22 creedmoor

[D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷]

I have a Tikka ctr that I’m about to rebarrel. I’m leaning towards an 18” 22 creedmoor, but all this talk about different twist rates and bullets not stabilizing/blowing up has me a little apprehensive. I live/hunt about 250’ asl in the deep south. Will I be fine with 1:7.5 and the 88 eldm’s, or do you suggest I go with a different twist?

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[Boatninja]

Criterion 22 Creed barrel coming next week. Anybody have suggestionfor loaded ammo? I see copper creek for mucho dinero.

 

[Huckleberry75]

Criterion 22 Creed barrel coming next week. Anybody have suggestionfor loaded ammo? I see copper creek for mucho dinero.

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[parshal]

Been shooting the Berger 85.5's looking for a good load. I've found some accuracy but, today, I had jackets coming apart between 3302 and 3370 over three different charges. You can actually hear the bullet come apart due to the suppressor. I had the 82's over 3500 with no separation.

Anyone else experience this?

 

[Dschapp44]

Been shooting the Berger 85.5's looking for a good load. I've found some accuracy but, today, I had jackets coming apart between 3302 and 3370 over three different charges. You can actually hear the bullet come apart due to the suppressor. I had the 82's over 3500 with no separation.

Anyone else experience this?

I had 88s explode on me and had some 95s as well due to a carbon ring and I was over 3200 FPS. I think its the difference in the jacket thickness

 

[parshal]

I'm calling Berger on Monday and asking what the deal is. I may try the 80.5 fullbore and see what happens. I really liked the 82.

 

[Dschapp44]

I got the 80.5s up around 3400 and they held together. Grouped great at 300 yards too

 

[Kjb1796]

What barrel twist rate on those 85.5 Bergers that are coming apart?

 

[parshal]

8 twist. I called Berger. The guy wasn't shocked by the 85.5's coming apart at >3500 but was very surprised that I had 82's going over 3500 with no issue. He was going to check with the engineers and see if they've had any reported issues. Although, to be fair, they're so new I might be the first one.

 

[Buzzbee]

Anyone have any data with the 88gr ELD-M’s? Picked up a 100 of them and have some 4350 I’m thinkin of trying. If there’s a different powder I should try, plz let me know!

also need this data please

 

[Dschapp44]

also need this data please

42.5 grains of H1000 gave me 3167fps with the 88.

 

[Buzzbee]

Hey, dumb question

been dealing with health issues and laziness, havent shot my .22 C with new test loads yet.

How do you know when a bullet comes apart, sound, no holes on the target? I will shoot surressed, will the bullet come apart inside the suppresor and damage it ??? Omega 30 can

 

[big_matt_duq]

I have a 24 inch 7 twist proof blank on the bench and was wondering if the old 75 amax and the 75, 80, or 88 eldms would hold together or if I should try to get an 8 twist? I do tend to hunt in the cold and about 2200 DA a bit as well.

 

[parshal]

Mine came apart on the way to 100 yards. You could hear it and nothing on the target or surrounding dirt.

 

[Dschapp44]

Hey, dumb question

been dealing with health issues and laziness, havent shot my .22 C with new test loads yet.

How do you know when a bullet comes apart, sound, no holes on the target? I will shoot surressed, will the bullet come apart inside the suppresor and damage it ??? Omega 30 can

It happens after the first 20 yards and before 100 yards normally. Nothing on target an a faint Small Greyish cloud will show up for a couple seconds

 

[Buzzbee]

90gr A-TIP, anyone please share their good loads for this bullet. Got 1-7 twist Proof

thanks

 

[Boatninja]

90gr A-TIP, anyone please share their good loads for this bullet. Got 1-7 twist Proof

thanks

Just curious what length? I should have a 26¨coming in this week, am curious too. I have Sierras.

 

[Ranger188]

Here is a video of a 90g Berger coming apart.
Video won't load, but here is the stopped frame.
You see the powder and the little white dot, bullet blowing up.

 

[Buzzbee]

Just curious what length? I should have a 26¨coming in this week, am curious too. I have Sierras.

24" (picture is my Avatar)

 

[JCKustoms]

Been shooting the Berger 85.5's looking for a good load. I've found some accuracy but, today, I had jackets coming apart between 3302 and 3370 over three different charges. You can actually hear the bullet come apart due to the suppressor. I had the 82's over 3500 with no separation.

Anyone else experience this?

Not sure what to tell you, but I have had zero issues with the Berger 85.5’s out of my 26” 8 twist. I’m on my third box of these. I run 40.5 grains of RL17 and they are 3380-3400fps (with suppressor). I’ve worked them out to 800yds so far with amazing results.

 

[JCKustoms]

I have a 24 inch 7 twist proof blank on the bench and was wondering if the old 75 amax and the 75, 80, or 88 eldms would hold together or if I should try to get an 8 twist? I do tend to hunt in the cold and about 2200 DA a bit as well.

I’m usually hunting at 3400-4500 asl with humidity below 30% almost all of the time with temps below 40. With that said, my 8 Twist does really well with the 75 and 80 eldm’s. I get some of my best groups with the 75’s on 37.0 grains of Varget @ 3410fps. The 80’s perform well too with 43.8 grains of Superformance and are about 3520fps.

 

[JCKustoms]

Here is my current setup...

 

[big_matt_duq]

I’m usually hunting at 3400-4500 asl with humidity below 30% almost all of the time with temps below 40. With that said, my 8 Twist does really well with the 75 and 80 eldm’s. I get some of my best groups with the 75’s on 37.0 grains of Varget @ 3410fps. The 80’s perform well too with 43.8 grains of Superformance and are about 3520fps.

