Ingenuity Precision trickler

Maurygold · Oct 10, 2024

it's a shitty deisgn that doesn't work. no premium product should need spacers and tips and space magic to work right. it took him 2 years just to release a tuning video (which should have never been needed in the first place if it worked right).

It was a major step backward from the v3 that was funded and tested by consumers who got left with a dog-shit product at a premium price.

secondofangle2 · Oct 10, 2024

What is “backtracking from the large tube”?

vh20 · Oct 10, 2024

Maurygold said:
it's a shitty deisgn that doesn't work. no premium product should need spacers and tips and space magic to work right. it took him 2 years just to release a tuning video (which should have never been needed in the first place if it worked right).

It was a major step backward from the v3 that was funded and tested by consumers who got left with a dog-shit product at a premium price.

Funny you mention that. My friend just came across those tuning videos, had been running the V4 for a long time already. He followed the videos and his next session last week went perfectly (small run of only 20 rounds, but no overthrows). He was happy…until his next session yesterday. Then I got a text today saying it was still just as bad and he’s ordering the IP Trickler to stop the overthrows.

GenericBadGuy · Oct 10, 2024

You would think by now there would be an ATV5 to fix those problems but Adam isn't interested. People keep buying.

Baron23 · Oct 10, 2024

GenericBadGuy said:
You would think by now there would be an ATV5 to fix those problems but Adam isn't interested. People keep buying.

Did he work for Labradar by any chance.

The IP powder drop stystem may be his version of the Garmin…well, when it ships. Haha

K80/6.5 · Oct 10, 2024

Baron23 said:
Did he work for Labradar by any chance.

The IP powder drop stystem may be his version of the Garmin…well, when it ships. Haha

If it makes it to the public.

Maurygold · Oct 10, 2024

secondofangle2 said:
What is “backtracking from the large tube”?

The large tube reverses at the end of its pour. That small reversal would often drop a large amount that sent the load over. This combined with the increased cost of a v4+ ip made me very hesitant to even try it. But would still be a huge improvement using the v4+ ip over just the v4

NICETRY · Oct 11, 2024

K80/6.5 said:
If it makes it to the public.

It’ll make it. Hopefully by this time next week there will be 3 cnc machines cranking out the aluminum parts. Getting the 3 cnc machines going has not been without its challenges even the new one Paul purchased because his other machines were giving him fits. I believe most of the printed parts are done.

FNG1001 · Oct 11, 2024

NICETRY said:
It’ll make it. Hopefully by this time next week there will be 3 cnc machines cranking out the aluminum parts. Getting the 3 cnc machines going has not been without its challenges even the new one Paul purchased because his other machines were giving him fits. I believe most of the printed parts are done.

How likely is the current timeline of being fullfilled if 3 cnc machines are arriving this time next month (mid november)?

"The current estimate for shipping new orders is early 1st quarter 2025. Orders placed between 12-23 and 3-24 should start shipping toward the end of November. Orders placed after 3-24 will be in the second batch going out early first quarter as well."

Baron23 · Oct 11, 2024

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FNG1001 said:
if 3 cnc machines are arriving this time next month (mid november)?

NICETRY said:
this time next week there will be 3 cnc machines cranking out the aluminum parts.

Slow down there, @FNG1001 and read a bit more carefully. Cheers

NICETRY · Oct 11, 2024

If no other issues arise I’d say there is a good chance.

Tokay444 · Oct 11, 2024

What machines are they?

NICETRY · Oct 11, 2024

Baron23 said:
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Machines are on site. New one was setup this week but waiting on some parts to show up Monday to get it up and running.

NICETRY · Oct 11, 2024

Tokay444 said:
What machines are they?

Kitamura, Hyundai, and a new Micro Dynamics.

Baron23 · Oct 11, 2024

NICETRY said:
Machines are on site. New one was setup this week but waiting on some parts to show up Monday to get it up and running.

Ah yeah....I can read and I got it. My post was response to @FNG1001 's post saying "this time next month (mid-November)" when you clearly stated this time next week.

He may want to slow down a bit and read a bit more carefully.

Cheers

SD Carpenter · Oct 13, 2024

I just got the IP trickler for my v3 and after loading for 2 2days in a row it is ridiculous and I kick myself for not getting it sooner. I can only hope the full system is just as thought out and engineered.

BuildingConceptsllc · Oct 13, 2024

NICETRY said:
Kitamura, Hyundai, and a new Micro Dynamics.

I'm kind of shocked he's machining stuff himself? I figured that would be contracted.

oldrifleman · Oct 13, 2024

BuildingConceptsllc said:
I'm kind of shocked he's machining stuff himself? I figured that would be contracted.

If he knows he has volume ( other projects?) and can keep them running it makes sense. If all he has is the current projects, I agree that out sourcing for a bunch of batch size lots of parts makes far more sense.

NICETRY · Oct 13, 2024

BuildingConceptsllc said:
I'm kind of shocked he's machining stuff himself? I figured that would be contracted.

