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Winning ticket DeSantis/Candace Owens

So lay out for us a better option?
I’ve done that many times already. There are no options working within the system used to control us. You won’t “vote” change. You can’t elect change. Trump proved this didn’t he? The only out is to remove ourselves from the system as best we can. Ignore their laws, rules, regulations, taxes, fines, elections, and their police. This is all designed to control our money, our movements, basically us. Men would have to protect themselves and their neighbor when doing so.

It would take a mass movement to be successful as any individual would be steamrolled by the systems police and justice system which is once again designed to control YOUR actions. Understand that anything a badged man or anyone else in government does is not for your benefit although sometimes it may seem that way. Don’t be fooled as this is just an illusion to keep men from rebelling.

All this talk about who to run for what and we can get them in 2022 and red wave bla bla bla. It’s all bullshit and everyone playing along knows it deep inside. They just suppress the obvious so they don’t have to accept the truth. The government of the USA is a murderous orginization hell bent on bringing in the NWO. Say it and believe it. There are far too many traitors working inside the government for a paycheck. All of them are either ignorant, complicit, or in on it. All gov employees at any level fall under one of the three categories I just laid out. A decent man that is informed would immediately remove himself from this evil criminal hostile organization known as government.
 
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The grifting cunt known as Candace Owens has already showed what she is during the GamerGate autismfest. She's not a real Conservative. Neither is people like Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk. Owens has always been a snake in the grass. Don't trust her. If black Conservative women is your thing, there's way better choices out there.
 
Didn't read all the responses but I'd go with Condoleezza Rice instead. More political experience and you'd get a portion on the gay vote.

Based on her relation with bush 2.0, probably the worst president in my lifetime, who did more damage to this country than anyone with his “patriot act”, I wouldn’t trust her to clean the library toilets, nor anyone who worked under his regime.
 
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She has far, far, far to much published statements with which to cherry pick out of context bits and beat her with them.

As for Trump, if he wins the primary then we will have another fucking Dem dimwit in the WH in 2024. He cannot and will not attract the independent voters and that demographic is who decides Presidential elections. Like it or not, this is real politics.

Your choice.
 
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The grifting cunt known as Candace Owens has already showed what she is during the GamerGate autismfest. She's not a real Conservative. Neither is people like Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk. Owens has always been a snake in the grass. Don't trust her. If black Conservative women is your thing, there's way better choices out there.
Whats wrong with Kirk?
Your bar may be to high...
 
If the economy is still in the toilet with no chance of repair, people will vote for a turnip before they elect a Biden Democrat.

BTW, we need to start calling them Biden Democrats. Any Demwit who supported the Biden administration needs to be called a Biden Democrat.

Wasn’t biden always known as a vote for a turnip?
 
Everyone involved with "Conservative Inc." is a phony. I personally don't have a problem with folks who make money off of their beliefs, but I do have a problem with those who aren't true and transparent with their fans who support and fund them.
I have given money to TPUSA...
I would rather not be doxed and would like to remain anonymous.
Your bar is to high.
I agree we need to keep an eye on these guys but by watching there deeds and words.
 
So, if trump get the nomination are you guys who say he’s not the one for the gig gonna vote against him?
We get only two choices. Democrat (*shudder*) or Republican (*shudder*) + the last election was allegedly stolen so...*WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER* what I think, want, perceive, suggest or vote for? Trump is a pathological liar who can't shut his fucking pie hole to save the Republic...did you watch the fucking Jan. 6th Testimony live? Of course not - fake news.

Biden is a senile pant pooping pedophile. I was assured he was going to be deposed and Kamel Toe installed but it seems that's bullshit as well as Trump coming back in in August of 2021 which I was assured (on this very forum) was *Gonna Happen!!* but it fizzled like a 4th of July sprinkler. Back to the Jan. 6th Testimony which I have watched Live to catch the Lying Media/Fake News manipulating/lying only the thing I saw was Ivanka, and others in the Trump Inner Circle throwing him under the bus...he's unelectable. Fake news or bullshit he won't/can't win. The guy is a fake billionaire douche' and he had his 4 years and got nothing he promised me done. Nada. He'll be lucky to not be under indictment for the 2024 elections. Right or wrong the guys in serious shit.

