That ^^^ funny. You crazy as a barn owl. All my personalities have integrated. We all think there's just one of me now but we're not all 100% on this.
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Weed for ptsd. Thoughts?
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That ^^^ funny. You crazy as a barn owl. All my personalities have integrated. We all think there's just one of me now but we're not all 100% on this.
Jesus fuck, you non reading dipshits made me quote myself. But no, don't bother to read the whole fucking thread, including my post on it from over two years ago. Here Maggot, I'll save you the time in responding because you already did. Two years ago. Page one in the thread if you're wondering.
<The rest not directed at Maggot or anyone else specific, it's a general statement to anyone and everyone.>Well said, Red. But it doesnt have to be lifetime. I over came mine. Now Im normal as Maser.
If you look into it they have been getting some good results from the use of the psychedelics I mentioned above. They need to be done in conjunction with good solid counseling.
Enjoy your weed. Enjoy your booze. Chase the fucking dragon for all I care. Just don't think it will cure PTSD without actually dealing with the condition, and trying to deal with it yourself while lighting up pot to subvert the symptoms instead of dealing with the cause and effect of whatever you experienced is absolutely kicking a can down the road. I don't give a shit if you do it with a therapist, buddies, a self-help book or serious critical thinking about the condition, you're either swimming through it or you're treading water, and doing nothing but toking up is treading water.
Again, and respectfully, you cant judge everyones experience by yours. I know some that it definitely helped. For me it WAS jsut kicking the can but kicking the can kept the gun out of my mouth until I could find acceptable resolution. Its difficult but we need to learn to accept others viewpoint and not just negate them because it may not work for us.
I am so sorry for you. That's got to be really boring with only one voice in the head...lol
When I retire I'm gonna buy a big ass spread and smoke dope and drink hooch and shoot stuff and I aint buying a single permit, anyone don't like that they can come tell me how it has ruined their lives and livelihood so I can fucking laugh at them and blow smoke in their face. My ancestors fought and died for this land and goddamnit I intend to enjoy it even if I gotta wait until I'm an old crotchety fuckass. You can't stop the future, maybe call up Tom Cruise and figure out some minority report shit cause hand to god it's gonna fuckin happen no matter what anyone says, and I don't give a fuck how hard you by the book buttholes clutch your pearls about it right now. Our Forefathers smoked mad weed and fucked off at the cops, lotta folks round here are the ones that need to adjust the way I see it.
I think you already have the crotchety old fuckass thing covered 
Takes one to know one
Takes one to know one
I know a navy corpsman, who admits to ptsd, and that he uses marijuana on a daily basis, among other meds. I'm so sorry he had to go through what he did. My impression now is: I'm glad he uses it; whatever helps get him through the day. I still would not consider inviting him out to my place to shoot, as he can turn on a dime.
Its all personal but I would not want to shoot up heroin to take the place of seeing a dentist just as Id rather get to real problem a person is going through , than push drugs on them weed is not medication and it sure is not going to cure anything yea the chemicals have been able to help glaucoma and on those going through cancer treatment to keep down food and it shows pretty good results for people who have or get seizures but it's not the part where they are getting high that helps them its some of the combination of the chemicals . Getting any help to is better than suffering alone . But tax payer funding getting high is a waist . Get a job pay for your own drugs and get as high as you want on your dime . you want to get help then get help real help not a bandade .
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I've seen too many friends and brothers-in-arms fail to seek help, until it was too late and they ended up dead in their own hometown.
I've seen too many treat themselves with weed and alcohol, becoming shells of the men I once knew.
I've seen too many ask for help and ended up with doctor-enabled opiate addictions on top of the issues, and became shells of the men I once knew.
None of the ones that got better... that got back to roughly who they once were... did it without heavy counseling, support, and -dare I say it- love.
I have to trust my own eyes on this. Weed's not a cure, it's a coping mechanism. Somtimes it's needed, but is just a tool in the bag.. not a magic wand.
For the ones that ended up on a daily oxy regimen (sponsored by your local VA Hospital), I wish weed were an option for them at the time until the good docs got it figured out. Their personal and emotional damage would have been less and the path to recovery would have been much quicker and easier.
