Why the disrespect for Vets with disability?

[TurboTrout]

We only reduced the asshole population in those countries, if their borders weren't so porous we could have reduced it to the levels needed to provide them with a good/better start and/or if the ROE was better. Some of those "random people" indiscriminately killed and/orchestrated the killings of a lot of innocent civilians. As an example 04 May 2006 on a patrol a suicide bomber decided to blow himself up in Rusafa, Baghdad just above Palestine Street near a local court house in a market that sells children's clothing and toys, the handler and bomb makers is someone we wanted to catch. 18 killed at the scene, over 30 seriously wounded (no telling how many died later), I was just down the street on a patrol when it happened and we assisted with as much as we could. The people that orchestrated that are the assholes I am talking about. Just like the assholes that we caught that were indiscriminately shooting Sunni civilians and the ones that were indiscriminately shooting Shiite civilians that we placed our vehicles in between them and the fire(Baghdad was a huge city, we couldn't pinpoint where we were taking fire from, but we could tell what side it was coming from) so we could safely evacuate them off the elevated highway to safety. Or the assholes that tortured civilians and/or delivered parts of a family member to the Iraqi Army Colonel that I worked with. Just providing a little bit of perspective.

What do you know about killing anyways besides reading about it in a book or from some movie? Each person reacts to killing in their own unique way.

Some people were meant/born for the fight. Some might say it is a test of wills and skill. Either way, it is fun till it isn't, it is chaotic, it is what separates the warriors from those that aren't. I've seen guys freeze in a fight, I've seen guys refuse to get up on the gun in a fight and I have seen guys put it all on the line, I have seen guys do some wild stuff.

I have always said that you see the best and the worst in people in a combat zone/war.

Anyways, just my .02

If you enjoy killing people/things, you need to get some help, just like the kid who enjoyed killing a cat.

New video shows Texas school shooter Salvador Ramos holding bag of dead cats

The deranged 18-year-old gunman is seen smiling in the undated footage while sitting in the passenger seat of a pal’s car.

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I hunt, I like being outdoors, I like good meat that’s not processed and drugged to shit, I like rifles and bows, but I don’t get a thrill about killing the game, maybe that’s just me.

Same with your bomber, he should have been killed, I agree, but it’s not a fun thing, at least for mentally stable people, but it’s a thing that needs to be done.


There was a documentary not too long ago, followed some troops in afghan, there was some old afghan guy with a milk cow, well the troops one night see the cow and shoot it, they had that “fighter instinct”, later on they found out that old guy decided to take money from who ever to ether give intel or set a bomb to kill troops (I forget which), to which I shrugged, yeah if some foreign troops were in my town, shot my business and how I provide for me and mine, someone offered me money that I now really need to hurt them

What would be best is if we just stayed the fuck out of that part of the world. History has many lessons of great empires who went to go put their dick in the crazy that’s know as the Middle East.

 

[stefan73]

If you enjoy killing people/things, you need to get some help, just like the kid who enjoyed killing a cat.


There was a documentary not too long ago, followed some troops in afghan, there was some old afghan guy with a milk cow, well the troops one night see the cow and shoot it, they had that “fighter instinct”, later on they found out that old guy decided to take money from who ever to ether give intel or set a bomb to kill troops (I forget which), to which I shrugged, yeah if some foreign troops were in my town, shot my business and how I provide for me and mine, someone offered me money that I now really need to hurt them

What would be best is if we just stayed the fuck out of that part of the world. History has many lessons of great empires who went to go put their dick in the crazy that’s know as the Middle East.

1. Stuff like that didn't fly with me. There is a difference between being a professional and an undisciplined fuck stick, if I did that intentionally I would deserve whatever happened to me.

2. You are adding your perception to what occurred "fighter instinct". I feel like you are projecting your own issues relative to killing?

There is a difference between removing the asshole population and indiscriminate killing. I hold no issues with the appropriate use of deadly force? Do you?