Now lets talk about Pant Pooper Pedophile Biden. Nah, lets not. Fuck....Fuck we are Fucked.

Move along...find a real Republican and get him nominated and elected and stop drooling over the failed Pathological Liar that is Trump. For the love of God stop sucking Trump Dick. Move along...I need options that are viable. I can't/won't vote for Failure and blatant pathological lying. I'll just sit here and hope for the best. Give me a Conservative candidate (ya'll know Trump was a *HuGe!* contributor to The Clinton Foundation prior to 2016, right?) who doesn't lie every other word and I'll vote for him *AND* shove money at his campaign fund. Give me Trump and I'll just cry myself to sleep (again) waiting for him to get rid of ObamaCare and "negotiate like crazy" with Drug Companies to solve the drug price issues...and where's my fucking Wall that Mexico was gonna pay for? Last I heard it was paid for by *Our Military Funds!* and never even got close to being effective. He's not a Swamp Dweller *but* he installed the biggest, baddest *EveR!* Alligators in The Swamp.

At least he stacked the Supreme Court. Very good - C+.

It. Doesn't. Matter. The Republic has failed and is now controlled by a Global Oligarchy that pays our *Representation* , Dems and RINO's alike, to fleece America. Vote how ya want. I'll be sleeping in. Bitch how ya see fit, we're fucked. Like Trump? Knock yourself out - he'll get as much done the 2nd time as he did the last time.

VooDoo
 
Pfffftttt. You assume alot in that tripe ass rant. I am just Merely asking if he does get the ballot are you guys gonna vote against him. It’s that simple

You options would be:
Don’t vote (that covers write-ins and independent)
Vote demorot

That’s all I’m asking. It’s meant to make you think. That’s all. What’s funny in all that is that at the end you seem to think there is something to get done. What’s there to get done if none of it matters?

I’m not a trumper in the true sense by any means.

I just think everyone’s mind is warped and propagated at this point (seems everyone accepts that it’s got to be a women VP…mind warp) There is no answer other than to just live and not even worry about it all

Still,I just can’t help but see how hypocritical you all sound.

I’m pretty sure trump knows he’s not gonna run.

At least the democrats stick together
 
Which is why Florida needs DeSantis!! A strong fighter at the state level.

Why I suggest a political outsider who’s already made it in life, to come through and work on Washington. But doesn’t need to be a “politician”. Come through run out the lifers, and able to take the heat.
The problem with that is what we saw with Trump. A political outsider just isn't well versed enough in the depravity of DC and all the dirty tricks they can play. Had Trump gone in and fired everyone he possibly could have, he'd be potus today, but he thought the pubs around him were giving him good advice and he thought he'd go along to get along.... and that is what got him. Basically the swamp is too deep to drain, so whoever goes there must be able to navigate it. Maybe a great businessman as vp and run it dicky D / Bush Jr style would work, but I'd say DeSantis is our best shot at economic recovery. We aren't actually going to vote our way out of this mess anyway, i just want a better economy to get myself fully sf sufficient for when we actually do fix this mess, which will be very hard times.
 
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The problem with that is what we saw with Trump. A political outsider just isn't well versed enough in the depravity of DC and all the dirty tricks they can play. Had Trump gone in and fired everyone he possibly could have, he'd be potus today, but he thought the pubs around him were giving him good advice and he thought he'd go along to get along.... and that is what got him. Basically the swamp is too deep to drain, so whoever goes there must be able to navigate it. Maybe a great businessman as vp and run it dicky D / Bush Jr style would work, but I'd say DeSantis is our best shot at economic recovery. We aren't actually going to vote our way out of this mess anyway, i just want a better economy to get myself fully sf sufficient for when we actually do fix this mess, which will be very hard times.
Dick and Bush Jr are the Swamp. W and Dick were 2 of the worst things to happen to this country. Bushes have over a century long links back to Rockefeller family business connections

Sammuel P Bush(w’s great grandfather)
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Prescot Bush was a Senator and Banker. War profiter!

George H Bush needs no introduction...

Neither does W. (WMD’s)

Bushes are multi generations deep in this country’s government. Bushes supported Clinton in 2016. Lol bushes... no fucking way!!! They ain’t changing shit!

