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William Buck Memorial Postal Matches
- Thread starter Rimfireshooter99
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Larry,
I am happy to see this thread still going strong. My life has been crazy busy the last year or so, but I am finally in a place to shoot some more. Thank you for carrying this on! I can’t wait to try a 6X5, it should be ugly… ha
-Jesse
I am happy to see this thread still going strong. My life has been crazy busy the last year or so, but I am finally in a place to shoot some more. Thank you for carrying this on! I can’t wait to try a 6X5, it should be ugly… ha
-Jesse
Hi Larry,
I have been using the Eagle Eye magnifier to score the close ones, very easy to use. Are they okay for scoring the match targets?
Attached is my first try with my Volquartsen 10/22 lightweight with a 16" carbon fiber barrel in a Grey Birch chassis, a real joy to shoot.
Very happy with its
performance.
I have been using the Eagle Eye magnifier to score the close ones, very easy to use. Are they okay for scoring the match targets?
Attached is my first try with my Volquartsen 10/22 lightweight with a 16" carbon fiber barrel in a Grey Birch chassis, a real joy to shoot.
Very happy with its
BillZ, magnifier is fine for use. Nice shooting with your VQ! I have your score posted.
Larry
I know the VQ could do better. The problem is "me" with the 2lb trigger, I spend so much time shooting my V22 & V22s with 3oz TT triggers I don't have the trigger discipline for shooting a light weight rifle with a good 2lb pull.
Jerry, I have your score posted. Man, that new rifle sure is shooting well. I finished Nationals in 56th place, with an agg of 2087.50.
125 shooters present for the match, all unlimited. Winds were challenging for me, but I was able to shoot a few good cards. I shot a pair of 2200's, a pair of 2100's, and single targets of 2075, 2050, 2000 and 1975.
This was my 4th Nationals, but the first time I have shot over 2000 for my agg. So, I finished in my highest ranking position and with my highest agg for a National Tourney. From that perspective, I feel I am headed in the right direction. However, my goal for the Tourney was to shoot my national agg (2116), or better, and I missed that slightly. We'll see, maybe next year I can make another step improvement to my rank and agg.
Larry
Unlimited Match - 50 yds
200/15x - Martini- 2500X/Eley Match on 09/10/24
195/06x - Martini- Custom 40X/Eley Club XTRA on 09/10/24
200/15x - Martini- 2500X/Eley Match on 09/10/24
195/06x - Martini- Custom 40X/Eley Club XTRA on 09/10/24
Randy, I have your scores posted.Unlimited Match - 50 yds
200/15x - Martini- 2500X/Eley Match on 09/10/24
195/06x - Martini- Custom 40X/Eley Club XTRA on 09/10/24
Last month using my Cabela's points, I acquired a used 10/22 with Clark Custom Run-0ff barrel, Butler Creek moulded stock, overside bolt handle and trigger that that been reworked to a crisp 3# with no discernable over travel or let up. I suppose it had been set up as a race rifle back when that competition was popular. The plastic stock didn't work for me so I installed a laminated stock (as best as I recall it's a Tony Mele Avenger style which I purchased as a blemish on Ebay) previously removed from one of my other 10/22's due to a crack and a couple of small delams which I repaired with super glue. Also, I installed a bag rider which I fabricated from red oak and a Mueller 8-32 MD scope
My first step with a new 22 is to determine what ammo it likes. For a 10/22 I don't spend a whole lot of time on Lapua or Eley black box ammo as they exceed my budget for this rifle. For a screening test to determine which ammo the rifle likes I shot five shot groups (in some cases repeating the five shot groups) for Aguila (SE-SV, Golden Eagle Target, Golden Eagle Pistol), Norma (TAC-22 and Match-22), SK (different lots of Standard Plus, Rifle Match, Pistol Match), Eley (Contact, Club, Remington Club, XTRA, S/A Benchrest Precision, Club XTRA which has a dimpled bullet like Match), RWS Semi-Auto, CCI-SV, and Federal (711B, 922A, and Auto Match).
Clearly the rifle likes Eley ammo. Based on these results additional testing will be needed with Eley Club, SK+ lot 22152/14294. Eley Contact, and SK Pistol Match Special. Although the best group was shot with Eley Club XTRA (which I believe to be Eley Match) it isn't available any longer an I'll probably reserve the 500 rounds I have left for my 40X.
Given I had 35 rounds remaining of the no longer available Remington Eley Club XTRA, I elected to shoot a match grade target with the rifle. Bull #2 is very close the plug definitely touches the 10 ring. This rifle is well on it's way to earning a better scope.
