They stayed out of stock when they didn’t have an adjustable mag catch. I’d imagine they won’t have any trouble selling the new ones either. I use a metal 10 and 12 rounder for every match. Never wanted the extra length of the 15 round mag.
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Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action
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10 is 3.96” from base to top and 12 is 4.41”. They both also hold an extra round so 11 and 13 rounds which covers pretty much every stage. Not sure on the 15 because I don’t own one but the angled ammo column of the new Vudoo 15 round mags should make them shorter than the old ones.
The new 15s are like the old 12s.
Which should be perfect. Mine run great now but if I was going to get one of the new ones it’ll be a 15
Are they staggering the rounds, like (semi) double stack to make the mags shorter? I've watched a couple videos on them, if that was mentioned I missed it.
No, just a diagonal is less vertical height than a straight line.
For the amount of work put into the latest Vudoo mags, it's much more value than the $80 Anschutz 10-rounder mag...
Not really when compared to Rim X mags which are $125. The new Vudoo mags are designed from ground up and will be tested and they will know they work from the get go. With the adjustable mag catch there should be no reason anyone has issues with these new mags.
I think 145 will be standard. With the L3I being 70-80 it seems like the added value of a billet mag will be something people either want to pony up for or they'll just buy the cheaper option.
They polys are running just fine in my MPA chassis so I think I'll stick with them. Honestly, they fit way tighter in the chassis than they do in Vudoos bottom metal 
The Devil you know and all that. Plus there is the pesky part where if I replace them all with the aluminums I'd need to drop about $2K.
The Devil you know and all that. Plus there is the pesky part where if I replace them all with the aluminums I'd need to drop about $2K.
After putting a ZCO 840 on top of my Vudoo, the price of the new magazines doesn't sound too bad.
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I'm picking up what you're putting down. All I have is a lowly 527 and I might grab a 15 rounder at some point (to avoid those pesky reloads on the 12 round stages) but right now that money is better spent on ammo, match fees, and travel. I'm usually 600 miles round trip for match plus a room. Different strokes for different folks. Now if the stages start going to 12 to 15 rounds all the time I'll change my tune!After putting a ZCO 840 on top of my Vudoo, the price of the new magazines doesn't sound too bad.
In the end there is no difference other than bolt lift. They are the same quality, both are smooth, both are capable of the same accuracy. No real difference so choose which ever you prefer…
Exactly. No one is saying you have to dump all the poly mags and replace them with aluminum but having a couple 15 round aluminum mags isn’t a bad idea.
Not to mention you can definitely find a used gen2 for a discounted price without waiting.
Mainly ergos. Both are excellent.
As for barrels, again both will work great. Have both and both shoot great. I always lean towards Bartlein if possible but going Ace is by no means a mistake. They are now offering straight 1.200" Bartlein barrels up to 24" length if that was something you were interested in.
I heard that about the straight contour. I was leaning towards the 22” MTU to help balance it out, but the straight contour is tempting. I’m going to be in SGU next week, hoping to swing by their shop if they allow walk-in customers.
I'd guess that it never hurts to let the folks at VGW know in advance when you expect to be there. Might not make a lot of difference, but it's just common courtesy.
After years of shooting 2-lug 22RF actions, shooting with the Three-60 was a little strange simply because of the shorter 60* bolt handle lift associated with the 3-lug action. First time I shot mine in a match, I found myself banging the bolt handle up against the stop because I was so used to 90* bolt lift. I bought the Three-60 action simply because it was new, more out of curiosity, not because of any perceived advantage it might have. Not sorry I built a nice rifle on it, but honestly, I still seem to run my 90* lift, 2-lug Vudoo rifles more smoothly & quickly. I also have a couple of the V22S 3-lug actions, and four rifles built on BAT 3-lug single shot actions, but don't attempt to run those rifles with any speed like some timed matches force you to.
Sure wish the 24" 1.200 Bartlein barrels were available when I ordered my Vudoo, Rob.
But that's always the way it goes with my luck. :-(
Might have to send my rifle to Kenny and get a 1.200 Shilen 26" as that's my favorite length.
Yup, agreed. I emailed them last night and heard back today. I’m all set to visit them Monday to compare both actions side by side and talk about barrel options.
time yet again for my girl to change clothes. going from foundation back to my long range shooting roots and putting her in a McMillan A4 USMC stock.
will i need anything fit wise? 22" MTU. and i assume i can use my vudoo bottom metal but if not i will get a m5 from somewhere.
also big thanks to @Krob95 for doing the footwork to procure said stock
will i need anything fit wise? 22" MTU. and i assume i can use my vudoo bottom metal but if not i will get a m5 from somewhere.
also big thanks to @Krob95 for doing the footwork to procure said stock
Tested Eley ammo for the first time in my Vudoo this morning. These are 4 consecutive 5 shot groups shot at 100m with Eley Match. Shot Gr 1 first, then adjusted 1 click up and 2 clicks right. Thereafter shot Gr 2 & Gr 3. Last group was shot after conditions changed - had to wait for a few other shooters to setup on the range.