The middle east was/is crazy, there are a lot of good people there. I was able to help assist bringing a lot of good people from there to the US and we are better for it. I would like to go back to Iraq and visit it someday. Go see An Najaf and Baghdad. I have some people I would like to visit in both places. Maybe one day, we'll see. Afghanistan on the other hand I really didn't care for. Only place in Afghanistan I wouldn't mind seeing again is Baylough, there are two people I wouldn't mind seeing from Afghanistan but I am sure they are either dead or fighting with the northern alliance. Baylough was a nice area (scenic wise), outside of the IED's, mortar fire, recoilless fire, small arms, you know, normal Afghanistan stuff but it was a nice mountain area.

 

[TurboTrout]

1. Stuff like that didn't fly with me. There is a difference between being a professional and an undisciplined fuck stick, if I did that intentionally I would deserve whatever happened to me.

2. You are adding your perception to what occurred "fighter instinct". I feel like you are projecting your own issues relative to killing?

There is a difference between removing the asshole population and indiscriminate killing. I hold no issues with the appropriate use of deadly force? Do you?


The middle east was/is crazy, there are a lot of good people there. I was able to help assist bringing a lot of good people from there to the US and we are better for it. I would like to go back to Iraq and visit it someday. Go see An Najaf and Baghdad. I have some people I would like to visit in both places. Maybe one day, we'll see. Afghanistan on the other hand I really didn't care for. Only place in Afghanistan I wouldn't mind seeing again is Baylough, there are two people I wouldn't mind seeing from Afghanistan but I am sure they are either dead or fighting with the northern alliance. Baylough was a nice area (scenic wise), outside of the IED's, mortar fire, recoilless fire, small arms, you know, normal Afghanistan stuff but it was a nice mountain area.

Some folks need killing, I’m completely fine with that.

Funny thing with Afghanistan, man, it does appear to be a beautiful place, shame the hands it ended up in.

All that being said, as a kid who watched red dawn,if a bunch of foreign troops were in my town, telling me and mine what to do, pointing guns, etc, I’d have no issue with them meeting their end.

 

[roostercogburn98]

Some folks need killing, I’m completely fine with that.

Funny thing with Afghanistan, man, it does appear to be a beautiful place, shame the hands it ended up in.

So you know what province that lake is in? Have you heard of the shit that came from that place. Purdy looking, maybe. Shithole, most definitely

 

[TurboTrout]

So you know what province that lake is in? Have you heard of the shit that came from that place. Purdy looking, maybe. Shithole, most definitely

That’s what I’m saying, pretty country, the people no so much.

 

[roostercogburn98]

That’s what I’m saying, pretty country, the people no so much.

That lake is seasonal. Not always there

 

[TurboTrout]

That lake is seasonal. Not always there

No shit? Interesting, seems like a big lake


Now the issue I have with bringing the collaborators back to the US, they betrayed their own countrymen to a foreign power for a check, so we bring our “friends” back to the US, what happens when another country offers them a bigger check and a better relocation deal to betray the US? Or is that different?

There’s lots I don’t like about the US, thankfully most isn’t that bad, so I deal with it, the bad shit I try to change it, etc, but what I WOULDNT do is sell out to some “grass is greener” far off land.

 

[wade2big]

This is why no one takes anything you say seriously.

The military in this country is subordinate to civilian authority. It can't just go to the border and kill anyone coming in without being ordered to do so.

Even if there is 100% solid proof that Biden's "win" was a fraud, the military can't just throw his ass out. Point to one single place in the Constitution or US Code that authorizes the military to take action against civilian leadership based on the claims of howler monkeys like you. Go ahead, take all the time in the world.

The election has absolutely nothing to do with the constitutionality of the executive branch. To associate the two is one of the most moronic things I have heard in a long time, displaying an extreme level of ignorance of law, logic, and jurisprudence as well as an infantile ability to reason.

And if these things piss you off so fucking much, why don't you grow a fucking pair and get after it yourself? Tim McVeigh had almost exactly the same grievances as you do. But I have to have some level of respect for the guy because he acted and paid the price.