It’s the best way to maintain quality and hold the tolerances he requires. Anything requiring turning is outsourced but hopefully after the first batch goes out he can start looking to bring that in house as well.

Tokay444 · Oct 13, 2024

NICETRY said:
It’s the best way to maintain quality and hold the tolerances he requires.

That isn’t even close to being true.

BuildingConceptsllc · Oct 13, 2024

I'm sure he has his reasons. Paul is a very smart guy, and it's really cool he has that ability. It was just surprising to me. Really excited to use the new system! Thanks for the update @NICETRY

Maurygold · Oct 13, 2024

NICETRY said:
It’ll make it. Hopefully by this time next week there will be 3 cnc machines cranking out the aluminum parts. Getting the 3 cnc machines going has not been without its challenges even the new one Paul purchased because his other machines were giving him fits. I believe most of the printed parts are done.

WAIT A SECOND!!! He has been telling people they were going to come out a month ago and didn't even have the fucking machines to make the parts until now. That is unbelievable.

At some point, these aren't mystery delays; they are just downright deceitful to the people waiting to buy one - Paul knew months ago he didn't even have the machines to make the parts, yet keep telling everyone fake deadlines to keep them engaged. This keeps getting worse, and I continue to lose my faith in this company having any sustainable future despite the one product it has being very good.

JR1200W3 · Oct 13, 2024

The way that reads to me is he did have the machines to make the parts but had problems making the parts with them and bought new machines get the orders done. Hence the delay when he thought he'd have the parts done already.

Maurygold · Oct 13, 2024

JR1200W3 said:
The way that reads to me is he did have the machines to make the parts but had problems making the parts with them and bought new machines get the orders done. Hence the delay when he thought he'd have the parts done already.

let's see how that november deadline holds up.

JR1200W3 · Oct 13, 2024

Maurygold said:
let's see how that november deadline holds up.

For some reason when I read that I see crossed arms, a big disapproving frown, a harrumph, about face and a storm off.

Maurygold · Oct 13, 2024

JR1200W3 said:
For some reason when I read that I see crossed arms, a big disapproving frown, a harrumph, about face and a storm off.

If they ship out in November make sure to come back here and tell me about how I was wrong. I hope you get the chance, but I'm quite confident you won't.

JR1200W3 · Oct 13, 2024

Maurygold said:
If they ship out in November make sure to come back here and tell me about how I was wrong. I hope you get the chance, but I'm quite confident you won't.

I never said you were wrong, just childish

Maurygold · Oct 13, 2024

JR1200W3 said:
I never said you were wrong; just childish

been called worse by better. see you in late q1 for that whole unit.

JR1200W3 · Oct 13, 2024

NICETRY · Oct 13, 2024

Maurygold said:
WAIT A SECOND!!! He has been telling people they were going to come out a month ago and didn't even have the fucking machines to make the parts until now. That is unbelievable.

At some point, these aren't mystery delays; they are just downright deceitful to the people waiting to buy one - Paul knew months ago he didn't even have the machines to make the parts, yet keep telling everyone fake deadlines to keep them engaged. This keeps getting worse, and I continue to lose my faith in this company having any sustainable future despite the one product it has being very good.

He just purchased a new machine that should be cranking out parts next week. He has had two other machines but one had a spindle go out recently and why he purchased a new one. But don’t you worry the other machine is back up and running.

NICETRY · Oct 13, 2024

Tokay444 said:
That isn’t even close to being true.

While you can outsource parts and get quality you’re also paying a lot for that. Making parts in house gives you more control over the quality and higher profit margins.so yes my statement was true and accurate.

Smokenaces · Oct 13, 2024

After missing a few V3 listing this week, I had a break through moment in my powder trickling delima while patiently waiting my payment email. Sitting in my thinking chair I recalled how my ex "metered" her output (put-out) and it dawned on me how to replicate. Few clicks on Amazon to find just the product, an Angel Youngs version. Can report no over throw. Of course, only one round load before I had some explaining why I had a loaded fleshlight in the reloading room.

Tokay444 · Oct 13, 2024

NICETRY said:
While you can outsource parts and get quality you’re also paying a lot for that. Making parts in house gives you more control over the quality and higher profit margins.so yes my statement was true and accurate.

That isn’t what you said at all. Your statement made no mention of financials. Your statement, as worded, made it sound like this guy is the only one in the world capable of making a part to print.

vh20 · Oct 13, 2024

I think he was saying, “best way (business-wise) to maintain quality and hold the tolerances he desires,” not that no one else could do it physically. That’s how I understood it to begin with, even before the clarification, because it wouldn’t make sense to suggest that no one else is capable of making the part.

Bevo · Oct 13, 2024

2 pages of useful information in this thread. 41 pages of bitching and bickering.

Also, is it February yet? I’d like to place my order.

Maurygold · Oct 14, 2024

Bevo said:
2 pages of useful information in this thread. 41 pages of bitching and bickering.

