I will send you a PM later after work. October is an awesome time. AZ and Vegas won't be 120 in the shade. Up north might be little cool in the morning my favorite time of the Year.I have been told that LA, Vegas and San Francisco are none negotiable. Seeing as how we would fly in to LA I am thinking LA, Vegas, side trip back to AZ, Salt Lake City, Seattle area, Portland, Sacramento / San Francisco, back to LA. Would 3 -4 weeks be too rushed to cover that area by road?