Hello guys, I have been stashing side money away and I'm almost to where I need to be to order the Vudoo that I think I want. My question is, What trigger do most of you guys like? I don't go to matches so I've never had the opportunity to get my hands on any of the nice triggers. I have some Timney triggers on a couple of hunting rifles now but I know nothing about the TT models or those Bix and Andy triggers. I want the pull to be no more than 1lb. This gun is just going to be a backyard, compete against my buddies type gun. I don't see myself going to any matches but I'm not saying its out of the question.
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Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action
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Trigger tech Diamond single or two stage it the route I would recommend. I’ve had nothing but good experience with mine in my vudoo and my impact and probably will never switch from them unless I buy an AI or Sako. The break is super crisp, the pull weight is super easy to adjust and just generally nice triggers. Only downside is obviously the cost but for the quality, I can justify it
Triggers are very personal. For me Bix'n Andy Tac Pro 2-stage with a flat trigger shoe. Very easy to adjust weight and super crisp. Go to Bullet Central to see range of first and second stage pull weight.
From what other posters say, seems TT and B&A are worthy competitors. Only way to know which you prefer for certain, unfortunately, is to try both. Most probably cannot go wrong with either.
From what other posters say, seems TT and B&A are worthy competitors. Only way to know which you prefer for certain, unfortunately, is to try both. Most probably cannot go wrong with either.
Good evening Sagittarius. I was not familiar with Joe Chacon 10-22 so I did some searching. MOST IMPRESSIVE! Very nice rifles and sweet scores!!
I purchased a Kidd Super Grade earlier this year. I started with an 18" Barrel with a radial brake. Changed for a 20" barrel, not threaded, and put a tuner on it. So far it as done very well. I am going to try some Lapua ammo in it. Mine does not have a 'benchrest' type stock like the pics of the Chacon rifles I saw. That may make a big difference.
The Chacon guns are beautiful. Seems like a wonderful piece. What Action, Trigger and Barrel are in yours?
4Certain.
Hello,4Certain. My rifle does not have Joe's Benchrest stock; instead, it has one of Joe Updike's 10/22 chassis.
I had planned to shoot KYL matches with the rifle so a Benchrest stock was out of the question.
But when I got Joe's barreled action and put it in the chassis, the weight came to 15.4lbs so it was really too heavy for KYL matches, lol.
So, it looks like I might as well have ordered Joe's Benchrest stock after all as that's what it's best suited for.
It has a Tactical Innovations stainless steel receiver, a Power Custom bolt, KIDD 2 stage trigger, Joe's charging handle, a 24" Douglas barrel with Joe's own tuner.
Plus a Trijicon 5-50x56 scope in NightForce rings.
It's a great shooting rifle when I'm on and holding steady.
When I get around to getting a Vudoo or RimX action, it will automatically be sent to Joe to have a Shilen 24" barrel installed with another of Joe's tuners.
I had planned to shoot KYL matches with the rifle so a Benchrest stock was out of the question.
But when I got Joe's barreled action and put it in the chassis, the weight came to 15.4lbs so it was really too heavy for KYL matches, lol.
So, it looks like I might as well have ordered Joe's Benchrest stock after all as that's what it's best suited for.
It has a Tactical Innovations stainless steel receiver, a Power Custom bolt, KIDD 2 stage trigger, Joe's charging handle, a 24" Douglas barrel with Joe's own tuner.
Plus a Trijicon 5-50x56 scope in NightForce rings.
It's a great shooting rifle when I'm on and holding steady.
When I get around to getting a Vudoo or RimX action, it will automatically be sent to Joe to have a Shilen 24" barrel installed with another of Joe's tuners.
Sounds like a very sweet set up, Sagittarius! Very nice indeed!
I have been pleased with the Kidd gun. It is probably not as nice as yours. I do like Kidd's Supergrade Barrel set up. Rather than the 3/4" tendon on the barrel, the connecting portion is 1-7/8" long. It has an alignment notch so the barrel goes in and stays the same way all the time. It has two barrel screws, one at a 45 degree angle or so, that pushes the barrel up and back into the receiver. The other is at 90 degrees to the barrel. Great fit and finish and precise tolerances. I have been impressed with that aspect. I think your longer barrel will probably smooth out velocity differences better than my shorter 20". The only thing bad about the Kidd set up is it is unique to him. But I suppose a good gunsmith could look at the existing barrel and make a 'copy' of the tenon attachment portion.
