Range Report 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

[flyboy]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Went to the store to get my hands on some 208's and R17 and they were sold out of both. Maybe next time.

I'm sure I missed it in the six pages but what are the 20" barrels getting speed wise?

 

[Short-bus]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I'm getting just over 2500fps, i've gotten over 2600, but it's a bit too hot for my taste. 2500 is all that I wanted to get anyway, seems to be in a decent accuracy node for my barrel right now.

Branden

 

[Short-bus]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I chuckle everytime I look at this picture, those 208's make the 175smk's look like little midget bullets.

Headed out tomorrow to run these loads into the steel at 700+. It'll be a perfect day for some long range shooting. It's going to be questionable weather at best. Frustrating winds that'll be 1/4 to 1/2 value, rain here and there, but it'll be in the 50's. I've been fortunate enough to be busy at work and getting some overtime, not too many days off, but that's ok to get the finances back up after some repairs to our furnace. I'm not going to pass up an oppotunity to go out and stretch the legs a bit. Last time I made it out past 100 yards was 11/10/09. I'm taking the video camera, and taking video, it won't be exciting, but it'll be better than a written story and some imagination!

Branden

 

[Short-bus]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

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I popped a milk jug full of water at 700 yards with the 208's, I was certainly impressed.

Branden

 

[Belisarius]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Nice one! Yep, they jump pretty good.

 

[johngfoster]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I'm gonna have to give this combo a try. Sounds very promising.

 

[tansinator]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

tag

 

[Chanonry]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chanonry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Inspired by this thread I got some RL17 and some 200gr Accubonds (no AMAX which is what I will end up shooting) to see whether this was going to work for me.

46.0 to 50.0 in 0.5 gr increments. I loaded to mag length which seems to be about 40 thou off. Stopped at 50 as 'compressed load' was beginning to get silly.

Rifle is a Sako 75 Varmint 308 win 23-1/2" 1:11 twist.

Atmos 1 deg C (~freezing) 75% RH P 1024mB.

Much to my surprise I didn't blow myself up, in fact even at 50 gr I only got mild pressure signs, but it delviered 2600 fps on the nail at the chrony 12ft away. I was a bit concerned about stability but it wasn't a problem.


My experience with reloading and commercial cartridges is that I come up a bit short. So I am hugely impressed with this, 2600 fps behind a 200 gr is a great load. I chrony'd some Federal Vital Shok 150gr SP and it was only delivering 2700 fps MV.


This load would put the 308's performance in excess of Federal's 300WM heavy loads never mind the 30-06. Now if I had one of them what could I do with RL17?

I have a 270 which is now in danger of becoming a 30-06</div></div>

Update:

I loaded 50 off and went to the range. I have to say I wasn't convinced by my compressed load. i didn't feel I got the same tolerance in construction. Having checked them before I fired the length was stable enough. They also shot very well.

 

[Falar]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

My final load ended up being 51gr in new Win cases primed with BR2s and loaded to 2.98" COAL for 2705fps through the factory 24" 1:10" barrel in my Savage 10FCP McMillan.

 

[flyboy]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Thats Moving. Its great that the 308 now has a new pair of legs to stand on with the RE17.

 

[Ginkus]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Montana Marine:
I have a Rem 700 VSSF in 308 win and really love it. I am shooting 1/4" groups with 175 gr SMK. I am reloading and thought I would experiment with the 208 AMAX. I have been informed by various sources that you are the 'Old Salt' on the 208 AMAX.
I am a 'new boot' at this so please bare with my lack of intelligence. I will tell you the direction I am going and you can correct me. I have been limited to Rem LR primer (thank you Democrats); but have Win, Hornady, LC, and Fed brass; and RL17 and IMR 4064 powder.
I have several reloading manuals and none of them have any loads with RL17 or 208 AMAX. So where did you start?
Did you start with the 46gr of RL17?. Could I use IMR 4064 as a substitute (Lyman has the 200 SMK using IMR 4064)?
Your OAL was 3.00, does that fit in the internal magazine?
Do I have to moly coat my rounds?
My goal is to reach 2500 fps, then the 208 AMAX's bullet path will then parallel the 175 SMK.
As I stated earlier I am a 'new boot' at reloading and with Sniper Hide so pardon my ignorance.
Respectfully Submitted
Ginkus Khan

