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40 Dead at New Zealand Mosques
- Thread starter Veer_G
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Me being sad about the dead muslims.
And hold hands and sing "Why can't we be friends?"
Learn me,...based on your response do you want regulation of Truck's, Van's, an Cars as well, or just firearms? Which device kills more people? What about the medical "profession" (if you can call it that) they kill more every month that firearms do in a year. So if it's about saving lives lets start with the top of the list an move down. Or have you just bought into the People Control thing across the board?
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I have a link to the vid of this shooting. Was it already posted somewhere on this thread? Only watched a few mins, and it’s bad as you could imagine. I’ll post if Tucker says it’s ok.
@Tucker301
@Tucker301
We have to bring our own crystals too.
And I heard they won't let us carry firearms there either.
As I predicted earlier.
Bodies aren't even cold yet and already the local politicians are busy saying let's make citizens give up their guns:
www.dailymail.co.uk
Bodies aren't even cold yet and already the local politicians are busy saying let's make citizens give up their guns:
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern vows tough action on weapons
Brenton Tarrant, 28, shot 49 Muslims and injured dozens after he opened fire on a mosque in Christchurch, using two semi-automatic weapons, two shotguns and a lever action firearm.
Don' t post the video here
we don;t need to see it and with all the backlash of internet companies letting it be viewed, we don't need the attention
we don;t need to see it and with all the backlash of internet companies letting it be viewed, we don't need the attention
So an Aussie wants to change Americas 2A laws to start a civil war here and shoots up a joint in NZ to do it? Doesnt pass the sniff test at all on multiple levels. Someone was pulling that guys strings.
Sonichan you're talkin gun control . Kristinjensen you're an angry Chechen . Go home . You do your thirdworld shithole stuff and we'll handle the first world stuff . Fair enough ?
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No oath?
Then as they say in Germany
Mox nix.
Or here matters not.
Let's just break it down to Texas drawl go to hell euro trash.
Then as they say in Germany
Mox nix.
Or here matters not.
Let's just break it down to Texas drawl go to hell euro trash.
As an American I am granted certain inalienable rights provided by the constitution and its ammendments. And have sworn to protect it with my last breath.
I did not however see the part about "others" being granted the same rights.
Don't need advice from "others" to decide how America deals with stupid things.
I did not however see the part about "others" being granted the same rights.
Don't need advice from "others" to decide how America deals with stupid things.
Shooter was likely fuckin with people.....
What is Shitposting?
Shitposting is the act of throwing out huge amounts of content, most of it ironic, low-quality trolling, for the purpose of provoking an emotional reaction in less Internet-savvy viewers. The ultimate goal is to derail productive discussion and distract readers. “The Great Replacement” is a clear and brutally obvious example of this technique.
In his manifesto, Brenton credits far-right personality Candace Owens with beginning his radicalization. He states that, “Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes.”
This detail was picked up instantly by many people online. Owens herself issued a response that seemed almost calculated to generate rage from those on the left:
But in the context of the shooter’s online presence, and the rest of his manifesto, this was almost certainly misdirection. Here is what the author wrote immediately below the section crediting Owens for his radicalization. In it, he jokes that “Spyro the Dragon 3”, a video game, taught him “ethno-nationalism”.
It is possible, even likely that the author was a fan of Owens’s videos: she certainly espouses anti-immigrant rhetoric. But in context seems likely that his references to Owens were calculated to spark division, and perhaps even violence, between the left and the right. At multiple points in the manifesto the author expresses the hope that his massacre will spark further attempts at gun control in the United States, which he believes will lead to gun confiscation and a civil war. He believes this civil war would be the best opportunity destroy the American “melting pot”. This idea is repeated often enough that it seems to be something the author legitimately believes in.
Given the tone surrounding the Candace Owens passage, it seems clear that it was “bait”, thrown out to attract attention on social media and sow further political division. The entire manifesto is dotted, liberally, with references to memes and Internet in-jokes that only the extremely online would get. For example, take this passage from his Q&A:
He goes on to repeat, at length, the Navy SEAL Copypasta, a humorous meme that originated on 4chan circa 2010. The whole manifesto is dotted with little bits like that. They are meant to distract attention from his more honest points, and to draw the attention of his real intended audience.
