Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action
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We've shipped everything out so if someone doesn't have a shipping number they need to let us know lol. We're saving some for Nationals to give people a chance to buy them in person and then we'll throw another big batch up on the site
Got my L3I 15rd Al mag this week, set it up on Friday at home to get it running....LOL, had all kinds of weird missfeeds...1st round would jam, clear it cycle the rest then reload the 10, 4th round would jam, clear it then reload the 10, 8th round!!!
WTH is going on? Kept adjusting the height, standoff setting screws, etc, etc...finally figured out it was that one round was somehow miss-shaped and it was the same round jamming each time.
Once I took it out and just used the 'good' rounds it fed fine.
Took it to the range Sunday and ran multiple 15 round tests on the bench and barricades and it ran flawless.
WTH is going on? Kept adjusting the height, standoff setting screws, etc, etc...finally figured out it was that one round was somehow miss-shaped and it was the same round jamming each time.
Once I took it out and just used the 'good' rounds it fed fine.
Took it to the range Sunday and ran multiple 15 round tests on the bench and barricades and it ran flawless.
Ordered 2 barreled actions in August as 24” MTU. They just emailed today saying they can’t do 24” only 22”. This sound right?
I thought others were getting 24”
Not trying to bash emailed them back just a question of why they took my order 2 months ago saying yes no problem take my money now oooos we messed up.
I thought others were getting 24”
Not trying to bash emailed them back just a question of why they took my order 2 months ago saying yes no problem take my money now oooos we messed up.
Yes that is correct. The Kukri and MTU go to 22" and the 1.2" go to 24".
Finally got the new L3I Stinger mag in. What a shit show with the UPS to USPS service. It sucks period.
I took the time last night to set up the mag. Just a word of warning.. once you get it adjusted to your liking make sure you SAFELY chamber some rounds and extract them. Inspect the bullet tips. I initially adjusted the mag with very little vertical play which felt like it fed fine. But when I extracted the rounds I noticed that there were large scrapes on the bullet tips. As they were feeding in they were making too sharp of an angle up and in catching the upper edge of the chamber.
I ended up giving the mag a bit more up and down play which brought the mag height a little lower. Now when I chamber and extract the bullet tip looks untouched. The mag has about 1/16” play but that solved the bullet tip situation.
When I insert the mag I give it a pull down and it works just fine.
I’m using my Vudoo in a Foundation stock with the MDT bottom metal.
I took the time last night to set up the mag. Just a word of warning.. once you get it adjusted to your liking make sure you SAFELY chamber some rounds and extract them. Inspect the bullet tips. I initially adjusted the mag with very little vertical play which felt like it fed fine. But when I extracted the rounds I noticed that there were large scrapes on the bullet tips. As they were feeding in they were making too sharp of an angle up and in catching the upper edge of the chamber.
I ended up giving the mag a bit more up and down play which brought the mag height a little lower. Now when I chamber and extract the bullet tip looks untouched. The mag has about 1/16” play but that solved the bullet tip situation.
When I insert the mag I give it a pull down and it works just fine.
I’m using my Vudoo in a Foundation stock with the MDT bottom metal.
Oh man, I feel ya there. My original ETA was for this past Saturday. It's now back to "The delivery date will be provided as soon as possible" SMH. Apparently the Post Office has it as of 6am today though so
Appreciate the tip on setup. I had similar issues with the Elite mags and had to play with the height a lot. Glad to hear they're working well so far now that you have them setup.
I received my second order and set them up…real simple in an Envy Pro just set them to were they are tight to the bottom of the action and they run flawless and feed straight into the chamber even if I push on the mag.
The only thing I see is is make sure the first round is not nosing down at all…awesome mags!!
The only thing I see is is make sure the first round is not nosing down at all…awesome mags!!
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Yeah running them tight against the action caused damage to the bullet tips on my rifle even though they fed fine. Seems like adjustment will widely vary from each rifle and chassis.
@LR1845 If you didn’t check, Vudoo currently has the Gen 3 wrenches in stock. They are no longer grayed out and you can order one. I just did..
My two L3i Stinger mags showed up yesterday, after getting stuck for a few days in the 'black hole' that the Wichita, Ks. postal hub has turned into. Had an even worse experience with a couple of really nice Unertl scopes that came from a seller in Arizona this past spring - the seller is a stand-up guy, and was on the Scottsdale PO like stink on you-know-what when they didn't show up here. For awhile, it appeared that they'd never left Az., but then we discovered that they were sitting in Wichita, and continued to be hung-up there for another week. I live only 200mi west of Wichita, and am far from the only person who has had issues with that postal hub - our 'local' news comes out of the Wichita TV stations, and there was a story on how screwed-up things are there on the news a few months ago. So when I got my shipping notice last week that originated in Lee's Summit, Mo., I knew that if there was a hold-up, it would come when the package got to Wichita.