 

[Short-bus]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ginkus Khan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Montana Marine:
I have a Rem 700 VSSF in 308 win and really love it. I am shooting 1/4" groups with 175 gr SMK. I am reloading and thought I would experiment with the 208 AMAX. I have been informed by various sources that you are the 'Old Salt' on the 208 AMAX.
I am a 'new boot' at this so please bare with my lack of intelligence. I will tell you the direction I am going and you can correct me. I have been limited to Rem LR primer (thank you Democrats); but have Win, Hornady, LC, and Fed brass; and RL17 and IMR 4064 powder.
I have several reloading manuals and none of them have any loads with RL17 or 208 AMAX. So where did you start?
Did you start with the 46gr of RL17?. Could I use IMR 4064 as a substitute (Lyman has the 200 SMK using IMR 4064)?
Your OAL was 3.00, does that fit in the internal magazine?
Do I have to moly coat my rounds?
My goal is to reach 2500 fps, then the 208 AMAX's bullet path will then parallel the 175 SMK.
As I stated earlier I am a 'new boot' at reloading and with Sniper Hide so pardon my ignorance.
Respectfully Submitted
Ginkus Khan </div></div>

46.0 is a good starting point for your load, if you want to load mag length at 2.800, then drop down to 44.0 and work up. I load .020" off the lands with 48.0gr, however i'm going to drop to 47.5gr as i'm getting pressure signs still (ejector marks on the brass), but i'm still getting almost 2600fps. My goal was 2500 much like yours, shouldn't be hard to get.

Branden

 

[Falar]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thats Moving. Its great that the 308 now has a new pair of legs to stand on with the RE17. </div></div>

Yep, aside from the 7mm 180gr offerings I think the only way to best the BC of the of the 208gr Amax is to step up to .338 caliber or the 240gr SMK in .30 caliber. Being able to push them out at a decent velocity makes .308 take on a whole new look.

 

[Belisarius]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I shot a couple of loads with 200gr. MK and was very pleased with their performance! 49.0 and 50.0 of RL-17 2750fps and 2800fps respectively. Not even flat primers to my surprise. Winchester brass fed primers. The funny thing, all 4 shots went into one big hole at 100 yards, slightly bigger than what I'd like it to be, but still one hole.

 

[MontanaMarine]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dust_Remover</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ginkus Khan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Montana Marine:
I have a Rem 700 VSSF in 308 win and really love it. I am shooting 1/4" groups with 175 gr SMK. I am reloading and thought I would experiment with the 208 AMAX. I have been informed by various sources that you are the 'Old Salt' on the 208 AMAX.
I am a 'new boot' at this so please bare with my lack of intelligence. I will tell you the direction I am going and you can correct me. I have been limited to Rem LR primer (thank you Democrats); but have Win, Hornady, LC, and Fed brass; and RL17 and IMR 4064 powder.
I have several reloading manuals and none of them have any loads with RL17 or 208 AMAX. So where did you start?
Did you start with the 46gr of RL17?. Could I use IMR 4064 as a substitute (Lyman has the 200 SMK using IMR 4064)?
Your OAL was 3.00, does that fit in the internal magazine?
Do I have to moly coat my rounds?
My goal is to reach 2500 fps, then the 208 AMAX's bullet path will then parallel the 175 SMK.
As I stated earlier I am a 'new boot' at reloading and with Sniper Hide so pardon my ignorance.
Respectfully Submitted
Ginkus Khan </div></div>

46.0 is a good starting point for your load, if you want to load mag length at 2.800, then drop down to 44.0 and work up. I load .020" off the lands with 48.0gr, however i'm going to drop to 47.5gr as i'm getting pressure signs still (ejector marks on the brass), but i'm still getting almost 2600fps. My goal was 2500 much like yours, shouldn't be hard to get.

