Firing squad this Friday?
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I wonder if they use quality expanding projectiles?
And I guess morbidly curious, what do they shoot em with lol?
And I guess morbidly curious, what do they shoot em with lol?
I guess it depends on how strong a defense team this guy has and if he can get all the stays defense attys usually try to get. Assuming all those are exhausted, then I guess it will happen... the first "Firing Squad" in SC (historically, they were always the Electric Chair).
I still don't understand why the prison systems in death penalty states don't come together collectively and fund a "compound pharmacy" that will produce the needed drugs for them. I think Texas gets their Pentobarbital from a "confidential" compound pharmacy. The original 3 drug cocktail was best but, sadly, I think Sodium Thiopental (Pentothal) is still under patent by Hospira Corp. Florida uses a drug called "Etomidate" as it's unconsciousness drug.
I hope they get it together because, no matter what people say, lethal injection is the most humane method, if it's done properly (i.e if they can establish a proper IV line without it blowing). I don't know why a condemned person isn't evaluated for that a few days prior to the execution. And, if they can't find one, then consider an alternate like Nitrogen hypoxia.
I still don't understand why the prison systems in death penalty states don't come together collectively and fund a "compound pharmacy" that will produce the needed drugs for them. I think Texas gets their Pentobarbital from a "confidential" compound pharmacy. The original 3 drug cocktail was best but, sadly, I think Sodium Thiopental (Pentothal) is still under patent by Hospira Corp. Florida uses a drug called "Etomidate" as it's unconsciousness drug.
I hope they get it together because, no matter what people say, lethal injection is the most humane method, if it's done properly (i.e if they can establish a proper IV line without it blowing). I don't know why a condemned person isn't evaluated for that a few days prior to the execution. And, if they can't find one, then consider an alternate like Nitrogen hypoxia.
I have always heard that it's a shot to the heart with a .30-30. I wish they would go for a headshot instead, but sadly the 8th Amendment prevents cruel and unusual punishment and for some reason society has deemed anything messy to be cruel and unusual.
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They want to hit him, so mil is out. Get with the times
Nitrogen suffocation is probable easier, cheaper and more humane, without any risk that a pharmaceutical company can stop the execution.
From what i read its 308 [TAP] ? flangeable ? 3 shooters into the heart at very close range but no baseball bat to finish him off like he used
I prefer ole sparky. They shake , rattle,and roll that way
Heart shots. Historically, .30-30 from around 1892 to the 1920s in some places. Then .30-06 in some states from the 1920s to the 1980s. .30-30 was still in use until the 1990s in certain areas. Now it is .308. The squad is chosen from a lottery of prison officers. Six men I believe. In most prisons after 1900, the squad is situated behind a veiled box enclosure in a heavy concrete room designated as the firing squad yard. One of the rifles issued to the squad contains a blank cartridge. The rifles are lever or bolt and are already chambered and in battery when handed to the shooters. This follows a centuries-long procedure so that no one in the group would know just who fired the lethal rounds. Up to the 1990s, the shooters rested their rifles on the ledge of the window in their box to fire. Now, the rifles are mounted to stands already aimed at the location where the condemned would be seated and strapped, so the squad merely enters the box, take their assigned positions behind the rifles, and pull the triggers when the order is given.
Correct. At least, that's what they did in Utah. And, for whatever reason, they use lever action rifles. Why, I don't know. Why not "bolt" action?
Supposedly, one of the rifles has a blank, and the rifles are then handed to the team randomly so that no one is supposed to know who actually fired the shots and who had the blank. But I'd have to think they would know, anyway. If they have any knowledge of "recoil," and the difference between a live round and a blank, they'd know.
IIRC, the Chinese used to do the "headshot" with a .22. The officer would come up behind the person unknowingly and shoot them in the head. The problem with headshots is that death is not always guaranteed immediately, as it depends on what part of the brain is impacted. People who "eat their muzzle," shall we say, seem to have the most success at an immediate end. But, obviously, you can't do that in an execution.
It's funny that big pharma has balked at execution. Especially after the covid bullshit and big pharma killing millions.
The answer to the big pharma dilemma is simple. It's been headlines for years and staring them in the face unless it's been bullshit propaganda. Cops and first responders have been dieing just from contact with a street drug called fentanyl. So a nasal spray of fentanyl should do the trick.
The answer to the big pharma dilemma is simple. It's been headlines for years and staring them in the face unless it's been bullshit propaganda. Cops and first responders have been dieing just from contact with a street drug called fentanyl. So a nasal spray of fentanyl should do the trick.
