Being half Native American I choose to stay & fight these bastards until my last breath!!
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Where would you move to from a future Socialist America?
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Agreed. But Greg Abbott and the AG in Texas (can’t remember his name) seem to be as conservative as anyone. I wish Colorado was as well represented.
Well that's great to hear....hard to keep track of our national elected let alone get so granular to keep eyes on state reps. I live in CA 2.0 aka FL....we are on the slippery slope.
You cant be mad at the OP. Hes not born American with patriot blood in his veins. If I were an immigrant, I wouldnt be scared to ask his question.
For all of us red white and blue Pat's, if the thought of tucking ass and running from the inevitable fight that's coming over the horizon, ever crossed your mind, you dont deserve the freedom that you already have because a lot of our forefathers shed blood for those freedoms. The notion of giving up and running away is quite possibly the biggest bitch move one could do. You might as well leave your dick and balls at the door on your way out.
But as far as a native german that stopped through 30 years ago, it's not his burden to bare unless he was so inclined. He just capitalized on our father's blood and sweat. Who could blame him and who would expect differently?
For all of us red white and blue Pat's, if the thought of tucking ass and running from the inevitable fight that's coming over the horizon, ever crossed your mind, you dont deserve the freedom that you already have because a lot of our forefathers shed blood for those freedoms. The notion of giving up and running away is quite possibly the biggest bitch move one could do. You might as well leave your dick and balls at the door on your way out.
But as far as a native german that stopped through 30 years ago, it's not his burden to bare unless he was so inclined. He just capitalized on our father's blood and sweat. Who could blame him and who would expect differently?
I'm not going anywhere as it won't happen in my life time. They are seeing the push back in VA, so they'll slow down for a bit. They will continue to indoctrinate children in the schools until even less people own guns (Yes, I know there is a lot of guns out there. However, they're in fewer hands than before). After a few generations most people will not want guns in the society and then they will be completely banned. Right now they will go after just a few for now, but they want it all. Remember it's for the children, think of the children. BTW my AR self identifies as my child 
Yes, "Oh My" is exactly my sentiment, reading some of the more 'deplorable' comments.
Please enlighten me about the future of American patriotism if there is no plan of action against its enemy.
So, where is the thread about the plan to save this country? All I see is someone getting triggered and asking for deplatforming different viewpoints. Where have we seen that before?
Getting closer...
BINGO, we have a winner here!
The ramblings about "From my cold dead hands" and "Come get them, I am balls deep in the swamp" are not going to cut it. Dying some day on public TV as a 'domestic terrorist' is not going to stop the thugs from rounding up your brothers and more of our freedoms right now.
We need to fight back NOW and I do not mean by random shooting. We need to determine what is appropriate and effective now, tomorrow, next month, after November, when the SHTF, etc. Look at these points in time not as an "either-or" choice but as "all of the above".
It looks like I got some of the crowd here away from titty and gun porn back to "'Murika, f*ck yeah!". 105, mostly angry posts, is a start.
Now it is up to me and you to find like-minded warriors and get into action. Don't bet your freedom on some arfcom basement commandos saving the day at the eleventh hour. And do not underestimate the wickedness and tenacity of the enemy - not for one day.
So, who wants to start the "Let's Save America" thread?
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It's a little more complicated. I have stated in my first post that I will be on the side of those who are willing to fight for the freedom in this country. However, if I look at what we failed to achieve in Afghanistan, I have to conclude that there is no point in nation building for people who do not actively display the motivation and resolve for maintaining a free, civilized nation.
IF the vocal AND silent majority in this country hands the reigns to the Socialists without serious resistance, then I have to accept that. Then, and only then, will the plan B of GTFOOH come into play, as stated in my first post. There is no moral justification for deciding with force how other societies should live against their will. In order to respect a person or a country, I have to respect its decisions.
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BTW if you do move and renounce your citizenship you will have to pay for that. If you intend on keeping your citizenship you have to pay for that to in the form of income tax. They want your money anyway they can get it.
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Hi,
BS, LOL. Neither me or wife are born Americans as we both are first generation imports.
The USN birthed my citizenship because they needed something I had and I gladly accepted their offer.
My wife birthed her American citizenship through DoS with Government documents showing her last name was being hunted.
Having travelled, lived and worked all over this planet....the only way either of us are taking our last breathe outside of USA is if we die on vacation or work trip.
Sincerely,
Theis
Lol, you dont fucking count @THEIS. But like I said in my post "unless he was so inclined." You are highly inclined. If the shit went sideways and you decided to move, I'm taking you hostage and taking you to a mental hospital because you've lost your mind.