But you won't do such a thing. You'll do nothing except sit here and screech at others to do something about the "unconstitutional" federal government from behind your fucking screen. @DeathBeforeDismount pegged you right: you're a bitch

The little snippet you quoted of mine was in direct response to the protecting the country from enemies foreign and domestic comment made by another man. This is the most ironic and false statement a military man can make. It’s a lie and I called it out and explained why. I do agree with you that a soldier won’t do anything until he is ordered and once ordered he will do anything. History proves it.

You act like I’ve been mother fucking soldiers over my last few posts. I have not yet I have been motherfucked and lied to by them. All I’ve done is pointed out easily observable points. Even if I were motherfucking them, they are government that I am forced to pay for. Taxpayers have every right to bitch. Why a military is necessary to defense, what ours is used for is wasteful expense and wasteful to the lives that may be going in thinking its something its not.

Having an unelected fraudulent elections resulting in an illegal president and congress not elected by the people somehow doesn’t contradict the constitution? Explain that one to me. If thats the case, that document is more even more flawed than I realized.

Edit to add:
You sure put a lot of words in my mouth with that post. Trying to persuade me to blow up buildings is a bit over the top and unnecessary. If you don’t like what I say, use your big boy words and and debate me if you’re capable. It’s called a discussion. I suggested this once already. Try it.

 

[roostercogburn98]

No shit? Interesting, seems like a big lake

Lake Hamun Helmand on the Afghan Iran border. Only fills up when mountain snows start to melt

 

[stefan73]

No shit? Interesting, seems like a big lake


Now the issue I have with bringing the collaborators back to the US, they betrayed their own countrymen to a foreign power for a check, so we bring our “friends” back to the US, what happens when another country offers them a bigger check and a better relocation deal to betray the US? Or is that different?

There’s lots I don’t like about the US, thankfully most isn’t that bad, so I deal with it, the bad shit I try to change it, etc, but what I WOULDNT do is sell out to some “grass is greener” far off land.

Now you are reaching. Most of the guys I worked with saw the potential to move from a repressive government to something more modern where they had some semblance of rule of law, equality and a bit more peace. Taliban really didn't afford that in Afghanistan and neither did Saddam and his sons in Iraq. Most of those guys risked their lives and their families lives just trying to make their country a better place (like anything you get some shit bags). So, were they betraying their country or trying to better it?

Of course the other side probably believes the same about their guys, one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.

 

[TurboTrout]

Now you are reaching. Most of the guys I worked with saw the potential to move from a repressive government to something more modern where they had some semblance of rule of law, equality and a bit more peace. Taliban really didn't afford that in Afghanistan and neither did Saddam and his sons in Iraq. Most of those guys risked their lives and their families lives just trying to make their country a better place (like anything you get some shit bags). So, were they betraying their country or trying to better it?

Of course the other side probably believes the same about their guys, one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.

I’m sure china would sell the same line to them too, point being people who betray their own countrymen are not people I’d want as countrymen, we have 330M people in this nation, we don’t need more, especially collaborators. If they were fighting inside their own country to make changes ok, but when they are fighting on behalf of a invading foreign country, I just don’t see them as someone who takes allegiance to their country, but now that their country is the US that’s all better now? Nah

It’s just not worth the risk, shy of one of them having the cure to cancer or how to make free unlimited energy or fucking warp drive or something.

I get is bringing the nazis over who had all the jet and rocket tech, but someone’s who’s greatest strength is being a fucking snitch, we have plenty of those already sadly.

 

[roostercogburn98]

we don’t need more, especially collaborators

Guess your roots go all the way back to the native tribes with a statement like that

 

[TurboTrout]

Guess your roots go all the way back to the native tribes with a statement like that

They go to the beginnings

I would thank them for their snitching, give them some parting cash, and wish them luck.

But I would NEVER trust a snitch, and sure as fuck not invite them to live with me.

If they turned on their country of birth for some cash and the promise of Disneyland, you think they wouldn’t turn on the US if someone offered more??? Really???

 

[roostercogburn98]

They go to the beginnings

So you probably enjoy your tribal heritage perks from time to time

 

[TurboTrout]

So you probably enjoy your tribal heritage perks from time to time

I’m not native, and they were stupid for trusting the white man. My roots don’t go back to the natives or those who conquered them. My peeps didn’t get here way back when from being a fucking snitch however.

