No, Paul said long ago that he wasn’t going to release it and start shipping until he had the first batch of 1000 ready to go
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This is just plain mean
Not funny, mean
Like calling your wife and telling her you found her mom dead
“Just kidding!”
Yeah he almost got me with that one. Not cool at all
Yea relax we got another 6 months at least geez!
Both my resin and FDM printer are standing by and my Fusion 360 skills are ready.
Just a heads up yall, I recently got a V3 Autotrickler to compliment my IP trickler. This means the full IP system will be shipping soon. You're welcome.
Thanks for speeding it up for us
We're busy constantly checking our inboxes for the expected IP invoice since the powder dropper is shipping in "two weeks".
Still too early for the I told you so parade......... even though we are on deadline number 3? 4?
Maury getting dressed for his I told you so parade, reeking of onions....
What about all these parts that we learned were not ordered till after the last deadline, and the new CNC machines?
I'm feeling very good about my decision to buy a V3 AT to pair with my IP. I'm sure I'll enjoy it for a while
I’m just waiting for his Black Friday sale to drop…
This is exactly what I just did.I'm feeling very good about my decision to buy a V3 AT to pair with my IP. I'm sure I'll enjoy it for a while
I did this out of curiosity because I forgot I have a V3 AT collecting dust. Was surprised how the IP performed. Not that I dislike my ST, but at least the V3 IP doesn’t feel like I’m starting an aircraft to use it.I'm feeling very good about my decision to buy a V3 AT to pair with my IP. I'm sure I'll enjoy it for a while
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They posted a video of some parts being made a couple of weeks ago on Facebook.
Seems like a slow process.
Seems like a slow process.
Just so you know the news: today, 11/16/2024, we are closer than we have ever been - EVER - to the release of the IPTS
I've been watching this thread hoping you guys start getting your IPTS because I'm way down the line, my order # is 29250. If you early order guys get your by the end of November dead line that means I might get mine in January or February .
Im just aiming to get my day 1 order in 2025 sometime. Starting to set realistic expectations.
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Interesting that he made the decision to start shipping during the US Ramadan season. If they don’t start shipping this week, I don’t see anything shipping until next year.
Even *IF* he began shipping today....
On the FB page he said he "hopes to be able to assemble and ship 50 units per day" Hopes.
Even if he can do that, that's 3 solid weeks of workdays to get out the first 1000 orders. If you and your crew don't work 7-day weeks, it's 4 weeks for the first 1000.
And I'm here to tell you, I doubt he can ship 50 per day.
Figure it takes nominally an hour to piece everything together and box it up, label it, etc. Could vary based on experience, maturity, work ethic, intelligence of the assembler/packager. One of these dudes could do 12 per day. If I'm wrong and you can do the whole shebang - assembly, testing, packaging, labelling, record keeping - then 24 per day. So you need a crew of 2-4 competent people devoted just to shipping existing pre-orders to get out 50 per day.
Do the math on that, and if you're number 500 of the first wave of "pre-orders" you're still looking at 2025, unless Paul surprises us and has a crew of seasonal employees already lined up and waiting for this to begin. And imagine those guys, waiting to go to work full time shipping IPTS orders. Delay, delay, delay - now working for a Tyson chicken operation. Wanna start during T-giving? Now you're competing with all the holiday temp/surge workers as alluded to above.
I'm not holding my breath.
On the FB page he said he "hopes to be able to assemble and ship 50 units per day" Hopes.
Even if he can do that, that's 3 solid weeks of workdays to get out the first 1000 orders. If you and your crew don't work 7-day weeks, it's 4 weeks for the first 1000.
And I'm here to tell you, I doubt he can ship 50 per day.
Figure it takes nominally an hour to piece everything together and box it up, label it, etc. Could vary based on experience, maturity, work ethic, intelligence of the assembler/packager. One of these dudes could do 12 per day. If I'm wrong and you can do the whole shebang - assembly, testing, packaging, labelling, record keeping - then 24 per day. So you need a crew of 2-4 competent people devoted just to shipping existing pre-orders to get out 50 per day.
Do the math on that, and if you're number 500 of the first wave of "pre-orders" you're still looking at 2025, unless Paul surprises us and has a crew of seasonal employees already lined up and waiting for this to begin. And imagine those guys, waiting to go to work full time shipping IPTS orders. Delay, delay, delay - now working for a Tyson chicken operation. Wanna start during T-giving? Now you're competing with all the holiday temp/surge workers as alluded to above.
