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There isn't many measurements that it fits that makes sense. 1800 m/s is 5905ft/sec which I don't think even you could get out of a 308.Hi,
Well that would depend on what unit of measurement that 1800 was utilizing......
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It was fps I didn’t mean to cause a scene lolThere isn't many measurements that it fits that makes sense. 1800 m/s is 5905ft/sec which I don't think even you could get out of a 308.
Just checked miles/hr. 2640 f/s that makes better sense.
Technically, the bullet does arc. It absolutely does not shoot straight out of the barrel. If the barrel is level, the bullet immediately starts it's downward path in an arc; simple physics. If the rifle is zeroed at 100 yards, the barrel is slanted up towards the target and the bullet travels up and then down in an arc. You need to brush up on trajectory charts.....That a bullet arcs out of the barrel rather than straight out of the barrel.
The bullet come out straight. It flies straight. It's just that gravity is a thing.Technically, the bullet does arc. It absolutely does not shoot straight out of the barrel. If the barrel is level, the bullet immediately starts it's downward path in an arc; simple physics. If the rifle is zeroed at 100 yards, the barrel is slanted up towards the target and the bullet travels up and then down in an arc. You need to brush up on trajectory charts.....
The bullet come out straight. It flies straight. It's just that gravity is a thing.
Point a loaded handgun at his face....."but the safety's on""The safety is on" every time I called out the host of our dove hunting trips for sweeping his entire group at ranges 3-10 feet.
He had a heart of gold and was related to half the farm owners in the county and was friends with the other half so there were always hunts in season. We just learned to stay behind him...![]()
If the bullet is dropping due to gravity, then by definition, it is not shooting straight; nor level. It is always traveling in an arc. The arc has a decreasing radius as the bullet velocity decreases.The bullet come out straight. It flies straight. It's just that gravity is a thing.
I think he was referring to the shitty traditional LOS/Traj picture that’s always used to show their “lines”. Also, trajectory is just a social construct.Technically, the bullet does arc. It absolutely does not shoot straight out of the barrel. If the barrel is level, the bullet immediately starts it's downward path in an arc; simple physics. If the rifle is zeroed at 100 yards, the barrel is slanted up towards the target and the bullet travels up and then down in an arc. You need to brush up on trajectory charts.....
That is one of my favorites. I've seen cops (NJ State Troopers... I know I know) who can't shoot worth shit and are borderline unsafe. Personally I'm coming up on 3 years in the Navy and haven't needed to work with firearms outside of qualifying and those quals are not particularly hard. USMC is the only branch with uniform real marksmanship standards still IMO. Nothing wrong with that inherently but the argument of if you are mil/police that you are automatically more qualified or know more about guns is completely invalid in my mind.
Only the mil/retired mil should have firearms because of their training...
My [insert relationship] knows all about guns because s/he was in the [insert military branch]...
I got a Pistol Expert medal during Plebe Summer (using a M1911, if that tells you how long ago) and for the next 9 1/2 years I spent in uniform I never touched a handgun again.That is one of my favorites. I've seen cops (NJ State Troopers... I know I know) who can't shoot worth shit and are borderline unsafe. Personally I'm coming up on 3 years in the Navy and haven't needed to work with firearms outside of qualifying and those quals are not particularly hard. USMC is the only branch with uniform real marksmanship standards still IMO. Nothing wrong with that inherently but the argument of if you are mil/police that you are automatically more qualified or know more about guns is completely invalid in my mind.
MG Darrell Williams knows all about guns. So let's see, how does an EM RSO score the MG on qualifying with the M-9?
Of course he's an expert. He always qualifies as an expert - if the RSO wants to get his next stripe.
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See how this guy holds his face? That means he knows what he’s doing.
Who is Darrel Williams?
I would like to submit these gems, and the following video for consideration.
Snipers are the BEST marksmen...
Only the mil/retired mil should have firearms because of their training...
My [insert relationship] knows all about guns because s/he was in the [insert military branch]...
I can't stand it any longer. I have to tell this story, even if my wife won't post it.I know a ton of cops who can't shoot
I would like to submit these gems, and the following video for consideration.
Snipers are the BEST marksmen...
Only the mil/retired mil should have firearms because of their training...
My [insert relationship] knows all about guns because s/he was in the [insert military branch]...
BLM- Bendy Lines MatterI think he was referring to the shitty traditional LOS/Traj picture that’s always used to show their “lines”. Also, trajectory is just a social construct.
I don't think tracer behavior is a good analogy, the weight and balance (and therefor the BC/flight characteristics) are changing in flight and well before the effect of lower velocity would change the BC.
That's a good point, and anyway, the bullet's wake is a spiral and I bet it distorts what we see of a tracer.
Maybe they were borderline unstable at the lower speed.I slowed my rounds WAY down (like 300 FPS down) to use up some shit 1lb powder container and to get some practice in (basically wasting some junk consumables I had) I noticed when someone else was shooting my rifle that the trace was wobble/spiral in flight rather compared to my hotter rounds the trace looks like a sick rooster tail
My neighbor was going on and on about 308 and how most people think it's only effective out to 800 yards for killing but they're wrong, him and his fellow marines were making kills at up to 1600 yards with it.![]()
Actually, my Weatherby Vanguard in .25-06 will put 10 shots in one hole at a 1000 (thousand) yards all day long. Of course, I am not saying how large the hole in the target is that I am shooting at."Why do you spend all that money on a so called precision rifle? My $600 hunting setup puts 5 shots at 200y all in the same hole. Your AI will never be able to do that consistently" -family member that only hunts
Just today, “My .308 is so accurate that the same shot goes through the bullseye at 50 yards and 100 yards.”
I’m not exactly sure what that means, so I just blinked and smiled at the nice guy who told me that. He looked to be having fun as he shot his Ruger American .223 from a Caldwell rest.
I wonder if that would be possible if one were to make or use 155 gr turned solids? I know that my 255 gr turned solids in .338 LM can be pushed to supersonic past 2100 yards. Done it.I was told by my FFL that with a 30" barrel a .308win. shooting 155's is supersonic at 1600 yards.
Overheard at the local cafe: "I have no problem hitting moose when they are on the run, but I struggle hitting them if they are standing still. That's why I always fire a warning shot to get them in high gear before taking one."
True enough, but using the Warner Flatline 155 gr solids with a Doppler G7 BC of .297, you only have to push them to 2950 FPS to keep them supersonic to 1400 yards.Berger ballistics says a 155 amax needs a muzzle velocity of 4500fps.![]()