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Thanks, I just bought a case (5000) of this lot Eley Match. It's the only Eley lot that I tested but it performed better than the four different lots Center-X that I tested.
I tested about a dozen different lots of Lapua Center-X back in 2018 before finding a lot that was definitely worth buying in quantity. Has Lapua found a way to produce better quality lots on average since then? The first & so far only time I've sent one of my V22 repeaters to Mesa to have it lot tested in 2019, Daniel tested five or six lots of CX plus all the Midas+ they had in stock at the time, and there was one lot of CX that shot better than any of the Midas+, and that was slightly better than any of the rest of the CX he had on hand. At that time, CX was $1000/case, and I bought 2 cases of it - by far the most money I'd ever spent at one time on 22RF ammo at that point in time. I questioned my sanity for spending that much back then, but had I known what the future of match quality 22RF ammo was going to be like just a year or so later, I'd have bought twice as much of it...even if it meant selling another rifle to pay for it.
Picked my Vudoo up from Modacam Friday after having it rebarreled with a 24” Krieger. Much easier to balance in the Foundation stock now with no additional weight needed. My rifle is actually lighter overall now than it was with the 22” MTU from Vudoo since I had to add weight for balance. Got some rounds through it Friday evening at 50 and 75 yards with multiple flavors of ammo. It is not picky on ammo. Picture is of the first 5 shot group I fired at 100 yards Saturday morning with Eley match. Shot it again this morning at 110 yards and 10 5 shot groups averaged just over .6”. No lot testing or tuning yet but I’m very happy with it so far.
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Visited VGW this morning and had a great time talking to Paul and some of the staff there. Super friendly people and awesome to get a quick tour of the shop. I even got to play with their new 1911 and double stack 1911. I already have quite a few 1911 and 2011’s or I’d be seriously tempted. Those are sweet pistols.
My main reason for going there was to compare the V22 and Three-60 side by side, and you guys who said it really only came down to ergos are right. Paul showed me all the ins and outs of the bolt internal workings and we talked about their bolt stop. Essentially they did a small redesign for the Gen 2/3 with a more robust button and said they have not had any customer complaints with the new redesign.
We also talked barrel options, ranging from their 22” MTU/Kukri to the 22-24” no taper Bartlein barrels they are now offering.
I placed an order for a V-22 barreled-action with the 22” no taper bbl (easier to balance it out), and asked them to include a TT 2-stage to mimic my centerfire rifle. Looking at approx 30-days to my FFL.
As far as mags go, they told me the polymer 10-rnd mags will be standard with any new order, and the new mags shown at SHOT are still a little ways out but will be a special order by Q2. So I got 2 polymer 10-rnd mags for now and hope to pick up a couple of the new ones when they are released.
Highly recommend stopping by if you’re in St. George. Call or email ahead of time.
My main reason for going there was to compare the V22 and Three-60 side by side, and you guys who said it really only came down to ergos are right. Paul showed me all the ins and outs of the bolt internal workings and we talked about their bolt stop. Essentially they did a small redesign for the Gen 2/3 with a more robust button and said they have not had any customer complaints with the new redesign.
We also talked barrel options, ranging from their 22” MTU/Kukri to the 22-24” no taper Bartlein barrels they are now offering.
I placed an order for a V-22 barreled-action with the 22” no taper bbl (easier to balance it out), and asked them to include a TT 2-stage to mimic my centerfire rifle. Looking at approx 30-days to my FFL.
As far as mags go, they told me the polymer 10-rnd mags will be standard with any new order, and the new mags shown at SHOT are still a little ways out but will be a special order by Q2. So I got 2 polymer 10-rnd mags for now and hope to pick up a couple of the new ones when they are released.
Highly recommend stopping by if you’re in St. George. Call or email ahead of time.
Ok guys, I’ve followed this thread from day one. The wealth of knowledge here on all the in’s and out’s of not just Vudoo’s but rimfire in general is next level. I have learned more from this thread than every other thread I follow combined. That being said I need a little help. I’m ate up with the 22 bug and have tinkered with several different rifles until I bit the bullet and bought a Vudoo. My current rig is a V22 with a trigger tech diamond and an 18” MTU, sitting in a Bravo chassis with a Athlon Ares ETR in a Spuhr. When I built the rifle I went with an 18” (finished out about 17.25”) barrel because I thought I would shoot with a can 90% of the time. I find myself shooting mostly without the can now. I have decided I want a longer barrel (22” MTU?) for a little better balance and maybe a little better accuracy, although it shoots pretty dang good right now. My current barreled action has just a hair over 9,000 rounds down the tube and I honestly don’t know if it’s a gen 1, 1.2, or gen 2. Serial number is very low 2700’s. With all that being said, I am looking at a mueller works 22” mtu or Shilen ratchet R0 finished at 22”. I’ll probably run a tuner as well. My question: am I thinking right to rebarrel this action or should I sell it and just start over with a new barreled action? Are the newer generations that much better? Should I thread for the suppressor and run an adapter or just thread for the tuner? My current action is as smooth as butter and has never had any feeding issues. I also have plenty of other .22’s to shoot with the can. I mainly just shoot for fun out to 500 yards. I prefer Lapua center x but as you all know I’m shooting whatever Lapua or SK I can find. I’m also pretty sure no matter what I do there is probably a trip to the Lapua testing center in the future. I would love to hear some of your suggestions and recommendations. I appreciate all the lessons I’ve learned from reading the past 202 pages of the Vudoo thread. Thanks in advance.
