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A flat breach would look like this, with no area of relief at all around the sides:
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Vudoo beefed up it's cone / hybrid breach on newer guns to have more support around the chamber but still have some relief around the edges to have a place for fouling to be able to go. The thought is that it makes it less likely for someone to damage the chamber while still having plenty of room for fouling to go. Even their original was not really a cone breach in the way some Anny 2013 owners have cone breaches that allow them to attach the barrel in any orientation as that design makes it super easy to damage the chamber as any impact on the breach face then typically deforms the back of the chamber. I expect you can probably order a Vudoo with any of the variations. I ordered it flat. I belive the standard is now the thicker hybrid breach your #3213 is. I really don't think any of the choices is a whole lot better than any others.
Ran a test today to begin verifying accuracy with and without a suppressor on my setup. I have a 16.5" Bartlein, barreled by Vudoo and was running an AAC Element II.
100 yard groups with the suppressor ran +/- one inch. I ran 70 rounds of SK Rifle Match through the barrel then tested the last 3 groups. The last 3 averaged .75" in 2-3 mph wind coming from my 8 o'clock.
Need to do some more testing, but wanted to see if others are seeing better accuracy without a suppressor.
Sagittarius , he still has the 1200 on his site. That is the front rest in my pics. It is a good rest. My guess is the 2400 is a step better. I am going to see if the 2400 top would fit on my 1200. Edit: Sagittarius, I did talk to Wally this morning. The 2400 Top can fit onto the 1200 base. I have ordered one. Will see how it works. Looks pretty good to me.
It is a good thing you are praying as we all desperately need to be... I fear for our Republic.
Let me know what you end up doing. Interested in how it works for you. What Rifle will you be shooting on it?
Blessings. 4Certain
This is the general consensus. You may get better, but most seem to grow. How much is dependent on rifle and suppressor and ammo.
So I posted my finding at 100yds with my 22TD on my vudoo with two 6x5’s. I averaged 0.7” with the can and 0.6” with out. Groups were consistently smaller with out the can however.Thanks and good to know! The most noticeable improvement was the lack of fliers in those three groups. I usually see at least one per group with my suppressor attached.
I've had this rifle since 2018 and am still figuring things out. Good times.
I finally got out again with my Vudoo yesterday. The range has a max of 50 yards but if anyone else is there shooting closer everyone is stuck at 25 yards. When I arrived I was the only one there. By the time I got unpacked and set up a handgun shooter showed up. He was willing to wait so I was able to shoot these six groups from 50 before moving to the 25 for the rest of the day. I could use a little more trigger time.
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I had a little trouble with one mag in an mpa, I was lucky to talk to M Bush at Somerset and he fixed it there between matches. No accuracy complaints from me.There is no problem with the Manners Mini Chassis. They work fine. Have had my Vudoo in 4 different stocks with the mini chassis and it runs. It’s the other chassis like MPA which were giving some issues. So if you are getting it in a Manners then I wouldn’t worry at all.
How did the 419 rail mount up on the foundation? I want to add more weight and this is one of the few options I have left.When I have all the brass inserts, it will balance barely in front of magwell on flat surface. But when it toss in on the bag, because of where it has to sit it’s still a little rear heavy. The mtu will probably fix that. I also ordered the weight tunable arca rail from 419.
But, I think the revelation will be a good fit for the kukri without having to add so much weight.
How did the 419 rail mount up on the foundation? I want to add more weight and this is one of the few options I have left.
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Just got this new to me v-22 barreled action.
Vudoo V-22 20" Kukri
Krg Whiskey 3
MDT Ckyepod
Athlon etr ares 4.5-30x56
installed into chassis at 55 in/lbs
So when I received the action this week and installed it in the chassis i noticed if the bolt is closed, decocked or cocked, for a long period of time the very first bolt lift is really hard to lift. Once it has been lifted it cycles smooth like butter. This also happens mag in or mag out. This also happened before it was put into the chassis. Does anyone have any ideas what it might be?