 

[roostercogburn98]

I’m not native, and they were stupid for trusting the white man. My roots don’t go back to the natives or those who conquered them.

So one would say your a collaborator of sorts. Your family betrayed your country of origin and left it for something better.

 

[TurboTrout]

So one would say your a collaborator of sorts. Your family betrayed your country of origin and left it for something better.

Uhh, definitions matter, no

My family left, but they didn’t betray anyone, just left. They didn’t sell out strategic information on their countrymen to come here, actually think some of them had dual citizenship, but I’m not 100%

 

[hlee]

It is a mistake to think of Afghans as belonging to a nation. My understanding is that is a construct without meaning (for the most part) over there.

 

[roostercogburn98]

Uhh, definitions matter, no

My family left, but they didn’t betray anyone, just left. They didn’t sell out strategic information on their countrymen to come here, actually think some of them had dual citizenship, but I’m not 100%

Where did they come from

 

[EddieNFL]

Where did they come from

Lower Slobbovia

 

[roostercogburn98]

actually think some of them had dual citizenship

Dual citizenship in the US wasn’t allowed until 1967. Late arrivals to the party I suppose

 

[308pirate]

The little snippet you quoted of mine was in direct response to the protecting the country from enemies foreign and domestic comment made by another man. This is the most ironic and false statement a military man can make. It’s a lie and I called it out and explained why. I do agree with you that a soldier won’t do anything until he is ordered and once ordered he will do anything. History proves it.

You act like I’ve been mother fucking soldiers over my last few posts. I have not yet I have been motherfucked and lied to by them. All I’ve done is pointed out easily observable points. Even if I were motherfucking them, they are government that I am forced to pay for. Taxpayers have every right to bitch. Why a military is necessary to defense, what ours is used for is wasteful expense and wasteful to the lives that may be going in thinking its something its not.

Having an unelected fraudulent elections resulting in an illegal president and congress not elected by the people somehow doesn’t contradict the constitution? Explain that one to me. If thats the case, that document is more even more flawed than I realized.

Edit to add:
You sure put a lot of words in my mouth with that post. Trying to persuade me to blow up buildings is a bit over the top and unnecessary. If you don’t like what I say, use your big boy words and and debate me if you’re capable. It’s called a discussion. I suggested this once already. Try it.

Now you back pedal...............

I have zero respect for you or anyone who thinks like you. Why on earth would you think I would want to debate any of your idiotic beliefs that aren't rooted in reality?

 

[TurboTrout]

Where did they come from

Scotland

 

[roostercogburn98]

Scotland

And when

 

[TurboTrout]

And when

Few generations back, not sure the exact date

 

[roostercogburn98]

Scotland

At any rate. Since you are not 100% on your lineage. I’d brush up on some Scottish history and migration reasoning. Many were in fact supporters of the crown and moved to America to settle it for the crown.

Many are criminals and heathens that were sent here for criminal reasons.

Your family may very well be traitors that left their countrymen in the middle of a war for the lands and ways of life. More than likely if they left in that time period, they sold out fellow Scotts in trade for passage to Englands new land.

 

[TurboTrout]

At any rate. Since you are not 100% on your lineage. I’d brush up on some Scottish history and migration reasoning. Many were in fact supporters of the crown and moved to America to settle it for the crown.

Many are criminals and heathens that were sent here for criminal reasons.

Your family may very well be traitors that left their countrymen in the middle of a war for the lands and ways of life. More than likely if they left in that time period, they sold out fellow Scotts in trade for passage to Englands new land.

Pretty sure time wise,and family name wise, it wasn’t in that realm.

Maybe a few heathens though

 

[wade2big]

Now you back pedal...............

I have zero respect for you or anyone who thinks like you. Why on earth would you think I would want to debate any of your idiotic beliefs that aren't rooted in reality?

Quoting me again and again then going on a personal tirade is comical. Starting threads about me is pathetic. All you have to do is scroll by.l and if that’s too much, put me on ignore.

