It’s a time filler at this point. Idc either way honestlyDudes it was a $0 pre-order, how is there so much consternation over when these things ship.
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It’s a time filler at this point. Idc either way honestlyDudes it was a $0 pre-order, how is there so much consternation over when these things ship.
I’m guessing they just messed up the dates I will bet it will still be 2025 before anyone gets there unitOh I’m a 12/19/23 order. Interesting.
But you will still present your card when asked!It doesn’t matter how or why there is so much consternation, it matters that so many people are experiencing and expressing it
In any case, the message is out: if you promise something way too early and then delay and delay and delay and failed to communicate along the way, you piss a bunch of people off and ruin your credibility
You can like it or not, but that’s just the way it is
Well, if you want to give it up, let me know.Oh I’m a 12/19/23 order. Interesting.
Go play with your Chargemaster.Well, if you want to give it up, let me know.
I am and I’m tired of it!Go play with your Chargemaster.
MatchMaster, Grasshopper. Get it straightGo play with your Chargemaster.
worse purchase than the suckers that bought mausingfieldsMatchMaster, Grasshopper. Get it straight
Don’t remember asking you, Maury. I’ll give you this…you are constant.worse purchase than the suckers that bought mausingfields
I've been called a lot things but none of them are as bad as being accused of buying a $900 matchmasterDon’t remember asking you, Maury. I’ll give you this…you are constant.
Well gee, Maury, if you ever served your country instead of just arrogantly mouthing off, one of them wouldn’t cost you nearly that much.I've been called a lot things but none of them are as bad as being accused of buying a $900 matchmaster
are you flexing a discount??? just when I thought the matchmaster was bad......Well gee, Maury, if you ever served your country instead of just arrogantly mouthing off, one of them wouldn’t cost you nearly that much.
Go try to fuck with someone. Goodbye.
Doesn’t matter to me either way. I’ll happily pay for it whenever I get the email, just as I’m sure most people that preordered it will do the same…It doesn’t matter how or why there is so much consternation, it matters that so many people are experiencing and expressing it
In any case, the message is out: if you promise something way too early and then delay and delay and delay and fail to communicate along the way, you piss a bunch of people off and ruin your credibility
You can like it or not, but that’s just the way it is
More than a few people held out on getting other options because of the original release date. Those are probably the majority of the pissed folks.Doesn’t matter to me either way. I’ll happily pay for it whenever I get the email, just as I’m sure most people that preordered it will do the same…
I’m just wondering why anyone has their panties in a bunch over it when they aren’t out any money, or why it even matters when the units are ready for the same reason.
We’re making a stink about it because when this was teased it was absolutely going to be a game changer. Still will but when you’re waiting for something that you already saved the money for and it keeps getting pushed back over and over it’s frustrating. This is like buying a suppressor with a trust.Doesn’t matter to me either way. I’ll happily pay for it whenever I get the email, just as I’m sure most people that preordered it will do the same…
I’m just wondering why anyone has their panties in a bunch over it when they aren’t out any money, or why it even matters when the units are ready for the same reason.
Face it, their board and want to whine because their oatmeal wasn’t readyDoesn’t matter to me either way. I’ll happily pay for it whenever I get the email, just as I’m sure most people that preordered it will do the same…
I’m just wondering why anyone has their panties in a bunch over it when they aren’t out any money, or why it even matters when the units are ready for the same reason.
You’ll know I’m bored when I start correcting grammatical errors.Face it, their board and want to whine because their oatmeal wasn’t ready
^This. I sold other machines in anticipation of IP based on Feb release date, only to hand trickle for many looooong months, and then relented and bought an ATV2 to tide me over.More than a few people held out on getting other options because of the original release date. Those are probably the majority of the pissed folks.
Yeah you try tying on an iPhone and trying to fight the stupid miniature keyboard and insane auto correctYou’ll know I’m bored when I start correcting grammatical errors.
*they’re bored* (I type as I sloppily spoon more oatmeal into my mouth.)
And all this time, my V4 has been serving me perfectly.
Sorry, just had to get this dig in after all the wailing and gnashing of teeth.
I can’t wait for this thread to be that old. It’s gonna be epicI’m think first orders might ship in 2026 at this point
Oh, wow. You may be right!Now that the dock workers are on strike I wonder what that does to the dozens of components from around the world that make up this nifty contraption we are all waiting for. I’m think first orders might ship in 2026 at this point because the supply chain is gonna be completely f’d for the next 6-9 months at a minimum.
Now that the dock workers are on strike I wonder what that does to the dozens of components from around the world that make up this nifty contraption we are all waiting for. I’m think first orders might ship in 2026 at this point because the supply chain is gonna be completely f’d for the next 6-9 months at a minimum.
Do you really think small parts for this powder system, in numbers in proportion to reloaders who would buy such a system, will be shipped here by sea? That would astound me.
My point being that I would indeed be shocked if a longshoreman strike impacted his incoming parts shipments.Well - that would take longer...
No impact.Now that the dock workers are on strike I wonder what that does to the dozens of components from around the world that make up this nifty contraption we are all waiting for. I’m think first orders might ship in 2026 at this point because the supply chain is gonna be completely f’d for the next 6-9 months at a minimum.
My point being that I would indeed be shocked if a longshoreman strike impacted his incoming parts shipments.
Herb, I was pretty sure you were being facetious, but you can never really tell on the Hide.It was a joke…
May I ask why?My personal opinion would be to sell the v4 and go v2(with v3 electronics) or v3 plus ip trickler.
It will not be as fast with V4. The best thing to do is score a V3.As I posted earlier, I gave up and ordered the IP Trickler alone, and the V3 electronics, cable, and power supply so I am now hand-throwing and IP-trickling. It’s working great.
So I have a friend with an AT V4. He wants to add the IP Trickler to it. Am I correct in telling all HE needs is the IP Trickler and the V4 cable? For those of you with the AT V4/IP trickler combo, have you been happier with it over the AT V4 alone? (ie worth it)?
V2 because Lee makes the dropper parts and you can replace it when you wear it out.May I ask why?
Am I correct in telling all HE needs is the IP Trickler and the V4 cable? For those of you with the AT V4/IP trickler combo, have you been happier with it over the AT V4 alone? (ie worth it)?
Thanks. That's about all he's looking to do (stop the overthrows). I can understand the V2, V3 might be better overall (and I appreciate the info from the above posters), but If he was going to sell his V4 for something else that isn't even available, I'd tell him to just wait for the IP System. (A little dig/joke at IP for teasing us this long, but still true).Correct.
I run a IP trickler with my v4 and I'd say its well worth it. Although it may ne be quite as fast as a V2/V3 and IP combo its definitely faster than a stock v4 and overthrows are a thing of the past.
I hated the v4 so much i sold it so I wouldn't have to look at it. I also think the backtracking from the large tube was a part of the v4 downfall. I still resent Adam for selling me that piece of shit v4. I bought the V3 + IP and never been happierThanks. That's about all he's looking to do (stop the overthrows). I can understand the V2, V3 might be better overall (and I appreciate the info from the above posters), but If he was going to sell his V4 for something else that isn't even available, I'd tell him to just wait for the IP System. (A little dig/joke at IP for teasing us this long, but still true).
If it's at least as fast as his stock V4, and will stop his overthrows, he will be happy. Then he can always upgrade to the complete system when it comes out if he wants to.