Match-Grade Match - 50 yds
200/6X - Martini - Custom Ruger 10/22/Eley Semi-Auto Benchrest Precision on 08/28/24
My first step with a new 22 is to determine what ammo it likes. For a 10/22 I don't spend a whole lot of time on Lapua or Eley black box ammo as they exceed my budget for this rifle. For a screening test to determine which ammo the rifle likes I shot five shot groups (in some cases repeating the five shot groups) for Aguila (SE-SV, Golden Eagle Target, Golden Eagle Pistol), Norma (TAC-22 and Match-22), SK (different lots of Standard Plus, Rifle Match, Pistol Match), Eley (Contact, Club, Remington Club, XTRA, S/A Benchrest Precision, Club XTRA which has a dimpled bullet like Match), RWS Semi-Auto, CCI-SV, and Federal (711B, 922A, and Auto Match).
Clearly the rifle likes Eley ammo. Based on these results additional testing will be needed with Eley Club, SK+ lot 22152/14294. Eley Contact, and SK Pistol Match Special. Although the best group was shot with Eley Club XTRA (which I believe to be Eley Match) it isn't available any longer an I'll probably reserve the 500 rounds I have left for my 40X.
Given I had 35 rounds remaining of the no longer available Remington Eley Club XTRA, I elected to shoot a match grade target with the rifle. Bull #2 is very close the plug definitely touches the 10 ring. This rifle is well on it's way to earning a better scope.
Match-Grade Match - 50 yds
200/6X - Martini - Custom Ruger 10/22/Eley Semi-Auto Benchrest Precision on 08/28/24
Randy, good looking rifle and obviously a good shooting rifle. I have your score posted.Last month using my Cabela's points, I acquired a used 10/22 with Clark Custom Run-0ff barrel, Butler Creek moulded stock, overside bolt handle and trigger that that been reworked to a crisp 3# with no discernable over travel or let up. I suppose it had been set up as a race rifle back when that competition was popular. The plastic stock didn't work for me so I installed a laminated stock (as best as I recall it's a Tony Mele Avenger style which I purchased as a blemish on Ebay) previously removed from one of my other 10/22's due to a crack and a couple of small delams which I repaired with super glue. Also, I installed a bag rider which I fabricated from red oak and a Mueller 8-32 MD scope
My first step with a new 22 is to determine what ammo it likes. For a 10/22 I don't spend a whole lot of time on Lapua or Eley black box ammo as they exceed my budget for this rifle. For a screening test to determine which ammo the rifle likes I shot five shot groups (in some cases repeating the five shot groups) for Aguila (SE-SV, Golden Eagle Target, Golden Eagle Pistol), Norma (TAC-22 and Match-22), SK (different lots of Standard Plus, Rifle Match, Pistol Match), Eley (Contact, Club, Remington Club, XTRA, S/A Benchrest Precision, Club XTRA which has a dimpled bullet like Match), RWS Semi-Auto, CCI-SV, and Federal (711B, 922A, and Auto Match).
Clearly the rifle likes Eley ammo. Based on these results additional testing will be needed with Eley Club, SK+ lot 22152/14294. Eley Contact, and SK Pistol Match Special. Although the best group was shot with Eley Club XTRA (which I believe to be Eley Match) it isn't available any longer an I'll probably reserve the 500 rounds I have left for my 40X.
Given I had 35 rounds remaining of the no longer available Remington Eley Club XTRA, I elected to shoot a match grade target with the rifle. Bull #2 is very close the plug definitely touches the 10 ring. This rifle is well on it's way to earning a better scope.
Match-Grade Match - 50 yds
200/6X - Martini - Custom Ruger 10/22/Eley Semi-Auto Benchrest Precision on 08/28/24
I messed up my rifle information. Too much cut and not enough paste. It should read.
200/6X - Martini - Custom Ruger 10/22 Clark Barrel/Remington Eley Club XTRA on 09/17/24
Jerry, very nice! That ammo looks very stable vertically on your target rows. Well done! I have your score posted.
Here is my September submission. I will try to get out to the range and do a couple more if possible. Thanks for doing this.
6X5 submission for September. Not my best, but it will do for a quick box at 50. Shot prone off an Atlas CAL & Precision Underground bag. The barrel was fouled when I started. I meant to put cold dirty bore...