IF I had to choose, I'd say Poland or the Czech Rep.. I have one problem with the "move", my wife and I are on the .gov tit. I have 2ea. Fed. retirements and 1ea. State retirements. Wife has 1ea. of both also. Sooo...... we are living the "Socialist" life as we see it, now. Could live on Invest./savings, for 1.5-2 years, but after that, well, who knows. Like the OP, I used to live the outdoor life (dirt biked, off-roaded, shoot, hunt/fish, blah, blah), I'm 60, as yourself, no bills, except for a mortgage and everyday living/survival expenses. So sitting pretty well for two people with H.S. diplomas and some collage. We have both, worked hard and earned everything we ever got, and have no rich family, with large bank accounts, to worry about any inheritance gains.
I always thought living in Australia, would be a great place to go, but now, don't know. I guess you could put the World Map up on a wall and throw a dart and then take your chances??
I think, that the next 9 years is going to be the turning point for the U.S. of A. and if Trump d/n get another term, it will be the next 5 years ( the remainder of Trump's term + 4 years of a dim admin.).
I think a lot of people, of our generation, have had the same thought cross their mind.
Good luck figuring it all out, when you do, let me know. Mac?
I always thought living in Australia, would be a great place to go, but now, don't know. I guess you could put the World Map up on a wall and throw a dart and then take your chances??
I think, that the next 9 years is going to be the turning point for the U.S. of A. and if Trump d/n get another term, it will be the next 5 years ( the remainder of Trump's term + 4 years of a dim admin.).
I think a lot of people, of our generation, have had the same thought cross their mind.
Good luck figuring it all out, when you do, let me know. Mac?
Another ally we over look is the ghetto...its a fuckin disease and I hate it but most of the "brothas" hate cops. The ones they send for our shit will be enemies of the ghetto. That whole group of thugs may just be a great ally in that fight. Lets keep them on our side.
Lots of folks are mentioning the current temporary conditions in the former USSR satellite states.
I would lay good money that if freedom does die in America, those places will shortly be the same as the rest of Europe as far as freedom goes.
Already they don't have nearly the same 1A freedoms as we have in America and as the Swiss found out... your 2A goes bye when the EU Overlords decide to put up "inspection" roadblocks on your way home till you give in and pass "common sense gun control".
America was a total break with almost 5000 years of human history, a country actually kick started about being free and not living under the rule of someone. A lot of what the rest of the world take for granted today as far as "freedom" is actually thanks to the influence America has had on the world in the past 200 years.
Agree.
However, stating how great this country is or where you prefer to die is not going to stop the Socialist motherfuckers from destroying this country. It will take a bit more now than statements.
Totally agree with you on this.
I've done a lot of traveling throughout my Mil. career and was just giving a "Tavern/bar" opinion, like a group of dudes sitting at a strip club, taking in the sites and saying, "remember that TDY to XXX and what that place looked like and how the people treated us?", kind of a generalization. We all have done it and if you say, you haven't, I think you're lying to yourselves.
I'm a God fearing, red-blooded, American and deep down, I really don't want to live anywhere else, but here. I've taken the "Oath", four times in my life and will stand by it.
You are absolutely correct, that America is at the forefront of Freedom and what it means, to ALL of US, and do hope that other countries/nations will follow our lead and maybe, just maybe, the World will be a better place, for it. Like the old adage, "can't we all just get along?" I just try and not allow just one side of my brain to function at one time, I prefer that both sides function equally and at the same time. Mac
Little heads up for those who think that everything is going fine for US
Add to this the huge amount he is spending on his own campaign.
Add to this the huge amount he is spending on his own campaign.
You know, thats not a bad idea. Gotta be a good place with a lot of natural resources.
Hayek is a good read but if you want to know where the Dems are heading read "The Naked Communist" by W. Cleon Skousen, the same man who wrote "The Five Thousand Year Leap".
If he stopped in and got naturalized he swore an oath, and if they don't mean anything anymore then Whiskey Tango ...
Where would i move to in the future Socialist America,or the Socialist state that i'm in now. the man asked...i'd say Virginia,if they will accept me.. end of fucking story...the only thing is .my old body doesn't do well in cold weather.
Not any Native American in me but I ain't leaving ( But you might see me on "Alaskan Bush People). My family are immigrants as in my mothers side got here at an unknown date but the first recorded family member died in in King and Queen County, Virginia in 1741 and my fathers side soon after aka the late 1700's in Pennsylvania. I'll stand with you!
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If they are able to take firearms away from Americans in the future and turn this into a total shit show my kids are able to have citizenship in their mothers native country. The problem with the progressive socialist here in the US is they want to out do everyone else in the world to be more socialist. It may work in smaller countries with an identity like Sweden or Germany before the migration, but there seeing problems now that they have invited other cultures to mix.
Socialism never works! It is always just the period of sliding into full blown communism. Chavez and Maduro called themselves socialists too. Socialism is just the name for the period during which they don't have total control yet, once they have it they drop that label and zip, boom, bang, voila another communist dictatorship. It is a mental disorder that seeks complete control over all aspects of others lives and if it cannot control them it seeks to destroy them a la Hitler, Mussolini, Hirohito, Stalin, Krushchev, Castro, Ulbricht, Honecker, Ceaucescu, Ho Chi Minh, Mao, Pol Pot, Ortega, Brezhnev, Andropov... you get the point.
