. You have no idea how many veterans are here and not all of us wear it on our sleeves or wear a DD214 hat.

 

[adubeau]

you left somebody important out

Cyclops Joe?

 

[pkrl]

 

[Michael W]

I saw this review it was pretty in depth. But I'm not sure if the guy is a retailer that sells them.

 

[beetroot]

I saw this review it was pretty in depth. But I'm not sure if the guy is a retailer that sells them.

He's a pretty smooth operator who does some totally legit reviews.

 

[Michael W]

Don't walk away from Valdada, run

Which one did you buy?The G2? And what was the problem with it

 

[Michael W]

He's a pretty smooth operator who does some totally legit reviews.

Yeah the guy does seems like he knows what he's talking about it's a pretty in-depth review. I wasn't aware that these scopes we're not made by ior

 

[supercorndogs]

Yes buy the thing. Its a great deal. Happy now?

 

[Michael W]

Okay unlike most of you guys on here I actually shot with one last weekend. I own a Leupold Mark 5 and a mark 4 also I have a razor AMG. All pretty good scopes this scope was just as nice if not nicer than any of my Scopes that I own. When I took it off the gun it literally felt like it was made out of a piece of Billet aluminum. It comes with some of the nicest lense covers I've ever seen also comes with your choice of rings . I was shooting with a guy's custom CZ 455 in 22lr I was switching from 300, 400 and 500 yards shooting 12 in steel targets this scope tract perfectly. Did I mention we were shooting a 22 long rifle at 500 + yards with no external gizmos to get more range out of the scope.

 

[supercorndogs]

Asks about it, so he can tell us about it. Is IOR following the Arken marketing model? Should we expect a bunch of weak ass shilling from retards with big stories? Tell me Mr. Expert, how does billet feel different than forged?

So, you are saying your favorite part is the girth?

 

[308pirate]

When I took it off the gun it literally felt like it was made out of a piece of Billet aluminum.

You are so full of shit........you don't know what the fuck a "billet" is anyway. It's just some buzzword you heard on gun forums, probably from the retards at AR15.com who fap to their billet uppers.

You do realize that there more than a few professional machinists and engineers here who can tell immediately when you're making shit up like this...

Right?

Anyway in the trade we don't call anything billet. It's either a forging, or an extrusion, or plate, or round bar or square bar, etc.. only pudknockers call it billet.

 

[Michael W]

Asks about it, so he can tell us about it. Is IOR following the Arken marketing model? Should we expect a bunch of weak ass shilling from retards with big stories? Tell me Mr. Expert, how does billet feel different than forged?

So, you are saying your favorite part is the girth?

I meant to say like it was made from a solid piece of Billet. Thanks for correcting me. But let me ask you a question would you say that a 30 mm tube is better than a 34 mm tube?

 

[supercorndogs]

You don't know what you meant say. You don't know what you are talking about. This weak ass shilling will not work here. Go waste your time elsewhere.

 

[Michael W]

You don't know what you meant say. You don't know what you are talking about. This weak ass shilling will not work here. Go waste your time elsewhere.

Why don't you back your talk up with facts. What are you going to call me fat next time? You never answered my question.

 

[Michael W]

You are so full of shit........you don't know what the fuck a "billet" is anyway. It's just some buzzword you heard on gun forums, probably from the retards at AR15.com who fap to their billet uppers.

You do realize that there more than a few professional machinists and engineers here who can tell immediately when you're making shit up like this...

Right?

Anyway in the trade we don't call anything billet. It's either a forging, or an extrusion, or plate, or round bar or square bar, etc.. only pudknockers call it billet.

I'm just trying to figure out if you guys either have Billet or forgings stuffed up your asses. You're like a bunch of women on here, your skin is about as thick as a grapes. I asked a fair question and you know mostly I get straight up answers but then there's a couple of jackalopes like you and you pretty much fuck up a pretty good thing here. So if you don't have anything constructive to say shut the fuck up and stay out of my conversation and move on. I don't want to hear from you.

 

[308pirate]

I don't want to hear from you.

I don't give a fuck about what you want

 

[koshkin]

I meant to say like it was made from a solid piece of Billet. Thanks for correcting me. But let me ask you a question would you say that a 30 mm tube is better than a 34 mm tube?

Is the implication here that one tube diameter is better than the other? In what way?

ILya

 

[Michael W]

I don't give a fuck about what you want

Good

 

[supercorndogs]

Why don't you back your talk up with facts. What are you going to call me fat next time? You never answered my question.