Trump got pushed out because he was a Washington outsider. An outsider like that is exactly what we need. The Swamp Rats lied cheated and stole to defame Trump. Joe Got 81 million votes my ass!!! First time ever in the history of this country we have a widespread mail in ballots... That election was stolen! The fucking post office can’t even deliver packages to my house properly, try to report it missing they don’t care, nothing is done. Talk to the delivery boy driving the truck... obviously lying to me like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Most of the post office employees, around 300,000 nation wide, are part of a union which backs Democratic candidates. I don’t trust them with election ballots! They stole a brass catcher and decapping pin 3 weeks ago for instance. When I confront them and look them dead in the eyes. I see liars, cheats, playing stupid like they have no clue what I’m talking about. Fuck the US postal service!!!! They steal because they know Amazon will blindly replace the package... anyway.

Trump definitely is not perfect or infallible, but he is the closest thing to a Washington outsider we have probably ever had as president of this country!!! That is what we need. Not some Bush, Washington legacy type.

As a Floridian, we need someone like DeSantis here!!!! We do not want to give him up!!! Find someone else!

Btw. I am a registered Independent if you want to know what one independent thinks about this. Bush/Rhino/warhawk types keep me off the Republican ticket... Democrats are fucking nut jobs these days.
 
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The problem with that is what we saw with Trump. A political outsider just isn't well versed enough in the depravity of DC and all the dirty tricks they can play. Had Trump gone in and fired everyone he possibly could have, he'd be potus today, but he thought the pubs around him were giving him good advice and he thought he'd go along to get along.... and that is what got him.
Trump is not a stupid man even though some of his appointees torpedoed him. If he won a second term I think he would be ruthless in his appointments and would clean house on those worthless shits that were left in place before he took office again. We need a businessman with the brains to turn everything around. Once done maybe the dolts in this country will see that their fortunes are NEVER going to come at the hands of the democrats.
Howzabout a Trump/DeSantis ticket. One term with Trump/DeSantis then two terms of DeSantis/?.
 
Dick and Bush Jr are the Swamp. W and Dick were 2 of the worst things to happen to this country. Bushes have over a century long links back to Rockefeller family business connections

Sammuel P Bush(w’s great grandfather)
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Prescot Bush was a Senator and Banker. War profiter!

George H Bush needs no introduction...

Neither does W. (WMD’s)

Bushes are multi generations deep in this country’s government. Bushes supported Clinton in 2016. Lol bushes... no fucking way!!! They ain’t changing shit!

Trump got pushed out because he was a Washington outsider. An outsider like that is exactly what we need. The Swamp Rats lied cheated and stole to defame Trump. Joe Got 81 million votes my ass!!! First time ever in the history of this country we have a widespread mail in ballots... That election was stolen! The fucking post office can’t even deliver packages to my house properly, try to report it missing they don’t care, nothing is done. Talk to the delivery boy driving the truck... obviously lying to me like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Most of the post office employees, around 300,000 nation wide, are part of a union which backs Democratic candidates. I don’t trust them with election ballots! They stole a brass catcher and decapping pin 3 weeks ago for instance. When I confront them and look them dead in the eyes. I see liars, cheats, playing stupid like they have no clue what I’m talking about. Fuck the US postal service!!!! They steal because they know Amazon will blindly replace the package... anyway.

Trump definitely is not perfect or infallible, but he is the closest thing to a Washington outsider we have probably ever had as president of this country!!! That is what we need. Not some Bush, Washington legacy type.

As a Floridian, we need someone like DeSantis here!!!! We do not want to give him up!!! Find someone else!

Btw. I am a registered Independent if you want to know what one independent thinks about this. Bush/Rhino/warhawk types keep me off the Republican ticket... Democrats are fucking nut jobs these days.
Dude,.... do you have any reading comprehension what so ever????

I didn't say I liked those pieces of shit , I simply noted that Bush let cheny pretty much run shit by himself in many areas. Wth???
 
But would he take revenge or continue to lay down and hire RINO enemies like Pencildick Pence and Bill Barr?
Hillary should be behind bars right now.
Here's your answer to that: He supported Katie Britt, Richard Shelby's right hand in every sense. Look at here donations...big business/crony chamber of commerce. COMPLETE RINO.
 