Kidd's chassis is very nice. But he uses an AR style 'buffer tube' (obviously with no spring inside) and an AR style adjustable stock. Nice for plinking etc. But not stiff enough for Benchrest. I have put an A2 style stock on there with a bag rider on the bottom. It is more stiff, but certainly not as massively stable as a good Benchrest Stock.
I love the Kidd triggers. Very precise.
I have a question for you. A friend of mine worries about the 10-22 magazine and the bullets getting nicked or bumped as they go up the feed ramp and into the chamber. Do you think this is a issue? They are getting quite good groups for this to be happening. Or is there some special set up or mod being used?? Thanks. 4Certain
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I have a question for you. A friend of mine worries about the 10-22 magazine and the bullets getting nicked or bumped as they go up the feed ramp and into the chamber. Do you think this is a issue? They are getting quite good groups for this to be happening. Or is there some special set up or mod being used?? Thanks. 4Certain
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4Certain, I have had problems with a few brands with bullets getting nicked and bumped but it was mostly because of Joe's tight custom chamber.
Joe exchanges the springs on the 10/22 magazine he sends with the rifle and it runs great but the other magazines have had trouble at times.
When I use various SK and Lapua ammo (which Joe recommends), there are almost no problems with any magazines.
Suggest to your friends to use SK and Lapua, unless they have already.
Apologies to everyone for getting off-topic on a Vudoo thread but, if I don't order their magazine-fed action, I do plan on getting one of their single-shot actions and sending it to a custom stock maker to put in one of his beautiful thumbhole stocks with an adjustable cheekpiece.
I have a question for you. A friend of mine worries about the 10-22 magazine and the bullets getting nicked or bumped as they go up the feed ramp and into the chamber. Do you think this is a issue? They are getting quite good groups for this to be happening. Or is there some special set up or mod being used?? Thanks. 4Certain
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4Certain, I have had problems with a few brands with bullets getting nicked and bumped but it was mostly because of Joe's tight custom chamber.
Joe exchanges the springs on the 10/22 magazine he sends with the rifle and it runs great but the other magazines have had trouble at times.
When I use various SK and Lapua ammo (which Joe recommends), there are almost no problems with any magazines.
Suggest to your friends to use SK and Lapua, unless they have already.
Apologies to everyone for getting off-topic on a Vudoo thread but, if I don't order their magazine-fed action, I do plan on getting one of their single-shot actions and sending it to a custom stock maker to put in one of his beautiful thumbhole stocks with an adjustable cheekpiece.
Vudoo will do layaway. Order now, it will be at least 8-10 weeks. Pay in full before delivery. Check the website for details.
4Certain, I have had problems with a few brands with bullets getting nicked and bumped but it was mostly because of Joe's tight custom chamber.
Joe exchanges the springs on the 10/22 magazine he sends with the rifle and it runs great but the other magazines have had trouble at times.
When I use various SK and Lapua ammo (which Joe recommends), there are almost no problems with any magazines.
Suggest to your friends to use SK and Lapua, unless they have already.
Apologies to everyone for getting off-topic on a Vudoo thread but, if I don't order their magazine-fed action, I do plan on getting one of their single-shot actions and sending it to a custom stock maker to put in one of his beautiful thumbhole stocks with an adjustable cheekpiece.
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Sagittarius, I have enjoyed my Vudoo V22 Repeater quite a bit. I purchased it to shoot in our 'Tactical' PRS type matches. But I have also enjoyed seeing what I can do with it in our Benchrest and Mini-Palma shoots. I had been shooting Eley, but have started trying the Lapua ammo. The Midas+ seems to work well so far. I need to try it at 200 yards+. Hopefully soon. Pics reattached from earlier. Did pretty well in the benchrest this week. If the Hurricane(s) does not run us off I will try again this Thursday.
I need to try the Lapua in my 10-22. I have used that in our benchrest as well. Do you know if Joe sells the springs for the mags??
I have one of the Vudoo Single Shot guns on order. I ordered the complete rifle. I think it will show up mid to late September. We shall see... It seems determining the 'Birth Date' is not an exact science... 4Certain
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4Certain, I do not know if Joe sells the springs or not.
That was some excellent shooting with your Vudoo.
Look forward to seeing your single shot when you get it.
What type of stock are you getting with your single shot?
That was some excellent shooting with your Vudoo.
Look forward to seeing your single shot when you get it.
What type of stock are you getting with your single shot?
Sagittarius, I have ordered the McMillan Kestros Stock that Vudoo offers. I am certainly no Benchrest shooter. But it looks good to me...