The next issue i noticed was today after taking it out onto the range maybe 2 out of 10 shots of SK Long Range Match would be really hard to feed and push the bolt down. It runs super smooth otherwise. I've only shot SK LRM through it so far.
Has approximately 300ish rounds out of it
Thank you Jbell. I am not sure how to 'Check Scope Tracking at short range. Once zero is set, I do not touch the knobs. I use the reticle and not the knobs..Have you checked for scope tracking at short range? It could be in the scope erector tracking of to the side. Also could be the scope mounted slightly canted or even holding the rifle (thus the scope) canted.
I would systematically eliminate that stuff first.
Question re: Scope Adjustment or Attachment:
Good afternoon Sniperhide friends. I have a Vudoo Gen 1 in an MPA BA Chassis with a Burris XTR III 5.5-30 x 56 scope. My zero is at 50 yards. I can shoot and it stays on zero pretty well. But when I shoot at a distance the impact zone tends to move to the Right. Note attached my target today at 150 yards. (Shooting Lapua Midas +) (Holes at bottom of target, not from this session). It could be 'wind'. but I have seen it occur, like today, when there was little to no wind. Go back to 50 yards, right on. Go to 100 and it is to the right. As I try to figure that out, I only come up with two options.
1. The Scope Mounting has the scope not parallel/coterminous with the barrel. They 'point' in different directions. Or,
2. The scope is canted and not square with the barrel. So when I go up to 6.2 MOA to shoot 100 yards or 15.0 MOA to shoot 150 yards it is off because of cant.
What am I missing? What else could it be? I feel like I have looked hard at the upper two issues... Maybe not hard enough...
What would you suggest as a way to Trouble Shoot this? And make sure zero is zero on the vertical axis of the scope regardless of distance...
Thank you in advance for your help.
4Certain
I have not tried that. Will give it a go... Thank you.Where is your POI at 50 yards once you go out to 150 yards and correct windage for the right hand 'drift'?
If you’re not dialing......It’s either cant induced drift or spin drift.
Thanks Dthomas3523. I am not dialing. I use the MOA on the vertical post of the reticle to account for the drop at distance.
As I look down my Vudoo Barrel it appears the rifling twist is clockwise. So it would make sense that the angular momentum would tend to make the bullet process toward the right. Is this what you mean? How would you quantify that? So much movement to right a given distance. Not sure I have noticed this to this degree before...
Thanks. 4Certain
Spindrift could be part of it. Most of the times I've seen this happen is that people's scopes were canted oh so very slightly. If you were aiming center in the above picture, spindrift would not be that much at 150y.
Spindrift could be part of it. Most of the times I've seen this happen is that people's scopes were canted oh so very slightly. If you were aiming center in the above picture, spindrift would not be that much at 150y.
Slight can’t doesn’t give 2” of movement @ 150.
Thanks Dthomas3523. That makes sense to me and I agree with you. I was aiming at the Center of the Red Dot on the target. My Gun was level. I was shooting off rests fore and aft. (Pics below on string on upgrading my Rest from Model 1200 to Model 2400.) I normally am pretty sensitive to my reticle being square with the world. I do realize that my approach of using the reticle requires a Vertical Center Reticle. The Center of the Group is just under 2" from the center of the Red Circle Bull's Eye. I appreciate your thoughts. 4Certain
There are pics of my rig on the string below: https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...etshooting-com-m-1200-rest-to-m-2400.7025330/
The MPA marble ball level thing I find pretty worthless... both times I've had people shoot off to the right was based on the MPA level. Not that it's any scientific evidence, but just some conjecture.
Slight can’t doesn’t give 2” of movement @ 150.
Have you done a scope tracking test to make sure its not skewing to the right as you increase elevation?Question re: Scope Adjustment or Attachment:
Good afternoon Sniperhide friends. I have a Vudoo Gen 1 in an MPA BA Chassis with a Burris XTR III 5.5-30 x 56 scope. My zero is at 50 yards. I can shoot and it stays on zero pretty well. But when I shoot at a distance the impact zone tends to move to the Right. Note attached my target today at 150 yards. (Shooting Lapua Midas +) (Holes at bottom of target, not from this session). It could be 'wind'. but I have seen it occur, like today, when there was little to no wind. Go back to 50 yards, right on. Go to 100 and it is to the right. As I try to figure that out, I only come up with two options.