 

[308pirate]

put me on ignore.

Yep that's what I end up doing with whiny bitches

 

[wade2big]

Yep that's what I end up doing with whiny bitches

Testing. Testing. Am I on ignore yet? Testing.....

 

[TurboTrout]

Yep that's what I end up doing with whiny bitches

How is that different than the left getting “triggered”?


I always thought the ignore feature on these types of sites was just for fragile people, I mean not being able to even handle scrolling past a opposing view point

 

[Darayavaus]

Some folks need killing, I’m completely fine with that.

Funny thing with Afghanistan, man, it does appear to be a beautiful place, shame the hands it ended up in.

All that being said, as a kid who watched red dawn,if a bunch of foreign troops were in my town, telling me and mine what to do, pointing guns, etc, I’d have no issue with them meeting their end.

the people who live in much of Afghanistan were there 2000 years before Alexander the Great. They were no better or worse than anyone else around them.

it isn't that group of people who caused any problem. The problem was the little book with scribbly lines that they were forced to bow down to, starting around AD 650.

 

[TurboTrout]

the people who live in much of Afghanistan were there 2000 years before Alexander the Great. They were no better or worse than anyone else around them.

it isn't that group of people who caused any problem. The problem was the little book with scribbly lines that they were forced to bow down to, starting around AD 650.

We’ll that’s all religion, funny thing is for whatever reason there never was a update to their creation mythos, where as the Christian flavors are on like ver 4

 

[Darayavaus]

We’ll that’s all religion, funny thing is for whatever reason there never was a update to their creation mythos, where as the Christian flavors are on like ver 4

not really. There has never been an update to "in the beginning". And the little scribbly book was invented by Mohammed the pedophile, several thousand years after the original book (scrolls) which said plainly that God's covenant would go through Isaac and the Jews, and then on to the Christians. But it specifically would not go through Ismael the father of the Arabs.

Interesting how someone can think up a question to argue about, several thousand years after a preemptive answer was clearly given.

 

[Darayavaus]

Scotland

the original Scots aren't even from Scotland. They were q-celtic tribes who came from Ireland and raided Caledonia/Pictland after the fall of the Roman empire. They were invaders.

 

[TurboTrout]

the original Scots aren't even from Scotland. They were q-celtic tribes who came from Ireland and raided Caledonia/Pictland after the fall of the Roman empire. They were invaders.

It’s nice to win

 

[TurboTrout]

not really. There has never been an update to "in the beginning". And the little scribbly book was invented by Mohammed the pedophile, several thousand years after the original book (scrolls) which said plainly that God's covenant would go through Isaac and the Jews, and then on to the Christians. But it specifically would not go through Ismael the father of the Arabs.

Interesting how someone can think up a question to argue about, several thousand years after a preemptive answer was clearly given.

Anyone who follows religion is kinda dumb anyways

 

[Darayavaus]

So you know what province that lake is in? Have you heard of the shit that came from that place. Purdy looking, maybe. Shithole, most definitely

this cant be real.

 

[TurboTrout]

this cant be real.

Ha! I remember seeing a story on that, had a bunch of those guys but one was trying to look super hard while riding a giant duck or flamingo

 

[Steve_In_29]

Why would a MIL disability prevent you from being a Garbage Man?

Not a garbage man. I figured it out...he is Gecko45 posting under an alias.

Mall cop...most dangerous job in America.

 

[TurboTrout]

Not a garbage man. I figured it out...he is Gecko45 posting under an alias.

Mall cop...most dangerous job in America.

A swing and a miss

But someone who thought being in or from 29 was something to brag about, maybe I set the bar a little high in my expectations

 

[Steve_In_29]

Lower Slobbovia

Turbo Trouts family were big wigs in the mud export business back there.

 

[FWoo45]

Anyone who follows religion is kinda dumb anyways

I actually find religions and their origins fascinating. Not arguing that most of the current ones have been perverted by their respective pushers over the years. I mean scientology is a thing and my phone just tried to capitalize it. This is coming from a twice a year Catholic (phone didn’t try to capitalize that, go figure).