I'm not holding my breath.
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I just placed a pre-order. I don't mind waiting. I am just getting backing into shooting after a six year hiatus. I just built a custom rifle and worked up a load for it. My chargemaster, with reprogramming and the McDonalds straw hack, took 170 attempts to get 100 drops without overshoot. I started researching for options. It seems that there are issues with all the systems out there. I'm glad I didn't see this thread before I ordered! I appreciate the angst. But, heck, it's taken 7 months to get the components for my build and I am still waiting for a brake. I can use the ol' chargemaster a little longer....
I appreciate the angst. But, heck, it's taken 7 months to get the components for my build and I am still waiting for a brake. I can use the ol' chargemaster a little longer....Get a hand trickler stop your charge master early and hand trickle up to the weight you want while you wait. You won’t have as many over throws at least.I just placed a pre-order. I don't mind waiting. I am just getting backing into shooting after a six year hiatus. I just built a custom rifle and worked up a load for it. My chargemaster, with reprogramming and the McDonalds straw hack, took 170 attempts to get 100 drops without overshoot. I started researching for options. It seems that there are issues with all the systems out there. I'm glad I didn't see this thread before I ordered!
While you're waiting (I'm waiting too, BTW), you might try this with your ChargeMaster:I just placed a pre-order. I don't mind waiting. I am just getting backing into shooting after a six year hiatus. I just built a custom rifle and worked up a load for it. My chargemaster, with reprogramming and the McDonalds straw hack, took 170 attempts to get 100 drops without overshoot. I started researching for options. It seems that there are issues with all the systems out there. I'm glad I didn't see this thread before I ordered!
I took a clear straw and cut it long so it'd go all the way back to the inside of the ChargeMaster tube with a little bit hanging out the front. By having it go all the way back, how much or how fast the granules of powder are fed through the tube can be controlled by moving the straw in or out changing the gap that the powder can enter into the tube. Having some of the straw stick out the front, I can see if large amount is about to fall into the pan that'll result in an overthrow. But I would set it up so that doesn't happen and if anything, I set it up to underthrow a little, where I'll then lightly tap the straw to trickle up to the weight I'm after. It looks like this:
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^ it is the constant fiddling and workarounds that has us all waiting anxiously for the IPTS
I am fortunate that another member sold me an AutoTrickler V2.75 to get me through the gap between my ATV4 and my ST both which required too much fiddling. I realized tonight that while I like the ATV2, It really is essential that all of the components be kind of held in an integrated contraption. I hope the IPTS satisfies this need, and requires little fiddling. When I go to my ATv2.75, I looked to see how far the plunger was screwed in or out from the last session and I just cringe if it’s in a position that I’m gonna have to fuck around with to get the bulk drop set up same with angling the trickler. and then I’m always worried about stretching the cords when I go to empty it. I know this seems like a petty first world problem, but it’s these little things that impede your workflow that really start nag you after a while.
We just really want something that you can set up easily and push one button and not have to fiddle with screws and tilts and straws and all of that stuff.
Seems easy I know, but apparently it is not at all
Fingers crossed for the new system
I am fortunate that another member sold me an AutoTrickler V2.75 to get me through the gap between my ATV4 and my ST both which required too much fiddling. I realized tonight that while I like the ATV2, It really is essential that all of the components be kind of held in an integrated contraption. I hope the IPTS satisfies this need, and requires little fiddling. When I go to my ATv2.75, I looked to see how far the plunger was screwed in or out from the last session and I just cringe if it’s in a position that I’m gonna have to fuck around with to get the bulk drop set up same with angling the trickler. and then I’m always worried about stretching the cords when I go to empty it. I know this seems like a petty first world problem, but it’s these little things that impede your workflow that really start nag you after a while.
We just really want something that you can set up easily and push one button and not have to fiddle with screws and tilts and straws and all of that stuff.
Seems easy I know, but apparently it is not at all
Fingers crossed for the new system
Really? This post? After being the biggest high maintenance bitch?
I've tried this too although I did not use that long of a straw. I'll try agin. Thx.
There's some different tips that people make too. A guy on here used to sell these brass or aluminum ones amd I got one and it did help the chargemaster a lot. Not sure if he's still here but I know you can find various ones on ebay.
More hypocritical post from you. You post in here bitching/ crying more than anyone.
Thought I’d drop back in as this thread came to mind today. #28137. Glad to see it’s still alive and well.
I have now moved my estimate to June 2025 2026