Branden </div></div>

I'll just add that my max oal for magazine fit is 2.82"

4064 will be faster burning than RL17, so you'll need to start lower (probably around 39-40 gr) and will probably find pressure before getting velocity much over 2400 fps or so.

 

[esorensen]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I've been meaning to try exactly this with the 200 Nosler AB. I believe that might be an eye opener as well. Keep up the good work!

 

[MontanaMarine]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I got the 200AB over 2600 fps, seated to mag length, with the 20.5" bbl. Did some load development with the 200 Sierra Gameking too. Here's the results:

Win brass
20.5" Rem 1/12 bbl.

200 Accubond, moly’d
2.82" OAL
RL-17
48 gr - 2485 fps, very low pressure
50 gr – 2620 fps, full, compressed
-------------------------------------------------------
200gr Sierra Game King BTSP
2.81" OAL
RL-17
50 gr – 2620 fps
51 gr - 2670 fps
51.5 gr – 2700 fps
52 gr – 2730 fps, full, compressed

 

[Ginkus]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Branden and Shane:
Thank you both for your assistance. I have finally read throught this entire thread and feel a little foolish for asking such rudimentary questions. Oh well, adapt, improvise, overcome.
I plan on loading the 208 AMAX with a Remington LR primer (only ones available), fireformed Winchester brass, using a 2.82" OAL. Quickload has calculated I will reach 2502.5 fps at approximately 46gr of RL17. So I will start at 44gr and work up in 1/2gr increments. Will be at the range next weekend.
Again thank you for your time and effort.
R/S
GK

 

[Falar]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MontanaMarine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got the 200AB over 2600 fps, seated to mag length, with the 20.5" bbl. Did some load development with the 200 Sierra Gameking too. Here's the results:

Win brass
20.5" Rem 1/12 bbl.

200 Accubond, moly’d
2.82" OAL
RL-17
48 gr - 2485 fps, very low pressure
50 gr – 2620 fps, full, compressed
-------------------------------------------------------
200gr Sierra Game King BTSP
2.81" OAL
RL-17
50 gr – 2620 fps
51 gr - 2670 fps
51.5 gr – 2700 fps
52 gr – 2730 fps, full, compressed


</div></div>

With those two hunting bullets at those speeds it looks like you could take any game on this continent.

 

[esorensen]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Agreed. I don't mind the "match" bullets for hunting, but I'm just thinking ahead for times when one or the other may not be available.

 

[flyboy]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

With these numbers, I'm getting more excited about the 308 chambering. Convincing a guide of the performance might be another story thou.

 

[mdesign]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Really like this thread but don't have a 308. I bought some RL17 power and when I get my 7-08 up and running I'm going to see how it works in the 7mm version with 162 Amax.

Noticed the earlier comments on the Swiss being picky about component quality, maybe this is why RL15&17 are the only two RL powders that are rated as temperature consistent.

 

[Falar]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With these numbers, I'm getting more excited about the 308 chambering. Convincing a guide of the performance might be another story thou. </div></div>

I've been to the Alaska Fish and Game site and they recommend .30-06 with 200+gr bullets for Brown bear. Their reasoning is that they'd rather you bring an '06 and hit your target than miss with the newest Ultra Magnum. The 200gr loads posted in this thread exceed factory '06 200gr loads, I guess the guide would have to accept the fact that your handloads weren't dangerous.

http://www.wildlife.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=hunting.firearms

 

[FNARSHOOTER]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Has anyone loaded any 208 to the standard OAL (2.750)?I would like to try them in My FNAR 1/12 twist 20" hbar It shoots MOA or better with 175 SMK . I am loading LC once fired so I'm already going to drop the charge do to thick brass.Sounds like 3.00 OAL is what is working with RL 17 may have to try another powder so I don't run out of room. Any Ideas?
Scot

 

[OutlawTen5]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

tag

 

[Short-bus]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I had talked to another member on here through PM about mag length 208's, and I deleted it some time ago. I do remember that the powder charges were much lower than most of us are using just due to the significantly reduced case capacity. I believe he was in the 44.0-45.0gr RL17 range. I've been wanting to do some experimentation, but i'm spending the summer shooting season using 175SMK's.