J6 was just a peaceful protest. It really should've been the painting of our masterpiece, but no one wants to be the first to brush a stroke onto the canvas.
Meanwhile, if we're being straight with the laws, the democrats (I mean marxists) have repeatedly said since the SCOTUS decision on the NY Gun Law and the RvW overturn to be violent, protest, etc, etc. Pretty much 100% the same thing THEY did on Jan 6 but managed to have their Stasi blame Trump supporters on...even killed an innocent woman to make it go down. So, why are these congress folk not in the Jan 6 cells held without bail, basic rights for an American, etc??????????????????????????????????????????
 
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Trump is not a stupid man even though some of his appointees torpedoed him. If he won a second term I think he would be ruthless in his appointments and would clean house on those worthless shits that were left in place before he took office again. We need a businessman with the brains to turn everything around. Once done maybe the dolts in this country will see that their fortunes are NEVER going to come at the hands of the democrats.
Howzabout a Trump/DeSantis ticket. One term with Trump/DeSantis then two terms of DeSantis/?.
While I agree Trump has me nervous with his OZ love affair...
 
Dude,.... do you have any reading comprehension what so ever????

I didn't say I liked those pieces of shit , I simply noted that Bush let cheny pretty much run shit by himself in many areas. Wth???
Reading comprehension... You said we need to “ run it like W and Dick”.

I say fuck W and Dick. I don’t think you comprehend what they represent. People like them are the problem!
 
Don't know enough about him or her for that matter. I'm not sure Trump is looking to take back the office that was stolen from him either. I do think whoever is the Republican candidate, they will need Trump's endorsement. R/W could possibly hurt our side, but I'm not sure most of the middle Dems weren't R/W supporters. So, that may not make as much of a difference as one might think.

Regardless of who is there in 2024, we need to weed out as many RINOs in 2022 to give our next president the real power they will need to make substantial change.
Jesus Christ. No election was stolen from Trump. He ran a victory tour instead of a campaign. Every event was meant to stoke his ego and low emotional intelligence quotient. His ego and arrogance is the only thing that "stole" the election win from him. Had he actually run on his record and spoke to the undecideds he very may well have run, but even then I don't think so because Trump Derangement Syndrome rampant. Put his bluster and shit personality aside, history will likely show that he was the best president of my lifetime so far.

But there was no election stolen. He ran a shit campaign and lost because of it.
 
Change my mind

On the topics on point

On result’s unassailable

In debate VERY hard to debate

On virtue, Owen’s is actually black, her great granddad was slave and rised up and bought the land he was a slave on, as I recall, VS unlike the slave owning Indian Harris
Vice President is the shittiest position in government. As VP you don't really have any power, you're mostly just a plan B, in case something happens to the president. You go to the functions the president can't go to, it really just kinda sucks I think.

Owens would be better suited being nominated to a high level cabinet position like secretary of state. presidential candidates have, in the last 30 years or so, selected a running mate that was so bad, that nobody would want the VP as president (until Trump/Pence). Kinda seems like a surefire way to keep someone from trying to bump off the president....or impeach. Look at the current shit show, who thinks Kumswala would be able to run the country?

So who do I think should be the VP on a Desantis ticket...who cares, who votes on the VP? Have someone that just doesn't have a super checkered past, and barely qualifies for the job and call it good. Owens however, needs to be in a position where she can be effective on a broader scale than VP I think.

Branden
 
Jesus Christ. No election was stolen from Trump. He ran a victory tour instead of a campaign. Every event was meant to stoke his ego and low emotional intelligence quotient. His ego and arrogance is the only thing that "stole" the election win from him. Had he actually run on his record and spoke to the undecideds he very may well have run, but even then I don't think so because Trump Derangement Syndrome rampant. Put his bluster and shit personality aside, history will likely show that he was the best president of my lifetime so far.

But there was no election stolen. He ran a shit campaign and lost because of it.
Show me one Biden event where thousands of people showed up cheering for him?

81 million votes my ass.
 
Jesus Christ. No election was stolen from Trump. He ran a victory tour instead of a campaign. Every event was meant to stoke his ego and low emotional intelligence quotient. His ego and arrogance is the only thing that "stole" the election win from him. Had he actually run on his record and spoke to the undecideds he very may well have run, but even then I don't think so because Trump Derangement Syndrome rampant. Put his bluster and shit personality aside, history will likely show that he was the best president of my lifetime so far.