For $500 VGW will rebarrel your current action to whatever length and contour you want. If you have the older Gen bolt stop I believe they will re-cut it to accept the newer (larger) bolt stop. Give them a shout I’m sure they can tell you what Gen you have and what your options are.
Agreed, I would put a new barrel on your existing action. Then after verifying your new barrel does what you wanted have your old barrel either re-contoured to a much lighter contour or have it heavily fluted to make it as light as possible. Buy an action wrench and a barrel vise to have a heavy rifle and a walking around rifle…
Yup you can send your rifle back to Vudoo. I will be doing it with my original Vudoo, serial number 10, in a couple months. Want to change the length and contour and get a fresh barrel on there.
The last few barrels I've done for my Vudoos were: a 23" Krieger; 25" Shilen R0; 25" Benchmark R5 - none of which were threaded . I've got both Pro-X & Harrells tuners on them, and have no intention of ever threading any of them to use my suppressors. If I want to shoot suppressed, I still have a V22 sporter that I put a 22" Krieger #4 sporter on, as well as a couple of CZ457s that I re-barreled with Shilen ratchets that are threaded. I used to shoot PRS/22NRL type matches suppressed, but don't do it anymore, as the accuracy I'm seeing with a tuner is considerably better than with a suppressor mounted.
As far as barrel length goes, I've always felt the 22" bbls I started wiht give better balance & accuracy - as well as being quieter with std vel ammo than shorter barrels.
As far as barrel length goes, I've always felt the 22" bbls I started wiht give better balance & accuracy - as well as being quieter with std vel ammo than shorter barrels.
Yeah I concur on the 22" length. Got my latest this past year with a 22" MTU and it's very accurate and sits nice on a barricade. Also heavier than my previous 18" Kukri so that helps it settle also. My 18" Kukri is the one I will be rebarreling in the next couple months.
So I am FAR from an expert but at the matches I shoot there are us mere mortals and then what I call the "supershooters". Most of them are running 1.25" straight blanks in the 24" to 27" range that are threaded specifically for a tuner. These are the same guys ditching their TTs for other triggers because the timing is leaving accuracy on the table . Not hating BTW they are at another level and shoot like it! I am a barely middle of the pack shooter and I promise you my barrel length, trigger, scope, et al are not the weak link. I am the weak link.
P.S. Running 20" MTUs on both my Vudoos and couldn't be happier. Well, almost... I can't quite get the balance where I want it and I think the extra 2" of MTU proflie would hit my supposed sweet spot but it's a very minor gripe and on the clock I forget all about it!
. Not hating BTW they are at another level and shoot like it! I am a barely middle of the pack shooter and I promise you my barrel length, trigger, scope, et al are not the weak link. I am the weak link.P.S. Running 20" MTUs on both my Vudoos and couldn't be happier. Well, almost... I can't quite get the balance where I want it and I think the extra 2" of MTU proflie would hit my supposed sweet spot but it's a very minor gripe and on the clock I forget all about it!
So I am FAR from an expert but at the matches I shoot there are us mere mortals and then what I call the "supershooters". Most of them are running 1.25" straight blanks in the 24" to 27" range that are threaded specifically for a tuner. These are the same guys ditching their TTs for other triggers because the timing is leaving accuracy on the table
P.S. Running 20" MTUs on both my Vudoos and couldn't be happier. Well, almost... I can't quite get the balance where I want it and I think the extra 2" of MTU proflie would hit my supposed sweet spot but it's a very minor gripe and on the clock I forget all about it!
Justin Carbone runs a pretty light 14lb anschutz. Paul Dallin runs a 15lb Vudoo with an 18" kukri.
I do agree that the heavier the rifle (and balance) does help game stability.
The super shooters are great wind readers which separates them.
100% agree! The fella that won the match last week beat second by 11 points and stated (in a non bragging way) that he could have won the match with any rifle there. That speaks to his ability, not only to read wind, but to move and shoot so smoothly, that he looked slow but would consistenly finish a stage with 30 seconds to spare.
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Yeah the wind reading part is a difficult piece of the puzzle for me as well. I’ve been forcing myself to shoot on those windy days I would typically pass on. I am fortunate in the fact that I am able to shoot long range (out to 500) at various angles so I can get wind from different angles on the same day of shooting. It amazes me how much just a slight shift in the wind can change your wind call drastically with a .22 at longer ranges.
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