Branden

 

[FNARSHOOTER]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Thanks for your time on this
Scot

 

[Falar]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dust_Remover</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had talked to another member on here through PM about mag length 208's, and I deleted it some time ago. I do remember that the powder charges were much lower than most of us are using just due to the significantly reduced case capacity. I believe he was in the 44.0-45.0gr RL17 range. I've been wanting to do some experimentation, but i'm spending the summer shooting season using 175SMK's.

Branden </div></div>

One thing I love about my Savage is that loading to 2.98" IS loading to mag length, with .020" to spare for reliability.

 

[JLM]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dust_Remover</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had talked to another member on here through PM about mag length 208's, and I deleted it some time ago. I do remember that the powder charges were much lower than most of us are using just due to the significantly reduced case capacity. I believe he was in the 44.0-45.0gr RL17 range. I've been wanting to do some experimentation, but i'm spending the summer shooting season using 175SMK's.

Branden </div></div>

One thing I love about my Savage is that loading to 2.98" IS loading to mag length, with .020" to spare for reliability. </div></div>

What Savage? My old 10FP "Tactical" won't go that long in the internal mag box.

 

[Falar]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLM</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dust_Remover</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had talked to another member on here through PM about mag length 208's, and I deleted it some time ago. I do remember that the powder charges were much lower than most of us are using just due to the significantly reduced case capacity. I believe he was in the 44.0-45.0gr RL17 range. I've been wanting to do some experimentation, but i'm spending the summer shooting season using 175SMK's.

Branden </div></div>

One thing I love about my Savage is that loading to 2.98" IS loading to mag length, with .020" to spare for reliability. </div></div>

What Savage? My old 10FP "Tactical" won't go that long in the internal mag box.

</div></div>

It is the newer kind of 10FCP that comes with the DBM.

 

[hopps]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone loaded any 208 to the standard OAL (2.750)?I would like to try them in My FNAR 1/12 twist 20" hbar It shoots MOA or better with 175 SMK . I am loading LC once fired so I'm already going to drop the charge do to thick brass.Sounds like 3.00 OAL is what is working with RL 17 may have to try another powder so I don't run out of room. Any Ideas?
Scot </div></div>

2.75? I thought the FNAR could do 2.810? anyways, I run 2.83 @ 46 grains of RL17 and it does fine in my AR10. 48 grains leaves ejector marks on lapua brass...

 

[Falar]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hopps</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone loaded any 208 to the standard OAL (2.750)?I would like to try them in My FNAR 1/12 twist 20" hbar It shoots MOA or better with 175 SMK . I am loading LC once fired so I'm already going to drop the charge do to thick brass.Sounds like 3.00 OAL is what is working with RL 17 may have to try another powder so I don't run out of room. Any Ideas?
Scot </div></div>

2.75? I thought the FNAR could do 2.810? anyways, I run 2.83 @ 46 grains of RL17 and it does fine in my AR10. 48 grains leaves ejector marks on lapua brass... </div></div>

Since SAAMI specs out 2.800" for .308 Win I'm sure you are right. There shouldn't be a single magazine in existence for .308 that is shorter than 2.820".