Personally, my dog was the best tool around for curing the stinkin' thinkins. Unconditional love, unquestionable trust, and an ear wiling to listen any time, without judgement.
As a PS, I found this 2-year old thread getting resurrected yesterday a bit curious. There was a news article published the same time about Ann Arbor decriminalizing all 'natural' psychedelics... citing, you guessed it, treatment for PTSD.
I've seen too many treat themselves with weed and alcohol, becoming shells of the men I once knew.
I've seen too many ask for help and ended up with doctor-enabled opiate addictions on top of the issues, and became shells of the men I once knew.
None of the ones that got better... that got back to roughly who they once were... did it without heavy counseling, support, and -dare I say it- love.
I have to trust my own eyes on this. Weed's not a cure, it's a coping mechanism. Somtimes it's needed, but is just a tool in the bag.. not a magic wand.
For the ones that ended up on a daily oxy regimen (sponsored by your local VA Hospital), I wish weed were an option for them at the time until the good docs got it figured out. Their personal and emotional damage would have been less and the path to recovery would have been much quicker and easier.
Personally, my dog was the best tool around for curing the stinkin' thinkins. Unconditional love, unquestionable trust, and an ear wiling to listen any time, without judgement.
As a PS, I found this 2-year old thread getting resurrected yesterday a bit curious. There was a news article published the same time about Ann Arbor decriminalizing all 'natural' psychedelics... citing, you guessed it, treatment for PTSD.
I used to work in a Nuero lab where we would do fmri on veterans with ptsd and tbi. I really enjoyed talking to them, they were all great people and had great stories. The things they went through would have completely broken lesser humans.
I will say that for each person we also did a tox screen. We would have had to throw pretty much all the data away had we made being clean a requirement. They were using whatever they could find to help themselves live life. We are failing them.
I never had the mind to tell a one of them to stop smoking MJ who the fuck am I to tell that man that gave so much for me to stop smoking weed that helps him feel like he can go on? Fuck. that. I am also not saying self medicating with weed is a cure for PTSD. I do think, for some, it can be a worthwhile symptom treatment while you work with other means of “fixing” some of the root causes, and is much rather people with PTSD self medicate with MJ to subdue the demons that all the other stuff I saw on those tox screens...
As far as what weed “does” I think people put way too much emphasis on what it does for them, and then use that to decide whether other people should be using it. Not really how it works.
I will say that for each person we also did a tox screen. We would have had to throw pretty much all the data away had we made being clean a requirement. They were using whatever they could find to help themselves live life. We are failing them.
I never had the mind to tell a one of them to stop smoking MJ who the fuck am I to tell that man that gave so much for me to stop smoking weed that helps him feel like he can go on? Fuck. that. I am also not saying self medicating with weed is a cure for PTSD. I do think, for some, it can be a worthwhile symptom treatment while you work with other means of “fixing” some of the root causes, and is much rather people with PTSD self medicate with MJ to subdue the demons that all the other stuff I saw on those tox screens...
As far as what weed “does” I think people put way too much emphasis on what it does for them, and then use that to decide whether other people should be using it. Not really how it works.
Well they aren't really optional taxes, but they offset some of the things taxes pay for. In no way do they lower your taxes.
I opt out of paying the lotto, therfore it is optional. Those who choose to pay the lotto are adding to the state coffers. I agree, it does not lower my taxes, it does give the state more $$.
It just doesn't take much to trigger you. Which tells all. Nothing but faux bravado, as usual. F this, F that.
It didn't take long for some of us to get your number shortly after you showed up on this website. Oh, you're one of the "coulda, woulda, shoulda, but" types pertaining to why no military service. What was your handle then? Goldielocks ,or something like that.
Then your borderline "Stolen Valor" bullshit giving people the impression that you're some kind of tough military person. But, on the other hand, word on the street is that you have a chest full of campaign ribbons, a Navy Cross and the coveted Combat Action Ribbon, albeit from a Crackerjack box.
Feel free with your jabs, which sounds to me like they're coming from a 12 year cunt. Again, which tells all what you're made of. And I love hearing them.
Now go tell mommy that you got your feelings hurt.