** For those that don’t know, this is in part an effort to discredit 8chan and the QAnon story that is being told there. Portraying himself as a violent racist hater.
What is Shitposting?
Shitposting is the act of throwing out huge amounts of content, most of it ironic, low-quality trolling, for the purpose of provoking an emotional reaction in less Internet-savvy viewers. The ultimate goal is to derail productive discussion and distract readers. “The Great Replacement” is a clear and brutally obvious example of this technique.
In his manifesto, Brenton credits far-right personality Candace Owens with beginning his radicalization. He states that, “Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes.”
This detail was picked up instantly by many people online. Owens herself issued a response that seemed almost calculated to generate rage from those on the left:
But in the context of the shooter’s online presence, and the rest of his manifesto, this was almost certainly misdirection. Here is what the author wrote immediately below the section crediting Owens for his radicalization. In it, he jokes that “Spyro the Dragon 3”, a video game, taught him “ethno-nationalism”.
It is possible, even likely that the author was a fan of Owens’s videos: she certainly espouses anti-immigrant rhetoric. But in context seems likely that his references to Owens were calculated to spark division, and perhaps even violence, between the left and the right. At multiple points in the manifesto the author expresses the hope that his massacre will spark further attempts at gun control in the United States, which he believes will lead to gun confiscation and a civil war. He believes this civil war would be the best opportunity destroy the American “melting pot”. This idea is repeated often enough that it seems to be something the author legitimately believes in.
Given the tone surrounding the Candace Owens passage, it seems clear that it was “bait”, thrown out to attract attention on social media and sow further political division. The entire manifesto is dotted, liberally, with references to memes and Internet in-jokes that only the extremely online would get. For example, take this passage from his Q&A:
He goes on to repeat, at length, the Navy SEAL Copypasta, a humorous meme that originated on 4chan circa 2010. The whole manifesto is dotted with little bits like that. They are meant to distract attention from his more honest points, and to draw the attention of his real intended audience.
** For those that don’t know, this is in part an effort to discredit 8chan and the QAnon story that is being told there. Portraying himself as a violent racist hater.
Thats actually exactly what he wants to happen. His plan was to have the Left push for strong gun control, in order to force the rights hand, thus sparking a civil war in the US, and ultimately leading to the expulsion of non whites from traditionally white countries.
When Christians are slaughtered it’s a non-issue. Not newsworthy.
www.bpnews.net
When Muslims are targeted its on the 24hr news cycle. MSM pushing their narrative.
This month alone.
www.thereligionofpeace.com
40 Christians killed in attacks in Nigeria | Baptist Press
At least 32 people were killed in a Muslim Fulani herder attack on a Christian area of north-central Nigeria on Tuesday (Feb. 26), sources said.
www.bpnews.net
When Muslims are targeted its on the 24hr news cycle. MSM pushing their narrative.
This month alone.
List of Islamic Terror Attacks
List of Islamic terror attacks from TheReligionofPeace.com
www.thereligionofpeace.com
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My God given rights are not up for debate or bargain . If you wish to take it up with God I will provide the meeting should you keep violating my rights .
Are you talking about the shooter? My post was in reference to comments from and Australian politician.
It’s a muffler. It isn’t a firearm. The bad guy didn’t use one.
Only a progressive with an ulterior motive would use a straw man argument to try to fix a problem that never existed.
How would more strict muffler control in NZ stop this guy?
Liberal Logic hurts my head.
Shooter was likely fuckin with people.....
What is Shitposting?
Shitposting is the act of throwing out huge amounts of content, most of it ironic, low-quality trolling, for the purpose of provoking an emotional reaction in less Internet-savvy viewers. The ultimate goal is to derail productive discussion and distract readers. “The Great Replacement” is a clear and brutally obvious example of this technique.
In his manifesto, Brenton credits far-right personality Candace Owens with beginning his radicalization. He states that, “Each time she spoke I was stunned by her insights and her own views helped push me further and further into the belief of violence over meekness. Though I will have to disavow some of her beliefs, the extreme actions she calls for are too much, even for my tastes.”