 

[mg386]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I finally got my 208s and shot a few today.

gun is a stock remmy700 26"BBL

remington brass 2x fired neck sized only
BR2 primers
RL17
208 AMAX
COAL 3.030 .020 off lands
CED crony

1x each looking for speed and pressure

46gr-2539
47gr-2565
48gr-2637
49gr-2670
49.5gr-2723

I had loads up to 51, but didn't go any further than 49.5
49gr and higher showed very light ejector marks and only 49.5 showed a slightly flattened primer.

i was also amazed at the speeds and thought I must be way overpressure to be getting such high speeds even though i didn't see anything more than mild pressure signs.

the first 3 shots of 46, 47, 48, all hit at almost the same spot with the last 2 shots of 49, 49.5 going an inch high.

So it looks like there is an accuracy node for me at around 47-48, so i think I'll back down to around 48 grains for a speed of around a little over 2600.

im very pleased to get these 208s to this speed.

at this speed my wind is 3 MOA better than my 168AMAX at 1k yards, and still retain over 1000ft/lb at 1k yards

more testing to come...

MG.

 

[Shaun Miller]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I tried Rl-17 with 208's in both of my 308 bolt guns and 48gr. was the max with Black hills brass, it shot lights out in both guns!

 

[FNARSHOOTER]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

You are right the SAMMI O.A.L. for the 308 is 2.800.But the spec for the 7.62x51 is 2.750(acording to wikiapedia) And the FNAR is chambered for 7.62x51 according to FNH.(hell I thought I screwed up till I double checked) I guess its time to start measuring stuff.Instead of being lazy I need to start doing some sifering.I expect being as it's a semi it may not feed with max mag .lenght(longer than spec. but it just may). The difference in the two specs may just be a margin that was figured to make autos feed under high rate of fire.I really would like to thank all that are adding to this post. Alot is to be found when more than one works on a issue.
Scot

 

[badbot]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

My 10fpxp blind mag .308 is max 2.880 I started at 2.80 and at 2.830 i get a ring mark on the bullet and at 2.850 I get land marks going to 2.88 gives longer land marks no pushback.
all the above is with the 155 A-max. I am looking for the 208s to try out.

 

[flyboy]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Went out today do run a ladder test on two SPS-T's. I used the 200gr. SMK's as 208's are not carried localy (as far as I know). I started at 42 and worked up to 50.5gr. with only very light ejector swipes on the 50.5 load. these were set at 2.825 so they still feed in a remmy box mag. I didn't get the chance to shoot them across the eyes today because of the weather but will be making loads at the top of the ladder to check velocitys and accuracy next time out. I will say that the recoil is noticably diffent but not harsh or unpleasent in anyway. Its just more of a shove. Also the muzzle blast is on par with some Mag's I've shot but its all a give and take.

As a side note, a very interesting think happend with the zero on the rifle. I had to adjust windage a full 25 MOA DOWN to keep it on paper. My first shots were way over the target and hitting a few feet from the top of the burm. This is also a huge plus for me since with 175mks i only had 47moa left in the scope and not I have 57moa. Yeah, I know I bottomed out the scope looking for a zero. Tickles the shit outta me.

 

[thinker_308]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Has anyone shot a whole sixty round match with this 208/RL17 load? Trying to anticipate how the weapon/load will function after more than 25 shot load development test...

Really edified by this thread, thanks guys.

*I am trying to figure out if moly is necessary for competition-esque longevity...

 

[Short-bus]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Are you asking how the accuracy holds up? If so, I never saw any deterioration even after 150 rounds between cleanings. The biggest issue is really whether your shoulder can take it if you are shooting a light weapon with no brake.

I've been fiddling around with 175 smk's as I was looking for something that has been found, but another issue that bugs me more than the other has popped up. I'm going back to the 208's.

Branden

 

[ejd049]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Any Varget loads out there? Just developed a good load for 168 AMax and 178 AMax with Varget and wish to use the same powder, to keep it simple!!!!

Thanks

 

[Short-bus]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ejd049</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any Varget loads out there? Just developed a good load for 168 AMax and 178 AMax with Varget and wish to use the same powder, to keep it simple!!!!