Today's results-
Factory Target Match - 50 yds
170/9x - Martini - Tikka T1X/SK Standard Plus on 9/24/24
180/9x - Martini - CZ457 MTR/SK Standard Plus on 9/24/24
Also, I messed up my rifle information on my 9/17 post for Match Grade rifle. Too much cut and not enough paste. It should read-
200/6X - Martini - Custom Ruger 10/22 Clark Barrel/Remington Eley Club XTRA on 09/17/24
Factory Target Match - 50 yds
170/9x - Martini - Tikka T1X/SK Standard Plus on 9/24/24
180/9x - Martini - CZ457 MTR/SK Standard Plus on 9/24/24
Also, I messed up my rifle information on my 9/17 post for Match Grade rifle. Too much cut and not enough paste. It should read-
200/6X - Martini - Custom Ruger 10/22 Clark Barrel/Remington Eley Club XTRA on 09/17/24
Randy, I updated your details on the Match Grade entry, and posted your FR scores.Today's results-
Factory Target Match - 50 yds
170/9x - Martini - Tikka T1X/SK Standard Plus on 9/24/24
180/9x - Martini - CZ457 MTR/SK Standard Plus on 9/24/24
Also, I messed up my rifle information on my 9/17 post for Match Grade rifle. Too much cut and not enough paste. It should read-
200/6X - Martini - Custom Ruger 10/22 Clark Barrel/Remington Eley Club XTRA on 09/17/24
Greyknife/Ralph
50 Yard Factory Score 180 10X
Savage Mark II BTV (totally as from the factory)
6X24 Scope @24
SK Std Plus ammo
Sinclair front rest and Protector leather rear.
60 degrees with little wind.
Got to the range early yesterday and it was cool at 60 degrees and light wind. Warmed the rifle up and then proceeded to this target. My first 3 sighters on the left were all 10's so I thought maybe this is my day to get a really good score. Target #1 on top left first shot was a nice 10 and then after I shot the second shot I could not believe it but it went almost right where my first shot went. I had to check to be sure and there is a slight difference. Maybe the first time I have ever got 2 shots almost in the same exact hole. Now I figured this is my day to get a 200 on this target. My next shot was a 5 on the second target and then things continued like normal. I hate to give up this competition, but sure wish I would be doing better.
50 Yard Factory Score 180 10X
Savage Mark II BTV (totally as from the factory)
6X24 Scope @24
SK Std Plus ammo
Sinclair front rest and Protector leather rear.
60 degrees with little wind.
Got to the range early yesterday and it was cool at 60 degrees and light wind. Warmed the rifle up and then proceeded to this target. My first 3 sighters on the left were all 10's so I thought maybe this is my day to get a really good score. Target #1 on top left first shot was a nice 10 and then after I shot the second shot I could not believe it but it went almost right where my first shot went. I had to check to be sure and there is a slight difference. Maybe the first time I have ever got 2 shots almost in the same exact hole. Now I figured this is my day to get a 200 on this target. My next shot was a 5 on the second target and then things continued like normal. I hate to give up this competition, but sure wish I would be doing better.
Unfortunately my days are numbered as I will be 87 in December, but I still enjoy shooting.
After changing the bedding on my 1215, improving the rest set-up and shooting 28 different batches of ammo (the SK+ lot I shot managed five shot groups of 0.32" and 0.42 in testing), I thought I had a nice enough day to shoot a target. The wind came up, I got the same fliers I've always had with this rifle, and see zero improvement. Perhaps, it's time to have the barrel cut back to 20" or give up on this gun altogether.
Trying not to focus on the negativity I also changed rests on my Annie and managed one point higher with the same X-count as last month.
Iron Sight Match - 50 yds
197/8X - Martini- Anschutz 1411/Aguila Golden Eagle Match Pistol on 09/26/24
Match-Grade Match
153/4X - Martini - BSA Martini M1215/SK Standard Plus on 9/26/24
Trying not to focus on the negativity I also changed rests on my Annie and managed one point higher with the same X-count as last month.
Iron Sight Match - 50 yds
197/8X - Martini- Anschutz 1411/Aguila Golden Eagle Match Pistol on 09/26/24
Match-Grade Match
153/4X - Martini - BSA Martini M1215/SK Standard Plus on 9/26/24
Randy, I have your scores posted.After changing the bedding on my 1215, improving the rest set-up and shooting 28 different batches of ammo (the SK+ lot I shot managed five shot groups of 0.32" and 0.42 in testing), I thought I had a nice enough day to shoot a target. The wind came up, I got the same fliers I've always had with this rifle, and see zero improvement. Perhaps, it's time to have the barrel cut back to 20" or give up on this gun altogether.
Trying not to focus on the negativity I also changed rests on my Annie and managed one point higher with the same X-count as last month.