This.
I'd rather die trying.
There is no greater country on this Earth and I will die to save what my forefathers put into motion.
I'll check it out thanks always up for a new book burn em up quick lately
I'm NOT leaving. My family immigrated from Sweden in the early 1800's and we still own that land. The Viking blood in my veins longs to be free. Nothing else will suffice. So, come find me in the desert, communist pricks. You will rue the day. I will leave the rest to one of the best orators in our Republic's history. Fitting for today in America....
"Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done, to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne.
An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!
They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations; and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave........
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
-Patrick Henry
St. John's Church, Richmond, Virginia
March 23, 1775.
"Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done, to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne.
An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!
They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations; and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave........
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
-Patrick Henry
St. John's Church, Richmond, Virginia
March 23, 1775.
And to be clear, I will be voting in November. And I will be talking with neighbors, students, and colleagues to get them to vote. Then we will go from there.
My country. MINE.
Not turning shit in, not "selling back" anything. Not adhering to anymore unconstitutional laws and I refuse to go to their courts or prisons over it. Too vested in my country and my community and Constitution to do so. I have ancestors that died making this place what it is and I'll die if I have to trying to preserve that. I took an oath, I pay taxes, I own property and I vote.
"Thousands of regulations destroy respect for the law" --Winston Churchill.
Gotta say Winston, sure are feeling 'ya now brother.
Remember too that people using positions in our government do NOT constitute our government. Ie, we don't have to throw out the baby with the bathwater, we can get rid of every single politician today, peacefully or by force, and not violate our constitutional agreement in any way. In fact, it says in black and white that forced, armed removal of members of government is NOT treason --it's more treasonous to allow it to go on.
Maybe it's time to form an opposition government. Using the same BOR and constitutional processes the current one is falling to do. We DO have this well within our rights. They're putting us in a position where we have no other recourse but to do so. I bet if we did that and started paying taxes to that one instead it'd get their goddamn attention for once. Either way we're gonna have to unplug this shit sooner or later because it's just gotten too far out of hand. And the gun shit is only part of it.
Not turning shit in, not "selling back" anything. Not adhering to anymore unconstitutional laws and I refuse to go to their courts or prisons over it. Too vested in my country and my community and Constitution to do so. I have ancestors that died making this place what it is and I'll die if I have to trying to preserve that. I took an oath, I pay taxes, I own property and I vote.
"Thousands of regulations destroy respect for the law" --Winston Churchill.
Gotta say Winston, sure are feeling 'ya now brother.
Remember too that people using positions in our government do NOT constitute our government. Ie, we don't have to throw out the baby with the bathwater, we can get rid of every single politician today, peacefully or by force, and not violate our constitutional agreement in any way. In fact, it says in black and white that forced, armed removal of members of government is NOT treason --it's more treasonous to allow it to go on.
Maybe it's time to form an opposition government. Using the same BOR and constitutional processes the current one is falling to do. We DO have this well within our rights. They're putting us in a position where we have no other recourse but to do so. I bet if we did that and started paying taxes to that one instead it'd get their goddamn attention for once. Either way we're gonna have to unplug this shit sooner or later because it's just gotten too far out of hand. And the gun shit is only part of it.
US gov has no issues with overthrowing foreign countries leaders. Doesn't mean they'd allow you or me to get in on the fun.
18 U.S. Code § 960. Expedition against friendly nation
Whoever, within the United States, knowingly begins or sets on foot or provides or prepares a means for or furnishes the money for, or takes part in, any military or naval expedition or enterprise to be carried on from thence against the territory or dominion of any foreign prince or state, or of any colony, district, or people with whom the United States is at peace, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
Laws that don't apply to everyone, apply to no one,...
If you did what George Soros, the Clintons, John Kerry, Eric Holder, Adam Schif, Joe Biden, or Comey did, wanna bet how fast you'd be in jail?
I'm not near enough of a scum bag to join that crowd but remember,... before it's over, every dog has his day. Those days getting closer every day for that group of trash.
ah- the William Walker law. One of our most colorful characters. He had a helluva run taking down countries.
I hope everyone is doing their partI'm not going anywhere as it won't happen in my life time. They are seeing the push back in VA, so they'll slow down for a bit. They will continue to indoctrinate children in the schools until even less people own guns (Yes, I know there is a lot of guns out there. However, they're in fewer hands than before). After a few generations most people will not want guns in the society and then they will be completely banned. Right now they will go after just a few for now, but they want it all. Remember it's for the children, think of the children. BTW my AR self identifies as my child
Bringing non shooters to the range and making Jtnk enjoyable.
Giving ar15s away
Etc
3 retirements are part of the reason the us taxpayer is taxed to death with no end in sight
The servant has become the master
