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16-18 inch shorty rifles
- Thread starter DrDeath
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Dunno really, i imagine if cut to the same length quite a bit, but this was in no way going to be an expensive build. I started running the numbers on a short barreled 6.5x47L with 120/123 pills at 2750/2800 and it pretty much exceeds my 308 @ 20" pushing 178gr BTHP at 2630 with a max load, in everything but energy. I have a friend who has a lathe and shop setup who's prices are generous. So i could have it spun up without being out of too much money before hunting season, then send it to kampfield for flutes and cerakote.
Here are a few of my 16" and 18" rifles. I have not shot the DT yet but this week I will be.
REM 700 308 Manner TA rifle stock Nightorce F1 and a Silencerco Omega.
REM 700 Bartlein Barrels 18" with a USO ST10 10x.
DT SRSA1 COVERT Rifle .308WIN 16", Premier Heritage 3-15x50mm, and Silencerco Omega.
REM 700 308 Manner TA rifle stock Nightorce F1 and a Silencerco Omega.
REM 700 Bartlein Barrels 18" with a USO ST10 10x.
DT SRSA1 COVERT Rifle .308WIN 16", Premier Heritage 3-15x50mm, and Silencerco Omega.
I love that black 16" 308, and if you transplanted the ST10 I would be obsessed. People forget about classic black on Custom Rifles, and a 16" folding chassis 308 with a ST10 has always been a favorite platform of mine
AO built 6.5x47
R700 trued up
Timney 510
Firing pin bushed
Manners EH-4, mini chassis
Brux #5, 1-8" @ 18" threaded 5/8
VX-6, 3-18x50
Handy deer killer
R700 trued up
Timney 510
Firing pin bushed
Manners EH-4, mini chassis
Brux #5, 1-8" @ 18" threaded 5/8
VX-6, 3-18x50
Handy deer killer
What bullet are you shooting and what velocity are you getting?
Set it up to run the 130 vlds.
Current load is running 130 vlds 2700-2715 with H4350 and is super accurate. There is probably a higher node, but no need to push it for what I need. Worked up to 2850+ with RL-17 but the accuracy wasn't quite there.
I do have a very good load with the nosler 120 BT, running 2875 with RL-17. Haven't tried any 140's yet.
16.5" 260 CTR in GRS Berserk, CDI bm w/3-12 LRHS, barrel shortened/threaded and bolt fluted by LRI
. Have any of y'all looked at or does one in a 6.5saum/gap4s? I didn't see any in the last few pages. I've got the itch to do one in a 16 inch and thought it would be easy to still keep speeds at 2800+ without really pushing the gun. And still shoot 140s plus I plan to run it suppressed. It's something that wouldn't get shot a lot just playing every now and then and shooting coyotes and deer. So not worried a ton about barrel life. Any reason to or to not do a saum over a creedmoor or x47?
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While i think it sounds good in theory to still have the velocity numbers due to the cartridge capability i just think it's too short as the gains probably wouldn't be that substantial, even with the additional powder capacity. Probably wasting a lot of powder.
Yup. Stuffing your suppressor full of burning H1000.
I'm sure it can be done. If you follow the rule of thumb of 25fps per inch and cut down from normal 24-28" speeds, you're in about that range 2750-2900fps for a 16-18" barrel. But you also gotta figure you're burning 60 grains of H1000, where a 6.5x47 would be using more like 40 grains of H4350. It would be much slower and/or using lighter bullets with lower BC. Just personal preference as to whether 20 grains of powder and $1.50/ea brass is worth a couple fewer clicks on the turret.
I have a 28" 6.5 SAUM and it is not cheap to feed coming from .260's and 6.5 Grendels.
I'm sure it can be done. If you follow the rule of thumb of 25fps per inch and cut down from normal 24-28" speeds, you're in about that range 2750-2900fps for a 16-18" barrel. But you also gotta figure you're burning 60 grains of H1000, where a 6.5x47 would be using more like 40 grains of H4350. It would be much slower and/or using lighter bullets with lower BC. Just personal preference as to whether 20 grains of powder and $1.50/ea brass is worth a couple fewer clicks on the turret.
I have a 28" 6.5 SAUM and it is not cheap to feed coming from .260's and 6.5 Grendels.
I stupidly enough didn't even think about all the powder not being burned by the time it got to the suppressor. I'm not a fan of that. The other parts I wouldn't really care cause like stated it wouldn't really be shot much anyways just thought it would be cool looking and something fun but I may just go with x47 or I've been wanting to rebarrel my 6.5 cm competition gun into a 6x47 so I may just do it earlier and use the brass I've still got from my creedmoor for that gun
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Really somewhat surprised Lapua hasn't manufactured any 6x47 brass. I think it would be the 6mm cartridge to have if they did so. Of course i'm a huge fan of the 6.5x47 as well so somewhat biased.