1. The Scope Mounting has the scope not parallel/coterminous with the barrel. They 'point' in different directions. Or,
2. The scope is canted and not square with the barrel. So when I go up to 6.2 MOA to shoot 100 yards or 15.0 MOA to shoot 150 yards it is off because of cant.
What am I missing? What else could it be? I feel like I have looked hard at the upper two issues... Maybe not hard enough...
What would you suggest as a way to Trouble Shoot this? And make sure zero is zero on the vertical axis of the scope regardless of distance...
Thank you in advance for your help.
4Certain
Cant the rifle the other way and see if it corrects.![]()
Have you done a scope tracking test to make sure its not skewing to the right as you increase elevation?
Well worth it for peace of mind. I followed @lowlight 's video instruction on how to do this. Worked well and I now know what my scopes do up to 10 mil in elevation.
P.S. - oops, I see I'm late to the party and also that you hold over and do not dial up...so, never mind! haha
haha...yeah, like I saidThanks Baron23. I do not twist my knobs. Just set the zero and leave them alone. All my drop compensation is from the 1st Focal Plane Reticle.
I do not think 'tracking' applies if you do that... If it does I am certainly curious as to how. Thank you for your thoughts. 4Certain
The MPA marble ball level thing I find pretty worthless... both times I've had people shoot off to the right was based on the MPA level. Not that it's any scientific evidence, but just some conjecture.
Good evening Littlepod. What Bubble Level System do you like to use or Recommend? One on the scope? Or are there better eye catching options?
Thank you. 4Certain
Question re: Scope Adjustment or Attachment:
Good afternoon Sniperhide friends. I have a Vudoo Gen 1 in an MPA BA Chassis with a Burris XTR III 5.5-30 x 56 scope. My zero is at 50 yards. I can shoot and it stays on zero pretty well. But when I shoot at a distance the impact zone tends to move to the Right. Note attached my target today at 150 yards. (Shooting Lapua Midas +) (Holes at bottom of target, not from this session). It could be 'wind'. but I have seen it occur, like today, when there was little to no wind. Go back to 50 yards, right on. Go to 100 and it is to the right. As I try to figure that out, I only come up with two options.
1. The Scope Mounting has the scope not parallel/coterminous with the barrel. They 'point' in different directions. Or,
2. The scope is canted and not square with the barrel. So when I go up to 6.2 MOA to shoot 100 yards or 15.0 MOA to shoot 150 yards it is off because of cant.
What am I missing? What else could it be? I feel like I have looked hard at the upper two issues... Maybe not hard enough...
What would you suggest as a way to Trouble Shoot this? And make sure zero is zero on the vertical axis of the scope regardless of distance...
Thank you in advance for your help.
4Certain
Question re: Scope Adjustment or Attachment:
Good afternoon Sniperhide friends. I have a Vudoo Gen 1 in an MPA BA Chassis with a Burris XTR III 5.5-30 x 56 scope. My zero is at 50 yards. I can shoot and it stays on zero pretty well. But when I shoot at a distance the impact zone tends to move to the Right. Note attached my target today at 150 yards. (Shooting Lapua Midas +) (Holes at bottom of target, not from this session). It could be 'wind'. but I have seen it occur, like today, when there was little to no wind. Go back to 50 yards, right on. Go to 100 and it is to the right. As I try to figure that out, I only come up with two options.
1. The Scope Mounting has the scope not parallel/coterminous with the barrel. They 'point' in different directions. Or,
2. The scope is canted and not square with the barrel. So when I go up to 6.2 MOA to shoot 100 yards or 15.0 MOA to shoot 150 yards it is off because of cant.
What am I missing? What else could it be? I feel like I have looked hard at the upper two issues... Maybe not hard enough...
What would you suggest as a way to Trouble Shoot this? And make sure zero is zero on the vertical axis of the scope regardless of distance...
Thank you in advance for your help.
4Certain