Thanks </div></div>

I was reading in some other topics around on this site, and inquired the same to others, and there seems to be a general consensus that the velocity that I was looking to achieve (2500fps) wasn't going to happen with the 208's and Varget. I've considered trying it out myself, however funds and time are a little short at the Dust_Remover house. Funds will be freed up over the next several paychecks as the overtime starts coming in, but time will still be short. I've been putting my money into 175smk's and varget lately, and I miss the performance of the 208's at long range (600+).

I still may get around to trying a few things just to see what kind of velocities are doable with varget and 208's. I've never really been one to back down from a challenge like this. There used to be a lot of folks out there that said that 2600fps from a 20" barreled .308 with 200+ grain bullets was impossible. I've done it, it's hot, but i've done it.

Branden

 

[thinker_308]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I am always concerned with accuracy holding up, I mean, if that goes than what is the point? But more specifically, my initial query was meant more toward things like: accumulated heat in the barrel over the course of sixty+ shots, heat of the gun affecting the consistency of chambered, unfired rounds, and yes, I suppose recoil...it is indeed becoming brisk, especially if you shoot factory rounds as fouling shots and then switch over to this beast load; the juxtaposition is intense!

 

[thinker_308]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dust_Remover</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I never saw any deterioration even after 150 rounds between cleanings. </div></div>

How much time elapsed while you shot one hundred and fifty rounds?

 

[Short-bus]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I haven't done 150 rounds in one session, the most I did in one session was 74. I have put 20 down without any significant cooling time between shots, but I was shooting 1000 yards in wind that was driving me mad. I don't believe that the accuracy was falling apart though, vertical dispersion remained pretty much the same for all shots, the horizontal though, was a different story due to the wind.

The barrel does get hot, but i've never gotten it so hot that I couldn't touch it for more than a second or 2 before severe discomfort set in.

I was referring to more of fouling effecting accuracy, rather than heat. However, once the barrel got hot, I didn't chamber the round until I was ready to fire within' a few seconds of closing the bolt.

Branden

 

[Good]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

So, what does everyone think will work best in a 30-06 with these 208s or the 210 Bergers? 17 or 15? I will be working up a new load soon and need to purchase powder now. Which do I want?

I had a 1/3moa load worked up with Berger 210s and H4350, but that's as good as it got. Rifle is a stock barreled 700 Remington with trigger job and glass bedding.

 

[Onemoretime]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Tim, the search is your friend there are many theads about 208's and 30-06.

If you just scrolled to the bottom of the page you would have found this.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1437624#Post1437624

Try this one this one if you get stuck.


Oh, and welcome to the 'hide

 

[Good]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

Thank you sir, I will say I registered in January but had an elk hunt last October and searched prior to that and was when I developed my loads. Unfortunately, all this was before Shane did the 30-06 testing in that first thread. I should've searched again. Thanks again for the links.

 

[Short-bus]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I just went out to Bass Pro today and picked up a box of 208's. I'm going back to them, 175's just don't have the long range punch, and that punch, and ability to buck the wind has spoiled me into loving them too much. The reason i tried the 175's is no longer as important as I thought it would be. Going back to 208's and RL17 powder.

I'm seriously considering trying some Varget loads just to see what velocities I will get. I have some Varget left, and i'd really hate to see it go to waste.

Branden

Edit: Anyone with quickload, can you run some numbers to tell me what powder charges should be at the OBT for a 20" barrel? I'm using Lapua brass.

 

[Belisarius]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

I just went out to Bass Pro today and picked up a box of 208's.
What was the price there?

 

[Short-bus]

Re: 308 Win, 208 AMax, RL17

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belisarius</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dust_Remover</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just went out to Bass Pro today and picked up a box of 208's. </div></div>
What was the price there? </div></div>

They're $35.99/box there. Nice thing is that they always have it in stock.

Branden