 

[TurboTrout]

I actually find religions and their origins fascinating. Not arguing that most of the current ones have been perverted by their respective pushers over the years. I mean scientology is a thing and my phone just tried to capitalize it. This is coming from a twice a year Catholic (phone didn’t try to capitalize that, go figure).

Agree with ya there, the creation stories are interesting, but for a thinker these days, not useful for much more than anthropology and understanding dumb people who follow them.

If I was going to work in the Middle East I’d for sure read the quran cover to cover to understand those inbreads a little better

 

[TurboTrout]

Turbo Trouts family were big wigs in the mud export business back there.

With that sharp wit, you must have been one of the smartest idiots in 29!

Let’s all stand back and admire the thought that went into that half baked insult.

 

[FWoo45]

Agree with ya there, the creation stories are interesting, but for a thinker these days, not useful for much more than anthropology and understanding dumb people who follow them.

If I was going to work in the Middle East I’d for sure read the quran cover to cover to understand those inbreads a little better

It wouldn’t help much, some people don’t want to advance.

As far as the OP, our gov is fucking over some phenomenal people that they promised to not only to not fuck but actually help. They’re too busy chopping dicks off on our dime for the weirdos, apparently. I wish I could dictate where my tax dollars went. I’d be a lot less angry about that theft if I got to choose to fund home loans or healthcare for combat vets vs the gov getting to fuck it off.

 

[TurboTrout]

It wouldn’t help much, some people don’t want to advance.

As far as the OP, our gov is fucking over some phenomenal people that they promised to not only to not fuck but actually help. They’re too busy chopping dicks off on our dime for the weirdos, apparently. I wish I could dictate where my tax dollars went. I’d be a lot less angry about that theft if I got to choose to fund home loans or healthcare for combat vets vs the gov getting to fuck it off.

It’s hard to feel bad for those who thought the gov was going to be their salvation. Like they consistently fuck everyone over, but this time it’ll be different? Like the big guy says c’mon man!

Kissinger said it best, America doesn’t have friends it only has interests.

 

[FWoo45]

It’s hard to feel bad for those who thought the gov was going to be their salvation. Like they consistently fuck everyone over, but this time it’ll be different? Like the big guy says c’mon man!

Kissinger said it best, America doesn’t have friends it only has interests.

No argument there. I think we’re on the same page, maybe not the same paragraph but damn close.

 

[lonegunman762x51]

Opsec, didn’t big gov teach you that after they taught you how to wash your skivvies

I'll take, "completely Full of Shit for $2,000, Alex."


So you are a School Crossing guard, Day laborer, roofer or Garbage man? We sure as hell know you are to stupid to fly a plane.


One of your "hero" pictures is a fucking cop and has jack shit to do with the military. Again, you are wandering off topic. Garbagemen have been know to have a hard time staying on subject.

For all you cunts bitching about how the government let you down, start fucking voting. Instead of spending your money on shit you do not need work for a political campaign during the season. The military is under control of assholes you elect. When you and your cunt friends and neighbors allow epic levels of voter fucking fraud you get the fucked up country we have now.

Cops do not protect you either and you still suck their dicks every other post.

 

[TurboTrout]

I'll take, "completely Full of Shit for $2,000, Alex."


So you are a School Crossing guard, Day laborer, roofer or Garbage man? We sure as hell know you are to stupid to fly a plane.


One of your "hero" pictures is a fucking cop and has jack shit to do with the military. Again, you are wandering off topic. Garbagemen have been know to have a hard time staying on subject.

For all you cunts bitching about how the government let you down, start fucking voting. Instead of spending your money on shit you do not need work for a political campaign during the season. The military is under control of assholes you elect. When you and your cunt friends and neighbors allow epic levels of voter fucking fraud you get the fucked up country we have now.

Cops do not protect you either and you still suck their dicks every other post.

Lol it’s “too” 29 palms

And it’s all the same shit, gov enforcers.

Vote? Yeah because that works, or do you think biden was the most voted for president in all of US history.