I asked Mike which barrel he recommended. Between the Vudoo barrel and Shillen. He said that the Shillen was a great barrel but was more ammo picky. He felt the Vudoo barrel would like more ammo... That is the one I went with. Some may say that was a mistake. We shall see... I had one Savage FTR 223. It was Very ammo picky. What it liked it liked a lot. What it did not like, it really did not like it... I have another Savage M/10 223 in a McMillan stock that likes whatever you feed it. Little bitty groups. When I was selling equipment in order to purchase my Vudoo, the FTR was sold. Still have the other one...
I too look forward to seeing what I can do with the Vudoo Single Shot. My best guess is Mike Bush and the Vudoo crew have done a marvelous job on this rifle. It will be fun to put it through its paces. It will not be a Tricked out Gunsmith Special Benchrest Cannon, but it would not surprise me if they turn out to be good shooters... 4Certain
Not off-topic at all. I know Joe and he’s a good Dude and I don’t mind promoting what he does.
MB
4Certain, the Kestros stock looks good to me too.
One of the reasons I mentioned getting a Shilen is because Joe likes them and the Douglas barrel with his tuner.
Since my present barrel is a Douglas, I thought I would try a Shilen next as I consider Joe's tuner a must-have and would prefer him tuning it to my barrel.
Personally, I'm very fond of Benchmark barrels but there are many that shoot well.
I'm sure, the Vudoo barrel won't be a mistake.
One of the reasons I mentioned getting a Shilen is because Joe likes them and the Douglas barrel with his tuner.
Since my present barrel is a Douglas, I thought I would try a Shilen next as I consider Joe's tuner a must-have and would prefer him tuning it to my barrel.
Personally, I'm very fond of Benchmark barrels but there are many that shoot well.
I'm sure, the Vudoo barrel won't be a mistake.
Sagittarius, from what I hear, everybody and his brother like Shilen barrels. He has an amazing reputation. 4Certain
Very interesting comment about Shilen barrels. Has it been determined why Shilen barrels are so ammunition sensitive?
Quantitatively, what is the 0.1 MOA difference at 50 yd between ammunition a Shilen barrel "likes" and "does not" like?
Quantitatively, what is the 0.1 MOA difference at 50 yd between ammunition a Shilen barrel "likes" and "does not" like?
We have used most of the top barrels. The ratchet is the most predictable barrel to barrel and most forgiving ammo wise is what we have seen. There may be a a different rifling pattern that will have a slight advantage in push by wind but its minimal. We get off the self barrels so for consistency and availability its a ratchet. Why do you think the ratchet is more ammo sensitive than others?
Todd
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If your post is a reply to mine, from the comment in post #6531 "I asked Mike which barrel he recommended. Between the Vudoo barrel and Shillen. He said that the Shillen was a great barrel but was more ammo picky. He felt the Vudoo barrel would like more ammo.."
I don't know nothin.
The older I get the less recollection I have of anything I have presumably said!
I have a Shillen on my V22 and another shooter at our range has the Vudoo barrel. I can see no dipfference on target performance. Vudoo makes a great barrel. But I'm getting the shilen ratch barrel on my VSS just because.................
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Yep, Drew just sent a follow-up email and we figured out where the disconnect came from. He’s switching back to Shilen also....I just want to make sure everyone gets our absolute best....every time.
MB
Thank you, Mike. I greatly appreciate your Professionalism and Commitment to Excellence and your Customers! You all are great. Thank you! 4Certain!
I think after this hurricane mess I’m going to have to send her off to get lot tested. And buy a few bricks...tired of “making do” with what I can get local when I know of can do much better.
**and maybe Vudoo will have the new AI chassis out and I can get a 2nd rig *looking at you MB*
I’ll prob get to atleast shoot some snakes as the water rises..
**and maybe Vudoo will have the new AI chassis out and I can get a 2nd rig *looking at you MB*
I’ll prob get to atleast shoot some snakes as the water rises..
You should give SK Long Range a shot, I've got a couple bricks that shoot lights out. Better than my current bricks of Center X.
Creedmoor Sports is showing it in stock with a good assortment of other brands.
Brought home 3rd place Overall at the NRL22 National championship this weekend in Tennessee. My setup is A Vudoo V22 with a 20” Ace Barrel Kukri Contour. Lapua CenterX ammo lot tested at the test center, Trigger Tech Diamond Trigger. MPA comp chassis with internal weights and Gray Ops external weights, TLC Grip. I’m running Vudoo aluminum mags and a US Optics TS20x with JVCR Mil Reticle on a 40moa rail in a spuhr 4001 Mount.