Youre in dream land. Or is it hallucinations?
A little man who can only justify itself by trying to put down others. Ive made a lot of friends here. Men, not jerkoffs like you.Been to several of their homes, had several at my home. Anything you say about me is like water off a ducks back.
Nope, not gonna stir this pot. Ain't gonna do it!
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Exactly, and I still deal with it now. Hoping the urologist found the right anti biotics this time. Does that excite you?
So which face does the resident dope peddler have on today? Oh, I see the "whining victim", from your last post. And what does he(?) have to say? Not much, I see. Thought you'd do the customary 100 words of nothing.
And be sure and leave my handle on your custom title line. You do quite well in defining yourself. No help is needed from me.
Ah, thank you. The adults have returned.
Philosophically I lean libertarian with a small L as the Libertarian party is a joke. This informs my view of these kind of things in general
carry on, gentlemen.
Whine all you want, it won't unbutthurt you. Honestly, your displeasure in this thread speaks volumes about the things that must really matter to you— nothing actually fucking important. Maggot actually agreed with you outright initially, then you jump in and bust his balls for facing the music in his own life? Why don't you go be irrelevant somewhere else you fucking closeted bootlicker.
If you listen to the latest Andy Stumpf podcast with Mike Glover, Mike openly talks about his use of weed and mushrooms. He even has a funny story of a doctor shooting him up with too much ketamine. The way I see it is, if weed helps our vets recover from whatever they’re suffering from, then so be it. It’s so much better than them being drunks or strung out on opiates that leads to heroine when they can’t afford the opiates anymore.
Oh my. I'm afraid you're the bootlicker. Or the one in the crowd that gathers around a schoolyard fight and you take a cheap shot at one as they pass by. How brave.
I have a Canadian friend.
He's a Vietnam vet and retired RCMP drugs squad leader and higher up.
He has suffered from severe PTSD for decades.
He has been using various forms of THC for years and recently started microdosing mushrooms.
The effect has been almost immediate and profoundly beneficial for him and his family.
Case study,N=1
He's a Vietnam vet and retired RCMP drugs squad leader and higher up.
He has suffered from severe PTSD for decades.
He has been using various forms of THC for years and recently started microdosing mushrooms.
The effect has been almost immediate and profoundly beneficial for him and his family.
Case study,N=1
You might be right. Humorous to look back and see how many contributors have been banned. Notice it's usually new guys that keep finding it and bringing it back.
And there it is, we all knew you were just another fucking spammer.
Fuck.
Off.
And.
Die.
This thread should get nuked, it's nothing but a spam magnet for potheads.
Ive heard that Kractom can have some nasty side effects. I just finished a nice glass of Woodford's Reserve. Got that warm, dont give a shit feeling.
Do I have to post Vag shots to get this thread nuked?
If you don't like the thread simply don't open it. If you don't like it and believe it should be closed, you're the cunt.
No, this thread only gets brought back up by spammers hocking their CBD bullshit, this was the third or fourth time it has happened with this one thread because it hits google searches and spammers are going after their target audience. That's the issue, not the thread itself.
Having been diagnosed with PTSD and battled it for a few years I have to say that if you find something that helps, whatever that is, then do it. I have not tried weed but when I retire I will....when I don't have to pass a drug test I'll experiment with self medication. Smoked a ton of it when I was a kid musician and it never lead to harder drugs - not like alcohol where we develop a tolerance and then have to drink like a fish and destroy ourselves to get The Effect.
Living with PTSD is a day to day thing and if smoking a doober in the AM makes the rest of the day pass without screaming or crying then I say give it a go. It's just a plant - it won't make yer babies be born naked or grow hair on yer Wife's chest...it just is not all that big of a deal. If it helps PTSD then it needs to be used. If it makes it worse then stay the hell away.
VooDoo
Living with PTSD is a day to day thing and if smoking a doober in the AM makes the rest of the day pass without screaming or crying then I say give it a go. It's just a plant - it won't make yer babies be born naked or grow hair on yer Wife's chest...it just is not all that big of a deal. If it helps PTSD then it needs to be used. If it makes it worse then stay the hell away.
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