I heard that China does that. .45ACP to the back of the head outside the courthouse after the death sentence and the family gets billed for the cost of the round.
Tie him up. And let the victims relatives beat him to death with a baseball bat.
Yeah and the touchy feelies get all bent out of shape that the USA executes 22 people on average each year.
But they love China!
Numbers from FUSSR are off the charts, too. Have been since long before Lenin!
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Yes. Yes she is.
So this dude chose a firing squad?
Of the 3 option (chair, lethal injection, firing squad) i don't think that would be my pick. While it certainly would be a quick death, I can't imagine it being painless.
I personally would opt for lethal injection. I think...
Fuck all that, a few pounds of fentanyl seized at the border would do it at near zero cost to the taxpayer.
However, most of these folks do not deserve a "humane" method.
I'm all for the whole, do to them what they did to their victims method. You stabbed them 40 times with an ice pick after you rammed a broom stick up their ass, dry? Stand by.
Having a 16% chance that you did not actually fire a live round and kill the perp is some how suppose to help a shooter not feel bad about participating? I am guessing that the men that willingly participate in a firing squad are sturdy enough to see the justice in the endeavor and not feel bad.
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Alternatively they could just send the person to the hospital. Hospital staff would accidentally kill them within a couple weeks.
Also think how you would feel knowing you were the one that didn't shoot him. How would you live with yourself.
I'm mostly joking. But just think about the new guy on the firing squad (Farva). Damnit they never give me a live round!
Take a few shots but would get there eventually.
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That whole Nitrogen thing is not a good idea, it's a great way to torture somebody to death.
I'm not sure why they have such problems finding drugs, I mean can't they just go out on the street and get a couple bags of Fentanyl ?
I mean it's not like Fentanyl isn't everywhere around thanks to the Chinese and Mexicans.
Seems pretty straightforward.
I forget the name of the gas, but how about the gas that has the opposite effect as helium?
Just hang'em like in the old days, just make damn sure they're guilty, too many have been found to be falsely convicted lately.
So you say. Being a SCUBA diver, I have a bit of knowledge/experience on the effects of excessive Nitrogen on the body. It actually has a "narcotic" like effect. One gets "narced" if they dive too deeply on just "air." It would seem that the condemned also gets "narced" before passing out. Not as humane as lethal injection, but definitely not "torture."
No, they can't. The drugs have to be "Commercial Grade" and come from a reputable company or compound pharmacy. They have to be tested as much as possible to ensure they work correctly. They can't use "street fentanyl" as they cannot guarantee its purity. If they did, and something were to happen to the condemned (i.e they suffer before they die), the corrections people could be sued silly. For the same reason, they also have to establish and maintain sterility when starting the IV lines. just in case the execution is called off just prior to them pushing the drugs.
They should drop the hammer on an empty chamber first go around
Oh, they know. I'm sure of it. If they have any knowledge of/experience with recoil, they'll know who had the blank. Maybe not before the shots, but certainly after them.
20 years screwing around with lawyers and judges? there is the problem.
Firing squad is a waste of money.
It’s backwards ROI, cheap up front
How many “shooters” will sue for govt aid because they have mental issues stemming from killing someone..even if they aren’t the one who pulled the trigger
Spend the 20k and zap them, one time cost
It’s backwards ROI, cheap up front
How many “shooters” will sue for govt aid because they have mental issues stemming from killing someone..even if they aren’t the one who pulled the trigger
Spend the 20k and zap them, one time cost
As far as entertainment? FreonI forget the name of the gas, but how about the gas that has the opposite effect as helium?
No. it's a gas that makes your voice a lot lower as opposed to helium making it higher. I know Alan Rickman and Morgan Freeman went on Conan O'Brien and he had balloons with both gases in them. They had fun on the show with them.
So I just read that South Carolina spent 54K on a special bullet proof glass room and chair, same place they have their electric chair - where three rifles w/ .308 @ 15ft. will have apertures. He will have a target over his heart, be seated, but head facing witnesses.
Edit: Now which PRS comp. will use this for a stage.
Edit: Now which PRS comp. will use this for a stage.
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Have the firing squad, put it on pay-per-view. Use what's left of the proceeds after funding the stream to start paying down the deficit. Make this a regular thing. We can expand later with drawing and quartering, hangings, and others.
Oddly enough, both pro and anti death penalty folks want executions to be public/televised again. The "pro" side for obvious reasons and the anti side to discourage pro death penalty support by showing how "cruel and unusual" the punishments are.
nothing "unusual" about capital punishment. been pretty common for 10-20K years. unusual in today's spineless world.