I stupidly enough didn't even think about all the powder not being burned by the time it got to the suppressor. I'm not a fan of that. The other parts I wouldn't really care cause like stated it wouldn't really be shot much anyways just thought it would be cool looking and something fun but I may just go with x47 or I've been wanting to rebarrel my 6.5 cm competition gun into a 6x47 so I may just do it earlier and use the brass I've still got from my creedmoor for that gun
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Only a 22lr but I love it.
CZ455 Precision Trainer 16.5” threaded factory barrel, Manners stock, Area 419 15 MOA rail, Sightron SIII 10-50x60, aftermarket bolt.
It’s a tack driver.
CZ455 Precision Trainer 16.5” threaded factory barrel, Manners stock, Area 419 15 MOA rail, Sightron SIII 10-50x60, aftermarket bolt.
It’s a tack driver.
Re: 16-18 inch shorty rifles
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This barrel fluting is outstanding
I have 14-18 inch barrel set-ups in a lot of cartridges: 22 Creed, 6 Dasher, 6mm Long Dasher, 6x45, 6x47, 6x47 Lapua, 243 Winchester, 6XC, 6 Creed, 6.5x47 Lapua, 260 Remington, 6.5 Creed, 6.5-284, WSM, SAUM, 6.5-06, soon to be a 6.5 Nosler, 7-08, 284 Winchester, 7mm Rem Mag Improved, 7 SAUM, 7 WSM, 7 LRM, 7 Dakota...........etc., etc., etc....
Choose a certain barrel length you want, then choose the performance level you want (FPS with a said bullet weight), and then just go up in chambering size until you get what you want....It is that simple
Choose a certain barrel length you want, then choose the performance level you want (FPS with a said bullet weight), and then just go up in chambering size until you get what you want....It is that simple
Rem 700 (6.5 Creedmoor)
18” Bartlein barrel cerakoted in Graphite Black
Area 419 Brake
KRG XRAY chassis cerakoted in SIG Dark Grey
Here is my 18inch .223 build
Bighorn TL3
KRG Whiskey 3
Bartlien Medium Palma .223
Timney Trigger
Area 419 Muzzle Brake
Eotech Vudu 3.18.50
Bighorn TL3
KRG Whiskey 3
Bartlien Medium Palma .223
Timney Trigger
Area 419 Muzzle Brake
Eotech Vudu 3.18.50
My other shorty...
Rem 700 in a Manners T2 cerakoted Woodland
Bartlein barreled action in custom OD Green
Badger Ordnance EFR
Surefire muzzle brake
Leupold 4-16 LRP in Badger Ordnance rings
Rem 700 in a Manners T2 cerakoted Woodland
Bartlein barreled action in custom OD Green
Badger Ordnance EFR
Surefire muzzle brake
Leupold 4-16 LRP in Badger Ordnance rings
Awesome looking rifle! How do you like that compact Manners stock? I've been eyeing that one for my next build but I'd like to know how the cheek weld works since there's no riser
Yeah the CZ 455 is a great 22LR mine is very accurate and fun to shoot. It likes Wolf MT but I really should try some Lapua.
17" on the SAUM and 18" on both 6.5 WSM's. I will need to go check my MV's on the WSM's as I have shot both 130 Berger's and a variety of 140 class bullets.
My load data is not here. Load room is not at my house.
16.5". Only shot it a few times off a bench with factory Prime and Copper Creek ammo, and it does well. I've not worked up a load, and my groups are easy sub moa. I could probably do better but I'm only using a 9x scope. With a Ti can, this thing is still quite portable. Check weld is okay, but I recommend trying this stock for anything you'll spend much time behind.
This is my hunting rifle this year. Specs below, it also feeds the factory ammo out of the pmags well, to save a few more ounces.
RIFLE SPECS:
- Action: Defiance Machine Deviant GA Hunter
- Stock: Manner Composite Stocks Compact Stock Elite
- Barrel: PROOF Research Carbon Fiber 16.5" 6.5 cm
- Trigger: TriggerTech Remington 700 Special
- Bottom Metal: Hawkins Precision M5
What does the bare rifle weigh? Thinking of doing something very similar, but probably in 308win for a truck/deer gun.
I'll put it on the scale, not sure. I think it was still less than 10 with optic and can. You might ask Core. 6.5 cm in that short barrel is effectively a 308 by trajectory, but with less recoil. I like it so far.
As it sits my scale says 8.2. Minus the can, scope and rings it's gotta be closer to 6, maybe less.
Anyone know what stock (forend) wrap that is? I'm looking for something like this but my googlefu sucks.
Not sure if Ive posted in here or not but I know I havent with the new barrel on it
Looks like an SO Tech skid pad. I had one years ago but don’t know if they are still made.
