Be safe, I think there’s a large chance of there being several million boating accidents if Biden is, in fact, the winner
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Who Else is Going On A Fishing Trip Soon?
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my boat is looking particularly rickety.....hope I don't accidently overload it...
Ha. Boating is indeed dangerous activity when you overload a boat. I’m gonna save my money fixing up the boat and invest it in Gun/Suppressor Advocacy Groups.
Funny thing. We’re hoping to get in one last run before the weather turns. Pray that we don’t hit any rough water
Republican Senate, Conservative SCOTUS, and Pelosi barely still clinging to the speaker's gavel? No new gun control is getting passed & in fact SCOTUS may liberate several states from current restrictions. We barely lost the battle. The war continues.
My plan is to wait for the mad rush of people wanting to buy and then go sell all my stuff at the local gun store.
All of the sudden today, there were no more MSRs on the racks despite having had at least some in the sub 1k range on the rack at all times this year....
All of the sudden today, there were no more MSRs on the racks despite having had at least some in the sub 1k range on the rack at all times this year....
SCOTUS has nothing to do with my poor boating record...
I like to compete and shoot at public events. I’m not running and I’m not hiding. I’m gonna fight with my dollars. Midterms are around the corner.
It is not the firearms that I'm worried about. It is the availability of ammo.
Is anyone here familiar with the AIM bill? This is being proposed to modernize the ATF. Here is the background:
Background
The ATF Improvement and Modernization Act would:
Make it easier for the ATF to work with other agencies to address violent crime
Allow the ATF to crack down on “bad apple” dealers
Background
The ATF Improvement and Modernization Act would:
Make it easier for the ATF to work with other agencies to address violent crime
- Allow the ATF to maintain a national centralized firearm database so they can return trace data to law enforcement more quickly. A centralized database would also allow law enforcement to detect patterns that indicate gun trafficking. The National Tracing Center maintains its records on paper and microfiche, which means a single trace request could take a week or longer, stalling criminal investigations.
- Allow the ATF to search computerized records they receive from dealers – the ATF currently must remove the search function from records they receive in a searchable format.
- Allow NICS to hold on to background check information for more than 24-hours. A GAO report found that next day destruction virtually eliminates the FBI’s ability to initiate firearms retrieval actions when it learns, after-the-fact, that a transfer should not have been allowed.
- Allow the ATF to transfer agency functions to another agency to improve coordination or receive help from agencies like the FBI.
Allow the ATF to crack down on “bad apple” dealers
- Allow the ATF to conduct multiple inspectors of a dealer in a year. Currently, they cannot do so, even if they suspect the dealer of trafficking crime guns. No other federal agency is subject to this prohibition.
- Allow the ATF to require gun dealers to inspect their inventories before an inspection and submit those firearm inventories. This would ensure that dealers report stolen or lost guns to the ATF and make it easier to track them should they be used in crimes. Currently, dealers do not have to maintain inventories, so bad apple dealers can sell guns off the books without a background check or records and, if it is used in a crime, tell ATF the gun was stolen.
- Lower the standard of proof for revoking a seller’s license from “willfully” breaking the law to “knowingly” doing so.
- Eliminate the “de nova” review of appeals, which weakens the ATF’s ability to revoke licenses from bad apple dealers and defend those decisions in court.
- Allow the ATF to deny a firearm license for lack of business, which will help ensure that the ATF doesn’t waste time inspecting dealers that aren’t selling to the public. Dealers with a federal firearms license can also avoid certain state laws or ship guns across state lines without a background check, treatment that should not be permitted if they are not engaged in legal gun sales to the public.
- Allow the ATF to define a curio or relic to ensure that more advanced weaponry is not included due to an outdated definition.
- Allow the ATF to prevent imports of non-sporting use shotguns
- Allow the ATF to make trace data available to the public so universities and public research groups can study the flow of recovered crime guns and increase accountability among bad apple dealers who violate gun laws.
- Allow ATF to process Freedom of Information Act requests for data on gun traces, arson, or explosive incidents. The ATF is the only federal law enforcement agency prohibited from responding to FOIA requests. Law enforcement sensitive and private information can be protected through the existing FOIA statute.
What good are they if you have to claim the whole bullshit boating accident thing that people keep repeating and overusing to the point of absurdity?
Someone gets it
She said she doesn't like weirdos on the internet talking about her.
I'm in NY were we have the SAFE act. Dont mean to be a Debbie downer, because I hope you are right...but this state is for the birds now. Ive never seen a governemnt take somones rights away, and willingly give them back. Bit like i said, I truely hope you are right.
If the GOP keeps the Senate, they will not let so much as a fart pass through the chamber without a Congressional hearing. I think in 2022, they will also lose the thier majority in Congress.