Whatever - I wasted no time in getting one of the mags set up to work in my Three-60, which is in a Manners PRS1T with PTG Stealth DBM. I haven't had time to run any rounds out of the mag, but will do so sometime today to check how smoothly they feed and whether I need to raise the mag catch to allow a slight bit of vertical play to avoid dinging the nose of the bullets. I did try the mags in my oldest V22 - a Gen 1 that I've owned since 2017 - that's also in a Manners PRS1T with the same Stealth DBM as the 360 - but it won't latch, and will need to be adjusted to work in that rifle. This could perhaps be because I've got it adjusted to latch up tight in the 360, and if I need to back off how snug I've got it set for, then it might fit fine in the older rifle. Just need time to play with the Stingers...I'm very impressed with the quality and how slick the follower runs.
Whatever - I wasted no time in getting one of the mags set up to work in my Three-60, which is in a Manners PRS1T with PTG Stealth DBM. I haven't had time to run any rounds out of the mag, but will do so sometime today to check how smoothly they feed and whether I need to raise the mag catch to allow a slight bit of vertical play to avoid dinging the nose of the bullets. I did try the mags in my oldest V22 - a Gen 1 that I've owned since 2017 - that's also in a Manners PRS1T with the same Stealth DBM as the 360 - but it won't latch, and will need to be adjusted to work in that rifle. This could perhaps be because I've got it adjusted to latch up tight in the 360, and if I need to back off how snug I've got it set for, then it might fit fine in the older rifle. Just need time to play with the Stingers...I'm very impressed with the quality and how slick the follower runs.
I just got mine yesterday as well. USPS isn't great hear but definitely nothing like what some have experienced.
These mags are super nice and have already started playing with them. I have my 360 in a Manners TCS so no adjustable mag latch. I have noticed what when I get them really snug, the mag release becomes super hard to actuate and drop the mags. I have to rock them around a bit to get them to drop if I get them really snug.
I've since adjusted them so they sit almost exactly like the OE polymer mags and they seems to run great. I've run them with 15 dummy rounds several times with no issues. We'll see how well they work at the range when I get out next.
Side note, these are heavy as f*ck. Just over 1 lb not loaded.
These mags are super nice and have already started playing with them. I have my 360 in a Manners TCS so no adjustable mag latch. I have noticed what when I get them really snug, the mag release becomes super hard to actuate and drop the mags. I have to rock them around a bit to get them to drop if I get them really snug.
I've since adjusted them so they sit almost exactly like the OE polymer mags and they seems to run great. I've run them with 15 dummy rounds several times with no issues. We'll see how well they work at the range when I get out next.
Side note, these are heavy as f*ck. Just over 1 lb not loaded.
@Mark_Dorman Mark he made them heavy to mimic a loaded AICS mag....That was the first thing I said when I opened my package was Damn these are heavy.
If I had a mill I would make it lighter. I personally don’t need to mimic a centerfire mag. It doesn’t throw off the balance of my rifle but there is a subtle difference.
It definitely doesn't need to be this heavy, but I can live with it. I also check to see if it changed the balance on my rifle. It shifted the balance point back by like 1/8" which is fine. My main complain is my rifle just jumped a full pound in overall weight. Not a huge deal, but a tad annoying considering I liked where it was at.
That’s it for me. I’m light to favor a bad shoulder even though my rife really could use a couple more ounces up front. So, I’ll just stick with the poly mags. In my case, the poly mags work perfectly. Plus, the weight of my rifle is fine just like it Is. Guess it’s a question of why fix what isn’t broke.
Still one always has to appreciate the fine workmanship of these new magazines.
Still one always has to appreciate the fine workmanship of these new magazines.
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I got my stinger mags in as well. Bought a couple for me and a buddy. Damn that little box was heavy!
I got them adjusted by using YouTube videos lol. I will say you have to leave a little slop and also make sure your bolt is closed. Got my adjust perfectly and my bolt was open
They are very heavy and fall free very easily. They feed great and are smooth.
I got them adjusted by using YouTube videos lol. I will say you have to leave a little slop and also make sure your bolt is closed. Got my adjust perfectly and my bolt was open
They are very heavy and fall free very easily. They feed great and are smooth.