Calling you fat would require speculation. Saying you're shilling is speculation based on clues. You can keep this dumpster fire going as long as want. It's not helping your boy. Tell us all again how a bigger tube is better?

 

[Michael W]

Is the implication here that one tube diameter is better than the other? In what way?

ILya

Well the current trends are saying a larger diameter tube allows for many positive attributes such as more light, more room for internal adjustment. I know if you look at scope manufacturers all their top-of-the-line scopes have a tube diameter of at least 34 mm.
That being said a 40 mm tube allows for more light, and more internal scope adjustment than the traditional 30 mm and the newer 34 mm tubes.

 

[supercorndogs]

Buzzzzz, wrong again.

 

[Michael W]

Calling you fat would require speculation. Saying you're shilling is speculation based on clues. You can keep this dumpster fire going as long as want. It's not helping your boy. Tell us all again how a bigger tube is better?

I think you're implying something about girth? What exactly do you have on your mind? The only reason I'm asking is seems like you finish every one of your statements with a girth question.

 

[Michael W]

Buzzzzz, wrong again.

So enlighten me what exactly do I have wrong about that statement?

 

[makaug]

So enlighten me what exactly do I have wrong about that statement?

A larger tube size doesn't have anything to do with allowing more light through.

For better or worse, with a few exceptions, you're not going to get honest feedback on this scope from this crowd. Not many are willing to give this scope a shot because:
a) There's some bad history with the owner of Valdada, a lot of people here don't trust him, and don't want to support him.
b) The IOR scopes Valdada imported had quality control issues. Even though the scope in question is coming from a different OEM, most people aren't going to look past the reputation Valdada built with those IOR scopes.
c) The same basic scope design from this OEM is available from several manufacturers for significantly cheaper, manufacturers that have much better reputations than Valdada (See ILya's list on page 1).

If you're really looking for feedback on this scope, you might have better luck elsewhere.

 

[LawnMM]

I think he should bring it to a match and we can place bets on whether it survives 15-20 stages over the weekend...

Obviously, he already bought it, so he's asking if it was a bad decision, after the fact, and doesn't like the answer = askhole.

 

[koshkin]

Well the current trends are saying a larger diameter tube allows for many positive attributes such as more light, more room for internal adjustment. I know if you look at scope manufacturers all their top-of-the-line scopes have a tube diameter of at least 34 mm.
That being said a 40 mm tube allows for more light, and more internal scope adjustment than the traditional 30 mm and the newer 34 mm tubes.

Adjustment range: yes, if the rest of the scope is designed for it (not a given for G2). Amount of light: no.

ILya

 

[Michael W]

Adjustment range: yes, if the rest of the scope is designed for it (not a given for G2). Amount of light: no.

ILya

I stand corrected. Thank you

 

[Michael W]

A larger tube size doesn't have anything to do with allowing more light through.

For better or worse, with a few exceptions, you're not going to get honest feedback on this scope from this crowd. Not many are willing to give this scope a shot because:
a) There's some bad history with the owner of Valdada, a lot of people here don't trust him, and don't want to support him.
b) The IOR scopes Valdada imported had quality control issues. Even though the scope in question is coming from a different OEM, most people aren't going to look past the reputation Valdada built with those IOR scopes.
c) The same basic scope design from this OEM is available from several manufacturers for significantly cheaper, manufacturers that have much better reputations than Valdada (See ILya's list on page 1).

If you're really looking for feedback on this scope, you might have better luck elsewhere.

I know that you're right. And it's unfortunate does some people hold a grudge. But this site holds a wealth of knowledge.. it's very funny how polarized people are against this thing on this site ,when you go anywhere else they can't say good enough things about them.

 

[308pirate]

when you go anywhere else they can't say good enough things about them.

longrangehunting.com?
arfcom?
snipercountry?

 

[Michael W]

a) There's some bad history with the owner of Valdada, a lot of people here don't trust him, and don't want to support him.

If an owner imports shit for years, why would you expect his other products to be any better?

Hey thank you for those sites I didn't even know they existed. I did go to each one of them though and the only thing I could find about Valada was on longrangehunting.com. and I couldn't find anything bad they said .Maybe that's because I looked up Valadada . And not ior.
Look I know I'm beating a dead horse but when I was looking for a new scope I emailed quite a few companies. And Valdada responded immediately(on Sunday) and it wasn't a customer representative it was the president and owner of the company Val. And then he called me. I'm in the military and I know that has no bearing here but he asked me what I did for a living and I told him we spent maybe 5 or 10 minutes talking about my military experience before we even started talking about a scope. I know that really doesn't mean a lot and it doesn't mean anything about his quality of his product but it was important to me.