Also, is it February yet? I’d like to place my order.

let me go check on other well-working products with 40 pages of bitching........... all I could find was Labrador. How did that work out for them?

it's almost like listening to your consumers and then improving based on that input is a good idea - and the universal trend in this thread is realistic and timely updates on the products (which still isn't close to happening)

But thanks for coming in here and forming an opinion with zero skin in the game.

Baron23 · Oct 14, 2024

Maurygold said:
let me go check on other well-working products with 40 pages of bitching........... all I could find was Labrador. How did that work out for them?

it's almost like listening to your consumers and then improving based on that input is a good idea - and the universal trend in this thread is realistic and timely updates on the products (which still isn't close to happening)

But thanks for coming in here and forming an opinion with zero skin in the game.

What fucking “skin” do you have in this game, Maury?

Maurygold · Oct 14, 2024

Baron23 said:
What fucking “skin” do you have in this game, Maury?

The 6+ months I was lied to while waiting for the trickler I had a deposit on.............. sorry @Baron23

mynamejeff · Oct 14, 2024

If they got CNC's coming online "within weeks" to produce parts they're definitely not meeting the end of November timeline. Mark it. See yall in 2025.

BuildingConceptsllc · Oct 14, 2024

mynamejeff said:
If they got CNC's coming online "within weeks" to produce parts they're definitely not meeting the end of November timeline. Mark it. See yall in 2025.

Pretty sure he said "by this time next week, should have 3 cnc machines running" and "I believe all other parts are printed already" or something like that...

mynamejeff · Oct 14, 2024

BuildingConceptsllc said:
Pretty sure he said "by this time next week, should have 3 cnc machines running" and "I believe all other parts are printed already" or something like that...

See ya in 2025

NICETRY · Oct 14, 2024

Tokay444 said:
That isn’t what you said at all. Your statement made no mention of financials. Your statement, as worded, made it sound like this guy is the only one in the world capable of making a part to print.

First I didn’t say anything about printing. When someone was surprised he machines the parts himself instead of shopping it out, I said it’s best way for Paul to maintain the quality and tolerances required. Now maybe I need to go in depth more as to why, but I think most here get it.

oldrifleman · Oct 14, 2024

NICETRY said:
First I didn’t say anything about printing. When someone was surprised he machines the parts himself instead of shopping it out, I said it’s best way for Paul to maintain the quality and tolerances required. Now maybe I need to go in depth more as to why, but I think most here get it.

Actually most of use are used towaiting and will be ready when we get the mail, the others will also pay the piper but want to act like Whiny 4yr olds waiting for their dinner.

Tokay444 · Oct 14, 2024

NICETRY said:
First I didn’t say anything about printing. When someone was surprised he machines the parts himself instead of shopping it out, I said it’s best way for Paul to maintain the quality and tolerances required. Now maybe I need to go in depth more as to why, but I think most here get it.

I also didn't say anything about printing.

BuildingConceptsllc · Oct 14, 2024

I said something about printing and I was referencing this part of a post.

" I believe most of the printed parts are done."

This stuff has gotten out of hand. I was just surprised Paul was cnc-ing stuff himself. I think it's cool. The over criticism of every little thing has just gotten out of hand here. Everyone wanted updates, and the guy comes in and gives updates, then gets beat up about it. I get it that some are frustrated, and that expectations were set and then were not met, but given all the other things going on in the world this is really getting silly.

oldrifleman · Oct 14, 2024

BuildingConceptsllc said:
I said something about printing and I was referencing this part of a post.

" I believe most of the printed parts are done."

This stuff has gotten out of hand. I was just surprised Paul was cnc-ing stuff himself. I think it's cool. The over criticism of every little thing has just gotten out of hand here. Everyone wanted updates, and the guy comes in and gives updates, then gets beat up about it. I get it that some are frustrated, and that expectations were set and then were not met, but given all the other things going on in the world this is really getting silly.

Totally agree, Paul at this point can’t do anything without getting snark from the peanut gallery. I appreciate the hard work that goes into this. I hope he does not take the snarky comments too seriously as they have gotten out of control.

NICETRY · Oct 14, 2024

Tokay444 said:
I also didn't say anything about printing.

Tokay444 said:
That isn’t what you said at all. Your statement made no mention of financials. Your statement, as worded, made it sound like this guy is the only one in the world capable of making a part to print.

Part to print?

oldrifleman · Oct 14, 2024

Machining to a provided "drawing"/set of dimensions (could be a cad model). shops bid on building to a "drawing" for a set number of units in a time frame for a set price.

Evintos · Oct 14, 2024

NICETRY said:
Part to print?

That's "print" as in engineering blueprint in short form, also known as technical drawings.

NICETRY · Oct 14, 2024

Evintos said:
That's "print" as in engineering blueprint in short form, also known as technical drawings.

Fair enough. I would have used part to specs but yeah. But I still stand by my statement it’s far easier to manage the process doing it in house.

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