But there was no election stolen. He ran a shit campaign and lost because of it.
I disagree with 90% of what you said.
I do think bumpstocks hurt him though.
First time I had 8 foot signs and sent lots of money. After bumpstocks all he got from me was a hold my nose vote.
 
No it’s not. Larry Elder grew up in the hood in LA and that didn’t even slow those retarded accusations against him

And I think Desantis is better for the country if he stays in FL and keeps clowning dc. The 202 and all federal politics is a fucking cesspool that just needs to start being ignored by as many locales as possible. The feds don’t have the manpower to really crack down on more than a few dissident places at a time
My thoughts exactly.
 
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For the reasons you state there can be no losing the election for the, I wont even call them democrats, "Evil Cabal" is what they have become.

These people are long in the tooth and who is coming to replace them? AOC?

The Grim Reaper has deemed that an inflection point is coming. Its going to be a doozy. It will be a deciding moment.

Will there be the rebirth of respect for individual freedom or are people to become cattle controlled by an elite?

They can not let a centuries worth of work be determined by the operations of an election.

They fucked it up so bad last time stealing it, underestimating the amount of popularity Trump had, having to do the same will be like ripping the band aid off the wound but this time it will be taking the blinders off and exposing truth.

Thing is both sides are telling the truth.

One side supports the idea of the individual (sort of) the other side is telling you to your face - we are going to kill most of you but we will need some to serve us.

Problem is no one wants to listen.
I've mentioned it elsewhere on the Hide and I'll say it again here. If voting mattered they wouldn't let us do it. They're serious about getting them guns but they'll encourage the people to get out and vote. There's something to that.

I'll still go down and cast my vote, costs me nothing. But I'm not holding out much hope that it will have the desired effect. After all, what has been done to ensure that 2020 has been corrected and won't happen again ?
 
Jesus Christ. No election was stolen from Trump. He ran a victory tour instead of a campaign. Every event was meant to stoke his ego and low emotional intelligence quotient. His ego and arrogance is the only thing that "stole" the election win from him. Had he actually run on his record and spoke to the undecideds he very may well have run, but even then I don't think so because Trump Derangement Syndrome rampant. Put his bluster and shit personality aside, history will likely show that he was the best president of my lifetime so far.

But there was no election stolen. He ran a shit campaign and lost because of it.

So what you're saying is that the latest info coming out of AZ and GA is bunk? There were no ballot harvesting around the country regardless of video evidence? There's a legitimate reason to see thousands of votes go to Biden between 2 and 4 am? I guess seeing votes removed from Trump's count is a real thing to.

I get it, you don't like Trump, but you can't let your feelings get in the way of facts.
 
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The “people” are no longer working and thinking people. Far too many libtards. It will not get fixed
In that case it's already over. We're just awaiting out time at the gallows.
Took me a week to figure that one out. Trump had far more resources than I did obviously. I was a Trump man, but this is the start of when he lost me. He lost me completely when he turned his back after January 6th. Here we are.

I will always be grateful that he opened my eyes to what government is. Its fucking sick and we would be better off without it than what it has become or possibly always was.
I will always think that the greatest thing trump did was open people's eyes to the real issues with our government.
Losing the election was the best possible outcome. Now people can no longer sit on the sidelines and hope one man will fix all of their problems. Trump losing 2020 got a lot of people off the sidelines and actively involved in trying to implement change.
 
Reading comprehension... You said we need to “ run it like W and Dick”.

I say fuck W and Dick. I don’t think you comprehend what they represent. People like them are the problem!
I know much more about them and several others, not internet q bull shit, but actual information. I won't be going into all of that but rest assured I am well aware.


This is what I said.

"Maybe a great businessman as vp and run it dicky D / Bush Jr style would work, but I'd say DeSantis is our best shot at economic recovery."


This is referring to a great businessman as VP with an experiences politician as the Potus, yet the VP position running things to a large degree. (Which is how Bush and Cheny did thing). It says absolutely nothing about those two people or their impact in the USA.

You were just wrong and so ready to tell everyone what q told you, that you jumped the curb and and now you wo t just say "my bad, I hate those bastards and what all they have done to fleece and harm this nation". In which case, I'd have said "yup, they are among the worst of the worst for sure".