I like the weight, love the adjustability and craftsmanship...I have never really had issues with the poly mags other than an occasional rim lock when loading in a hurry but solved that with a mag loader...I guess for me I just like quality....Or is it just spending money on stuff I don't really need LOL!!
For shits and grins my Gray Ops 12rd BR mag loaded to full capacity with 105 Hybrids using Alpha Dasher brass with 30.4gn of powder each only weighs 13.6 oz total.
MDT 12rd steel mag with 140gr ELD 6.5CM weighs 18.3 oz. Stinger mag fully loaded with Lapua CX is 19 oz.
Why would it even be thought of to make it super heavy like a centerfire? Makes no sense at all. Never have I said "man I wish this magazine weighed as much as my centerfire mags!". LOL It's probably that weight just because that's how it worked out in manufacture. I wouldn't read into it anymore than that.
Same dudes who will throw on 4lbs of bolt on weights...mags too heavy though
Many PRS guys use their 22 setups as "trainers" and have them setup to be as close to possible to their centerfire rifles. You could argue that the mag weight doesn't make that much of difference in the grand scheme of training and I would agree.
I agree too that mag weight means squat even in a “trainer”. I have been using aics mags in my match rifles for 20 years and poly mags in my Vudoo for 7 years. Weight makes no difference.
I know the Stinger mag was made for their Stinger action but I’m sure they knew that the Vudoo owners would jump on board. If I was a betting man I’m sure a large percentage of the Vudoo owners wouldn’t have spec’ed out a heavy ass mag if they asked for pre-production feedback. Maybe they did. Who knows. A 19 oz loaded mag doesn’t make my rifle ass heavy but I also don’t need 19 oz for gaming purposes.
I have been using the old original Vudoo aluminum mags and never thought about how much they weighed until reading this thread. 15 round mag loaded with Lapua Long Range 
That’s still 5 ounces lighter than fully loaded Stinger mag.I have been using the old original Vudoo aluminum mags and never thought about how much they weighed until reading this thread. 15 round mag loaded with Lapua Long Range
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I will still throw this caution out to Vudoo owners using Stinger mags. Even if it feels like it’s feeding smoothly, extract the rounds to inspect the ENTIRE bullet itself. I got mine to stop dinging the bullet tips but it’s scraping the band area now. And yes it feels like it was feeding fine. I’m at a point in the adjustment I can’t go any more one way or other on the latch adjustment. If the mag sits any lower it’ll scrape even more. Any higher up and it’ll start dinging the tips.
The solution I can come up with is less nose up presentation of the bullet in the mag. But does it work? Yes it does. That said I need to test it with other ammo I have. I’m currently using CX.
Again to be fair this mag was not designed for the Vudoo. This is a sample size of ONE. I’m aware each rifle will be different and have no issues at all.
The solution I can come up with is less nose up presentation of the bullet in the mag. But does it work? Yes it does. That said I need to test it with other ammo I have. I’m currently using CX.
Again to be fair this mag was not designed for the Vudoo. This is a sample size of ONE. I’m aware each rifle will be different and have no issues at all.
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Shot a NRL22 match yesterday and saw 3 rifles running these new mags, two of those rifle had feeding issues and those shooters said they tuned their mags multiple times. Due to the design I doubt it has anything to do with rim lock but seems adjusting these accurately is key.
I have the stock, plastic, magazines and use to get the rim lock problem. I got one of the @Panther magazine loaders but he has, sadly, passed.
His magazine loader easily solved the problem of rim lock. However, I have found a couple of magazine loaders.
This first one looks like the product that Panther produced.
https://jklprecision.com/product/vudoo-speed-loader/
This second one looks like might be a little better than the aforementioned loader.
https://www.battleengineering.com/product/speed-loaders/
His magazine loader easily solved the problem of rim lock. However, I have found a couple of magazine loaders.
This first one looks like the product that Panther produced.
https://jklprecision.com/product/vudoo-speed-loader/
This second one looks like might be a little better than the aforementioned loader.
https://www.battleengineering.com/product/speed-loaders/
I switched to different ammo yesterday which has a different bullet shape. Again the feel is misleading. I’m smashing the bullet tip even though based on feel it feeds “fine.” You would never know there is an issue if you don’t extract and look. I’ve done all I can adjusting. I’ll revisit the mag again if I ever switch chassis. I’ll stick with the factory plastic mags which work 100%. I just have to take care loading them.