This detail was picked up instantly by many people online. Owens herself issued a response that seemed almost calculated to generate rage from those on the left:
But in the context of the shooter’s online presence, and the rest of his manifesto, this was almost certainly misdirection. Here is what the author wrote immediately below the section crediting Owens for his radicalization. In it, he jokes that “Spyro the Dragon 3”, a video game, taught him “ethno-nationalism”.
It is possible, even likely that the author was a fan of Owens’s videos: she certainly espouses anti-immigrant rhetoric. But in context seems likely that his references to Owens were calculated to spark division, and perhaps even violence, between the left and the right. At multiple points in the manifesto the author expresses the hope that his massacre will spark further attempts at gun control in the United States, which he believes will lead to gun confiscation and a civil war. He believes this civil war would be the best opportunity destroy the American “melting pot”. This idea is repeated often enough that it seems to be something the author legitimately believes in.
Given the tone surrounding the Candace Owens passage, it seems clear that it was “bait”, thrown out to attract attention on social media and sow further political division. The entire manifesto is dotted, liberally, with references to memes and Internet in-jokes that only the extremely online would get. For example, take this passage from his Q&A:
He goes on to repeat, at length, the Navy SEAL Copypasta, a humorous meme that originated on 4chan circa 2010. The whole manifesto is dotted with little bits like that. They are meant to distract attention from his more honest points, and to draw the attention of his real intended audience.
** For those that don’t know, this is in part an effort to discredit 8chan and the QAnon story that is being told there. Portraying himself as a violent racist hater.
Gavrilo Princip was a nothing anarchist until he stirred up some shit.
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That is so important and relevant I felt a like wasn’t enough.When Christians are slaughtered it’s a non-issue. Not newsworthy.
40 Christians killed in attacks in Nigeria | Baptist Press
At least 32 people were killed in a Muslim Fulani herder attack on a Christian area of north-central Nigeria on Tuesday (Feb. 26), sources said.
When Muslims are targeted its on the 24hr news cycle. MSM pushing their narrative.
This month alone.
List of Islamic Terror Attacks
List of Islamic terror attacks from TheReligionofPeace.com
More snowflakes , will winter never end?
America does not need advice from non players .
America does not need advice from non players .
I've thought about the hurtful things I've said here and I should probably change my ways. That said, I still can't locate a fuck to give.
When in doubt, yell get-er-done (that's the antidote to aloha-goatfuck).
When in doubt, yell get-er-done (that's the antidote to aloha-goatfuck).
Some libtard told me if I watched the video it would “change my mind” on my viewpoint of firearms....so I watched it and you can bet it was more brutal than you’ve probably imagined up to this point. However, didn’t change my viewpoint on firearms. Moral of the story, I took one for the team to piss off a liberal. I don’t recommend any of you seek out the video. I’ve seen plenty of shit in my day. This though was tough to watch.
Along with what is omitted note how much about this event is included.
Within hours we know shooters name, family history, motivation.
Unlike other events when the news guy stumbles out "We still do not know who this person is" for hours
or witnesses will be giving details about things said by the killers about their actions and its "We still dont know what their motivations were"
Any news person yesterday say "We dont want to rush to assumptions so as not to stigmatize all gun owners"?
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Huhhhhh......
wsvn.com
and skippy podesta was in town just a few days prior as well...
MSD students who traveled to New Zealand for youth summit react to attacks
PARKLAND, FLA. (WSVN) - Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School survivors who traveled to New Zealand to attend a youth summit last year said the mass...
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and skippy podesta was in town just a few days prior as well...
I saw the video. Was it brutal? Certainly. Did it change my mind about guns? YES. Now I feel that all law abiding people should and must be allowed to own and carry semiautomatic defensive handguns with the highest possible magazine capacities, as well as rifles and carbines of the same tactical class.
Because in order to take down a maniac wielding such firepower, a good guy with a gun should be able to respond with brute force of his own.
There is my answer to that libtard that showed you the video. If you run into him again, please tell him that. Sure it "changed my mind on guns".........just not in the way that he and his kind hoped.
Increase your defensive capabilities folks. New era. New threats. And that calls for more potent weaponry on our side if we want us and our loved ones to be safe.
If only one of them had worn their vest to the mosque that day, they could have eliminated the threat as soon as it began.
