maybe the congress people themselves are pushing this division, it gives them more perceived power.I think i am showing up at my fktards town-hall.
I'll have to dig out an old Sniper's Hide Kopfjaeger hoodie and stand in the back and take notes.
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maybe the congress people themselves are pushing this division, it gives them more perceived power.I think i am showing up at my fktards town-hall.
LOL I thought you were going to ignore me? You couldn't ignore me if you tried, snowflake.
Again, you assume merely because I don't drink YOUR koolaid, that I must be a Democrat. Your thinking is incredibly 2-dimensional.
I just think that people like you, who are willing to sell-off our democracy to the Russian intelligence service for the price of a single election, are not only stupid, but traitors.
Someday, I hope you face a traitor's fate.
There doesn't have to be 1000s in on the conspiracy.
All you need is 40 years of indoctrination through the schools and you have a population of useful idiots to draw from. Useful idiots - whats old is new, and true.
Promote the true believers and guide them with the positioning of a Cronkite, Rather or Stephanopoulos. Their brains are like putty they will perform.
Your firearm example is a good one to show the homogeneity and patterning of the news - how is it all the time these diverse competitive orgs always end up with the same buzz words? Lately I hear the term "Extreme OUI" across the networks - standby your being conditioned for anyone above some arbitrary threshold to be getting enhanced penalties. Pie eyed is pie eyed but we got to keep the lawyers paid.
There is no ignore function on this board as of yet. Hopefully, that will change.
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There was no room for "hope".
If that's the truth of it, then the folks at the top are going to kick our ass. Applying a standard IQ metric of 1/50 having an IQ north of 130, and the fact that there were 33k full time newspaper journalists in the US in 2015, then you get 3300 who have an intelligence high enough to detect the pattern and question it. If only 10% are not indoctrinated, that is still 330 smart people who would be trying to spread the truth. With the anonymity afforded to the clever in our time, I find it difficult to believe we don't have some solid proof at this point. And that is only the full time newspaper journalists. If we include TV and other media, the base number goes north of 100k. If the elite can suppress that number of dissenters, without the benefit of random polygraph and loyalty tests that our security apparatus utilizes, then we are well and truly fucked.
You may as well point out the conspiracy to spread the term "lol". Put another way, if I were in a meeting of the biggest players in firearms news, how many would know what spinD is? "Monkey see monkey do" is a powerful and innate instinct of the human condition. Common terminology in the age of mass interconnection neither supports nor discounts the likelihood of collaboration. I don't even follow gossip and I still know the terms Benifer and Brangolina. Buzzwords are the modern plague (and I just used another one).
Election 2016: THERE IS NO ROOM FOR HOPE!
Missed opportunity of the decade. I could have made a killing putting that on tshirts.
election 2016: There is no room for hope!
Missed opportunity of the decade. I could have made a killing putting that on tshirts.
Go to "user settings", select "account" tab, scroll to the very last option titled "ignore list", copy pasta his user name into the field.
First, lets be specific on what you think my "side" is.
From the start, my argument is that there is sufficient stink here that a full and complete independent investigation needs to be made and we have the courage to deal with what we find, even if some of that dirt ends up on "your guys".
That seems to me to be a reasonable position. You can't see the reasonableness of that "side?"
Second, I have no intention of being the media's champion. I think there is some good reporting, I think there is some bad reporting. I think some stories are true, I think some stories are false. I think some reporters try to remain as objective as humanly possible. I think some reporters less their partisan goggles obscure their view. I think there is some fake news on CNN. I think there is some fake news on FOX and BREITBART.
I try and read as broad a spectrum of viewpoints as I can to average it all out. I don't dismiss any source out of hand, and I don't swallow any whole-sale.
yes, hope floats
the witch doesn't
Look prior to the election Trump was excoriated for being UnAmerican should he question the results of the election Hillary was ordained to win. There might as well have been no election the media and dems were that confident.First, lets be specific on what you think my "side" is.
From the start, my argument is that there is sufficient stink here that a full and complete independent investigation needs to be made and we have the courage to deal with what we find, even if some of that dirt ends up on "your guys".
That seems to me to be a reasonable position. You can't see the reasonableness of that "side?"
Second, I have no intention of being the media's champion. I think there is some good reporting, I think there is some bad reporting. I think some stories are true, I think some stories are false. I think some reporters try to remain as objective as humanly possible. I think some reporters less their partisan goggles obscure their view. I think there is some fake news on CNN. I think there is some fake news on FOX and BREITBART.
I try and read as broad a spectrum of viewpoints as I can to average it all out. I don't dismiss any source out of hand, and I don't swallow any whole-sale.
Well, uhh I could say the same thing about Flynn not assuming his call to a Russian ambassador wouldn't get recorded by our NSA. LOL
Well, we disagree. I think there are compelling reasons for us to find out the extent to which Russia has begun manipulating our elections.
And again, you are assuming Trump is guilty of something and has to be shielded.
My guess (just my opinion), is that the most likely scenario is that yes, the Russians used cyber attacks to attempt to influence the our election and tilt it in Trumps favor. They probably felt he would be easier to make deals with, more flexible on Ukraine, less wedded to NATO or promoting human rights in Russia.
My guess (just my opinion), is that Trump was merely the innocent beneficiary of that effort. My guess is that the transcripts of any contact between the Trump camp and Russian officials will turn out to be rather boring, innocuous preliminary diplomatic contact.
Getting all that out in the open would be a big help to Trump, remove the cloud of suspicion and make it easier to move past the 2016 election.
Protests in Worcester MA tonight. Participants included people clad in black with black face veils in their own little group.
Someone wants one party rule. If they keep asking for it it may be decided.