Iron Sight Match - 50 yds
197/8X - Martini- Anschutz 1411/Aguila Golden Eagle Match Pistol on 09/26/24
Match-Grade Match
153/4X - Martini - BSA Martini M1215/SK Standard Plus on 9/26/24
Larry
Bottom line is that SK Standard plus is not match grade ammo and will have more flyers and inconsistency. Your ammo for $8.00 per box is fairly good, but still not in the same league as Center X, R 50 or Midas + and others which cost substantially more. I also limit my spending on ammo and it shows up in my scores too.
Greyknife, look back a few months on the first posting at the prior months Factory Rifle Matches. Lots of shooters are using SK Std+.
FYI,
Larry
Closing out September with a wimper. . .
Match-Grade Match - 50 yds
186/04X - Martini - BSA Martini International Mark II/SK Standard Plus on 09/30/24
181/07X - Martini - BSA Martini International Mark III/SK Flat Nose Match on 09/30/24
Match-Grade Match - 50 yds
186/04X - Martini - BSA Martini International Mark II/SK Standard Plus on 09/30/24
181/07X - Martini - BSA Martini International Mark III/SK Flat Nose Match on 09/30/24
Randy, I have your scores posted.Closing out September with a wimper. . .
Match-Grade Match - 50 yds
186/04X - Martini - BSA Martini International Mark II/SK Standard Plus on 09/30/24
181/07X - Martini - BSA Martini International Mark III/SK Flat Nose Match on 09/30/24
While I don't disagree that the more expensive grades of Eley, Lapua, or RWS would result in higher scores, I'm more inclined to blame my technique inconsistency as well as inability to read the wind where I shoot (buildings and trees around the shooting lane). In the case of my M1215, it is a parts rifle that I put together from a barreled action, OEM buttstock, and a forend that someone made. I elected to have the forend installed by a professional gunsmith and have regretted it as he didn't do as I asked. These days it's difficult to find gunsmiths who understand Martini action rifles.
Part of the issue is that the 27" barrel causes the rifle to be front heavy which I have partly corrected by adding weight to the buttstock. The gunsmith who installed the forend only bedded the first couple of inches of the forend which I have attempted to correct with aluminum tape bedding but I probably need to bite the bullet and reposition the forend attachment screws (or add a contact block between the forend and barrel at the end of the forend) and glass bed the forend. When shooting Martini's or any two piece rifle the position at which front rest contacts the forend is critical as is the bedding of the forend. I recut the crown myself so that is suspect as well.
Randy
Wind was nice and mild until it wasn't, a few bulls into my 40X target.
Unlimited Match - 50 yds
200/17x - Martini- 2500X (Shilen)/Eley Match on 10/02/24
180/07x - Martini- Custom 40X(Shilen)/Eley Club XTRA on 10/02/24
Unlimited Match - 50 yds
200/17x - Martini- 2500X (Shilen)/Eley Match on 10/02/24
180/07x - Martini- Custom 40X(Shilen)/Eley Club XTRA on 10/02/24
Randy, I have your scores posted.Wind was nice and mild until it wasn't, a few bulls into my 40X target.
Unlimited Match - 50 yds
200/17x - Martini- 2500X (Shilen)/Eley Match on 10/02/24
180/07x - Martini- Custom 40X(Shilen)/Eley Club XTRA on 10/02/24
I was able to shoot a little this afternoon. I think the wind was occasionally blowing down the hill which caused a few rounds to drop low. I still need to figure out my new range a little. But I'm happy with the cold dirty bore cold shooter group, the low round was either the 3rd or 4th of the string but it's well within the acceptable range for me. Those other low shots not so much...
Also gave this one a go (I had the target turned sideways to fit on my backer):
Here's the new range, it's so nice to walk out the door and shoot:
Also gave this one a go (I had the target turned sideways to fit on my backer):
Here's the new range, it's so nice to walk out the door and shoot:
JBell, nice range! That's the life, wake up, walk out to the porch, and shoot! One question, what ammo did you shoot for your targets?
Yeah, I have been waiting on this day for a very long time.
Sorry I forgot, Center X
200 yard 6X5, it does not include the 10 round SK LR group I just shot it at the end to see what it would do:
The target is at the top of the hill past the driveway in the weeds.
The target is at the top of the hill past the driveway in the weeds.
Greyknife, your summary says Norma TAC, your target says SK STD+? Which is correct? Thanks!
Sorry, I was using some copy and paste from another time. I shot SK Standard Plus in October for this factory target. Thanks
Hi Larry, My last target from NH, heading back to SE Pa for the winter. Will miss the range in NH much better than what I have close to me in Pa. Also a picture of my VQ Light weight with a tuner. Could not get the tuner to work on my V22, decided to give it a try on the VQ. I think the weight on the barrel had a positive effect.