The Site would likely make CNN. I can see it now. Headline: "Subversive website condones killing innocent Muslims". Shooters get enough bad press already.
Those muslims where likely not innocent. Do you think they are in a Christian white nation because they like the culture and people and want nothing more than to assimilate and be part of what makes New Zealand (or insert any other non-muslim country) great? Yeah right.
They migrate to these countries for “jihad” by migration (“hizra”). Thats why they are coming and having 10 kids each and leach off the host nations government like parasites. Its the plan and laid out in their koran. Its a takeover and the muslims in New Zealand knew what they where doing and it looks like someone had enough.
There are places in this country that are majority muslim. How is that if they assimilate into a country as large as the USA. They dont. They balkanize.
Im not condoning what the shooter did. Im not going to condemn him either.
The leaders of these nations including ours is to blame. More attacks like these are coming from both sides as these people are being imported in droves. We better wake up before its too damn late.
But they are. Do we really need any more bad press. Don't make it easy for them.
Fuk them they are bad press, dont be cowed, stick with facts as your protection not fear.
Dont give them that undeserved power over you.
Dont leave the battle field of ideas to them, thats what got us where we are.
Dont give them that undeserved power over you.
Dont leave the battle field of ideas to them, thats what got us where we are.
Over in this thread from one of the sites in NZ run by a dedicated hunter and hunting ballistics researcher:
Here is his post for those of you who don't get a chance to follow the link:
(This is a quoted post directly copied from the above link, it is Not anything written my me).
Quoted:
"Nathan Foster
Re: Mass Shooting
Yes this is terrible in every way. Words cannot help the victims. Nothing can remove the pain which simply has to be felt. Emotions must flow. Pain and love are given in equal measures and in the same moment building to uncontrollable levels. Our only outlet is to cry.
I have not seen the live stream of this, our immediate concern is that when Riley goes to school she may see it from classmates. The school has no checks or balances over social media. We have so far kept Riley away from social media but other parents do not yet seem to fully understand the ramifications of allowing kids to access the internet freely.
During 2017 / 2018 Steph and I worked on a project in which we viewed other live stream material. The weapons in these instances were explosives. The victims were the same, innocent people trapped in buildings / cities. During our briefings we were shown how the attackers were not always religious zealots but instead, disenfranchised youths. We were not allowed to use the word terrorist in our briefings as this created false perceptions (quite true). Current terminology includes such terms as non-state actors or unlawful combatants. But our project leader used a more descriptive term - rock stars of carnage. Sadly, this latter description is the most accurate.
Regardless of which proposed tactic was projected (government controls, counter strategies), the outcome was made worse. Do nothing it gets worse via basic problems of overpopulation versus lack. Add controls, it gets worse at a faster rate. With totalitarian control, large groups of ordinary people would be forced to take state / anti state stances. Ultimately, the project resulted in a system of damage control. All current methods of dealing with human disharmony involve force against force to one extent or another.
Steph and I are still engaged in this work, though it is not yet recognized in NZ as up until a few hours ago, there were no domestic threats.
It is important that we have physical counter measures (such as those developed in our projects. But as I look back on what we have learned, it is obvious that counter measures do not get to the root of problems. My expertise in ballistics is a useful, but does not provide preventative measures.
Understand, there is no law that can prevent more of this, Already, somebody will be plotting another attack in another country, hoping to beat the numbers.
In my experience, fear cannot be extinguished with more fear. The threat of punishment for a crime does does not always prevent crime as we have just seen. If we are to have any hope of reversing these trends, we need to stop spreading messages of fear (leading to hate) via our media and social media. It is imperative that we stop telling our children that our race is bad, unnatural, flawed, damaging the environment, comments about the world being **ed... whatever. If we keep feeding this fear into our children, more will grow to be the villains of society.
It is time for us to start being kind to ourselves. It is time to shut out these messages of fear, look within and nurture love. And we also need to learn how to properly nurture our children, not leave them to be raised by the media or social media and school studies thereof. Our children need to know that they are loved and how to love themselves. They need to learn the difference between self love and self centered behavior which comes from a fear of lack.