 

[ofelas]

You have a unique life experience right there.

And then he called me. I'm in the military and I know that has no bearing here but he asked me what I did for a living and I told him we spent maybe 5 or 10 minutes talking about my military experience before we even started talking about a scope.

 

[JakeM]

Holy shit. Buy the fucker and then test it and tell us how good the glass is and all about the 150 mins of Elevation even though you aren’t shooting past 1,700 yards. News flash, he also personally knows the Rex guy on YouTube to hawk his shit for him because he has such a bad rep. It isn’t even about the specific scope any more, it’s about not supporting shitty business.

 

[koshkin]

Hey thank you for those sites I didn't even know they existed. I did go to each one of them though and the only thing I could find about Valada was on longrangehunting.com. and I couldn't find anything bad they said .Maybe that's because I looked up Valadada . And not ior.
Look I know I'm beating a dead horse but when I was looking for a new scope I emailed quite a few companies. And Valdada responded immediately(on Sunday) and it wasn't a customer representative it was the president and owner of the company Val. And then he called me. I'm in the military and I know that has no bearing here but he asked me what I did for a living and I told him we spent maybe 5 or 10 minutes talking about my military experience before we even started talking about a scope. I know that really doesn't mean a lot and it doesn't mean anything about his quality of his product but it was important to me.

If Val is taking customer service seriously, finally, then good for him.

Do keep in mind that the whole company is usually two employees including Val.

ILya

 

[Michael W]

If Val is taking customer service seriously, finally, then good for him.

Do keep in mind that the whole company is usually two employees including Val.

ILya

Meow

 

[brianf]

Meow

No horse in the race....

But Koshkin designs and reviews optics for a living.

He forgot more than everyone on this thread thinks they know.

Just sayin.


Edit spelling ...again

 

[Michael W]

If Val is taking customer service seriously, finally, then good for him.

Do keep in mind that the whole company is usually two employees including Val.

ILya

I kind of figured it was a pretty small operation. I also know that once you get bitten by something it's hard to have an open mind. It's a sign of a true professional

 

[Michael W]

If Val is taking customer service seriously, finally, then good for him.

Do keep in mind that the whole company is usually two employees including Val.

ILya

you are kind you are kind of famous. I saw that you did a review back in 2010. Maybe it would be worth an effort to re-examine them.

 

[Rob01]

Just buy one Michael W. You have more of a hard on for them than a 15 year old watching Porn Hub so spend the money on a product that you obviously are infatuated with and use it. Just posting more and more monotonous BS here isn't going to get you anywhere. Put your money where your mouth is.

 

[308Gunner]

I have a 2-10 that is on an Ar15 for what I use it for and what I paid for it it is okay. I will not hold a candle to the newer scopes that cost the same money as far as tracking. For the money that you can get that scope there are proven scopes that will track 100% and the glass is just as good if not better. Vortex, Nightforce, Minox and S&B. It’s your money and you can spend it however you want but with the knowledge on this site and the warnings about IOR if you do get one and it does what the majority of them do you have wasted that money that you will not get anywhere near what you paid for it if it gets fixed

 

[Michael W]

Just buy one Michael W. You have more of a hard on for them than a 15 year old watching Porn Hub so spend the money on a product that you obviously are infatuated with and use it. Just posting more and more monotonous BS here isn't going to get you anywhere. Put your money where your mouth is.

Well spoken. Thank you very much from this point on when I think Class Act I'll think of you. I'm glad you're a staff member on you do this site proud thank you.

 

[hk dave]

I’m amazed the shill didn’t meet the kitty yet.

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

How many times in 1 thread can you mention your military experience???
It has absolutely no bearing in regards to the Valdada/IOR stain you are trying to remove here, nothing!!
Ughhh in case you haven't noticed because you track like an IOR, lol....there is a shit load of military guys here.
Clearly you are not one of the quiet professionals.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[Michael W]

Hi,

How many times in 1 thread can you mention your military experience???
It has absolutely no bearing in regards to the Valdada/IOR stain you are trying to remove here, nothing!!
Ughhh in case you haven't noticed because you track like an IOR, lol....there is a shit load of military guys here.
Clearly you are not one of the quiet professionals.

Sincerely,
Theis

You are correct sir.

 

[Michael W]

Well gentlemen there is absolutely nothing left to say. Good day