Eventually we are going to lose because our side as hell bent to fight fair against an enemy who constantly fights dirty. If you're planning to hide them you're better off to sell them at peak value before the infringements on our 2nd amendment privilege is increased and invest that money into something, or buy yourself some good private security.
The leadership on the Right has got to be the dumbest motherfuckers on earth.
All they had to do was/is offer to give a free AR15 + 1000 rds to every legal American if they are elected!
Landslide! EVERYONE WANTS FREE STUFF!
I'd do my damnedest to vote multiple times!
All they had to do was/is offer to give a free AR15 + 1000 rds to every legal American if they are elected!
Landslide! EVERYONE WANTS FREE STUFF!
I'd do my damnedest to vote multiple times!
House will flip Republican in 2022. Senate will stay Republican & we likely pick up a seat or 2. Then in 2024, Trump pulls a Grover Cleveland or Tucker runs (or Don Jr or Pence) & we get back to business.
The last thing I would ever want is a computerized data base. The Gov. can't keep even simple private data out of the hands of hackers.
I hope you're right. Those runoff elections for Senate are pretty tight. I wouldn't mind don Jr and pence. I doubt tucker would ever run, but he would instantly have my vote lol.
When you think is time to bury your guns, it is really time to dig them up.
As the law currently stands, unless you are an FFL there is no requirements to maintain records of sales or trades under federal law, state law may differ. If what is feared comes to pass, having posted about boating accidents on a public thread would surely be used as evidence if you claimed that as an explanation. More than likely, due to the massive amount of work that would be involved, no one would be tracking down individuals to asked. Rather, it would be a crime if you where caught with it (a disgruntled neighbor reported you). Much like with Trump's bump stock ban.
The implementation of a computerized database and eliminating private transfers would change that, which is why any efforts to do so should be opposed.
The implementation of a computerized database and eliminating private transfers would change that, which is why any efforts to do so should be opposed.
Seriously though ... I'm doing three things I think "might" help:
(1) Like everyone else, stock up on favorite calibers of ammunition
(2) SBR all of my pistol-brace guns
(3) Take "Proof-Of-Ownership-Date" photos with all semi-auto pistols and rifles assuming some type of "grandfathering"
On #3 ... best way is a photo of the SN resting on a local newspaper with the publication date clearly visible.
Might help, might not, but can't hurt.
I worry a lot more about new state laws, than I do anything the Senate and/or SCOTUS can or might do.
(1) Like everyone else, stock up on favorite calibers of ammunition
(2) SBR all of my pistol-brace guns
(3) Take "Proof-Of-Ownership-Date" photos with all semi-auto pistols and rifles assuming some type of "grandfathering"
On #3 ... best way is a photo of the SN resting on a local newspaper with the publication date clearly visible.
Might help, might not, but can't hurt.
I worry a lot more about new state laws, than I do anything the Senate and/or SCOTUS can or might do.
I always think the boat story is funny, if you really think if the ATF is going to come for your guns, they already have all the sales records they need at FFL's to start with, and all those gun insurance rider policies, and if it gets that bad DNC appointed judges will certainly approve search warrants for your homes, vehicles, and businesses. You simply claiming you sold your guns isn't going to stop them from searching. Not to mention do you really think the ATF isn't wise to the boating accident stories they are going to get.
I doubt we'll ever see a mass turn in/buyout mandated, most likely they will simply offer a buyout for those that want (I actually would love one, they did one in Maine I think it was an paid $50 per hi-cap mag, I'd take a couple pallets of $8 Okay mags in for that deal!) More likely if they got something evil passed it will ban sales of "bad" guns, require registration of "bad" guns in current use and those guns will become NFA items, unable to be easily sold if sold at all etc. Ranges will enforce it just like many do with checking paperwork on suppressors and SBR's because they don't want to be shut down for not being in compliance.
I doubt we'll ever see a mass turn in/buyout mandated, most likely they will simply offer a buyout for those that want (I actually would love one, they did one in Maine I think it was an paid $50 per hi-cap mag, I'd take a couple pallets of $8 Okay mags in for that deal!) More likely if they got something evil passed it will ban sales of "bad" guns, require registration of "bad" guns in current use and those guns will become NFA items, unable to be easily sold if sold at all etc. Ranges will enforce it just like many do with checking paperwork on suppressors and SBR's because they don't want to be shut down for not being in compliance.
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nope...because im not a bitch...my guns stay in my home....and my guns are going to stay there.
anyone coming to steal them better be prepared for the consequences of their actions.
anyone coming to steal them better be prepared for the consequences of their actions.
Metadata on a digital picture will be better proof of ownership than the news paper in the in the picture. A news paper shows that something was not missing before the date of publication, but as someone can save a news paper, or order a reprint, it does not prove much regarding after the date of publication. If you want extra proof of the date a picture was taken, just email it to yourself.
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