I ended up getting a 22" 8 twist and trading off my 7 twist. Was worried it would start popping pills down the road.

 

[big_matt_duq]

What dies are you guys using?

 

[Dschapp44]

What dies are you guys using?

Whidden Dies with the non bushing sizer

 

[big_matt_duq]

I don't want to neck turn. Could I get away with fl sizing starline 6 creed or should I try to get gunwerks, peterson, or alpha if i can find it?
Thanks

 

[JCKustoms]

I don't want to neck turn. Could I get away with fl sizing starline 6 creed or should I try to get gunwerks, peterson, or alpha if i can find it?
Thanks

I primarily use Hornady 22 creed brass and just neck size with my hornady ns die (bolt gun). But I also use Hornady 6 creed brass full length sized in my Hornady fl die and trimmed down to length. Both work just fine for me. No issues with either.

 

[Boatninja]

I bought 240 rounds of Copper Creek in various weights to try out, then decide on loading or not, Criterion barrel due to in tomorrow, hope it shows up.

 

[Boatninja]

I bought 240 rounds of Copper Creek in various weights to try out, then decide on loading or not, Criterion barrel due to in tomorrow, hope it shows up.

Not sure what brass they are using, I will look at it a little closer.

 

[Buzzbee]

24" (picture is my Avatar)

Finnally got to test, mixed emotions an the 7828ssc and H4831ssc . 95SMK shot good but isnt it slow even for a 20" barrel? RL-26 was a little faster. I'm not a speedfreak, love accuracy.






These deformed bullets from tight neck seating shot fine at least at 100 yards

 

[Landon4]

Not sure what brass they are using, I will look at it a little closer.

The copper creek 22 creed ammo I bought is using hornady brass but I believe you can have them loaded in alpha as well.

 

[Buzzbee]

Running 90gr Berger with rl26 with pretty good luck. Had 2 nodes at 3350 and one at 3096. Running a 25" Broughton 7 twist.

what powder charges are working with the 90gr?? thanks

 

[big_matt_duq]

Thanks guys. Got a 6 creed forster seating die and a whidden 22 creed non bushing die coming. Went with hornady brass to start since I will probably loose a bunch hunting.

 

[Nortex]

what powder charges are working with the 90gr?? thanks

Want to say I was around 43.5 on the higher node but I'm not around my notes at the moment.

 

[Dogsniper]

When will Redding dies be available? I have my 20” 1-9 twist ready to roll for 65 game kings. Hope to get 3600 fps suppressed with varget or h4895.

 

[Dschapp44]

When will Redding dies be available? I have my 20” 1-9 twist ready to roll for 65 game kings. Hope to get 3600 fps suppressed with varget or h4895.

I talked to redding 2 months ago about something else and asked out of curiosity and they said it’s not anywhere on there radar for future calibers. I hope it changes or if someone else has a positive update I’m happy to say I’m wrong but that’s what I know

 

[big_matt_duq]

Midsouth had some regular full length and neck dies I think.

 

[big_matt_duq]

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[Dschapp44]

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I just googled it and saw that. It’s sketchy on options, but I’m glad they are producing stuff for the 22.

 

[Boatninja]

90 grain Sierra MK's at 3100 fps out of a XP-100 and a 16" barrel with RL26.

Have you ran any other powders wit the SMK"s?

 

[Dschapp44]

Finished my seating depth test and was happy with the result. I was shooting for 3120 since it’s a 6.5 twist barrel but seems to be working ok

 

[Dschapp44]

I shot it against my 22 dasher for anyone that’s curious. 6.5 twist as well and both are finished at 26 inches

 

[Boatninja]

Is anyone shooting 90gr Sierra Matchkings and either H4350 or Staball 6.5? Or any other larger bullets with those powders?

 

[Dschapp44]

Is anyone shooting 90gr Sierra Matchkings and either H4350 or Staball 6.5? Or any other larger bullets with those powders?

The case fill on the H4831sc when i hit pressure with the 95smk was maybe 80% case fill so didn't try anything faster

 

[xpshooter]

Have you ran any other powders wit the SMK"s?

No I haven't, I was pleased with the load and never tried anything else. I'm in the process of having the gun rebarreled so when it returns I plan on trying a few different powders since RL26 is in the land of fairy tales

 

[Huckleberry75]

When will Redding dies be available? I have my 20” 1-9 twist ready to roll for 65 game kings. Hope to get 3600 fps suppressed with varget or h4895.

For the 65, you will want to run Varget instead of the H4350. We run the 69tmk with 39.0gns of Varget and its magic. 3510fps from 20" 9tw. Nearly identical speeds from that load in more than one 20" rifle. You might have to "stand on it" to get the 3600. I would strongly recommend the SRP Lapua brass for that and stay the hell away from Alpha brass, it shows pressure signs way before the Lapua and doesn't give the speed. That is not just my findings either.

 

[Buzzbee]

I just googled it and saw that. It’s sketchy on options, but I’m glad they are producing stuff for the 22.

I bought my dies from Accurate Arms

 

[Buzzbee]

I bought my dies from Accurate Arms

no thats not it. damm i'm not at home to check

 

[Huckleberry75]

Mine are Whidden. Horizon FireArms has then too,I believe. Google 22cm.com

 

[waspocrew]

Anyone here with a 22 Creed built on a Tikka? Thinking of throwing one together to use with CTR mags. If using CTR mags, anyone run into issues with longer projectiles like 90-95 gr SMKs?