I've had a very different experience so far. I played with the adjustment quite a bit (maybe 20 minutes) the first day trying to get the mags to lock in snuggly. I ended up just setting them up so they seat the same as the OE mags. I saw your post about your bullets getting dinged up so decided to pull my rifle out and tested it today. I've only tested this with SK ammo, but I didn't have any issues with either of my magazines.
The bullet on the right was chambered 3 times and the bullet on the left was never chambered. Aside from the grove marks from the rifling, the bullet looked no different before or after chambering. Sorry the pictures aren't great, but kind of hard to get close details on 22lr. I've had bullet tips get damaged due to poor feeding so I know what to look for. That was mostly in my 10/22, but my Vudoo has done it with the old L3i Elite mags. I have those adjusted really well, but every now and then they don't feed properly.
Anyways, not sure if the different is our setups (V22 360 in Manners TCS w/ Mini Chassis) or the actual magazines, but everyone here should test them out for themselves. I haven't had a chance to really run these heavily or in competition yet as October is super busy both for work and personal life.
If I were to film myself running the bolt in and out and feeding rounds from the mag and post it, I guarantee 100% would comment, “ok what’s the problem?”
Here’s the problem at least with my sample size of one. I have it adjusted the best I can. Any higher up and it won’t even feed. The feed angle is too great. Any lower and it scrapes the 6 oclock part of the band. How it’s adjusted now it’s doing both. Again if I didn’t pay attention I would never known based on feel. Pictures show best sample with the “least” damage.
Here’s the problem at least with my sample size of one. I have it adjusted the best I can. Any higher up and it won’t even feed. The feed angle is too great. Any lower and it scrapes the 6 oclock part of the band. How it’s adjusted now it’s doing both. Again if I didn’t pay attention I would never known based on feel. Pictures show best sample with the “least” damage.
Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s just me. My barreled action is from Vudoo. I’m using a Foundation stock with an MDT bottom metal. Trust me I’ve done everything you can imagine.. adjusting on both ends.
Wow that is really bad. Probably a dumb question, but did you mess with depth adjustment much? I ended up canting mine in at the bottom slightly to get a better release, but wondering if there is any more adjustment there you could mess with.
I’ve done it all. I’ve wasted probably 100+ rounds trying to dial it in. I’m not wasting any more ammo at this point unless I switch stocks. My Curtis conversion uses Vudoo mags so I might mess with that and the Stinger mag.
I know it is going to be a quiet news day for most of you so I thought I'd just give an update on my 360, on this it's 3rd birthday.
Most remarkably, it has over 92.5K rounds through it and since Sept 27 I'm on a stretch of the most consistently high scores I've ever had while working through two different cases/lots of ammo. At about 85K I began to experience a FTF about every 30-40 and I put it down to that lot. But when it continued on the next lot/case I changed the firing pin spring.
But that wasn't all we did. Over time the top of the cocking ramp had worn and migrated into the cocking notch and I was experiencing decocking when running the bolt. We milled/re-established the cocking notch. Being committed to my 360 I am in the process of ordering some spare parts ... bolt handle, cocking piece, FP springs.
How committed ... I have ordered a second BA and trigger. This time I'll try a Bartlein 26 inch BR profile. It will be interesting to see if it out performs my current 22 inch Kukri ACE. I am not unhappy with the ACE in any way. The second BA just eliminates the possibility of any down time ... I shoot over 350 days a year. The second BA will also give me options ammo-wise since I am unable to lot test and always buy multiple cases blind. Maybe a mediocre lot in one BA will perform a little better in the other.
Most remarkably, it has over 92.5K rounds through it and since Sept 27 I'm on a stretch of the most consistently high scores I've ever had while working through two different cases/lots of ammo. At about 85K I began to experience a FTF about every 30-40 and I put it down to that lot. But when it continued on the next lot/case I changed the firing pin spring.
But that wasn't all we did. Over time the top of the cocking ramp had worn and migrated into the cocking notch and I was experiencing decocking when running the bolt. We milled/re-established the cocking notch. Being committed to my 360 I am in the process of ordering some spare parts ... bolt handle, cocking piece, FP springs.
How committed ... I have ordered a second BA and trigger. This time I'll try a Bartlein 26 inch BR profile. It will be interesting to see if it out performs my current 22 inch Kukri ACE. I am not unhappy with the ACE in any way. The second BA just eliminates the possibility of any down time ... I shoot over 350 days a year. The second BA will also give me options ammo-wise since I am unable to lot test and always buy multiple cases blind. Maybe a mediocre lot in one BA will perform a little better in the other.
It only cost half of that ... it wasn't a government job. LOL
About 1/2 SK RM and LRM and about 1/2 Cx.
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