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Just a little disappointed in VGW today. I have wanted a Vudoo V-22 rifle for awhile now. So I've read every thing I could find. Watched every Video I could find. Read every review I could find and read 6500+ posts on this thread. Then on June 10th I pulled the trigger and ordered my Dream Vudoo rifle. I was told it was going to be 10 or 11 weeks so I said OK. I called today to for an update as yesterday was 11 weeks. They checked and I was told it was at leas three more weeks. I asked what was the hold up and got a one word answer. Covid. I have no idea what they are waiting on.I still want the rifle though disappointed as I was set on waiting 11 weeks. Now I will hunker down dream for a least 3 more weeks.
I have never shot off an adjustable front rest. Do those of you who shoot your Vudoo off a front bipod or a front rest to get groups, get a better group one way or the other? Is there a significant difference between using a front adjustable rest and using a bipod?
Secondly if you are getting your best groups using a front rest, what are you using for a rear rest, a v shaped rear bag or a traditional squeeze bag?
Thanks. I'm still a relative noob to this.
Secondly if you are getting your best groups using a front rest, what are you using for a rear rest, a v shaped rear bag or a traditional squeeze bag?
Thanks. I'm still a relative noob to this.
What sport are you aiming to do? Benchrest? PRS? Shoot the way you would shoot in one of those sports.
I shoot prone with a bipod and rear bag for all of my groups. But that's also the discipline I'm shooting which is more PRS oriented.
VGW at the end of the day are just people like you and me. It's a small shop. People get sick. I went to order a Proof barrel back in April, and they said the earliest they'd have it to me was September/October due to the number of people that quit / left the factory due to Covid.
I am happy that VGW does the right thing and doesn't rush quality. I had a place try to keep churning out stuff at the rate pre-covid, and ended up getting some bad quality stuff, had to do a bunch of warranty returns to get it right. I know it's hard to wait on something that you saved up and spent a lot of effort on, but it'll be here soon enough and you'll get to enjoy it for your lifetime.
Bruh. You do know there’s a whole ass pandemic going on right? It’s common to accept a lead time as best case scenario but always know that it’s subject to change due to issues such as: covid, lack of parts and material from suppliers (due to covid, and massive increases in demand), lack of man power (due to covid), etc.
You’re literally buying the best and most popular high end 22 on the market. Cut the guys at Vudoo a break. They’re working their asses off I’m sure to get everyone taken care of as fast and safely as possible while still building an extremely accurate product.
I understand Covid. But why the one word answer after 11 weeks. Why not we are having trouble getting your barrel made or that Grayboe is behind on shipping? If they knew it was going to be 3 or so more weeks delay then why no a quick email note to notify me?
There's probably dozens of you, and only 1 person running the front desk at Vudoo. If they wanted to take more people answering phone calls and questions, then they wouldn't have people on the line putting the rifles together and ensuring quality.
Just curious, what were the specs for your build? I ordered a barreled action about 4 weeks ago and was given a rough estimate of 8-10 weeks. I fully expect it to take 10 weeks minimum but I still dream of hearing from them after 6 weeks.
Having been on both sides of the fence here, I know what it’s like to only think about my build and why it’s not done yet. Then I think back to when I had customers that were growing increasingly agitated while I worked my butt off building guns and theirs just wasn’t to the top of the list yet.
I’m sure the day it shows up you will never think back to the wait, you’ll be too busy planning your next build.
Having been on both sides of the fence here, I know what it’s like to only think about my build and why it’s not done yet. Then I think back to when I had customers that were growing increasingly agitated while I worked my butt off building guns and theirs just wasn’t to the top of the list yet.
I’m sure the day it shows up you will never think back to the wait, you’ll be too busy planning your next build.
A few SH vendors have Vudoo's in stock as well. If you want the standard 18-20" Ace Barrel w/ 30moa rail which is the common popular barreled action.
You can find a chassis/stock anywhere these days on the PX.
You can find a chassis/stock anywhere these days on the PX.
Probably because they’re busy building rifles and fielding a million “where’s my gun” emails and phone calls.
While reading those 6500 posts did you reach a conclusion about the customer service that Vudoo never fails to deliver?
Just asking in general which did the Vudoo users on here use and prefer and did their choice make their groups smaller. Mainly I am shooting for fun now. Thanks for the response.
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