Same old crap...These Occupy Worcester fucks have been around for years. My son graduated WPI so I used to visit the place. Not many reasons to go there and now there are fewer
I get this mental image of the poor besieged bastards in their black leotards, with the mean old Trumpers riding out from Boston to seize their laptops at each and every Starbucks along the way. It's the very beginning of the Revolution! *chortle*
LOL. Not from Boston.
They would be riding in from the Central and Western part of the state
Yes. The Patriot Act (Passed by Bush with a Republican Congress if I recall) allows the NSA to record the conversations of US citizens if the counter-party is a foreign national (You know, like a Russian ambassador LOL).
Thanks.
Yes I voted Libertarian, and yes Gary was a goof. I vote Libertarian on general principal now days because I'd like to see a viable 3rd party build up to challenge our existing binary choice.
At the heart of it, I like the basic Libertarian ideals.
I don't begrudge you voting for Trump. The only thing I would ask of Trump voters is to face any new information with an objective eye and be willing to look in to what you are not comfortable looking into and have the intellectual courage to accept what you find without defaulting to knee-jerk tribal defensiveness.
Nixon did some great things, and some shit he did went over the line. Life isn't always black and white. Adults just accept that and deal with reality.
First, I wouldn't characterize it as "investigating Trump." That shouldn't be the focus. It should be an investigation of the integrity of our election process.
It should examine the possibility and extent of any foreign interference.
It should examine the communication and contact between our citizens and foreign intelligence operatives during the campaign. What was the extent of that contact, what was the purpose.
It also needs to examine if the charges of wide spread illegal voting was true.
I think any loyal American should feel these question need to be answered. We don't have to agree with the results of an election, but we do have to have faith that the entire thing isn't a sham. If people start believing that, they may start to feel violence is a better mechanism to effect change than the ballot box. That's not a situation I hope any of us want.
You are right that fairness and objectivity would be vital. If the investigation is seen to be compromised by either party, at least half of America won't accept the results.
That's why I don't think it can be the Trump DOJ, or the Republican House/Senate. And for the same reasons, I wouldn't turn it over to Pelosi or Schumer.
You would want to find a loyal American that has done honorable service for this country in a non-partisan context. A retired Federal Judge or Retired general officer. Colin Powell type? Someone who's reputation both sides would agree was beyond reproach. Surely we could find someone that the majority of non-extremists could agree upon.
You give them a committee, a staff, and full subpoena power, and let them do their job.
Surely you are not suggesting that because Trump has enemies that he must be considered beyond investigation. That would be a very dangerous situation. The founding fathers would never have wanted someone with the sweeping powers of the Presidency to ever be considered beyond investigation. The founding fathers created the other branches of government, and the freedom of the press, exactly to keep a powerful executive in check.
Well aware of where one goes from the red, through the purple zone, and into the blue up there. It was the historical thing, the Gagian excursion to seize stores of powder and shot in April, 1775 that I was having fun with. The wife has knee-jerk Libtard family in CT, MA, and NH, and any trip to the corner pocket involving me comes with a strict AYCE lobster roll stipulation in return for feigning polite non-reaction to their propogandistic Jackass Party pokes.
And though I'm not okay with that. Recording Flynn was lawful and Flynn making the call was lawful.
What don't you understand about the fact that the law was broken when the identity of Flynn, a citizen not breaking the law, was revealed? The revealer was a US agency not a Russian one.
If you think Russia was subversive hacking Hillarys and Podestas Walmart brand security network don't you agree its subversive for a security agent of this govt to break our laws to protect citizens from random spying. Where is your libertarianism?
Similar security laws were broken when Trumps calls to Mexico and Australia were revealed. The difference in that case was that Trump was on an Oval Office phone which I think we can agree has better security features than Hillarys shitter placed Walmart server. This is a serious breach and can only have been committed by an internal weasel. What will happen when he discusses serious stuf ther than the wall and Obamas coddling of terrorists.
Do do you agree the intel swamp needs to be drained of those loyal to party or their agency over country?
Interesting Veer...I never put 2 and 2 together.
If you visit Boston again and want the worlds best in Lobster roll, go to Neptune's Oyster...pricey but the best I have had.
I think he's really more of a Summer Soldier type, if not simply a mendacious provocateur. He lacks the wherewithal of a true Winter Soldier.
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Unless you're trying to be like your interlocutor and leverage your investment in Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing, it might be time to just -- move on -- from this one. You're dealing with an ideological gila monster.
Can you quote any post of mine where I dispute that?
Here is a thought you should at least consider. Perhaps it wasn't the US intelligence service that leaked that info. If I were the head of Russian intelligence I would certainly consider leaking that info to deprive my enemy of an important security officer and make the President think he is being betrayed from within. Make it look like the leaks came from US intelligence.
Wouldn't Putin love to drive a wedge between the President and the US intelligence community? Wouldn't that be very useful to hamstring an adversary? Sowing distrust and dissection within their own ranks?
Apparently there will be an IG investigation into the leaks.
And Apparently there is going to be a Congressional investigation into the Russian interference in our election. I'd prefer an independent counsel, but this is probably as good as I'm going to get. Hopefully there will be enough heat and attention on this investigation that an attempt at white-wash won't be possible.
So, at this point I'm content to just wait and see how things play out over the next 6 months.
Maybe if you buy its ballpoint pen and the piece of hard candy it'll make quota and they'll let it have some tofu with its brown rice tonight?
Excuse me Ive got some rounds to shoot so I can update my post in the bolt action section. If you go there be careful the post features a gun. I don't want to "trigger" you or offend you.
Been watching that post. Like what I see. If you don't mind I'm gonna hit the door with you and hang some steel. Rain stopped. Wanna see if this new 168 and 175 load will hit the broad side of a barn.![]()