We are constantly told to be more compassionate and more loving towards others but we have no understanding of how to do this because we do not know how to love to ourselves. If you do not own something - you cannot give it away. If you do not have love for yourself, you have no love to share with others.
These rock stars of carnage are completely reliant on you looking at them, creating the thing that they crave - an audience.
I urge you to look within yourself this very moment. Do not be afraid, if you look within and feel that you (our race) is bad, look deeper. At your core, you will find love. It was there when you were born and will be all that remains when you take your last breath.
Start this very moment.
For our own survival, we must recognize that we are love, we are good, we are magnificent. No matter what actions others might take in their reaction to fear, we must learn to see that love is at our core. If you can learn to recognize this within yourself, this is what you will show to the world - love. "
End of quoted post.
Discussion Forums
www.ballisticstudies.com
Here is his post for those of you who don't get a chance to follow the link:
(This is a quoted post directly copied from the above link, it is Not anything written my me).
Quoted:
"Nathan Foster
Re: Mass Shooting
Yes this is terrible in every way. Words cannot help the victims. Nothing can remove the pain which simply has to be felt. Emotions must flow. Pain and love are given in equal measures and in the same moment building to uncontrollable levels. Our only outlet is to cry.
I have not seen the live stream of this, our immediate concern is that when Riley goes to school she may see it from classmates. The school has no checks or balances over social media. We have so far kept Riley away from social media but other parents do not yet seem to fully understand the ramifications of allowing kids to access the internet freely.
During 2017 / 2018 Steph and I worked on a project in which we viewed other live stream material. The weapons in these instances were explosives. The victims were the same, innocent people trapped in buildings / cities. During our briefings we were shown how the attackers were not always religious zealots but instead, disenfranchised youths. We were not allowed to use the word terrorist in our briefings as this created false perceptions (quite true). Current terminology includes such terms as non-state actors or unlawful combatants. But our project leader used a more descriptive term - rock stars of carnage. Sadly, this latter description is the most accurate.
Regardless of which proposed tactic was projected (government controls, counter strategies), the outcome was made worse. Do nothing it gets worse via basic problems of overpopulation versus lack. Add controls, it gets worse at a faster rate. With totalitarian control, large groups of ordinary people would be forced to take state / anti state stances. Ultimately, the project resulted in a system of damage control. All current methods of dealing with human disharmony involve force against force to one extent or another.
Steph and I are still engaged in this work, though it is not yet recognized in NZ as up until a few hours ago, there were no domestic threats.
It is important that we have physical counter measures (such as those developed in our projects. But as I look back on what we have learned, it is obvious that counter measures do not get to the root of problems. My expertise in ballistics is a useful, but does not provide preventative measures.
Understand, there is no law that can prevent more of this, Already, somebody will be plotting another attack in another country, hoping to beat the numbers.
In my experience, fear cannot be extinguished with more fear. The threat of punishment for a crime does does not always prevent crime as we have just seen. If we are to have any hope of reversing these trends, we need to stop spreading messages of fear (leading to hate) via our media and social media. It is imperative that we stop telling our children that our race is bad, unnatural, flawed, damaging the environment, comments about the world being **ed... whatever. If we keep feeding this fear into our children, more will grow to be the villains of society.
It is time for us to start being kind to ourselves. It is time to shut out these messages of fear, look within and nurture love. And we also need to learn how to properly nurture our children, not leave them to be raised by the media or social media and school studies thereof. Our children need to know that they are loved and how to love themselves. They need to learn the difference between self love and self centered behavior which comes from a fear of lack.
We are constantly told to be more compassionate and more loving towards others but we have no understanding of how to do this because we do not know how to love to ourselves. If you do not own something - you cannot give it away. If you do not have love for yourself, you have no love to share with others.
These rock stars of carnage are completely reliant on you looking at them, creating the thing that they crave - an audience.
I urge you to look within yourself this very moment. Do not be afraid, if you look within and feel that you (our race) is bad, look deeper. At your core, you will find love. It was there when you were born and will be all that remains when you take your last breath.
Start this very moment.
For our own survival, we must recognize that we are love, we are good, we are magnificent. No matter what actions others might take in their reaction to fear, we must learn to see that love is at our core. If you can learn to recognize this within yourself, this is what you will show to the world - love. "
End of quoted post.
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